Off Topic. => The Lounge. => Topic started by: lurch1000 on September 17, 2012, 07:31:20 pm
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 17, 2012, 07:31:20 pm
I'm in need of a motorbike, so thought I'd canvas some opinion.
I did a CBT in 2004, and ran a 125 for nearly a year, but haven't (until today) been back on a bike for 7 years. Today was my CBT, and achieved it with flying colours. They also assessed me for my full licence, and decided I had enough ability and comfort on the road, I could do a 3 day course. Result! Saves some money :-)
So, I've done loads of theory practice and get between 48 and 50 all the time, I've also had a practice DVD for the Hazard Perception test, but that, while always a pass, could do with being better, so I've just ordered the DSA DVD for extra practice, and have my theory test booked for the 5th October.
Now, all being well, and they allow me a licence to ride anything out there, it's a case of what to get. I'm looking for a tourer with full fairings and heated grips (although the latter can be retro-fitted), around the 650cc mark, and around the £2000 price tag. I'd ideally also like to buy one with a 3 box set as it'll be cheaper than buying new (about £500 apparently).
The reason I'm looking for a bike with a 650 engine and at that price is purely insurance. Value has the biggest impact on insurance, followed by the cc to a much lesser extent. I'll be using the bike for long motorway journeys, so I need good mpg (hence a 650 over a 1000), and comfort - so fairings and heated grips for inclement weather is a must.
Any suggestions would be gratefully welcomed for a well priced bike with good mpg and a low insurance cost.
Thank you all!
D
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on September 17, 2012, 07:47:11 pm
Oooo very exciting Damo!!!!!! I would go for half a bandit(600-650) as a first proper bike.Cheap insurance,reliable and there are loads of after market parts available at very good prices.They can be a bit sluggish around town but swapping the front sprocket for a 14 tooth one sorts out the problem for about £10.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 17, 2012, 07:55:56 pm
Hi Andy, after I'd posted I thought of you! Seen a fair few about, and they're all at good prices.
I was told that I'm coming in to the good time of year to buy bikes as folk sell them after the summer.
Only thing that concerns me with the Bandit (from what I've seen of them) is they have a small windshield and I've not seen any with fairings, or have I been looking at the wrong ones? I will be doing bonkers journeys in all weather conditions, all year round with moderate amounts of luggage.
Where do you recommend for bikes? Few towards your way, though I have Jordan's down the road.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on September 17, 2012, 08:13:38 pm
Have you looked at the Honda varadero 650? Or the transalp? Or suzuki vstrom? You should be able to find a decent one with panniers and top box. Maybe heated grips too, although if they're aftermarket grips make sure they're hooked up correctly. All those bikes have decent screens for wind protection.
Will a 650 be enough for you? Have a look for a Honda VFR 800 or perhaps a cheap 2nd hand triumph tiger. Might be worth the extra in the long run
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 17, 2012, 08:21:21 pm
Thanks Paul, I'll have a google at those later.
I've looked at the V-Strom, and I really liked it, need to be the full in GT version.
I love Triumphs, I'd actually love a Daytona, and if I had a bike purely for pleasure, that would be it. Tigers are nice too, and saw a Trophy 900 for a steal, but it was quite oid.
As for what engine size - it's not so much about the insurance, but the fuel economy. I think I'm the only person on the planet who's looking at bike mpg! It's so hard to find it out. However, V-Strom 650 (2012 model) will do about 55mpg, Trophy 900 does 45mpg, so the smaller engine is preferable. What were your concerns over the 650s vs the 800s?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 17, 2012, 08:24:57 pm
I would recomend a bandit, there not fastest bikes out there but lots of fun, its one of many bikes i owned and really enjoyed riding
Mine was streetfightered and had two very important mods that i never realised how much of a diffference it made till i rode a 600 bandit recently and was disapointed and that is Dynojet kit along with K &N Filter and race can
The bike i rode recently felt really flat and boring and under powered the one i had that had these mods was so much fun, i lok back on that bike with fond memorys
Ive had loads of bikes since that one but i still rate it as a very fun and yet practicle bike, perfect for day to day riding
I went on too a 1200 bandit when i got used to the power of the 600, but it was never as much fun as you couldnt really run it flat out all over the place where the 600 everyday there was a chance to thrash it
Yeah no fairing but in some ways they are good others they are bad
Good for stopping your head getting ripped off at 130mph wind (about as fast as the 600 bandit goes)
Horrible in hot weather or really windy wheather
Id say more importantly get the best bash hat you can shoei or arai are my favorite, i find both very comfortable
And same with Jacket and trouser cheap ones dont last and let water in expensive last for years Dainese or alpanstars both very good
And more importantly when you get knocked off means less breaks bruises aches and pains
Or second choice not really a tourer but worth a look at cbr600, in my opionion honda make the most reliable bikes and when you ride them they do everything how you would want, be it a cbr600 900 or vtr or any of there bikes hondas have a feel about them that is very comforting, it wont break down (well pretty rare and normally a aftermarket alarm is to blame)
Or Fazer 600 good for what your after, but the build quality is nothing like a honda
As for luggage Top box is convieniant, but dont find you would really need side boxes day in day out, id say go with throwover bags, good thing with these you can take em from bike to bike
Look at Kriega gear this is fantastic gear, not cheapest but very very good quality will last you years
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: wobblewobble on September 17, 2012, 08:25:23 pm
SV 650 S
nice cheap reliable bike
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 17, 2012, 08:27:43 pm
i could do you a very good deal on a 955I tiger with luggage
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 17, 2012, 08:35:01 pm
Lots of tempting suggestions coming in! :) Lots of googling coming up soon!
The luggage racks are essential. I will be using this bike to go to jobs nationwide. The reason I thoughts of boxes is that they will lock on to the bike, thus being secure. And weather protection is essential.
As for top speed - that's of little consequence, as long as it can handle typical motorway flow speeds, it'll be more than adequate!
Tiger sounds very tempting, got a pic and a rough price? Might throw it through gocompare for an idea on insurance, plus any ideas as to mpg?
Can one have fairings fitted to most bikes?
Thanks!
Damian
Title: Re: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on September 17, 2012, 08:51:37 pm
I've looked at the V-Strom, and I really liked it, need to be the full in GT version.
I love Triumphs, I'd actually love a Daytona, and if I had a bike purely for pleasure, that would be it. Tigers are nice too, and saw a Trophy 900 for a steal, but it was quite oid.
As for what engine size - it's not so much about the insurance, but the fuel economy. I think I'm the only person on the planet who's looking at bike mpg! It's so hard to find it out. However, V-Strom 650 (2012 model) will do about 55mpg, Trophy 900 does 45mpg, so the smaller engine is preferable. What were your concerns over the 650s vs the 800s?
Only thing I was thinking was how comfortable a 650 would be on motorways for long journeys. Thought an 800 would be better plus quicker away at lights and such. That said it all depends on the bike, I've got a GSX R 600 that's much quicker away than the VFR. I toured around Canada on a VFR, decent bike but not particularly exciting.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 17, 2012, 09:03:18 pm
I dont seem to have any pics on it since i had a harddisc go down a few months ago, something else ive just realised i lost grrr
But i havent ridden it for a while, not sure of mpg to be honest i know it has a good tank range 200 miles plus, which is a big thing to consider if touring
Last time i rode it was to spain to watch motogp, thats all ive really used it for and it was very comfortable, i came back from barcelona in one day of solid ridding think thats about 1000 miles, oh yeah its got a gel seat which is probably why so comfortable
It was involved in a crash at some part of life and is registered as a cat C but has been repaired by previous owner
Its got a few scratches on it, Crash bars i added and extra accessory socket, triumph race can with road legal plate on to make it look legal, inner triumph soft luggage bags, progressive front springs, high screen, race screen loadsa extras realy
Needs a new set of heated grips as one not working
Colour is silver and black
I would sell her for £2500, which is very very cheap for one of these check em out on ebay
Its a 2005 model, i would say only thing worth doing is changing the break discs to floating discs cause as standard there pretty naff in comparison to other bikes
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 17, 2012, 09:05:37 pm
VFR 800 yes very good bike, definatly one for the list, cant go wrong with honda
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on September 17, 2012, 09:12:29 pm
You can have a fairing fitted if some one makes it for your bike.I just did a little digging and found this-http://www.fastbikebits.com/product/1510/suzuki-bandit-full-fairing
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 17, 2012, 10:05:55 pm
Been a googling.
I do like the Varadero best so far, very smart looking thing, although there's no 650s within 50 miles of here according to Autotrader, plenty of 1000s and 125s though. Not sure the VFR or the SV will be suitable for the use the bike will be getting, although both, particularly the VFR seem lovely bikes.
Back to the Triumph - the 955i looks like it has the mpg, first couple of reviews suggest 50mpg if ridden steadily, and reports of 60mpg @ 60mph, but that's a wee bit slow for motorways these days. MCN suggests 44mpg, but at your price with all the luggage sets, it's ticking boxes. Just looked at insurance, and cheapest quote was on a par with most, although oddly enough the next dearest was considerably more than the cheapest which I haven't seen with other quotes. The only think concerning me is weather protection for the legs, can't seem to find an after market fairing.
Saw this too... http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikes-for-sale/searchresults/detail/Honda/NT650V-DEAUVILLE/2004/_/R-NXGN-2242923?mfy=42.210599 (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikes-for-sale/searchresults/detail/Honda/NT650V-DEAUVILLE/2004/_/R-NXGN-2242923?mfy=42.210599)
Just checked insurance on the Deauville based on on '05 model @ £3300 - comes in at £250 CHEAPER than an '06 V-Strom, which so far has been the cheapest but one bike I've looked at insuring! The cheapest was a 1000CC '05 Caponord, but that was only a margin cheaper.... I'm wondering if this might be the way forwards.
Thing is with getting a bike, it has to work on the cost of insurance, and the fuel as well as practicality.
It's a headache, and I've not even applied for my practical yet!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Daveyrach on September 17, 2012, 11:31:55 pm
I have an SV650S I use it to commute 25 miles a day. Only had one prob in 2 years and that was a broken clutch cable.
Cheap to buy, cheap to run, cheap to insure. Check out www.SV650.org there is s forum there I am on it same user name.
I can't recommend the SV enough as a first bike.
Get good motorway miles out of it and id very chuckable out in the country roads. Will even keep up with a CBR ridden at pace through the twisties.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 18, 2012, 08:44:10 am
Hi Lurch,
I can't really comment on a good tourer as I've always had sports bikes but the one thing I found really helpful for high mileage was a Scotoiler. This saves you oiling the chain by doing it automatically and trebles the chain life. May be worth looking out for one already fitted to a bike your looking at to save yourself some cash. If you plan on cleaning and oiling your chain yourself then don't bother,but if your lazy like me they are a good buy.
I second what Lee F said about buying the best kit you can afford especially helmets,how much is your brain worth? Also cheap kit doesn't last and you end up buying it again. There are deals on helmets and kit online all the time if you take a few hours to search for it. Good luck!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on September 18, 2012, 08:57:06 am
Scotoilers are a great bit of kit.
Be wary of buying clothing and helmets though, expensive doesn't always mean better. Check out RiDE magazine as they do loads of real world product tests http://www.ride.co.uk/Product-Tests/ and for helmets, fit is more important than price, it's about trying loads on. Also check out the safety ratings on the government website http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/ they give independent advice on fit and which models have the best safety rating. 5* helmets range from £70 to £500. I'd suggest have a look at a few items you'd like based on reviews and safety reports, then head down to Motorcycle Live in Birmingham at the end of November (if you can wait that long) http://www.motorcyclelive.co.uk/ you can try on loads of stuff and get some great deals
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2012, 09:17:51 am
I've heard of the Scotoilers, they do sound very worthwhile.
I already have some gear from when I had a 125 years ago. I also have a Caberg V2 helmet, and it has the additional drop-down tinted inner visor for sunny roads. It's a good helmet too. I just bought a new jacket - Frank Thomas I think. Way more armour in it than the last effort I had. I have some Akito/Cougar trousers which I originally bought for wet weather, but they have reasonable knee protection in them. I may upgrade them to match the jacket, as it looks like the jacket can accommodate trousers by zip attachment at the small of the back. I have some Akito leather gloves that are quite colourful, but have metal studs on the heel of the palm for hands down slides.
I think I was on bikerider.co.uk and there was some useful info on helmets, and there's an independent star rating for each lid which is loosely based on how an impact is distributed around the head, and has green, amber and red areas to show how bad an impact would affect certain areas of the head, and as mentioned, the prices started from £70 all the way up, and certainly the dearest helmet was not the best for protection.
I've always liked the idea of the helmets where you can hinge up the face, but of course, that's not necessary at all, and if you get a white one, people may think you're the law! :)
When I had the 125 years ago, I only came off the bike once, I was pulling up on some gravel on some off road parking, and must have been turning slightly, so the back slid round, and me and the bike just toppled over. Thankfully I was barely moving, and the only damage was ego with a side helping of embarrassment!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 18, 2012, 10:07:22 am
I wouldn't worry to much about a full fairing on the bike, Yes they help keep the rain of you to a degree, but its not like a big umbrella
You would still need to wear something waterproof riding a faired bike in the rain
The big thing to look for is a high screen, that is the big advantage as it reduces wind buffeting and noise at speed
Sports bike fairings are designed with aerodynamics in mind which only comes in to play at 70mph plus
The caponord is a good bike but trying to get parts is a nightmare and expensive, i would steer well clear
The 1000cc Varadero is a very capable bike and again classic honda build quality
Personally the sv650 im not a fan of and would choose a 4 cylinder machine (Bandit) over the twin especially if doing lots of miles, id say there a marmite bike you either love em or hate em
V twins are very different in the way the power is produced, they have better grip or traction in wet whether because the power pulses give the tyre time to regain grip but you can also feel these pulse as vibration if you like, a four cylinder engine is very smooth by comparison, much nicer to ride long distance on
I would say the 1000cc varadero is an exception or maybe just more refined of most the V twins i have ridden
If i was you i would prioratise comfort and reliability (Honda) over everything else unless there is something that comes along cheap enough to justify it
I still stand with 600 bandit, With a race can and dynojet kit not for speed but for engine responsiveness, quiet often you can get better mpg buy having these mods if you can control your riding style and not just with the bandit any bike and the race can for safety not for speed, bikes are so small in the traffic that yes car drivers dont see you all the time so a little noise can help focus there attention, and you can get a bandit with a half fairing, loads of spares available very cheap bike bet theres loads of luggage systems available
The bandits are tuned for low down power so very rideable, not the smothest of engine but easy to work on and well proven reliability
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2012, 10:20:50 am
Thanks Lee.
I may pop out to a bike shop later and have a look round the Bandits. Also be a good measure of the shop if they'll help me with bike choice and info at this stage, it'll show they're keen.
Wouldn't mind having a look at a Deauville too. It looks like the kind of bike I have in mind, and I'm still bowled over by the insurance quote. Upon more research, they seem to be very capable when fully loaded with luggage.
I went to Appleyard's in Leeds, and I explained that I was starting out in Direct Access, but I was looking for a bike that would do as I mentioned earlier, chap seemed very uninterested, and said he could do a V-Strom for £6500, did I want to buy it now?
Went to Jordan's in Gildersome (J27 M62) and explained my situation, and the bloke bent over backwards with information, and afterwards invited me back once I'd passed my test as he'd have more bikes in, and they'd be a better price then as prices lower at the start of winter. Excellent service.
