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Re: 240 wonderland
« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2016, 10:10:03 am »
Looks amazing

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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #61 on: March 29, 2016, 10:46:15 am »
    Whoa! Will you stop it please! ;) *grin*
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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #62 on: April 23, 2016, 10:32:12 am »
    Beautiful! Do we know about your stock list yet?

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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #63 on: April 23, 2016, 01:04:01 pm »
    That's a very stylish tank!! Looks wonderful thumbsup
    Tank 250 L Amazonian Wild Thing!

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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #64 on: May 03, 2016, 12:22:17 pm »
    Currently 21 silver tipped tetra, 1x oto, 4x amano shrimp and about 20 RCS.

    Tanks doing fine with no algae and no issues, but have a query....

    It is low tech - low light, no CO2 and no ferts.  There is plant substrate in.  All plants are low demand and still establishing themselves, but should I be adding liquid ferts too, or will that upset what is a stable tank at the moment.
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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #65 on: May 03, 2016, 07:02:47 pm »
    I'm no expert, but I'm sure I recall asking the same question (before I ended up with co2) and the answers I got where yes, the plants will still benefit massively from liquid ferts as well as the planting substrate. If you use ei frets like this... http://www.aquariumplantfood.co.uk/fertilisers/dry-chemicals/starter-kits/ei-starter-kit.html I believe they recommend using 1/3 dose with no co2 at all or 1/2 dose with "liquid carbon" which is another thing I'd consider...

    I'm sure more experienced will add to this, but I'm fairly confident this is acurate :)

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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #66 on: May 03, 2016, 07:09:52 pm »
    I use EI Ferts and liquid carbon. Jax3000 is correct, I reduce the amount of EI ferts that I add to the tank by 50%.
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    Tank 250 L Amazonian Wild Thing!

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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #67 on: May 04, 2016, 07:43:03 am »
    I don't use ferts or substrate with my low-tech tanks........
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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #68 on: May 04, 2016, 10:02:20 am »
    I don't use ferts or substrate with my low-tech tanks........

    Yes, my point! was supposed to be proper low tech but cant help tinkering. haha!
    Liquid CO2 would be expensive over time but I do EI dose in my high tech tank, so could do that.  Just don't want to upset the balance and get an algae issue, but would like to help the plants a bit.
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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #69 on: May 04, 2016, 02:18:17 pm »
    never bothered on my low tech tanks. Never bothered with the planted oscar tank. Plants will benefit from liquid co2 more on its own.

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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #70 on: May 04, 2016, 04:14:29 pm »
    Ah, so liquid CO2 would be more worthwhile and just rely on the plant substrate for ferts?
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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #71 on: May 05, 2016, 07:45:13 pm »
    Neutro Co2 is reasonably priced and I believe they're all much of a muchness...

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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #72 on: May 06, 2016, 03:43:27 pm »
    Ah, so liquid CO2 would be more worthwhile and just rely on the plant substrate for ferts?

    Yup.

    Even when i was using pressurized co2 i didn't dose any ferts :)

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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #73 on: May 07, 2016, 01:31:14 pm »
    How's the tank looking now? I've been quietly following this with great interest (I'm setting up my first tank in a few months and have been gathering bits for it for the past few) and would love to see how yours is progressing.


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    Re: 240 wonderland
    « Reply #74 on: May 08, 2016, 10:38:14 pm »
    Not much happening with these slow growing plants!
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    50ltr - Crystal Red Shrimp

    186ltr - SAE, Whiptail, Otos, Kuhli Loach, RCS, Amanos

    240ltr - Silver tipped tetra, Cardinal tetra, Otos, Amanos