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Natural Decor and Tannins
« on: May 10, 2017, 12:24:44 pm »
In my ongoing search for more interesting things to add tannins to my tanks, I came across this website:

https://tanninaquatics.com/pages/aquatic-botancial-preparation

It's a US-based firm that sells various South American leaves, seed pods etc that are typical of what might fall into a river in the Amazon basin. I can't comment directly on their products or service, but the page I have linked gives a comprehensive list of potential decor items, together with advice on their preparation for use in a tank. That's pretty helpful!

So, I then started looking to see if I could find a UK-based supplier of similar items. I found this website: (they also have an ebay shop).

https://www.pollywog.co.uk/product-category/natural-decor/

There are four pages of pods, seeds, leaves etc for sale. Although primarily intended for amphibian tanks, many of them are suitable for fish too.

I've ordered a selection of different types of seed pods and will report back here when I receive them.

As part of my tank rationalisation I am intending to re-purpose one of my 90L tanks to house my growing family of Dicrossus filamentosus and my marble hatchets, perhaps with a few juvenile twig cats as well. I'm planning a slow-flowing tannin-rich environment with leaves, branches and hidey-holes, so these pods should be ideal.

9 tropical tanks, 1 marine

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Cichlids: Dicrossus filamentosus; Pelvicachromis subocellatus 'Moanda'; Biotodoma cupido
Catfish: Ancistrus 'Rio Paraguay'; Panaqolus sp. L397; Pseudolithoxus dumus; Farlowella vittata; Corydoras melini, burgessi, oiapoquensis
Loaches: Pangio myersi
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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #1 on: May 10, 2017, 01:20:58 pm »
    I do like the sound of this set up, and thanks for the info. I think a few brazil nut pods and rain forest leaves would be ideal for my tank!
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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 01:55:00 pm »
    Excellent!

    Only last week I was rummaging around in a tank and one of the bamboo 'caves' that I've been using for more than five years split as I was lifting it. "Time to think about replacing them soonish", I thought.  So I've ordered some Savu pods (I've been meaning to try them for a while) and Brazil nut thingies.  It's a shame they don't seem to indicate what size most of their catalogue items are - but we'll see, I guess!

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #3 on: May 10, 2017, 02:02:28 pm »
    On their ebay listings, at least one of the photos of each item type is shown next to a ruler. For example, the last photo on:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181625269159

    Beware, sometimes it's the inches side of the ruler showing and sometimes it's in cm!

    Also there is of course natural variation in size between the pods; again this can be estimated from the photos on the ebay listings.
    9 tropical tanks, 1 marine

    Bred:
    Cichlids: Dicrossus filamentosus; Pelvicachromis subocellatus 'Moanda'; Biotodoma cupido
    Catfish: Ancistrus 'Rio Paraguay'; Panaqolus sp. L397; Pseudolithoxus dumus; Farlowella vittata; Corydoras melini, burgessi, oiapoquensis
    Loaches: Pangio myersi
    Tetras: Moenkhausia sanctaefilomenae; Copella meinkeni

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #4 on: May 10, 2017, 06:48:46 pm »
    wow.Paul. Saved the site.
    Having some of the Cavu pods.
    Will try to harvest more wallnut next autumn. The tanins seem to be used in artificial tanning creams.

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2017, 12:49:37 pm »
    I'll sticky it as you haven't................... :P
    Sent from my PC as I still don't understand the the logic for mobile internet usage ;) *grin*
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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #6 on: May 11, 2017, 01:40:45 pm »
    My selection of seed pods has arrived :)
    9 tropical tanks, 1 marine

    Bred:
    Cichlids: Dicrossus filamentosus; Pelvicachromis subocellatus 'Moanda'; Biotodoma cupido
    Catfish: Ancistrus 'Rio Paraguay'; Panaqolus sp. L397; Pseudolithoxus dumus; Farlowella vittata; Corydoras melini, burgessi, oiapoquensis
    Loaches: Pangio myersi
    Tetras: Moenkhausia sanctaefilomenae; Copella meinkeni

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #7 on: May 11, 2017, 02:20:19 pm »
    Mine tried to arrive, too! Postie left a card while we were out, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to pick them up from the Postie's Nest.