A friend of mine has some nice BMW tourer, 1100 cc I think, beautiful comfy looking bike. If they weren't so damned expensive, I might have considered it :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on September 18, 2012, 10:49:52 am
I got my bike from Jordans in Leeds. Decent guys in there
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2012, 10:53:24 am
Another +1 for Jordan's then. I don't know anyone who's bought from there, but clean showroom and good attitude is very encouraging.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 18, 2012, 11:52:10 am
Be very careful when taking advice off sales people and bikes,it's a bit like fish shops! Some (not all) will base their advice on shifting a certain bike or based on their commission.
Bike choice is a very personal thing. When your ready try them out on a good test ride,with a variety of roads(dual carriageway,round town etc).
Even better if you can ride them back to back to form an opinion whilst it's fresh in your mind.
As with the helmets,clothing etc,try as much out as you can in store to get an idea then look if you can get a better deal elsewhere or will they match it? End of the month and as we get closer to the winter time they will need your custom,so haggle!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on September 18, 2012, 12:05:18 pm
Don't be surprised if many shops won't let you test ride bikes though...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2012, 12:07:49 pm
I guess that figures - afterall, it's not like a car where they can sit in the passenger seat and sell the vehicle at the same time!
If I don't like it, I can always swap it out after a while. If I get one, say within 6 weeks, I've still got plenty of winter to go find another one!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 18, 2012, 12:26:10 pm
I've never bought a bike without riding it first. If they know your serious and have the cash to spend and still refuse a test ride walk out and take your wallet with you.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 18, 2012, 01:45:56 pm
I think with all what your saying you are after in a bike the Deauville would be perfect for you
They was based on the Honda NTV a very popular bike with london couriors because they just go on and on
They had the nick name of dullsville as there pretty boring to look at, but again not everyone wants a 200mph sportsbike
The build quality is going to be ten times as good as the bandit just hasnt got street cred thats all, but still a very capable bike and comfortable
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on September 18, 2012, 01:53:02 pm
What about a pan European? It's basically one up from the deauville. Police used them for years
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on September 18, 2012, 02:47:37 pm
If your looking at a Deauville have a look at this as a guide at whats about. http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=Deauville+&_sacat=422&_odkw=&_osacat=422 A lot of dealers advertise on ebay instead of bike trader.I got my bike of the bay and would recomend it as you can pick up some great deals but make sure you have a good look and a ride of the bike before you bid.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2012, 02:59:30 pm
Cheers for the link Andy. I've only been using Autotrader as a guide so far, as I'm not quite ready to buy, I'm not quite doing as widespread searching as I need to just yet.
Had a look at the Pan European, stunning machines, my old neighbour used to have a lovely dark red one, but they're a much higher insurance group than the NTs, so probably out the question unless I get one for an absolute steal.
It looks like the Deauville is going to be the winner unless I discover other bikes that do 55+ to the gallon that are Group 10 or lower.
I'm gonna be terrified riding a bike to test drive it as it will be my first time riding a big bike without someone giving me instructions in my ear! Might take you along Andy :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 18, 2012, 04:32:28 pm
You never know you may find it easier! Better brakes,easier launch and more stable than small bikes. Just bet careful at low speeds,as soon as your moving it'll feel similar to what your used to and the extra size will disappear!*grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2012, 04:34:36 pm
Terrified of making a tit of myself in public :-)
I'll be learning on a Suzuki 500, not sure which modell, but they're fairly basic - no frills! :-)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 18, 2012, 04:35:44 pm
Try to go when it's quiet,no spectators!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2012, 04:37:58 pm
I'll just buy it, get it delivered and do my first run out at night :)
Mind you, on the CBT I was more worried in the playground, but once we got on the road, it all came back and felt natural.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 18, 2012, 04:49:56 pm
I remember when I bought my first big bike. Sunny day when I picked it up and half a dozen people milling around outside. I was bricking it,praying I wouldn't stall or drop it. Had the shock of my life when I found the clutch was 10 times easier than my 2 stroke 125! roflmao
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 18, 2012, 05:19:20 pm
Another plus with the dullsville is there shaft drive so no chain and sprockets to worry about, that save you about a hundred quid a year
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2012, 05:51:55 pm
I did stall the 125 at some lights on the CBT. Unfortunately you can't start the damn thing in gear, and the neutral slot was very small, even smaller when you're trying to hurry!
Lee - I was thinking that about shaft drives, only oil required! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 24, 2012, 11:43:59 pm
So...
CBT - done! Theory Oct 5th Training Oct 9th Training at DSA Mod1 ground Oct 13th Mod1 test Oct 15th Mod2 test Oct 16th
Things are moving at pace! Passed a bike shop today (Dyrons) and they had a Deauville in. More than I wanted to spend, but the guy was really accommodationg, and showed me round the bike. Panniers aren't as big as I thought, but I liked the bike.
On canvassing more opinion, it sounds like a half faired bike may well do, and get some decent thermals as apparently it's the feet that get it the worst. Bit of a dilemma in that a bike that doesn't have inbuilt panniers means I can have bigger ones. Had a look on eBay filtering tourers and sport tourers, and it seems the V-Strom GT or the Deauville are the most suitable bikes in the 650 size, but there's next to no V-S about, not in my price range (up to £2500).
Deauville it is I think. I did look for Varaderos, but I can only find 1000cc versions.
Thanks again all for the help and suggestions, I'll keep you posted as to how it all progresses!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: FastFerret on September 25, 2012, 09:25:14 am
I've been riding since I first learnt to at school in Bracknell during 'Motor vehicle studies' class. That was back in 1979. Ive since had more bikes than I can remember and thanks to working at a bike dealership in the '80s I had a wide experience of all sorts of bikes and yet, onlt twice have I found a bike that I instantly gelled with and immediately felt comfortable and safe on. The first was a Yamaha Thunderace and the second was my present bike, a T595 Triumph Daytona (955cc). You will no doubt go through the same thing until you find the right bike for yourself but make sure you are not shy and make use of every opportunity to ride all sorts of bikes on dealers open days or even one you see in a shop and fancy - go in and ask for a test ride.
It makes all the difference in the world riding a bike that suits you rather than one you have to ride. Attached are three photos of the last three bikes I owned and as you can see, they are all very different from each other.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 09:57:41 am
The T595 is the bike I would really love to have, but for the time being, the bike has to be practical. All look lovely bikes.
I've been having a good search in my price bracket and within bikes that will suit my purpose, and as I mentioned, it's the Deaville or the V-S that keeps popping up.
Seen an '02 Deauville at a dealer, 47k on the clock, £1990. There's also a '01 (51) with 18800 on the clock, with top box as well that's £2300. Not sure which to go for, other than the cheaper one is nearer, and is a nice red, whereas the other is beige and in Oldham!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 25, 2012, 10:07:41 am
47K is quiet high millage for a bike
The engines tend to go on and on, but wheel bearings, headrace bearings, fork oil, fork seals, brake hoses, gearboxes, all suffer whith millage
You might not notice it but a 47K bike will feel very tired unless it has had lots of maintance, silly things like the pedal pivots wear and fill loose, gear linkages wear making crashed gears and then gearbox wear
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 25, 2012, 11:19:47 am
Ive had many bikes and still have, i think to be honest all bikes today can be made to suit the rider and its supprising how much difference adjusting suspension can make
Only exception to that id say is if your very tall or very short, then you really need bikes of right size for you
Im obsessed with bikes have been for years ive had bikes and sold them thinking they didnt suit me, but as time went on i lernt more and more and genrally find now that with a few adjustments bikes can be made to suit rider
I bought a Honda fireblade fell in love with it on a test ride, but after i bought it and confidece grew, i found my self overtaking a car that was doing about 30mph, my bike went into a mental tank slapper as i got by side of car, i shut power down and reaplied same again tank slapper, gingerly tried again got past, i thought what the hell had happened there, i thought jeeze these bikes really need treating with kid gloves, then i started to think the guy who previously owned it was quiet large, anyway cut long story short the rear suspension preload was wound up really hard, i adjusted it and it totally calmed the bike down
I had a Suzuki hayabusa that was tuned to the nuts, this would easily do an indicated 200mph, but i bought it on a weekend took it out and couldnt get it to change direction easily, i was climbing all over the bike, i thought id made a mistake getting the bike and it was too big for me, i struugled with it all over the weekend trying to muscle it around bends, took it home parked it up, i thought you know what i havent even checked tire pressures, checked them and rear tire was down buy about ten psi, i pumped it up, following day i took it to work in busy traffic, the bike felt completly different very nimble, so silly things can really alter a bikes handling
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 12:00:55 pm
Well, I'm 6'2", and I've sat on both the 650 and 700 NTVs, and both are comfortable. Not ridden them yet.
Just went to look at the £1990 02 plate with 47k, and it's had the exhaust replaced with a stainless affair, as the originals were pront to rusting at the welds (so I was told). He fired it up, and it was right there, sounded sweet. He said he'd also do £150 for me.
He also had a Sprint ST 1050 with full luggage (£4k) which I nearly bought :-) and there was an FJS1300 with full luggage that looked very smart.
The only consideration I've brought to proceedings so far is that the Deauville side boxes are quite small, I'd also want to see if I could get inner liners for them so I could easily remove luggage at my destination. Or... Buy a bike with removable and bigger panniers. However, I can wear a rucksack (do they do ones that will protect laptops), get a tank bag, and fit a decent sized top box.
Not as easy as I thought buying a bike!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 25, 2012, 12:39:47 pm
You have to go through a lot to get a bike licence now,mod 1 and 2? Do they teach anything useful in that or is it a way of getting more cash off you? Glad I did mine so long ago a bloke walked in front of you with a little white flag!
Fast ferret,nice triumph,how do you find it?I loved the thunder ace as well,nice solid bike not like the light twitchy bikes you get now.
Sorry to tell you lurch it's not your feet that get soaked on a long ride but a much more uncomfortable area,welcome to biking! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: FastFerret on September 25, 2012, 01:17:13 pm
The Daytona is my third triumph. The 2000 Sprint ST I had was a great bike, excellent luggage provision and very comfy but I found it a bit heavy on the wrists over long distances - that was resolved with dual Carpal Tunnel operations a year later. I then went for a 2005 Tiger 955i which was also an excellent bike but so predictable it became boring and not at all interesting to ride. The '98 Daytona is more extreme than either of these, far more capable than I will ever be (especially now i'm a cyclops) and has a heart and soul built in that few machines ever have and that's what works for me and makes it special. There is a sound reminiscent of a WWII spitfire when the throttle is opened even in its totally stock spec. that puts a grin on your face.
I agree fully with Lee F, any bike can be made to suit a rider (within reason, I test rode a Nightrod special once, once was enough!!) which is why it is a special moment when you climb onto a bike for the first time and immediately feel that it is where you belong before you even touch the starter.
This level of immediate comfort is confidence inspiring and makes for a fuller happier motorcycling experience.
A track day at Rockingham saw the Daytona run off the clock and put a Power ranger on his CBR900RR to shame much to my surprise and his and I mention this only to support that there are a lot of really good bikes out there for little money so don't ignore anything before you've tried it, I paid £750 for the Daytona and spent another £600 to tart it up and make it more to my personal taste.
Try a 955i Sprint ST and compare it to a 1050, totally different feel from both bikes. There is always though one bike which is legendary and for good reason, the Honda VFR 750/800 is a long distance legend and well worth investigating.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 02:22:18 pm
You have to go through a lot to get a bike licence now,mod 1 and 2? Do they teach anything useful in that or is it a way of getting more cash off you? Glad I did mine so long ago a bloke walked in front of you with a little white flag!
Mod 1 is checking you can do the off road stuff, plus some of the playground stuff (swerves, slaloms, emergency stop etc) before you go out on the road, and you have to pass it before Mod 2 which is purely on-road for about 40 minutes. Mod 1 is about 20 I think.
I did my driving test in '93, and there was no theory, just a 45 min drive followed by some Highway Code questions, and the examiner ad a flip-pad of roadsigns, picked a couple at random and asked what it was, job done. Not sure it makes much difference to the riding schools really.
Sorry to tell you lurch it's not your feet that get soaked on a long ride but a much more uncomfortable area,welcome to biking! *grin*
I do remember that from my 125. First rainfall and I went off to buy some waterproof trousers, which were fine until a really hefty downpour.
Had a look up on the reviews of the Deauville, and it appears to be much the same as the Pans. Deauville is good for well in to 6 figures on mileage, and the STs good for 250k easily.
Just looked up the Sprint STs and the FJR(not S)1300s, and they're heavy on fuel (compared to the NTV) and 5 insurance groups higher.
Trouble is that it's hard to find motorway mpg from anywhere, just an average mpg. And because the NTV650 has been superseded, so hard to find manufacturer's info out about it.
I'm thinking that the bike for £1840 isn't going to be such a bad buy, and until I've owned one for a while, I'm not going to know if I truly like it, so I'm thinking get it, try it, get a decent top box/tank bag/rucksack for additional luggage, run it for 12 months, see what I think. If I like it, then either keep it if it's solid, or maybe got for the newer NTV700. If I don't, see what I might like to swap to. If it's a current model, then badger a main dealer for a run-out. I guess they may be more open to allowing test rides if you're leaving another bike/car there while you're out, and actually have a licence.
What's a "tank slapper" by the way? I'm assuming it's not someone from Castleford... :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: FastFerret on September 25, 2012, 03:09:57 pm
What's a "tank slapper" by the way? I'm assuming it's not someone from Castleford... :)
That's when the tank and handlebars cannot decide between them which way to go and the tank slaps yours thighs during the argument. Holding the bars tightly in this situation is usually the worst thing to do as the bars will then make you shake the rest of the bike so easing off your grip will often sort it out but will require balls of steel or years of experience to execute it safely.
I hit some very rough road surface in Thurnscoe, Rotherham a while ago while accelerating hard and the front end hopped and skipped all over the place but, and this is the mark of a well constructed bike, the bike held the straight line and the suspension sorted it all out without me having time to worry. It is moments like this that sort the thoroughbreds from the donkeys.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 25, 2012, 03:24:21 pm
If your still looking for a bike, the NTV's are good for small tourers, the only downside is there pretty heavy. I've had my fair share of bikes from cruisers, naked to sports and retro! Currently have a few:-
Honda NTV 650 Yamaha YZF1000R Thunderace Kawasaki Z1000 ( best year 2005! ) Triumph Thruxton
A good idea is to go look around dealers, sit on a few bikes you like and see what you find comfy. Worse thing is to buy a bike and not like the position once you have it!
A good list of first big bikes ( From experience and have ridden them all! ) are these:- Suzuki GSF 600 N Suzuki GSF 600 S ( semi-faired ) Yamaha XJ600/900 S Diversion Honda CBR 600 F ( latest model is small and light so go for the slightly older F model! ) Yamaha Fazer 600 ( again older with the catseyes but single exhaust ) Yamaha TDM 900 ( Cracking bike for taller riders for touring, plenty of torque and feels like a v-twin to ride ) Honda VFR 800 Vtec ( Lovely bike, V-tec takes a bit of getting used to as it kicks in around 5-6K RPM )
I've ridden and owned plenty more but they are probs some of the best all rounders you will find!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 03:39:36 pm
Seems to be a lot of love for the VFR.
