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Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
« on: January 09, 2017, 04:36:26 PM »
Hi Everyone,

Since October I've been running my Juwel Trigon 190 without any major issues other than a small outbreak of whitespot which appears to be resolved. But I'm starting to notice my water isn't as clear as I'd like there seems to be more small particles floating around in the tank, there isn't a great deal but I was looking to see if anybody had any ideas on how to improve my overall filtration?

I'm running the Bioflow filter with the sponges & pads it came with, haven't bothered with the optional phorax, carbax & Cirax, although I have added ceramic filter media from my previous tank when setting everything up.

I will upgrade the pump from the standard 600 to 1000lph as that seems to be a good idea according to the threads on here.

Just looking for ways to improve, sponge/product recommendtions & links etc.
Juwel Trigon 190

2 Honey Gourami
14 Neon Tetra
2 Bolivian Rams
6 Harlequin Rasbora
2 Otocinclus
6 Albino Cory
1 BN Plec

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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #1 on: January 10, 2017, 07:50:22 AM »
    Are you rinsing out or changing the polypad every week during the water change?
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #2 on: January 10, 2017, 08:35:03 AM »
    Have you taken out the black carbon pad? I have the cirax box and also a pouch of seachem purigen in between the two baskets and that made the biggest difference to my water clarity. So top to bottom I have the polypad, nitrax, full course sponge, half a course sponge, purigen, cirax and 2 fine sponges. I only use the nitrax as I have high nitrates in the tap water so you could replace with another course sponge.

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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #3 on: January 10, 2017, 08:45:52 AM »
    Rinsing out the polypad in tank water during every 2nd weekly water change Ian, us that overdoing it?

    I only took the black carbon pad out for the brief period I was treating whitespot. My tap water is nitrate free thankfully. Heard good things about seachem purigen might be worth a go. You got a pic of your tank slackenby?

    Will upgrading the pump allow me to add more stock?
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    2 Bolivian Rams
    6 Harlequin Rasbora
    2 Otocinclus
    6 Albino Cory
    1 BN Plec

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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 10:46:15 AM »
    I rinse the polypad every week as it gets pretty mucky.
    Water is clear though, I just have sponges, no ceramics.......I don't use carbon, nitrax or any other unecessary. Isn't Cirax the ceramic media for the Juwel Biofilter that they introduced a couple of years ago (well it may be more than a couple, but I've had mine 17 years and they didn't make it then..... ;) *grin* )?
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #5 on: January 10, 2017, 11:54:37 AM »
    You could add more stock if you added another filter too, I used a fluval 305 external with mine as well,  the higher powered pump makes the water flow faster it doesn't give you any more media to house the good munchers
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #6 on: January 10, 2017, 04:28:34 PM »
    How often would you think about replacing the polypad? Are there any better replacements for any of the foams or pads?   I see you can buy cheaper ones in bulk elsewhere but not sure on the quality.
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #7 on: January 10, 2017, 06:15:12 PM »
    dont replace any of the foams till they fall apart, 10+ years, yes that long, not like the box tells you!! the polypad might last a year too, just rinse it in removed tank water once a week and reshape, dont throw anything out till it falls apart... the carbon leave out and add medium sponge or ceramic/biohome/alfagrog or similar media to that gap :)
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #8 on: January 10, 2017, 10:30:10 PM »
    Is there a standout choice for filter media or do they all do pretty much the same job?
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #9 on: January 10, 2017, 11:57:19 PM »
    Rinsing out the polypad in tank water during every 2nd weekly water change Ian, us that overdoing it?

    I only took the black carbon pad out for the brief period I was treating whitespot. My tap water is nitrate free thankfully. Heard good things about seachem purigen might be worth a go. You got a pic of your tank slackenby?

    Will upgrading the pump allow me to add more stock?
    Tank pic attached as requested.
    The purigen is really good. I have 2 of the 100ml pouches which I swap every 2-3 months and recharge one while using the other.
    I also use a new poly pad every week which I know is sacrilege to some lol Buy in bulk from charterhouse aquatics
    I've also found it makes a difference how I direct the flow nozzle from the pump. I aim it to the back of the tank and at a slight upward angle.
    This seems to maximize the skimmer effect of the filter inlet.
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #10 on: January 11, 2017, 12:21:14 PM »
    Beautiful setup slackenby  thumbsup
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    6 Harlequin Rasbora
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #11 on: January 11, 2017, 09:38:43 PM »
    Watched a few pondguru videos there he seems to swear by biohome media anybody ever tried that?
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #12 on: January 12, 2017, 09:47:56 AM »
    The longest I've gone before replacing the poly pad is now 17 months, but that's a Juwel one, not a cheap one, as they seem to disintegrate within a couple of months so aren't actually as cost-effective as you may think. ;)
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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #13 on: January 12, 2017, 12:02:02 PM »
    Hi All,
               I've just set up a Rio 125 and I can't understand why you would put a fine poly pad before the course sponge! Just doesn't make sence to me?  I only filled the tank yesterday morning but it's still murky and that's after I added my old Eheim 2213 external. This still had some old media it.

    This morning I took the poly pad out and cleaned, it very colourful like orange juice!!  so my filer top to bottom is course sponge, poly pad, carbon Nirex- Cirex and 2 medium sponges. Hope to add media from my mature external soon...   I did clean my new gravel, but you never get is really clean, that seems to have settled.

    Could I have bacterial bloom or something?

    Here's a couple of pics 24 (or so) hours apart..

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    Re: Juwel Trigon 190 Filtration
    « Reply #14 on: January 12, 2017, 05:47:44 PM »
    i use 50/50 biohome/alfagrog E25 with a wee bag of purigen in all my externals, I couldnt afford to use all biohome!!!
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