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #8 on: May 11, 2017, 08:23:08 pm »
    For now I have thrown all mine in a bucket of water with an airstone.
    Although they are floating, they're mostly quite low in the water - they wouldn't make an effective boat in choppy waters!

    The bigger ones are almost coconut-sized and would make a great spawning cave for dwarf cichlids. The smaller ones would be ideal as hidey-holes for juvenile fish.
    9 tropical tanks, 1 marine

    Bred:
    Cichlids: Dicrossus filamentosus; Pelvicachromis subocellatus 'Moanda'; Biotodoma cupido
    Catfish: Ancistrus 'Rio Paraguay'; Panaqolus sp. L397; Pseudolithoxus dumus; Farlowella vittata; Corydoras melini, burgessi, oiapoquensis
    Loaches: Pangio myersi
    Tetras: Moenkhausia sanctaefilomenae; Copella meinkeni

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #9 on: May 11, 2017, 09:07:04 pm »
    My selection of seed pods has arrived :)
    The sigar like ones are the ones I have !

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #10 on: May 11, 2017, 09:13:47 pm »
    My selection of seed pods has arrived :)
    The sigar like ones are the ones I have !

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    Yes, those are the Savu pods. They're a nice shape but a bit small for most adult fish. I'm looking forward to scaping a tank with these :)
    9 tropical tanks, 1 marine

    Bred:
    Cichlids: Dicrossus filamentosus; Pelvicachromis subocellatus 'Moanda'; Biotodoma cupido
    Catfish: Ancistrus 'Rio Paraguay'; Panaqolus sp. L397; Pseudolithoxus dumus; Farlowella vittata; Corydoras melini, burgessi, oiapoquensis
    Loaches: Pangio myersi
    Tetras: Moenkhausia sanctaefilomenae; Copella meinkeni

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #11 on: May 12, 2017, 01:53:26 pm »
    I collected mine this morning and have put them in to soak. One of the half-mini-coconut things sank straight away ; the others are trying their best. They look to be ideally-sized as lurking docks for Licorice Gourami - though they could be a little deeper, I suppose. Time will tell.

    The Savu pods are slightly smaller than I'd expected but that was probably ignorance on my part. I have an idea that they might be pressed into service initially as blackworm traps ; then, if that doesn't work, as shrimp playpens.

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #12 on: May 12, 2017, 02:54:00 pm »
    Stop Press!

    All items except for one semi-bouyant Savu pod have now sunk. Not bad for less than three hours' immersion!

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #13 on: May 12, 2017, 04:09:54 pm »
    Good news! Otto Kretschmer must have been busy in your bucket.

    When I read the American site I did think they seemed rather keen to boil everything to death (a bit like my mother's Brussel sprouts).

    Most of mine were still floating this morning but I will file another buoyancy report tomorrow.

    I got my Savu pods from a different seller on ebay and received a range of sizes.
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321799731576
    They're big enough for a small adult Dicrossus to go in, but probably not to turn round inside. They'll be ideal hiding places for the juveniles, at least for another month or so as they're growing well.

    9 tropical tanks, 1 marine

    Bred:
    Cichlids: Dicrossus filamentosus; Pelvicachromis subocellatus 'Moanda'; Biotodoma cupido
    Catfish: Ancistrus 'Rio Paraguay'; Panaqolus sp. L397; Pseudolithoxus dumus; Farlowella vittata; Corydoras melini, burgessi, oiapoquensis
    Loaches: Pangio myersi
    Tetras: Moenkhausia sanctaefilomenae; Copella meinkeni

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    Re: Natural Decor and Tannins
    « Reply #14 on: May 12, 2017, 08:02:07 pm »
    Great to hear that you are both happy with your purchases. I'll get my order in this weekend.
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