How suited are the VFRs as a touring-esque bike? Especially when it comes to luggage?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: FastFerret on September 25, 2012, 04:00:22 pm
How suited are the VFRs as a touring-esque bike? Especially when it comes to luggage?
They are legendary and often the standard by which every other bike is judged. BIKE and RiDE magazine both agreed that the 2000 Sprint ST was the only comparable competitor to the VFRs' sports touring crown.
A +1998 VFR still holds its price well due to build quality, performance, comfort and reliability. This has led to numerous after market companies making luggage and extras for them so kitting one up at a good price is not too daunting at all.
@Fr499y - thats a garage full worth having - well done. *cheers*
Title: Re: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on September 25, 2012, 04:30:47 pm
How suited are the VFRs as a touring-esque bike? Especially when it comes to luggage?
I toured round Canada on one for a month with hard panniers and top box. Comfortable and easy to remove panniers
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 04:42:57 pm
Been doing a little digging on the VFR 750/800. Fuel economy (MCN) averages out at less than 40mpg, and the insurance group is a lot higher than the NTV.
I'm very tempted to go back tomorrow and get that NTV, just need to make sure I can get TPFT insurance that reflects that I will have passed my test before it goes out on the road. It will be anchored down and disc-brake locked in my garage in the meantime, so hopefully the quote of £220 that I've had for it will stand. Assuming I go for it of course.
I asked my daughter what she thought, and she hates it. So I enquired as to why... She wants a blue one! I've managed to appease her by saying she can sit on it and make it go "brrmm" in the garage. So easily pleased!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 05:09:47 pm
Currently looking at bike security, I guess Thatcham approved will go down well with insurers.
What should I look for as mobile security? Disc lock? Chain? Both?
Considering ground anchor for the garage too.
Any suggestions as to what to buy, and where to buy it would be appreciated.
Any biking forums that you can recommend would be welcomed too!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on September 25, 2012, 06:12:22 pm
Out and about security I just go with a disc lock. I use the motrax vishas http://www.megamotorcyclestore.co.uk/motrax-vishas-vd1s-thatcham-motorcycle-disc-lock-chrome/
But do buy a reminder cable! I wheeled mine back and broke a fairing, other people break discs and forks!
As for home security, if it can't be seen then great so if it's in a garage it'll be ok, if not buy a cover. If you're going to get a ground anchor then make sure it's placed in the corner or on a wall. Ride magazine did an article a few years back and showed how easy it was to just smash a lock with a sledgehammer if it's on the floor.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 06:35:22 pm
They also sell an alarmed one (for what that's worth) - with a reminder cable! http://www.megamotorcyclestore.co.uk/oxford-products-of3-boss-alarm-disc-lock/ (http://www.megamotorcyclestore.co.uk/oxford-products-of3-boss-alarm-disc-lock/) - I will forget it's there!
The bike will be garaged, and I'd never even thought of how easy or not it would be to smash a lock on the floor. The garage walls are brick, so I'd have to put the lock in a corner I think as it would probably quite easy to smash the anchor off the wall.
I'm quite amused by that little grenade style disc lock they do - not Thatcham, but very amusing!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 25, 2012, 07:11:38 pm
Squire ML2L is a awesome disc lock, the only lock i take with me everywhere on my bike. Could always get a data-tool S3/S4 fitted? approved alarm as well :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 07:27:31 pm
Seems like they often come with a chain too. Kinda 2 in 1 if you wanted to secure the bike to something or your ground anchor.
Couldn't see if it was Thatcham or not, but end of the day, if the insurance company like it...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 25, 2012, 08:20:09 pm
Dont rush in on the Deuville, its not really cheap with that millage, bikes just dont fare as well as cars, you wouldnt worry car wise if it had 47K on the clock, but bike parts are really expensive compared to cars
I have lots of expierence with working on bikes and at that sort of millage the engine will sound fine, there be nothing wrong with the engine, its a honda engines are very well made and i have stripped down a rebuilt many for myself and friends
Biggest worry i would have on bike with that millage is gearbox, the dogs on a motorbike gearbox only engage very slightly and what happens is the edges got nocked of them in time, this then leads to bike jumping out of gear which further increases wear, eventually they bend a selector fork slightly, then it really never engages properly, eventually you end up with a bike that keeps jumping out of gear, gearbox parts are very expensive and to change the parts is usually close to a complete enging strip down
It can happen on lower millage bikes, this one might be ok, but only way you could tell is to take it out for a spirited test ride
There is in my opionion nothing worse than a bike with bad gearbox and unfortunatly they can be easily damaged
If you can afford a VFR800 then definatly a fantastic bike
Triumphs are ok but very much a pipe and slippers bike ive had a few very different compared to a japanese bike and in my opionion japan do a better job shame to say it but its just true, the triumpths are generally much heavier dont seem to fare well to bad wheather suffer flacky paint
Im sorry but got to totally disagree that a Daytona would beat a cbr900 it may have done that day but i have seen it myself and rider skill seems to play the most part on track days, ive seen guys on rs250 making sportsbike riders look silly
One thing to bear in mind when comparing bike specifications is BHP isnt the be all and end all Think daytona is about 130BHP and Blade about 150BHP this really means nothing what is very noticible is Tourqe, the more tourqe you have the faster a bike will accelerate think daytona is about 70ft lbs and cbr900 about 75ft lbs, it is possible to have a bike with low bhp but high tourque figures, but at the end of the day depends if you know how to ride a bike how frightened you are of taking it to the edge, now the edge can be dramaticly altered with unsuitable tires, but all things being equal same rider same tires the cbr900 should beat the daytona, honda spend many millions developing there bikes unfortunatly triumph have nothing like the buget, where does this money go, it goes it to making things lighter, better balanced, smoother, more reliable, more efficeient, the daytona weighs nearly 200Kg the cbr 900 closer to 170Kg, thats close to 30Kg difference thats like carrying half a person with you
A lighter bike will accelerate, decelerate, change direction faster or just do everything at more sedate speeds with less effort
The whats in lees garage list
Triumph 955I Tiger (With pipe and slippers) Honda CBR929 Fireblade Honda XR650R Off Road and dirty bike Husaberg 650 Off road and supermoto absolute mental bike Suzuki RL250 1970s twin shock trials bike suzuki 1200 Bandit Ducati 998 Suzuki 1200 Turbo Charged Bandit (long term project finish it one day) Honda CB450DX (rotting in garden) Kawasaki KH125 (rotting in garden) Kawasaki z400 (rotting in garden)
I could go on there is more in very states of repair, but yes i like my bikes alot
There is not one bike that ticks all the boxes unfortunatly
And i do ride these bikes last year the Tiger brought me back from barcelona in a day, thats about a thousand miles, not the best bike i have but best suited to that journey
Id say get a 600 to get your confidence up and hone your skills, go honda because it is without a doubt best quality built bike you can get, if your after cheap thrills the 600 bandit is fantastic fun but from what your saying your after id be only really looking at three bikes, that be the dullsville, the vfr800 or a varadero 1000
The vfr800 have always been underrated as if you really want a tourer there a bit small, if you want a sportsbike there not fast enougth, but as a day to day commuter there fantastic
Try see if you can get something with a maximum of 25k miles
Dont rush in they will be getting cheaper as the year goes on
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on September 25, 2012, 08:20:40 pm
There are some cracking deals out there on new at the moment as dealers are trying to shift last of 2012 stock. I test rode a few bikes last weekend (Honda CB, Suzuki GSR, Kawasaki Z750, Yamaha FZ800 and Fazer), all dealers were offering brilliant deals. The Fazer is a good bike if you are doing higher mileage and want some protection. The new one is an 800cc too (or 1,000 if you want the big one) and so its a good middle weight option. I ended up buying the FZ8 Naked model as I use it purely for fun but I was very impressed with the Fazer too...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 08:38:19 pm
While you were adding your message Lee, I found this: http://r.ebay.com/biLP8S (http://r.ebay.com/biLP8S)
It's cheap for the age/mileage, but it is under 25k, and it's at a Suzuki dealership in Lincoln. I'm wondering about going to see it, but it's a 3 hour round trip just driving it, and of course, I can't ride the bike on the road at the minute. They're selling it for approximately the value of a private sale in average condition from what I can tell.
I'm hugely torn - there's some nice looking Deauvilles out there, and some at very affordable prices to me. I don't want to risk missing out on a bike I want. Plus there's not that many Deauvilles out there in my price range, and I have been advised that a lot come on to the market at higher mileages.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 25, 2012, 08:48:47 pm
Yeah that looks like a nice bike, its the little bit of damage thats making it cheap, wont affect how it goes
Id say thats quiet a good deal
There are lots of high millage ones out there because used alot by couriors and bike taxi cause they have a very good reputation as being a reliable bike
And Shaft drive, dont think any other bike we talked about has that, that wil save you £100 a year and you dont have to get your hands dirty oiling it all the time
Be perfect for you i think
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 08:51:00 pm
Thanks Lee! Appreciate that. May well pop over tomorrow. May well be worth getting it tarted up as well at that price. Although if I do, I'll drop it the next day :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 25, 2012, 08:53:14 pm
Other thing they have is built in crash bungs, so if you do have a bit of a tumble hopfully not too much damage, heck i might get that one myself
Lol only kidding
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 08:56:04 pm
Crash bung?
Well, if you get there before me, it's yours! :) As will it be anyone else's as I won't get there 'til nearly lunchtime!
Wonder if they'd let me have a go in their car park or any other area. Mind you, I'd be too nervous to try!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 25, 2012, 09:04:37 pm
Cant see um letting you do that, no licence, no insurance
If you go for it rember to haggle
Dont think you would get much off price seems pretty well reduced in price, but maybe ask for em to throw in delivery to your place for free, that be a few quid
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 09:11:08 pm
I did think that there would be limited haggling!
I wonder if they'd ride it for me, at least I can observe and listen for any clunks and clanks that way.
As for any delivery etc, if I put my payment card on the desk and offer to take it there and then if they'll chuck in delivery, or maybe a large Givi box to go on the Givi plate... With one car I bought, I got them to stick a fresh MOT on it for signing the paperwork there and then. Best thing I did - had a couple of advisories they sorted out, otherwise it would have been in contravention of their claims on the bumpf :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 25, 2012, 09:46:05 pm
Think its not a bad deal as it is, so whatever you can get is a bonus
Really dealers like to sell mint bikes its the bit of damage thats making it cheap and there suzuki dealers, i very much doubt there will be anything worth worrying about with it
One thing you could do is get them to take you out on it go pillion take your lid and gloves with ya
They should have no problem doing that
When you get off try and stay calm dont seem to enthusiastic, the dealer will probably open it up Just say you want to see it go through all the gears, if it jumps out of gear walk away, that is serious money to fix and only thing i would worry about
I think its a very nice bike for the money
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 10:03:19 pm
Crikey! They came back to me a few minutes ago. Bike still there, he suggests coming armed with deposit, I had enquired about delivery, and they've replied £70+VAT.
Seen £1/mile advertised by others, so as it's 73 of them, I guess it isn't too unreasonable.
Shall see what bargaining there is to be done if I like it!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 25, 2012, 11:16:08 pm
Have a look around, the newest model is a 700cc not a 650. A bit expensive for that bike IMO. If your planning on doing some work on a bike look around. I picked up a yamaha thunderace for £500 with a hole in the engine ( new engine found cheaply! ) picked up a NTV 650 for £350 about 6 months ago, not the faired version but just a idea of what sort of deals are out there if your willing to travel/arrange for a courier to deliver
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2012, 11:21:51 pm
I did see an early NTV for peanuts oddly enough. Had a look at the 700s, and I've seen none in my price range. I'm not going to buy privately, this time at least, so a 700 is off the cards for now.
On the things prior to riding a bike - had a go at a different hazard perception DVD, and I've much improved my score from 60ish% to 80%. Hurrah! Happier about the test now. I'll see what my bike school have that can borrow for more practice.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 09:34:18 am
Dammit.
Just rang the dealership before I set off, and it appears it's not just scratched. The slight damage is a hole in the upper cowl, and it's cracked some of the inner bodywork, probably over £200 to fix. And this bike it right at the top end of my budget.
I'm back to thinking about the red one with 47k on it...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 26, 2012, 11:40:14 am
47k is high for a bike, BUT if its been looked after and has no nocks, rattles or smoke then should be good. Make sure you hear it run from cold as a warm bike can hide problems.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on September 26, 2012, 12:43:18 pm
Silly q but if you've not even passed your test yet what's the rush?
Surely be far better to wait until you have your license. That way you will be able to properly road test any you like. IMO that is vital when buying a bike. You do not get a true idea of its handling etc being a pillion...
Wish you the very best for your test(s)... I passed mine 5 years ago and best thing I ever did... Love my bike...
WBT
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 01:18:07 pm
I know exactly what you're saying WBT12, but I also don't want to miss out on the bikes that are in my price range. I'm sure there will be more, but new toys etc!
I still reckon I'll be bricking it when I take one out :)
Just seen a lovely ST as well, and I'm almost tempted if it wasn't for the insurance and fuel economy!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on September 26, 2012, 01:37:15 pm
They'll always be bikes around, trust me... And the fact that you are chopping and changing your mind on models there is a danger you may end up with a "looker" you love but one you hate to ride.
However, fully understand your eagerness and excitement as I bought my first bike before passing... Loved it but had I tried her first I would have soon realised her limitations and most likely wouldn't have bought her. I very quickly outgrew her and changed to my current girl...
Anyways, Happy hunting... *cheers*
WBT
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 01:53:06 pm
I'm set on the model, it's gonna be a Deauville, although if anyone has a suggestion, I do look it up and research the insurance, mpg, cost of luggage and approximate cost of bike for the age range I'll consider, but all my investigations come back to the Deauville because of all those factors.
I've only seen STs as they're usually parked next to the Deauvilles, and one guy yesterday insisted I compare them to prove that the Deauville was lighter!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 26, 2012, 02:08:55 pm
I think its a well educated decision and heck at the end of the day if you dont like it or can come up with a better suited choice you sell it
Think you have recieved some very good advise from everyone that has commented and you can see pretty much the same short list of bikes coming up
Have you got it yet lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 02:16:59 pm
Just been to see a Y reg with 41k on it, £1600, wasn't sure about the garage though. All the others I've seen are smarter and cleaner. I know appearances aren't everything either. Just stuck my head in on another place I passed sand they have some 2007/8 NTVs for around £5k, but bit too much for me at this stage. Heated grips though :)
I like the 2002 bike with 47k, and the place was nice enough too. Sounded better as well when they fired it up. The 2005 bike with the damage is still a possibility, if I want a damaged bike. The front cowl they reckoned was about £100. So that one would be, say, £2500 by the time I'd had it delivered and minted.
I'd do finance on a newer one if I thought I'd get it, but that would probably require FC insurance, which then adds to the cost.
So, Deauville, yes. Which one I've seen in my cash purchase range? Dunno.
Handling has been touched on, but I can't help thinking that what I'll be using a bike for, the straightline comfort is gonna be what I need most.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on September 26, 2012, 02:59:24 pm
Yamaha have a 0% interest campaign available at the moment on new models, £99 min deposit.......
