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Re: Belated logging trip
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2017, 02:21:45 pm »
Well, as of yesterday, there were no eggs left and the site abandoned and the Kribs are just swimming around as they were before so that would lead me to the only conclusion: the eggs had been eaten by someone in the tank. Oh well, onwards and upwards, that was their first time I think so we'll have to hold out for the next time :)

In other news: With a big thank you to Stevie, I've been able to upgrade the filtration in this tank from an APS 700lph internal to a Fluval U4!!!  *grin* The flow is impressive, even on the lowest setting! The flow is now reaching the end of the tank, easily and on low setting! I cut up the foam from my APS filter and inserted it into the Fluval which should mean I'll be alright but I will monitor the tank with regular testing and water changes if needed, Stevie also kindly kitted the Fluval out with some new foams (coarse, medium & fine - I replaced some of the coarse foam for the foam out of the APS filter). The fish seem livelier, which is good to see (they're not being blown around the tank though! haha just thought I'd clarify that) :)

Really great news buddy, glad it's working for you  *applause*
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    Offline Pilgrim89

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #46 on: April 05, 2017, 09:51:13 pm »
    Kribs seem to be at it again! They're vibrating occasionally and I Googled what this means and the first link described this as breeding behaviour. The female vibrated first, outside Buddha ornament this time, and that means both that she thinks Buddha is where she wants to spawn and she's showing off to the male and the male vibrated but near the plant pot (a good 10-12" away from the Buddha ornament opening where the female shimmied) and the male also vibrated near where they had their eggs last time so who knows what's going on! haha

    Will keep you all posted :)

    Meanwhile, here's some of the latest images of the fish ... Because  *worthless*
    « Last Edit: April 05, 2017, 09:53:45 pm by Pilgrim89 »
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #47 on: April 06, 2017, 09:13:21 am »
    I do like pentazonas, I never see them when I have space for them..... *rolleyes*
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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #48 on: April 06, 2017, 09:45:11 am »
    They are really fun to watch swimming about investigating everything and shoaling. I definitely recommend them
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #49 on: April 10, 2017, 09:51:04 pm »
    Hi all! :)

    Hope everyone is ok!

    Just popped on to add a few images and ask a question.

    Does anyone know why some Pentazona Barbs have red fins yet some don't? (I'll add some images)
    I've looked online a little and it doesn't appear to be related to them being male or female, the only thing that seems to differentiate between the sexes is males will display their markings stronger when they're displaying but that's as far as I've got so far. Does anyone have a clue?  *grin*

    P.S.: Sorry about the camera flash on the bottom image, it was the only decent pair I could get with red fins and clear fins
    « Last Edit: April 10, 2017, 09:53:08 pm by Pilgrim89 »
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #50 on: April 11, 2017, 08:17:23 am »
    It may be to do with where the original stock came from I think, similar to clown loaches, where the fins are different colours in different areas (usually due to them being desmopuntius hexazona, rather than d.pentazona). Females of the six-banded have clear fins.......
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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #51 on: April 11, 2017, 01:28:10 pm »
    I hope they are Pentazona's. When I asked the fish guy from the LFS I got them from whether they were Hexas or Pentas he was sure of himself that they were true Pentazonas. After a look online, Pentazonas can apparently be set apart from Hexazonas by looking at the dorsal fin, in Pentazonas the base of the dorsal fin is black whereas in Hexazonas it isn't ... And looking at our Barbs, they do have a black marking at the base of the dorsal fin, it is one of the stripes that slightly carries on onto the dorsal fin (I'll attach some photos and highlight it).

    I am around 80-90% sure that we have Pentazonas but obviously that 10-20% is the certainty haha
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #52 on: April 11, 2017, 06:27:14 pm »
    Just a quick question:

    Why would my Albino Rainbow Shark all of a sudden like hovering upside down in his/her log tunnel? Jerry, yeah that's the name, is still responsive and rights him/herself when I put a plastic stick in there and try and move something near him/her but sooner than later Jerry'll be back upside down just chillin' ... There's no obvious signs of distress or illness but the options are still wide open. I'm hoping that it's just my weirdness rubbing off but I doubt it  roflmao
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #53 on: April 11, 2017, 07:31:28 pm »
    Third post for today! haha

    The Kribs have laid eggs again!  *grin* in the same spot too ... I'll add some images :)
    « Last Edit: April 11, 2017, 07:34:25 pm by Pilgrim89 »
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #54 on: April 11, 2017, 10:35:18 pm »
    Ok, fourth post for today! haha

    I think that these eggs might be in with more of a chance as I am somewhat reliably informed by my partner and the housemate that the eggs are slightly darker cream colour than the first batch and they both feel more confident about these eggs. I feel confident about them because both the male and the female are guarding the eggs closely and the first lot had just the female guarding them with the male nearly all the time spending all of his time at the other end of the tank so that looks like it could be promising :) might just be chance though that the male is helping out this time round but I like to think that it is because the eggs are properly fertilised :)

    What are your thoughts? anyone ;)
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #55 on: April 11, 2017, 10:45:03 pm »
    No idea (barbs), no idea (the shark) it does sound unusual and no idea about the kribs lol
    Congrats on another batch of eggs hope they go well this time, and also hope the shark is ok


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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #56 on: April 12, 2017, 08:07:18 am »
    Can you get pics of Jerry?
    Watch the kribs if they're coming to grips with parenthood...... ;)
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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #57 on: April 12, 2017, 09:37:12 am »
    I will most certainly try and get pics of Jerry :)

    I'm hoping, again, that the 4ft tank will be big enough for the Kribs and the rest of the fish. The female seems a little withdrawn at times and it's the male doing most of the guarding this time, it's the male seeing off the Barbs whereas the female is letting them come within centimetres of the eggs before reacting :(
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.

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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #58 on: April 12, 2017, 10:43:17 am »
    My fire eels like to hang upside down sometimes in their tubes. Makes me check to see if they're still alive, but they always are. Unless you see other symptoms, I think they just like to do it :)
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    Re: Belated logging trip
    « Reply #59 on: April 13, 2017, 08:44:48 am »
    Can you get pics of Jerry?

    The camera battery is having charging issues so I haven't been able to take any pictures of Jerry but he's swimming around a bit and is currently sat in his log tunnel the right way up so I think there must've been some interesting thing on the roof of the log tunnel for a couple of days!  roflmao will keep an eye on it ;) :)
    4ft, 140L:
    14 x Pentazona Barbs
    10 x Golden Barbs
    2 x Kribensis (m&f)
    1 x Albino Rainbow Shark
    3 x Bristlenose Plecs

    3ft, 60-80L:
    1 x Musk Turtle

    2ft, 54L:
    8 x Glowlight Tetra
    3 x Otocinclus

    3ft, 100L:
    3 x Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid (Geophagus steindachneri)
    1 x Bandit Cichlid (Guianacara stergiosi)
    10 x Bristlenose Plec Juveniles (approx 1"+)
    4 x Lemon Bristlenose Plec - 2 breeding pairs
    2 x Tiger Plec (L002) breeding pair

    50L grow-out tank:
    50+? x Bristlenose Plec fry and Lemon Plec Dad from 3ft, 100L tank.