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 26, 2012, 04:17:10 pm
if its on finance then usually you need a min of TPFT insurance.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 04:23:32 pm
Last time I financed a car, FC was required.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on September 26, 2012, 04:47:01 pm
Personally wouldn't want to buy something new without fc insurance
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 05:23:52 pm
Well, the kind of bike I'm looking at new is £7-9k, so I would FC that, but for £2k second hand, it's down to what the difference between FC and TPFT is. Based on the V-Strom, it's double the price for me at the minute. One I get NCD etc, I may consider otherwise.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 07:20:41 pm
So, the £1990 bike with 47k rocks out to £185 in insurance! That's cheaper than what I paid on my CG125 8 years ago!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 26, 2012, 07:47:07 pm
I know im repeating myself but i would advise a lower millage one for a few hundred pounds more
The shops will always say oh its not even run in when they trying to sell you it, different matter when your selling it
Seriously see if you can get one under 25K cause unless you know what your looking out you could be buying something thats really worn out
Dont get me wrong a 45K bike not might have much more wrong with it, but as i say its not the engines that wear out, its every other part of the bike, you could pay £250 for a rear shock and still have to have it fitted, i would not be suprised for a bike to be on 45K with original rear shock worn out with reduced damping, you probably would think thats how the bike handles and never really work out what was wrong with bike
Bikes can be quiet funny by way of a rear end suspension problem feels like something wrong with front end of bike and visa versa
Check out the price of replacement front brake seals, rebuilding brake calipers can cost hundreds of pounds and thats just through wear and tear being out in the elements
I dont think the 45K bike is cheap, its done nearly twice the millage as the one you said about on ebay but its not half the price, id say it should be closer to that
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 26, 2012, 08:03:57 pm
ive said this a few times.. look around!! i have lost count of how many bikes i have bought for under £1000 that have less than 15K on the clock.... infact, i bought a thundercat with 150 miles on the clock ( yup, old guy bought it and it scared him shitless ) paid £1500 for it. Look on bike trader, local paper, ebay, ask some smaller dealers as they tend to send higher mileage bikes to auction that you do get cheap!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 08:04:42 pm
Hmm, very much food for thought.
On the other side if it. If I'd spent nearly £9000 on a new Deauville, and after only 47k (5 years motoring for me), then I'd be miffed if it had needed much work to that point. I understand the whole wear and tear aspect, but from what you say a lot may need doing. I guess it also may not too.
Having looked at Deauvilles in this area +50m, that's as cheap as it gets from a dealer. The £1600 bike was a Y reg and also had 41k on the clock, and that's THE cheapest. Saw an '06 700 for £5k, also seen '07/'08 700s for £5k, undoubtedly, they're best value for money as they all had sub 10k on the clock.
The only bike left with sub 25k in the area that's also sub £2500 is the one with the damage to the fairing by the windscreen and the scuff to the pannier lid. Obviously both cosmetic, and Suzuki have just serviced it, so it has credentials.
I guess if I was taking on board all that has been said, that's the bike then. And it's blue, so my 4yo will be happy!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 26, 2012, 08:16:41 pm
I agree with lee,much better to get a lower mileage one even if it's got cosmetic damage. Much cheaper to repair that than replacement parts on a high miler.
As fr499y said you don't need to get it today as you can't use it yet. As soon as frost hits the groud in the next few weeks you'll have a lot more leverage with price and choice,plus you'll be able to test them yourself as you'll have your license.
My mate had a thunder ace in the garage unused for a year and sold it for peanuts when him and his misses had a baby and he needed cash quick,it happens all the time.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 08:45:16 pm
I guess. I've considered 3 of the best priced bikes post 2001 within 50 miles of here. Seen two in the flesh.
If I leave it, I'm worried I'll only see older/higher mileage bikes, or dearer bikes. This of course, could be the case, but also could be the opposite as you suggested.
Dunno. Itching to get one here and ready to roll :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 10:39:48 pm
I have decided that I will hold fire until I have passed my test! I blame you sensible people on here! :)
I have just looked at eBay on a national search (purely out of curiosity) and there are a total of 41 Honda Deauvilles for sale between the years 2001 and 2007. Didn't bother looking for newer, even '06 onwards isn't going to be below £3000, and I'm certainly not going to find a 700cc within my budget. Someone would have to be nuts to let a low miler go for next to nothing.
Anyway, of all those bikes, 24 of them are under 25k miles, but of those, only 5 are under 25k miles, inclusing private sales, and auctions to run. Total Deauvilles under £2500 between '01 and '07 is currently 14.
The strangest ad I saw stated that there were to be no viewings - you either wanted the bike or you didn't. Can't see that selling in a hurry somehow! Also used to have a clock in km, so an import I guess. If you're curious, have a look here (http://r.ebay.com/Fqj6nx).
So, I'm not trying to justify anything there, just a little exercise I did, and published the results. Be interesting to see what happens in 3 weeks. I think I will look nationally. Be a nice ride back on it from where ever I buy it from, and just plan what time of day to leave for the least traffic, and take it steady. I'm going to need to get used to motorway riding, so might as well make a start when I get it. I'm kinda hoping that the cosmetically damaged one is around then, might have more leverage on the price if it's been there a month or more! If not, hopefully a better priced, better miled one.
One question - Is it worth considering private, or stick to dealers for a first off?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 26, 2012, 11:03:23 pm
I prefer dealers so if there's a problem there's some peace of mind,though dealers will be a bit more expensive. I'm also a useless mechanic so I'm frightened of not spotting a heap until I get it home! Depends how handy you are with the spanners I suppose?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2012, 11:09:16 pm
I'm reasonably handy with spanners, and used to do services and other minor jobs on cars, but I know nothing about bike mechanics, and wouldn't know if there was an issue unless the bits were hanging off.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on September 27, 2012, 09:47:38 am
My first bike was done privately... But I'd agreed with the owner to cover his petrol/rail home (if I bought) to bring it to me to view. Fortunately my (now ex) Bro-in-law is into cars/bikes and knew a fair bit so gave it the once over. Wouldn't have done private without his extra knowledge.
2nd bike through a dealer. They normally don't sell them as cheap as she was so snapped it up. The dealer has a great rep in the town so felt totally at ease using them.
Any future bike would almost certainly be through dealer, just for that 3 month warranty and reassurance its in full working nick on collection.
Do feel you've made the right decision in waiting until the test is all sorted. Personally looking back I wished I'd had waited...
WBT
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on September 27, 2012, 10:03:54 am
If you havent got the will power to wait id go for the one at the suzuki dealer
If you wait and shop around in time you will find cheaper
Another thing to add to shopping list is a optimate battery charger, bikes have tiny batterys and doesnt take long for alarms to completly drain them
These chargers plug in to a connector you have to fit to bike and keep the bike on a slow charge whilst its not being used
Worth getting as batterys dont last long when they discharge completely, car chargers are normally to powerfull and fry you battery
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 27, 2012, 10:13:24 am
Now I'm tempted to drive to Lincoln again for a viewing! :)
I don't think the bike will be stood long enough to have battery drain, also, my garage doesn't have power and it's a heck of a cable run from the house, so I may need to look in to a jump pack if I do end up with flat battery. The other advantage I have is that I live at the top of a hill for a bump start!
Only once flattened the battery on my CG, can't remember how it happened though, but at least the one I had also had a kick start as well as the electric start. The later ones were just electric.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 27, 2012, 12:53:01 pm
I found a Deauville forum, so I thought I'd join, say hello, ask about bikes over 25k.
Copied the response from one member:
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Ignore the 25K advice as far as the Deauville is concerned. Many of us have far greater miles (mine's a mere 87K) with no significant issues. Read "Phil's Buying Guide" above then consider that a bike with a higher mileage has been used not left to rot and any little niggles would probably have been taken care of. Do ask specific questions here and also use the search facility. Lots of members in Yorkshire and surrounding areas who would be happy to assist you.
I had actually found the forum through Phil's buying guide, and Phil's buying guide is pretty good. Seems there's not a huge amount to worry about on the NTVs, which is good!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 29, 2012, 03:14:39 pm
OK, I just very nearly bought a '96 N Trophy 900 for £750...
Trade sale, so limited warranty. I may go back... :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 29, 2012, 11:50:29 pm
So, back to the main matter in hand of buying a practical bike (though I like the idea of a "weekend" bike), I have may well have found a nice Deauville through the owner's forum. Going to have a look on Monday morning, so if nothing else, I'll at least be formally introduced to one!
Will update once I've seen it! All the bike tests seemed so distant a few days ago. The theory test is on Friday, and I'm learning proper on the following Tuesday then Saturday, with tests on the Monday and Tuesday!!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 05, 2012, 12:45:48 pm
Theory test passed! Whoop!
Gas training on Tuesday!!
Still looking through Deauvilles on eBay. I'm wondering whether to do cheap to see if I like it and trade up next year, or just spend the extra and get a nice one with all the right bits on it already.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on October 05, 2012, 12:57:54 pm
Well done Lurch, pleased for you...
WBT
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 05, 2012, 01:00:16 pm
Thanks WBT12! I'm relieved! I was worried about the hazard perception bit, as I'd largely been scraping it on the practices, but managed 63/75 in the end, and got the equivalent of at least a pass on all clips which I'm pleased at.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 11, 2012, 12:55:40 am
Well, had my first gas training on Tuesday, all went very well. I found the 500 easier to ride than the 125, and by the end of the day, my instructor said that there was only a little polishing needed. I tend (in my car) to slow if I see a red light ahead, give it a chance to go green. He's been trying to get me out of that habit as on a bike, people may try to overtake you as you're on a narrower machine, so it's barrel up to the lights then stop.
Next out on Saturday, and they're going to take me to the test centre for Mod 1 practice on the Mod 1 course I'll actually be tested on.
Oh, managed to snap up a bargain! 1999, 40k, heated grips, and comes with the deep pannier lids.... :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on October 11, 2012, 06:28:33 am
Good stuff *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 11, 2012, 08:07:36 am
Shiny new toys! Pleased for you mate,I told you a bigger bike is easier to ride! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on October 11, 2012, 08:11:37 am
Now that looks very nice. Pleased for you...
WBT
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 11, 2012, 09:53:19 am
Shiny new toys! Pleased for you mate,I told you a bigger bike is easier to ride! *grin*
The riding in a straight line isn't any harder or easier, but it's a damn sight smoother than a tinny 125! The playground stuff, slalom, walking pace etc is where you really notice it.
Really liking that bike! Can't wait to get on her properly! Think I've landed well with it. I will be the third owner - the first was secretary of a motorcycle club and kept the bike absolutely spotless and it was serviced by Honda themselves, and when it didn't go to the Honda garage, it was then serviced by the same Honda mechanic. The chap I've bought it off is an enthusiast, and a more mature rider who has a love for bikes, and has maintained it the same way its original owner did.
The only blemishes are a scuff on the NS mirror, and a slight one on top of the left deep pannier lid which is pretty much where you'd kick it getting on the bike (the deep lids do get in the way a bit!). I'm going to get the little foot deflectors as there's a set on eBay, and if they stay cheap, I'll snap them up.
Currently feel like I'm about to come down with a sore throat and a cold. It can stay well out the way until I've finished bike training and testing. Snotty noses and helmets aren't the best combinations!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 11, 2012, 01:13:35 pm
that the 650 i take it? got the naked one which is a nice plodder
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 11, 2012, 02:20:09 pm
It is indeed the 650. The 700 didn't come out until about 2006. IIRC, the touring NTVs didn't come out until 1997.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 11, 2012, 02:57:12 pm
Yeah they done a 600cc NTV, 650 NTV then the Deauville 650 was the first mini tourer, & now there on the 700cc's :) Be interesting to see how the deauville compares to the naked NTV *cheers*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 11, 2012, 02:58:01 pm
If you're passing Leeds, or I pass yours, you're welcome to find out!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 12, 2012, 04:14:02 pm
Been on the phone to Just Motorcycle Insurance, division of Carole Nash, checking the Go Compare quote of £167. Turns out that is correct, and adding pillion cover was £8. Best price I've had by quite a bit. Also going to take out their breakdown and legal cover for £44 which is UK and Europe breakdown and puncture over including home start from the AA.
As they say: that'll do me!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 12, 2012, 08:48:07 pm
Tomorrow is Module 1 practice on the actual course at Wakefield. I wasn't worried or even thinking about what would happen if my foot went down, until I watched a couple of YouTube clips - I am now!! Serves me right for showing my daughter what I'd be doing on my test!
The full Mod 1 test is on Monday. Eep! I've only had 4 hours on a 500cc bike so far! They must have confidence in my abilities or they wouldn't have put me on a short course!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on October 13, 2012, 10:39:46 am
If it helps when I was doing my lessons I struggled big time with not putting my foot down. yet, come the test I did it perfectly... Sure you will be fine. let us know how you get on. And GOOD LUCK!
WBT
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 13, 2012, 11:09:49 am
Little bit of car park practice this morning then road riding. In the car park I decided to look at a cone as I was completing the U turn, and nearly hit it! Oops! Been OK since. Instructor v happy so far, so hopefully I'll keep it up!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 14, 2012, 08:50:11 pm
Early start tomorrow! My mod 1 test (for real!) is at 0845, there's another guy at LSM who's on at 0815, so we're heading over together. The instructor who's taking us over will be in just after 0630 to get the bikes out and check them as we need to leave at 0755 at the latest, and has offered us some last minute practice in their car park before we go. Might as well take advantage of that, and get a coffee in before we all head off.
Hope it goes as well as Saturday's practice did!
When I practiced on the real course, the instructor got me to ride round at a max of 20mph to get to know the course, and to carry out the exercises at 20mph too. He then suggested I could either work up the speed, or just go for the required 50km/h (32mph). I decided to go for it - didn't really get to look at the speedo, but the first attempt was 46km/h, at which I'd get a minor and the opportuinity to do it again. Next time was 50 on the nose, and the time after was 49, which might have got a minor, but they won't make you do it again for that. All other attempts apart from one were at 50-56km/h, so not bad at all. Finally nailed the not looking at where I was going, but ahead of it which made the later U-turns and fig 8 much easier and tidier.
Anyway, after the test tomorrow, we're having an extended run in for some road practice, and from that they'll decide what time they want me in for my mod 2 test on Friday. The test itself is at 1426 (odd time!). Currently they reckon get to the school at midday, but earlier won't be a problem if I want/need it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 14, 2012, 08:55:09 pm
Good luck,fingers crossed for you!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 14, 2012, 08:56:57 pm
Cheers! Best think of an early night I guess! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 15, 2012, 12:58:04 pm
Yay! Module 1 passed! Flying colours too! One minor for forgetting to observe before setting off, but that was nerves more than a bad habit!
Module 2 on Friday!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on October 15, 2012, 03:23:49 pm
Well done! Good luck Friday
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 15, 2012, 07:30:40 pm
well done mate! thats the hardest part done and dusted! *applause*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 15, 2012, 07:50:25 pm
Congratulations! Nearly there now. *cheers*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 15, 2012, 08:25:05 pm
Thanks all! As I was on a half day anyway, had a ride about for some Mod2 practice, only bit I'm majorly concerned about is the country roads on the national speed limit. One I did last week was ace, open the taps out the corner, knock it down for the corners, loved it. Today's was a different kettle of fish. Road repair upon road repair, wet and evidence of mud. The seams were pulling the bike about a bit, plus I'm overly cautious on slippery surfaces, so I slowed right down. Instructor had a chat with me saying I'd need to show better progress for the test, so I explained my concerns. She did explain that it's fine to keep the speed down, but do power the straights more and trust the bike over the rough, as I need to demonstrate I can ride that road and show that I know to open up for the straights and slow for the bends. She said it didn't overly matter what speed I did in the bends, as long as it was justifiable for the conditions, so I could have cornered as I did, and punching it once upright would have got me a minor for hesitation, rather than potentially a serious.
Rest of it I'm happy with, as long as I don't worry about it being an exam, and don't let it interfere with what I'd normally do, I should be OK, barring bravery on any rough 60 limits.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 15, 2012, 09:32:39 pm
remember one thing, ride how they want to see you ride, then when you pass your test, that's when you really learn to ride! exaggerate your lifesavers, they like to see you brake when slowing down ( to basically warn them your slowing down ) Stick to the middle of the lane and not to the side, and as you said, they like to see you ride for the conditions but keep to the limit ( i had fun with that when i did mine, lost the instructor down a national road but had to really slow an crank it over on a tight corner! )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 15, 2012, 09:56:55 pm
Good advice thanks!
The driving/riding test is all about demonstrating best practice and competence, I know I can do it all, it's just the added niggle in the back of your head that could do with going away to allow that bit of you to enjoy the ride/pay more attention!
Fingers crossed! I do need to exaggerate the life saver, today's top tip from the instructor (had a different one today as mine was off (but they're all really good))* was you don't need to always brake to slow, you can roll off, but just touch the brake lever to show the light as the switch kicks in instantly. Use whichever method of slowing down is the smoothest for you, but don't forget to pop that slowing light on!
*I found it useful having a different perspective on the riding, and a different style of tips.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 17, 2012, 10:35:30 pm
I'm turning my musings to insurance for the moment (makes a change :) )
I used Go Compare, despite the adverts, originally to get an idea on how much I'd pay for insurance. Anyway, after seeing the lowest quote of £167 TPFT for my bike, and the next nearest being around the £300 mark, I decided to call them to make sure, and indeed that was correct. The thing I hadn't ticked on GC was pillion use - turns out that was an extra £8, so I added it.
I was also astonished to find that as standard, European cover is included for up to 90 days - PER TRIP! Unlimited trips. Car insurance sucks! They also offered me breakdown and legal, turns out these separately are £35 and £20, and combined they were £44. I decided to take it as I wanted breakdown anyway. The breakdown is through the AA and comprises of roadside assistance, puncture assistance, natiional relay, home start, plus full european cover. My car breakdown through my insurers sucks!
So, not long until the Mod 2. Found a couple of YouTube videos with helpful tips. Nothing new, but a differnt point of view and good reminders. I need to exaggerate looking at crossroads and junctions. Spotted an my mod1 examiner doing that at a cross roads, and my instructor told me that was for the benefit of me and Jimi who was out with me.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 18, 2012, 09:08:31 pm
I've decided to eat a banana before I set off - apparently there's a chemical (begins with T, forgotten now) that can help release Seratonin, and in turn makes you feel good and more relaxed. May be a load off bull, but it's a tasty snack if all else fails :)
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on October 18, 2012, 09:10:10 pm
Test tomorrow?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 18, 2012, 09:15:28 pm
Yup. 2.26pm, got a ride round beforehand. Getting to LSM at midday, go for a couple of laps of the car park and a wiggle up some cones, head out the gate and hit Wakefield. Well, that's usually what happens. I say usually, I've only left there 3 times on a 500!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on October 18, 2012, 09:18:45 pm
Good luck, remember, big lifesavers, ride for yourself and to the speed limits where possible, relax and most of all, enjoy.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on October 18, 2012, 09:20:27 pm
Good luck for tomorrow Damo!!Just relax and ride and if you make any mistakes carry on as if nothing has happened.On my test my ear piece came out as I pulled off so I just pulled over and put it back in and on the hill start I stalled setting off and instead off putting the bike in neutral and starting it I just dumped the clutch,started it and set off.The examiner commented on it but said I was in total control and passed me.As long as you can prove you can control the bike and ride safely you will be fine *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 18, 2012, 09:34:55 pm
Just my personal experience but the bike examiners are a lot less uptight than the ones doing car tests. It's more about making quick,safe progress than nitpicking each point. They like to see lifesavers so exaggerate safety checks.
On my test (granted a long time ago) the examiner dropped back after I had done the basic tests and I actually lost him at one point. Just as I was returning to the test centre I needed the right hand lane and some twat decided to nail it in the other lane,pulled level with me and then called me into the lane. I didn't fancy missing the turn and having to go around as i knew he had other tests to do after me so I signalled,gave a massive safety check and nailed it to get ahead into the lane. I thought i'd failed at the last 2minutes of the test and was gutted when I pulled in.
The examiner had seen what was going on and asked me my thoughts. I explained my actions and he told me I'd done the right thing. He was happy I'd done the massive safety check and didn't dither once I'd made the descision to go. As long as your riding well and aware of other traffic around you they will value that over minor faults.
Good luck,you can do it!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 18, 2012, 09:47:42 pm
Thanks everyone!
I have confidence in the car, a bike isn't that different in that respect. I shall ensure lifesavers and shoulder checks are exaggerated so they get seen, as will I ensure I cover the brake lever to show a lights when slowing, as I got told off for just rolling off on Monday!
I can't think of any major reason I'd fail offhand, and I just need to carry that with me. And also remember the exaggerated procedure for unmarked crossroads!
I'll let you all know how it goes around tea-time tomorrow!
Thanks again!
Damo
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on October 18, 2012, 11:13:34 pm
If you fancy a ride out after you've passed give me a shout *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 18, 2012, 11:16:29 pm
Could do! Don't be expecting me to do knee down on a low exhaust tourer with mahoosive pannier lids though :)
The pannier lids in the photo are the standard ones - it has the extra deep ones on it - I'll post a pic once I've got it!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 18, 2012, 11:24:03 pm
I know what I wanted to ask.
Bike audio - looking for something for handsfree, sat nav audio (when I get a better sat nav than the mistake I have) and bike to bike/car audio, if there is a "standard". Also not wanting to spend masses either. What should be I be looking for? Don't mind spending a little more on comfortable earpieces. How do mouthpieces/mics work/fit? There's not a right lof of room between my my mouth and the lid.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on October 18, 2012, 11:33:02 pm
I don't cane it anymore,Living in Bradford every corner you take there is always the chance there will be 3 cars parked across the road talking to each other,a car coming round the corner on your side of the road or some one doing a 3 point turn/u-turn for no apparent reason!The last time I went to work on the bike I didn't get out of third gear.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 18, 2012, 11:36:29 pm
Last time I went through Bradford was to Bingley and Manningham lane was full of HM Treasury's yellow piggy banks.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on October 19, 2012, 03:35:16 pm
Hows Mod2 Go
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 19, 2012, 04:50:15 pm
Badly. Failed :(
Got a serious for undue hesitation. We were in a queue for a junction before a roundabout, and I didn't know where the right lane went, and as it wasn;t really being used, I decided that it went right somewhere, so I stayed put. Turns out I could have used it. Got another when I stalled it, and took the time to select neutral, examiner said I should have pulled the clutch in and fired it up and got going quicker.
Fair enough comments I guess. Really disappointed. I've not stalled on a 500 before, and the last time I stalled was on a 125, but it was at the lights, plus on the CGs, you need to go to neutral first.
Couple of minors, one for position, he would have liked me a little further left on a country road, but he said it was more a point to note than anything else.
Nice guy though - just not nice enough :)
Rebooked for the 6th November.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on October 19, 2012, 05:31:08 pm
Chin up, next time mate, I passed my test on 6th nov 6 years ago, it's a good day to take a test...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on October 19, 2012, 05:43:02 pm
So 2 serious faults one for undue hesitation (stalling) and one for the roundabout, was it marked as Positioning normal driving or response to road markings?
The stalling is fair enough if you've made people wait, not going into the right lane to go straight at a roundabout seems a little harsh
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 19, 2012, 06:07:35 pm
Hopefully that's a good omen. Had 2 goes at my driving test too, back in '93.
I'm with you, Paul, on the stall/recovery. I personally think it's a bit harsh being able to be failed on taking the slow/queuing lane if I'm not holding anyone up but myself. I personally think that should be a minor only which can contribute to the totting up of minors leading to a fail, as it would then demonstrate an all-round potential need for more training.
I'm amazed I didn't get more minors (got 3) as I didn't ride anywhere near as well as I normally do.
Still, live and learn, onwards and upwards etc!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on October 19, 2012, 06:42:45 pm
It's all experience buddy.Stiff upper lip and all that,what what.Do you do your training around the test route?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on October 19, 2012, 06:45:41 pm
Oh well never mind youll get it next time
Yeah he is is right with the restarting, Front break pulled in, Clutch in and start, Just keep stamping down down down and you be in first at some point, Gears change better when engine running
Surprised about the right lane on a round about or was there just two lanes to the round about
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 19, 2012, 06:53:55 pm
It was at the junction just prior to the roundabout. I didn't know/notice the right lane was available for continuing.
I was exercising my right to not rush while not affecting anyone :)
I was in first when I stalled as I'd been stationary and stalled while pulling off. Now quite enough right hand I think, or maybe I was over-covering the back brake. It was on an incline.
I've done most of my training around Wakefield and been on most of the test routes, but not necessarily as a complete run. Didn't recognise the first bit of today's, but the rest seemed mostly familiar. I've been past where I got the hesitation before, but it has always been clear when I passed, and I'm crap at remembering. Particularly as a lot of areas look so similar to me! Won't be forgetting the approach to that viaduct any more though! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 19, 2012, 08:39:54 pm
Aw sorry it didn't go so well. Never mind,get that re test done now whilst it's all fresh in your mind,not too long to wait.
That does seem a bit harsh about the roundabout lane. Next time pin it in the outside lane,knee down whilst forking all the car drivers in the first lane. On second thoughts don't do that.....
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 19, 2012, 08:53:22 pm
Haha!
Can't do retests for 10 working days, and combined with when I'm away, that puts my retest on the 6th, s that's two and a half weeks, so not so far away.
I won't be forgetting today in a hurry anyway!
Title: Re: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on October 20, 2012, 09:57:35 am
Bike audio - looking for something for handsfree, sat nav audio (when I get a better sat nav than the mistake I have) and bike to bike/car audio, if there is a "standard". Also not wanting to spend masses either. What should be I be looking for? Don't mind spending a little more on comfortable earpieces. How do mouthpieces/mics work/fit? There's not a right lof of room between my my mouth and the lid.
I bought an Albrecht AE600 S off ebay as they were less than £100 and had good reviews. Never used it so you can have it for £60 delivered if you like?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on October 20, 2012, 09:58:44 am
Here you go
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 20, 2012, 10:11:11 am
Cool! They look good, and Ride magazine liked them too! Not sure how the connect to phones, I assume it works on the 4 pole jack system rather than that famous pirate with the fancy coloured teeth!
Might come down and get it once I've got the bike, somewhere else to ride it to then :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 20, 2012, 10:35:36 pm
Well, I'm over the disappointment of failing, and know how to rectify the mistakes. So onwards and upwards!
Little sad I couldn't pick up the Deauville today, but the guy I'm buying it off is cool with waiting for me to pass! :) He also told me to not worry about when I picked it up, just concentrate on getting the pass, he doesn't need the bike gone by any date. Pretty nice guy, glad I bought it from someone like him.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on October 22, 2012, 09:35:56 am
Sorry to hear you didn't pass. Still, the experience will help you going forward. Fingers crossed for the retake.
As for your bike is it not possible for the seller to bring it to you so its there ready for when you can use it?
WBT
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 22, 2012, 09:41:56 am
I'm sure I'd have been wondering if I'd fluked it if I'd passed :)
I probably could ask the seller to bring it to me with the offer of getting him back, but he's a nice guy, and I don't want to take advantage of his good nature. He's happy to keep it there, and I can collect it any weekend after I pass, and as I'm not reliant on it, then it's OK I guess.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on October 22, 2012, 10:20:00 am
Where is the bike Damo? I'm insured to ride any bike.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 22, 2012, 04:02:50 pm
The bike is in Leigh, just this side of Wigan, about an hour in the car. Just been to Cheshire, and it wouldn't have been much fun coming back in the fog like today!
It's very kind of you to offer Andy, I'd love the bike here sooner rather than later, but it would be a 2+ hour round trip, notwithstanding Denis having a chat before leaving, and I don't want to intrude on your free time.
Damo
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 22, 2012, 08:09:28 pm
My learner bike! Took a pic for my litt'l'un, thought I'd post of for posterity.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 22, 2012, 09:21:55 pm
had one of them for a few days whilst my old KTM 950SM was in for some work ( more like trying to get the stupid bag of s**t to work? ) good little learner bikes :D Sorry to hear you didn't pass but as you said, onwards and upwards!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 22, 2012, 09:28:51 pm
It was odd going to that from the CG - the pegs are way back on that compared to the 125! Because I have longish arms, I think it put me more upright, so the pegs seemed further back than they would have done if I was leaning further forward. Still, didn't take too long to adjust!
Found a pic of my old 125! Still remember the reg - YC51 GOH. Paid £1095 for it in 2004.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on October 23, 2012, 06:32:20 am
Yeah I remember going from a CG125 to a GS500 on my direct access. My legs and arms used to cramp as I wasn't used to the slightly different riding position. It felt like a real big bike too, Aah happy days. I loved learning to ride
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 23, 2012, 02:34:45 pm
Great isn't it! I remember cacking myself when I picked that 125 up - suddenly realised there was no-one watching my back anymore! Wonder if I'll feel that after my test?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on October 24, 2012, 04:16:00 pm
I remeber going home after my bike test, I had taken a Yamaha DT50 to the instruction place on L Plates, It was a heap
On route home full of excitement after passing test, wringing the neck out of this little bike a van was approaching me on opposite side of road, he was just approaching a Junction on his side of the road, he was not going fast at all
A young girl maybe 7 years old was standing at that junction, i can almost remeber it in slow motion, she ran out looking wrong way straight into the path of this van, he didnt have any time to brake until after he hit her
Sort of nocked wind out of my sails
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 24, 2012, 04:34:00 pm
Oh no :(
Do you know what the outcome was?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 24, 2012, 06:29:05 pm
Where is the bike Damo? I'm insured to ride any bike.
This has suddenly become quite academic. They won't start my policy until I have my licence, so I'll leave it there as it is still on the seller's multi-bike policy!
Boo!!!
Thanks Andy, appreciate the offer.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on November 05, 2012, 04:38:20 pm
Good luck tomorrow!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 05, 2012, 04:44:12 pm
Thank you!
I now know what to do in a stall, and I know to take the right hand lane to pass traffic at a junction! Apparently I can go the wrong way and not be failed for it, as long as I do it safely :)
They give rain tomorrow, so will have to be extra vigilant for non-tarmac on corners and on the 60mph country lane they will send me on!
Shall update as soon as I can after the test. May not be until tea time though.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on November 05, 2012, 04:52:09 pm
Yeah if you find yourself in a left or right turn only lane, just go the way the lane says. You've not driven incorrectly, just not gone where they want so they can't mark you down.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 05, 2012, 04:56:49 pm
I'll not risk annoying the examiner by doing it deliberately eh? :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 06, 2012, 02:46:22 pm
:censored2:
Went to pieces and stopped in a dumb place when he asked me to stop after I lost him. Too near a junction.
I just don't know why I ride so differently under exam conditions. How hard can it be to ride the same all the time?!
Crap weather too, heavy gusts and rain, but that wasn't an issue at all, just me. Need to forget about the examiner and get on with it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 06, 2012, 07:43:19 pm
Still very peeved at how I ride on test. In my own "in my head" marking system, I don't score myself very well on the test, but I thought the warm-up was a good 8 or 9/10, as opposed to what was probably, in my mind, somewhere around a 4. This morning before I got there, I probably rode better than I normally drive my car, superb progress, good anticipation, good observation, the lot.
I just don't know how to get my mind out of worrying about the examiner and on to just riding the bike like I know I can.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Mr Grumpy on November 06, 2012, 07:47:39 pm
Just your trainer do "exam lessons" with you? That's treating the whole lesson like it was a test.
It was very good practise for Mrs Grumpy who had a big "thing" about U-turns.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 06, 2012, 07:53:36 pm
Never had a mock, no, but that sort of thing wouldn't work on me. My instructor doesn;t mess about, if I make a mistake, he pulls me up on it in no uncertain terms, so I should really be more concerned if he does pass comment.
I'm fine until I walk out the test centre with the examiner. Start getting nervous on the show me/tell me stuff which I know off pat.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on November 06, 2012, 07:59:20 pm
Main thing I tell my pupils is to control their breathing. Slow deep breaths and concentrate on the next few moments. Forget everything else
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 06, 2012, 08:00:46 pm
Very true, I shall try to carry that with me next time!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 06, 2012, 09:20:59 pm
I've also heard to ride like you don't care. I think I know what it means, and certainly it's not to be taken literally!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 14, 2012, 01:06:04 pm
So I got a provisional date of the 6th Dec through as a next available for my test. Then 2 days later, a chunk of work I couldn't refuse came in, so I'm now going for it on the 19th Dec. Let's hope that because of the job I'll have done (nice peachy 2 week contract) and that the season of goodwill will be upon us, that it's gonna be a very good day!
Did have one suggestion for relaxing - have half a pint first. Not sure on the day you're meant to demonstrate good practice that the suggestion is that suitable really!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 15, 2012, 04:21:41 pm
good luck :) Some times its better to take it on a shit day. Can get away with driving cautious due to the condition etc :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 15, 2012, 04:25:04 pm
There is that to it, so here's hoping for torrential rain, strong winds and midday fog :) It was raining a little bit last time, but not much. Bit gusty, but again, not enough to bother anyone.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: justjon on November 15, 2012, 05:51:47 pm
All the best for your next test, i'll keep everything crossed for you *grin* I'd been using a 125 to commute as my Impreza track/road car does less than 10 mpg and was killing my wallet on fuel costs and the bike was returning 10 x that, But it got real boring on such a slow machine. Hence my decision to get something a bit more fun.
Dunno if it'll help, but this is how I passed my test a little while ago...
Even before booking the theory & Mods 1,2 I went out and bought a Gixxer 600 and parked it in my bedroom, the idea behind this was that the last thing i'd see at night and the first thing i'd see in the morning was the bike and this would motivate me to pass 1st time. Next was the practical tests and I adopted the "I don't give a shit" if I pass or fail attitude and just pretended the examiner was a good mate who was chatting to me over the intercom (this made me feel a LOT more relaxed). I guess being relaxed and calm helps an awful lot, it certainly helped me. Luckily enough I passed with only 2 minors.
If you think I was joking about having a bike in my bedroom...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 15, 2012, 06:01:39 pm
I've bought mine, but it's being delivered in the next few weeks. I reckon if I get my first examiner I'll be more relaxed, he's a really nice guy and was quite light hearted, #2 was more like a policeman, when he was explaining the independent ride, I was waiting for the paragraph and section number of the DSA guidelines!
Thanks for the tips, proof in the pudding in a few weeks!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: justjon on November 15, 2012, 06:08:19 pm
For what its worth, don't worry about which examiner you get, they've both got the same rules to follow. Just do your own thing and concentrate on riding and not on who's marking you. Once again, good luck :-)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 15, 2012, 06:13:11 pm
I don't think one is fairer than the other, just that I feel more relaxed around the first one. However, as I mentioned, I passed my mod 1 with the formal guy, so I know I can get some sort of pass with him :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 16, 2012, 11:43:23 am
nice RSV! i've just traded my z1000 in for a ducati *blink* i'm either mad or completely stupid
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on November 16, 2012, 04:36:21 pm
Bike show soon *applause*
Has anyone seen the new triumph yet?I'll be throwing my leg over it and pretending it's mine.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 16, 2012, 05:12:28 pm
The 1200 adventure thing? Sprint or Tiger? If it's that, I want one.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: justjon on November 16, 2012, 06:58:48 pm
nice RSV! i've just traded my z1000 in for a ducati *blink* i'm either mad or completely stupid
Neither *grin* You really can't beat a big v-twin for some serious giggles and the occasional wheelie. I'd never go back to a IL4, just not enough torque. What Duke did you get? Pics please *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on November 16, 2012, 07:23:22 pm
Just come accross this thread. Tried to skim read through the 13 pages lol but it's cool there's a good few two wheeled enthusiasts on here including me :) Hope the OP passes next time round, I'm sure you'll be better off having one mod 2 under your belt. Here's my current steed, an SV650s sport. It's a cracking entry level 'big bike' and cheap to run and insure too. V-twin torque and various suspension mods etc ensures it keeps up with the bigger boys through the twisties too *grin* [attach=1] My next bike is gonna be a street triple R hopefully this spring. The wife wants me to get the Sprint ST 1050 for better pillion riding but I'm resisting that for another year or two.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 18, 2012, 07:16:47 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/336961_10151552302533787_1079036421_o.jpg) My old SV650, full mivv gp exhaust without baffle sounded lovely :D
Traded my z1000 in for a Ducati Monster S2R 1000 Capirossi limited edition with pretty much every carbon after market part you can get for it thrown on!
This is what my zed looked like before i traded it! ( picking Ducati up on wed! )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 18, 2012, 09:45:57 pm
Love the frame left exposed.
Have to say, Italians know how to style stuff, but if anything like my Alfa, the rest of it was secondary :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on November 18, 2012, 10:06:23 pm
I know its controversial, but I really don't like any ducati's
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on November 18, 2012, 10:08:13 pm
How so? You mean to ride or just aesthetically?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on November 18, 2012, 10:39:50 pm
Aesthetically mainly, can't see the obsession
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on November 18, 2012, 11:19:53 pm
Fair enough. I have to say I generally like the styling but would probably be put off by their 'quirks'. I've heard many a story of them spending more time in bits than running. As a teenager my bedroom walls were plastered with pictures of Carl fogarty on his world Superbikes Ducati 916 :) I stick by the rule of never meeting your hero as more often than not they cannot live up to your perception of them. So I guess I'll never own one ;)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 19, 2012, 10:14:53 am
The newer ducati's were a lot better with reliability. Only thing with this is keeping on top of the servicing ( whihc a jap bike you can leave it a few thousand without probs! ) The belts need changing every 2 years, even if its been sitting doing naff all. But hey, if you buy a ducati then you know what ya letting ya self in for! Mind you, had a KTM 950SM that was a bag of shit, nothing but problems. I think the furthest i got on that on one ride without having a problem was 5 miles? Would cut off if you stopped, Fuel pump flooded the engine so it would go with a hell of a bang ( FMF pipes and no baffles ) Jetting was a twat, either too lean or too rich, couldnt get a happy medium ( well in the end left slightly rich ).
Yeah ducati are a looker more than a rider, not the smoothest of V-twins either! but hey, only live once *grin* Don't know how fun it will be compared to my Triumph Thruxton though! Now thats a bag of laughs
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on November 19, 2012, 12:37:17 pm
The ducatis are nothing like a japanise bike to ride very very differnt, i had a 600 monster years ago and it was boring, the frame and suspension was fantastic but being only 600 you never really felt you was on the ragged edge despite being flat out in top cranked right over, i bought it because it sounded fantastic and looked good
I later bought a 748 Ducati based on the looks and sound again, i liked it as i say very different to a jap bike, these bikes are race bikes really with lights on, the pegs are really high as standard and lots of weight over front end, you could wheelie it, but took some cunning clutch skill to do it but it would always land very hard that decided this bike didnt really like it so not really something to show off on, but i really liked the bike but felt it was underpowered, there was a part of the rev range where the whole sound of the enginge altered and if pushed through this point it was like sitting on a rocket, it was a very fun bike not very confortable for long distance but sounded and went lovely, i had to sll the bike 6 years ago when i started my buisness, really didnt want to but needed the money, i really wanted a 916 anyway, well thats how i dealt with it in my mind anyway
A few years ago in a moment of madness i see a 998 Advertised locally with lots of carbon extras and a blueprinted engine anyway i had to have it, very nice bike barley ridden the thing, last time i went out it started running on one cyclinder, ive changed plugs, swapped coils over cant get it to run right, its been dead in my factory looking very sad with all its panels off for a few months now, when i get time ill see if i can get to the bottom of it, i suspect valve clearance issues
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 19, 2012, 02:22:40 pm
There not called the ferrari of the bike world for no reason hehe. The monster 1000 is supposed to an awesome bike though. Was going to buy a new 6 monster but glad i didn't. The monster 1000 uses a desmo engine so should be pretty good *applause*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Lee F on November 19, 2012, 02:55:07 pm
I should imagine it will be lots of fun
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on November 19, 2012, 07:59:50 pm
I loved the look of the ducati single sided swing arm,soo nice!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 19, 2012, 08:39:27 pm
had a VFR800 Vtec, that had a single swinger as well! Cracking bike for sports touring as well!! ( if you can get used to the v-tec ) Anywhoo sorry to thread jack! Good luck when you retake it and let us all know how it goes!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 20, 2012, 02:01:22 pm
It's a motorbike thread! So fill with bike talk, it only opened with my DAS. Thanks for the good luck! Shall see what gives!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 20, 2012, 04:12:46 pm
fair enough *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on November 26, 2012, 09:29:36 pm
Whens your retake bud?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 26, 2012, 10:40:45 pm
19th. Was gonna be the 6th, but I'm off working then, couldn't afford to say no, peachy little job too. You coming to wave banners of support outside the test centre? :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 06, 2012, 11:50:58 am
I now have posession of my bike!!!
Now to get posession of a licence! Hopefully knowing it's calling me from the garage will be a good incentive!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 06, 2012, 08:17:24 pm
Now to get posession of a licence! Hopefully knowing it's calling me from the garage will be a good incentive!
Nice one! update with a pic? Shame it's so flippin' cold at the moment. I've been restricted to the cage for commuting for the last week or two :(
Good luck for the big day!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 06, 2012, 08:23:26 pm
Looks like the pic earlier in the thread! :) I'm currently away at the minute, but had a day off nearish home, so popped back to receive the bike. When I'm back I'm going to give it a good clean and polish, then I'll post pics. Got some good stuff for bringing up black plastics. Should be mint!
Thanks for the good luck! Just under 2 weeks away now!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 06, 2012, 10:11:03 pm
good to hear :D my ducati is plastered in salt and general road crap! today was the first day of non riding ( Black ice, too much to risk )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 06, 2012, 10:32:06 pm
There was little icy bits around my area at midday today, wouldn't have risked it even with a licence!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on December 06, 2012, 10:44:55 pm
I have been using Dunlop for years both on a race bike and road bike I am now thinking of moving to Michelin road 3 they look very impressive for this time of the year. Is there many from here using Michelin ? What do you think of them compared to Dunlop
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 06, 2012, 10:51:04 pm
I've heard wet grip is phenomenal with the pr3's and dry not too bad either. Lot of people say they squirm a lot under heavy braking though due to the deep cut of the tread. Also heard they are very sensitive to slight change in pressure and you really need to keep a close eye on the psi you run as a slight drop will really notice in the way the bike handles. I hate the tread pattern on the front too but that's just me :) Personally I'm gonna try a set of roadsmart 2's next. Wet grip is meant to be close to the pr3 but dry grip is reportedly better.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on December 06, 2012, 11:28:18 pm
How about these ? MAXXIS SUPERMAXX DIAMOND REAR SPORT TOURING TYRE. Heard of a few using them on a zx6r and zx9r but not on a 1000cc bike
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 06, 2012, 11:32:29 pm
Hmm dunno about those. Tbh very few of the bikers I know use maxxis. Not saying its cause they're bad, just don't hear much about 'em. I'm waiting to hear some first hand feedback on the new metzler z8's soon too. Press reports are good but you can't always believe that stuff cause they have advertisers to please etc.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on December 07, 2012, 12:19:41 am
The other tyre I had on my mind was one from America Dunlop d616 they look like a pure rain tyre the only problem is its to expensive for shipping. Is there many people here with supermoto or bikes that suit this weather and the icy roads.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 07, 2012, 12:18:24 pm
I've used loads of tyres
Dunlop sportmax d220 = shockingly bad on a SV650, so much that you could slide the rear in the heat! scary to ride in the wet, very flat profile to these tyres.
Dunlop sportmax D207 = went through 2 sets on a xjr 400 in a year, grippy tyres but don't think there made anymore!
Dunlop sportmax D208 = wet weather grip is good but not as good as the D207, but the dry weather grip was brilliant!
Dunlop sportmax Qualifier RR = Again brilliant dry weather grip, not bad in the wet but a bit more sporty tyre, rounder profile.
Bridgestone BT020 = Old tyre now, but a cracking tyre, brilliant all rounder tyre for medium/big bikes.
Bridgestone BT021 = replaced the 20's with the 21 but are possibly the worse tyres they have made. Lovely profile till you've done about 1000 miles. Front goes triangle, back square! Replaced with BT023 which im yet to try.
Avon VP2 Supersport = My favourite tyre of all time, replaced by the Ultra 3D. The supersport is a awesome soft tyre, lovely profile thats not too round but sticks like :censored2: Wet weather grip is good but not the best ( well it is a sports soft tyre after all! )
Avon Storm II Ultra = Brilliant wet weather grip, brilliant dry weather grip flatter profile and come up around 5-6mm wider ( 190 came out at 195 on my z1000 ) Good miles to these tyres, dual compound so they dont wear down fast like others. These matched with a VP2 SS front make a awesome pair of all weather tyres!
Metzeler M1 = Very sporty tyre profile, nice big cuts which provide good wet weather grip and awesome dry weather grip. Sticky tyre, cheap tyre and last for some time. ON par, if not better than the Z8's.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on December 09, 2012, 07:05:59 pm
Dunlop sportmax d220 = shockingly bad on a SV650, so much that you could slide the rear in the heat! scary to ride in the wet, very flat profile to these tyres.
Dunlop sportmax D207 = went through 2 sets on a xjr 400 in a year, grippy tyres but don't think there made anymore!
Dunlop sportmax D208 = wet weather grip is good but not as good as the D207, but the dry weather grip was brilliant!
Dunlop sportmax Qualifier RR = Again brilliant dry weather grip, not bad in the wet but a bit more sporty tyre, rounder profile.
Bridgestone BT020 = Old tyre now, but a cracking tyre, brilliant all rounder tyre for medium/big bikes.
Bridgestone BT021 = replaced the 20's with the 21 but are possibly the worse tyres they have made. Lovely profile till you've done about 1000 miles. Front goes triangle, back square! Replaced with BT023 which im yet to try.
Avon VP2 Supersport = My favourite tyre of all time, replaced by the Ultra 3D. The supersport is a awesome soft tyre, lovely profile thats not too round but sticks like :censored2: Wet weather grip is good but not the best ( well it is a sports soft tyre after all! )
Avon Storm II Ultra = Brilliant wet weather grip, brilliant dry weather grip flatter profile and come up around 5-6mm wider ( 190 came out at 195 on my z1000 ) Good miles to these tyres, dual compound so they dont wear down fast like others. These matched with a VP2 SS front make a awesome pair of all weather tyres!
Metzeler M1 = Very sporty tyre profile, nice big cuts which provide good wet weather grip and awesome dry weather grip. Sticky tyre, cheap tyre and last for some time. ON par, if not better than the Z8's.
*applause* thanks for the info i take it you like Dunlop i had two sets of dunlop 208 rr on the track bike and 208 on my road bike they dont make them anymore if there was some that you know of please let me know ? i get another set.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 10, 2012, 12:47:52 pm
Don't know tbf. There is always the Sportmax Qualifier II or the Sportmax SportSmart's. got a set of Pirelli Diablo Corsa III on my Ducati at the moment. They stick well but only done 100 or so miles.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 18, 2012, 09:30:35 pm
Just about to get out the bike gear and check my visor is nice and clean!
Big day #3 tomorrow!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Mr Grumpy on December 18, 2012, 09:37:42 pm
*good_luck*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on December 18, 2012, 09:54:05 pm
Good luck!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 18, 2012, 10:11:18 pm
Thank you all! I shall report back tomorrow tea time!
I've just been working with an ex-bike examiner, and he took the time to reassure me, and gave me a true insight in to the mindset of the examiner, and I am way more relaxed about this test than the last one.
The best bit of advice he gave me was this: Don't worry if you think you cocked up and it may have got you a fail, because if you have failed, there's f-all you can do about it. Bear in mind that the examiner may not be able to see half of what you're doing anyway, plus if you have an excellent ride otherwise, they may over look that once fault if they did see it.
Wise words! I'm not just relaxed, I'm looking forward to it!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on December 18, 2012, 10:13:03 pm
Good luck man- stay chilled and enjoy it!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on December 18, 2012, 10:32:08 pm
Fingers crossed for you!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: oxo77 on December 19, 2012, 01:23:36 am
God luck mate, I need to do mine so I can borrow the demos from the bike section at work :-D
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 01:33:20 am
Thanks again everyone!
Oxo - rules change from 19th Jan, though if you're over 24 think you can still do DA. it's on direct.gov anyway. Where do you work, and what demos can I try!! *grin*
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: oxo77 on December 19, 2012, 01:36:58 am
I work for BMW MINI and we have a Motorad dept :-D
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Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 01:39:38 am
Don't BMW make that covered bike? Do like the BMW tourers though.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: oxo77 on December 19, 2012, 01:44:03 am
Never seen one?, they do make a 600cc moped that's a bit of fun though lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 19, 2012, 04:50:15 am
Good luck for the test!!!!!!
Fingers crossed for you.
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Post by: fr499y on December 19, 2012, 01:50:21 pm
good luck mate! and um the BMW C1 was axed years back!! *blink*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 03:07:58 pm
*wave* *bounce* *dude*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 03:08:24 pm
Oh, I passed! Did you guess from the last post? *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 19, 2012, 03:17:25 pm
shweet!! when ya getting ya bike then? *applause*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 03:19:57 pm
Already got it!! Bought it before the first test, and it was delivered here 2 weeks ago. Honda Deauville, NTV650. Pic of it a few pages back. Will sort another when I get it out tomorrow!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 19, 2012, 03:30:35 pm
Cool. I've been on our NTV for the past few weeks because of the weather and salt. They go pretty damn well so i'm sure you will love the bike when you get to ride it *applause*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 03:32:01 pm
Be tomorrow hopefully! Need to do the 4' as well!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Mr Grumpy on December 19, 2012, 04:18:33 pm
Congratulations! *applause*
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Post by: Critch on December 19, 2012, 04:31:19 pm
Yeh nice one, good choice on the duv, :21:
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 04:46:01 pm
Thank you all!!
Got to ride back on the motorway today too! Sadly the other chap was on a 125 so he struggled past 60mph, so never managed the full beans!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on December 19, 2012, 04:52:23 pm
Oh, I passed! Did you guess from the last post? *grin*
Great news all you need now is some good weather
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 05:06:33 pm
Good weather?! It's not bad weather now! As long as there's no ice and snow, the bike will be my primary mode of transport! Car will be for severe weather, shopping and carting the sprog and Mrs Lurch about!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on December 19, 2012, 05:18:29 pm
Yaay congratulations!
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: oxo77 on December 19, 2012, 05:23:51 pm
Congrats mate, well done *applause*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 19, 2012, 05:25:09 pm
Thank you Paul and Ian!
Shall head for Sheffield after Xmas, I hear there's a comms set going! :)
Title: Re: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on December 19, 2012, 05:38:07 pm
Shall head for Sheffield after Xmas, I hear there's a comms set going! :)
Yea there is! I never sorted those pics out did I...
Hold on
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on December 19, 2012, 06:02:40 pm
Ok so I've taken pics of the body and all the cables and headsets that come with it
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Title: Motorbikes
Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on December 19, 2012, 06:38:09 pm
Nice one, congrats!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: justjon on December 19, 2012, 07:05:48 pm
Brilliant, well done *applause* Although I've never understood the need for coms? Whether your riding alone or having a passenger, why on earth would one feel the need to be able to have a chat??? IMO 99% of the pleasure is being at one with the bike without someone chattering away in your ear and making you lose concentration just as your about to surf the perfect corner. Maybe it's just me?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: piker on December 19, 2012, 09:17:11 pm
Good news,Well done.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 19, 2012, 10:32:49 pm
Hey congrats! Always good to have more two wheeled comrades on the roads. Enjoy the bike & stay shiny side up :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on December 19, 2012, 10:53:52 pm
Congratulations mate,knew you could do it! Nice to get some miles under your belt now,just take it easy to begin with! *applause*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on December 19, 2012, 10:58:10 pm
Just seen the motorcycle news test of the new triumph Daytona 675r,ooh I like,I like a lot! Now to convince the wife the bike changed colour overnight due to changes in the weather....chances of success,slim to none....
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 20, 2012, 12:02:10 am
Thanks again all!
The audio kit is so I can pipe a sat nav to my helmet, and can also have the option of the radio on journeys. It's not just a bike for pleasure, it's work transport as well, and is going to get used 52 weeks a year, and it'll only stay in the garage when the roads are icy and slippery!
Cheers for the pics Paul, will have a look on the PC, see how it can hook in to a phone should the need arise.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 20, 2012, 09:19:38 am
The audio kit is so I can pipe a sat nav to my helmet, and can also have the option of the radio on journeys. It's not just a bike for pleasure, it's work transport as well, and is going to get used 52 weeks a year, and it'll only stay in the garage when the roads are icy and slippery!
TBF, i just use a normal hands free kit on my bike if im doing distance, plug the phone into it with some music playing, satnav on the phone as well, jobs a goodun!
There is only one bike of mine that doesn't come out if it rains, let alone ice/snow! and thats my Thruxton *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 20, 2012, 09:35:58 am
Not sure my Blackberry does turn by turn! Should find out really, though the display timeout would be a pain :)
I know some people have summer bikes and winter hacks, never understood people who won't ride in inclement weather though. Surely keeping up your bad weather skills is important for those days when the weather turns?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 20, 2012, 09:39:39 am
And there went post number 5000!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on December 20, 2012, 09:40:17 am
Lurch!! congratulations man- awesome news. So pleased for you. The new google maps (free) does turn by turn directions. I used it yesterday to come back from Wales, and the journey time estimate to my house in London was accurate down to the very last minute!! Was unbelievable. I'm not sure if its available for crackberries :--(
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 20, 2012, 09:42:55 am
There is a google maps app, but it doesn't speak directions, and doesn't over-ride the display light. I could, of course, go back to the old fashioned way of using a map! :)
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on December 20, 2012, 09:44:53 am
It's just been updated. Download the latest version and see if it has voice.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 20, 2012, 10:04:00 am
Not sure my Blackberry does turn by turn! Should find out really, though the display timeout would be a pain :)
I know some people have summer bikes and winter hacks, never understood people who won't ride in inclement weather though. Surely keeping up your bad weather skills is important for those days when the weather turns?
See a lot of these fair weather riders lol. A lot of people have bikes as toys for the summer ( a lot of the riders are power rangers who cant ride for shit! )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 20, 2012, 10:43:18 am
Reminds me, need to buy some new trousers, and boots...
May see about getting a Held rain suit, someone recommended it very highly, and hopefully it will fit under the seat!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 20, 2012, 07:59:17 pm
i tried rain suits, i just burn them on exhausts :( cant beat a good set of leathers though tbf..
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 20, 2012, 10:25:34 pm
The chap I bought the bike from couldn't recommend them highly enough. My foot peg is above the exhaust, and not sure how I could get it near offhand.
I've also heard that leathers aren't that good in torrential rain as they will leak at the seams. Plus they're an awful lot of money.
Ideally I'd like some trousers that are dry and warm, but not too bulky so I can take them off and stow them in the pannier or a bag easily rather than having to carry them about. I have a pair of Akito Cougars at the minute which are thisck, heavy, and too short in the leg. I had them back in '04 and bought them cheap. This time I'm not that flush for spending on some Alpinestars kit, but I will make sure I buy the best fit I can for my leg length. Not so worried about the waist. Mind you, I'm tall and slim, and as with many trousers, I find 32 long a very difficult thing to buy quite often, wonder if it'll be the same for bike kit. Not sure where the assumption comes that all the country has a smaller inside leg than the waist...
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 20, 2012, 11:22:37 pm
Leathers are rubbish in wet weather. I love my A* two piece leathers but as soon as it rains I throw a one piece rain suit over the top. Mines a spada 407suit I bought for about £40 iirc. It keeps me bone dry, especially being one piece as there's no join at the waist for water to get into. It also packs up into its own built in waist beltbag for easy transportation. It's this one
Try and find one on sale if you can. Textile suits offer good wet weather protection but IMO don't offer as good crash protection as leathers.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 20, 2012, 11:34:51 pm
That looks pretty sweet. I was recommended the Held one. Is there a comparison between the two? I guess a waterproof suit as advertised should do just that.
Isn't the main element of crash protection of leathers that they hold you tighter so they can't slip round if you're sliding? If I buy the matching trousers they will zip to the jacket to prevent that riding up if you slide feet first.
What do people do with their jackets and trousers when they get to work? I work all over the country in different places, and not always indoors, and I don't always have a place to put stuff when I'm there, particularly outdoor gigs. I guess I could get some sort of water-proof bag to keep it in while working if it came to it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 20, 2012, 11:46:42 pm
Not tried the held one so can't directly compare but can recommend the spada :) You're right about the leathers, they do hold you together better in an 'off' and as a result the armour stays where it needs to be to protect you, not to mention leather has better abrasion resistence than textiles. They also allow you to slide down the road on your ar5e rather than the textile which will sometimes grip the tarmac and send you into a multiple roll. I started out with a cheapish set of textiles and the knee and elbow armour would move all over the show. Since upgrading to decent leathers I'd be too affraid to ride in my old textiles again! I also insist my wife has good leathers when she's pillion. And yes, zipping the jacket & trousers together will prevent the riding up of the jacket when sliding down the road. 360 degree zip is best and most track days insist on this as a minimum requirment (don't know of any track days that will allow textiles) A top box might be your best solution for storing jacket & trousers if you're gonna be in and out of them. Givi have a good reputation. I have a locker at work so don't have that worry :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 20, 2012, 11:50:50 pm
Just looked up the held suit. Seems very similar spec & price so it's whatever you like the look of I'd say.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 20, 2012, 11:57:04 pm
My Frank Thomas jacket has about an 8" zip just at the back. Not sure I'll be going for track days on a Deauville though!! :)
The Held one I saw was red, I'm sure they do other colours, but I pefer the more muted look. I know visibility is important, so would definitely consider a suit with florry and reflective yellow patches.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 21, 2012, 12:03:05 am
The Held one I saw was red, I'm sure they do other colours, but I pefer the more muted look. I know visibility is important, so would definitely consider a suit with florry and reflective yellow patches.
They make the spada in four colours including this lol but all the white areas are reflective anyway. Plus there's always the option of chucking on a high vis (marmite, I know)[attach=1]
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 21, 2012, 12:16:30 am
Black and red matches the bike! Mrs Lurch just found a proper listing on her tablet, I had a tiny pic on my phone, so failed to see the colour options until a minute ago. The Held one I saw was predominantly red.
Wonder if J&S sell them? Shall have a look when on PC. Can try it all on then, check the fit. Need some waterproof boots as well. Was toying with going for Frank Thomas to keep the everyday outfit theme going!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 21, 2012, 12:28:46 am
I have these waterproof boots, Again very happy with them for the price and not had wet feet yet (owned them a 18 months). http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/54392
Think my next pair will be some tcx gortex ones though. I've heard good things about them! http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/72932
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 21, 2012, 12:36:04 am
They want to be good for £70 more!
I need to get on and get this stuff, weather isn't going to improve for a while. Reminds me, need to get some nice thick socks. Wonder what Santa will bring?
I was thinking of thermal layers, but this is going to largely depend on what the changing room situation is at the destination!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 21, 2012, 12:53:51 am
HaHa, £60 off they're a bargain. They were £130 more!! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 21, 2012, 01:16:44 am
Doctor Marten's and a plastic bag then!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 21, 2012, 01:53:08 am
*grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on December 21, 2012, 11:40:07 am
I also go for leathers and an over suit,don't worry about thermals,I'm nice and toasty in that lot. If anything's going to get cold it's hands. As a guide I can go for about an hour in leathers in the rain then the crotch is usually the first place rain gets in,not nice. An over suit does the job with the leathers nicely and I've got thick gloves with a handy wiper blade on the thumb for the visor. The over suit fold up into itself and goes around the waist and the leathers go into a large diving kit bag to keep them dry. If you can't keep an eye on it then your going to have to get locking luggage,I can't comment on luggage as I haven't used it. I'm sure that hi viz over suit was on special offer a few weeks ago. I think it was with m and p,I'll see if I've still got the e mail. As for feet getting wet,try wet suit socks. If water gets in your feet still feel nice and warm!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 21, 2012, 02:04:48 pm
What i use for work is a HG leather jacket ( supposed to be £400 odd but got it for £50 before they went bust down ere ) and draggin jeans,which i put waterproofs over the top ( cant on the NTV as leg hits the front downpipe and burns them *blink* )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 21, 2012, 04:48:12 pm
Not sure one can burn the leg on the Deauville. What year is your NTV?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 23, 2012, 05:13:56 pm
Took her out for a spin today. Love the bike! Good job really now I own it! :)
Went to the White Rose Centre for some Christmas shopping (shopping fail), over to MA for some ferts (ferts fail) and in to Morley for some cards (card success!). Probably did about 20 miles in all. Very gusty and I can safely say that the Deauville is caught by the wind far more than a GS500! As it's a (much) heavier bike, where the wind was from my left I ended up putting both feet down at some of the lights and junctions just to help the balance. Fine for just the left foot down otherwise.
Loving the tall screen, very comfortable pocket of air you sit in, although my head was buffeted a bit by side winds! What gives with one hand etc. Also noticed that the gears are wider than the GS500, so quickly had to adapt to changing down gear later than I'm used to.
Had a look at the potential for leg burning, can't say it looks like it'll be an issue. The footpeg ensures your leg is away enough from the bike, plus the exhaust is pretty flush with the side at the point.
Topped the tank with some fuel, and got complimented by the cashier too :)
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 24, 2012, 08:43:29 am
Happy days! Glad you're enjoying the bike, now roll on spring and some decent weather!!!!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 24, 2012, 09:01:29 am
Imagine how much I'll appreciate nice weather after learning in the winter!! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 24, 2012, 07:07:55 pm
Not sure one can burn the leg on the Deauville. What year is your NTV?
1994, without the panniers or fairing, the good old naked NTV. The rear header pipe goes just infront of the engine cases and curves back. Problem is i have long legs and this one is really low!! so with my knees bent and in waterproofs i end up touching the pipe enough to burn it lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 24, 2012, 07:25:13 pm
Pic! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 25, 2012, 03:29:48 pm
I'll have to grab a pick later or tomorrow. I don't seem to have any of that old bike lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 25, 2012, 04:37:09 pm
Today would have been good for a ride, but decided it might be best on today of all days to err on the side of family obligations! :)
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on December 26, 2012, 09:03:42 am
Today would have been good for a ride, but decided it might be best on today of all days to err on the side of family obligations! :)
I was tempted too but don't think it would have gone down too well lol.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 26, 2012, 11:36:55 am
Doesn't look like I will today either, and it's a lovely day too.
I shall console myself by heading off to get some new touring boots and some longer leg trousers.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on December 26, 2012, 07:07:32 pm
wish i could get out on the bike, feeling rougher by the day =/ not got the energy to do jack shit today *bye3*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on December 26, 2012, 10:59:58 pm
Night and Day Nurse twin pack? I'm hoping to get out tomorrow to get my new boots and trousers. Went today in the car as I was only up the road at the out-laws, but they were closed!! On boxing day!!
Discovered my Oxford alarmed disc lock doesn't fit my discs, or any other part of the bike for that matter. Currently it's holding my chain round my bike. Found out thanks to the Deauville forum that the Motrax Guvna fits, just. Ordered one, and as Motrax are discontinuing it, intobikes has them with 1/3rd off. And it's still Thatcham approved.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 05, 2013, 06:46:26 pm
finally got out on my ducati. Took it for a ride to the girlfriends. Thats a 100 mile round trip :) get the cobwebs off anyway!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 05, 2013, 06:59:20 pm
Not gone far in mine yet. Going to go to Selby soon, 60 mile round trip, see how it is. Hoping for reasonable weather for my first longer journey.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 04:30:47 am
Anyone have any experience of the Shark vision-R helmet? I've got an opportunity to pick one up new at a great price but would like some feedback if possible. I've asked on my usual bike forum but thought I'd ask here too.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 11, 2013, 10:52:43 am
can't comment on the vision-r but i have a S900 and love it! But still not as good as my Scorpion EXO-1000 Air.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 12:29:56 pm
Yeah the wife has the s900, it's a great lid. I'd have one myself but this vision-R has come up and it's similar spec...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 11, 2013, 01:57:03 pm
I've had the S900 Fost for a few years now. Glows in the dark ( panics some drivers at night! )
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 08:13:36 pm
Glow in the dark! Cool, lol. Well I ended up buying the vision-R. It was too good a price to turn down and the fit was good as well. The wife isn't too pleased but I've promised to sell my AGV K-4 to help offset the outlay on this new helmet. If anyone's interested drop me a pm.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on January 11, 2013, 08:56:01 pm
Glow in the dark! Cool, lol. Well I ended up buying the vision-R. It was too good a price to turn down and the fit was good as well. The wife isn't too pleased but I've promised to sell my AGV K-4 to help offset the outlay on this new helmet. If anyone's interested drop me a pm.
Can you put up a pict of your AGV K-4 and price. I am thinking about selling my car and getting another bike. the car has only done 500 miles in 2012 and its to good of a car to be sitting in the shed all year round. I am also thinking about gore tex instead of leathers are they quick and easy to get on and off ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 09:05:49 pm
I'm at work at the moment so don't have any decent pics, but it's identical to this one below. Size is 55-56cm which on AGV's chart is a small. Comes with dark and clear visors and helmet bag, as well as a spare visor waist bag/protector/carrier thingy *grin*. Looking to get £70 + postage for it. It's in really great nick too.
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Here's the only pic I've got to hand, me wearing the helmet. [attach=3]
Here's a link to the full advertisment on sv650.org. http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=2817345#post2817345
(mods, if this needs a new thread etc please feel free to move/advise as appropriate).
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2013, 09:07:39 pm
Well as the original poster, and titling the thread as "Motorbikes" I'd say you're within remit! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 09:09:45 pm
Haha, yeah I guess. Cheers Lurch *grin*
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on January 11, 2013, 09:18:40 pm
Lol looks great is it pinlock ?what is it like for the fog and frosty mornings ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 09:25:15 pm
Lol looks great is it pinlock ?what is it like for the fog and frosty mornings ?
It's not pinlock but has an anti scratch, anti fog visor which works pretty well tbh. On the really cold damp days I've just used a bit of Muc off anti fog spray when cleaning my visor before setting off. Works a treat and lasts a suprisingly long time. I do believe you can buy a 'pinlock ready' visor for this model though. I seem to remember seeing them when I weas searching online for my dark tint visor.
This link has specs etc http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/69905
And here's the anti fog spray I use (but need very rarely, a little squirt lasts ages). http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/101982?r=Froogle&gclid=CLuV9eGe4bQCFSTLtAod9X8AVQ
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2013, 09:28:46 pm
Reminds me, I have some "Anti-Regen" I got for my visor to make the water pearl off. How is one meant to apply it? Spray and wipe or spray and air dry? It's German stuff from Get Geared, and I can't find any instructions!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 09:34:46 pm
Hmmm, I've not come across that particular one but I'd imagine it'd be spray and wipe (the muc off stuff is). I buy a bunch of six microfibres clothes from B&q for about £2. Bike shops and websites sell the same thing for a much higher price! So long as they're lint free they're good for polishing the bike, cleaning visors etc. they're washable too provided they aren't too mucky
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2013, 10:34:50 pm
Good that's the way I have been doing it!! My cloths are from Asda though, green and blue ones :)
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 10:35:51 pm
Samesame
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2013, 10:37:04 pm
Should really keep the stuff in the bike with a cloth. Going to be no good if I get a mucky visor when out!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 10:40:43 pm
Yeah, I keep a mine in an old shave kit bag under the seat with my alarmed disc lock. It's about all there's room for lol :D
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2013, 10:41:51 pm
I have two glove boxes on my bike! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 10:45:22 pm
That's where I'm going wrong, I think it'll soon be time for a tourer but I don't want to admit it lol.
Wonder if I can talk the wife into letting me buy a second bike?..... roflmao
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2013, 10:48:07 pm
If she doesn't go in to the garage, would she know? Can pick up Deauvilles for not too much money, but I'd also say look at the Pan if you want serious luggage. You can get larger pannier lids for the Deaus, but they don't come up often second hand.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 10:54:57 pm
Tbh I like the look of the Triumph Sprint ST 1050 (2007 onwards abs model). Still sporty(ish) without the topbox and panniers. It could just be that it'll tick all my boxes but I haven't ridden one yet. May book a test ride.
And yes unfortunately the wife does venture out to the garage now and again. Mainly to tell me that I need to come back into the house because "The ten minute job you said you were going to do should have been finished two hours ago" *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2013, 11:19:47 pm
The 2012 is even more awesome! Or is that the ST1200 I'm thinking of?
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 11, 2013, 11:22:32 pm
Not sure but my budget would be 5-6k max so it'd probably be out of my reach at the moment anyway. How much does a healthy kidney fetch these days?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2013, 11:27:52 pm
I'll give Fat Tony a call in the morning and ask! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 14, 2013, 10:29:46 am
the ST1300 is a seriously heavy bike! FJR is a nice sports tourer bike. My dads just got rid of his 2012 model for a brand spanker! still waiting on delivery days *grin* I've ridden the fjr and it feels less like a tourer and more like a muscle bike. Can pick up a good 2007 ish one for less than £6,000, and there a hell lot more new lol. Any of you lot on your bikes today? got a few inches of snow and black ice so i chickened out! lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 14, 2013, 10:36:50 am
Fair bit of snow here, roads seem clear and no idea what the ice situation is, but I've no need to go out today either on 4 wheels or two! Used to take the CG125 out in the snow. The snow was deep, and it kept snowing, so the thin tyre cut right through. Was heading to work at 5.30am, so no one else was about, virgin snow - came to a round about, approached virtually in the gutter and straightlined it. Never ridden so slow, and had my feet out as ski stabilisers!! :)
Might have to drag Little Lurch round the garden on the sledge though!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 22, 2013, 02:47:28 am
This snow is pants and I'm getting withdraw symptoms from the serious lack of riding. Not as bad as this guy though! The lengths some people will go to just to get their fix..... *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on January 22, 2013, 08:52:51 am
roflmao roflmao roflmao
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 22, 2013, 09:23:12 am
Lazy git *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 22, 2013, 02:53:04 pm
Ugh, my Ducati has a flat battery, tried to start and backfired lol! Enough power to get the fuel pump going but not enough to start the damn thing. On a optimizer for now, I want to get back on the bike as I'm bored of lifts!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: tony1112 on January 24, 2013, 11:15:44 pm
another biker joins the fold. have a zzr 1100 at the moment after destroying 3 hayabusas. happy biking every one *cheers*
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on January 24, 2013, 11:32:26 pm
Dare I ask...... 3 busas, how?????
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 25, 2013, 08:36:11 am
I have a dislike for busa's so 3 less that i can see! *grin* Chadatious is also a biker, His got a zx9r
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 31, 2013, 09:11:24 pm
new toy :D (http://i10.servimg.com/u/f10/18/06/46/96/captur10.jpg)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on January 31, 2013, 09:34:52 pm
Shiny!!!
One problem though... Where's the fairings to keep the worst of the weather off you? And the touring screen?!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Cylindric on February 01, 2013, 12:43:33 am
Been riding for about 6 months now, to get to my new job instead of commuting by train to London. Pretty much through the thick'n'thin the last couple of months :)
Time to get a couple of lessons and pass those damned tests so I can get a bike that'll drag my arse faster than 60.
(http://i.imgur.com/HCJGN.jpg)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 01, 2013, 01:02:11 am
I nearly bought one of those a couple of years ago. Can't knock 150mpg!
Taking mine over to Selby tomorrow if the wind dies down. Not sure I have the experience for high winds just yet.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on February 01, 2013, 07:20:28 am
Not sure I have the experience for high winds just yet.
I remember my first baptism of fire with regards to wind. Bristol to Chepstow via the old Severn bridge on a very gusty day. Almost came back via Gloucester and the Forest of Dean (the long way round). Used to it now but it scared the bejesus out of me back then!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 01, 2013, 09:21:02 am
Seems it's not windy at all today, shame as I'd like to have got the experience on the Deau.
Never mind, be nice to get back out on it regardless. Need to get one of those clear clip on pouches for the old sat nav to put on the handlebars. It can go in the top of my tank bag, but I don't intend taking that today. Back to the old fashioned way of remembering a route. May get a magnetic map pounch, can put maps and/or nav/small stuff in there then.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 01, 2013, 10:45:45 am
Very nice :). My neighbour has an xjr1300 and toured it all the way through Spain to morocco. Great bike according to him!
I had the 400 a while back, and my dads had the 1200 and 1300. Cracking bikes, got full luggage for it, new cans are going on tomoz ( fingers crossed ) just need some nicer bars, a screen and im set!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 01, 2013, 10:09:45 pm
Went to Selby today on the Deau to get my plants, got all but 6 miles of the way there, and the bike cut out!, indicated and coasted to the side, fortunately I was on a wide bit of road, and stopped near opposite the entrance to Eggborough power station, so pushed it in to there out the way. Didn't have the recovery number to hand, so rang home for Mrs Lurch to find it out, but the time she had sent it to me in a text, it started again. Went the next 6 miles to PT, got my stuff and rode home on the A roads (now having been on them, wish I hadn't, come to that later). Bike was fine. No idea what it was, there was plenty of fuel, hadn't touched the kill switch. While stopped I tried starting it a few times, tried the choke for good measure, but nothing, and then back in to life. Odd. It's not electronic ignition, so can't be that, speaking to a friend he had a similar problem with a knackered spark lead on a car. Doesn't explain it cutting out while riding steady, and doesn't explain why it eventually started without touching or moving the bike.
Might have to do a few steady runs out somewhere during the day to try and see if it was one of those things, or if it does it again. Really don't want it to cut out when I have to be somewhere. This is the longest continuous run I've given it, so could it be something to do with that? It's done so few miles in the last year, and I've only put 50 odd on it prior to this journey since the middle of December.
Anyway - the A roads. The worst bit was they're not that great, they have bends and are narrow in places - this used to be the main road before the M62! Wouldn't have been a great place to break down, should have taken the motorway, and chosen very safe moments to over take slow vehicles where I could bail back to the inside easily, and just avoided the outside lane in case of breakdown. The other thing I discovered was that the dipped beam is absolute bollocks! Had no idea where some of the bends were, and had to drop to 40mph in some places.
Still, enjoyed the run! It was a little bit windy, so had to counter some buffeting, just need to do a high speed run when it's still to find out the difference between normal headwind and wind.
I really need to think about changing my helmet - the wind noise is shocking, hate to think what it would be like if I didn't have a touring screen!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Cylindric on February 01, 2013, 10:42:12 pm
I go on this road every day to work and back :) Gets a bit gnarly at times - it's only one-lane wide and the edges get a bit muddy. It's okay until someone in a 4x4 DeathCage decides (s)he needs to use the entire road.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on February 02, 2013, 03:50:49 pm
Just went for a quick blast and noticed a slight burning smell when I opened her out. Temperature gauge was fine,all levels ok. (It has been standing for a few weeks due to the snow,don't know if that has anything to do with it).
Started straight away(you've got to love optimate!) and was fine at normal speed,only got a smell during fast acceleration.
Should I be worried. Any ideas anyone?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: craigw on February 03, 2013, 01:40:03 pm
heres the bikes ive had and pic of the one i hope i can afford for the summer i aint had one for 3yrs now :-( first bike bandit (http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/craigw9946/5E4B5152-B15E-4116-8248-4986E30FB95E-415-00000061DBE31DAF_zps88faf6cc.jpg) my r6 but couldnt ride it after a shoulder op so had to sell (http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/craigw9946/64C716D8-4D06-4C86-AA7C-AFB924A22726-415-00000061D58D7B3C_zps18da5317.jpg) and the next one i hope gsr600 very light and comfy for city use *grin* (http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af351/craigw9946/6E1839F8-36ED-4CC0-9895-BF60EE78CC44-446-000000639FEE8E37_zps9c01b5c5.jpg)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 03, 2013, 09:15:04 pm
No idea what it was, there was plenty of fuel, hadn't touched the kill switch. While stopped I tried starting it a few times, tried the choke for good measure, but nothing, and then back in to life. Odd. It's not electronic ignition, so can't be that, speaking to a friend he had a similar problem with a knackered spark lead on a car. Doesn't explain it cutting out while riding steady, and doesn't explain why it eventually started without touching or moving the bike.
Could be carb freezing?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 03, 2013, 09:19:38 pm
Found out thanks to the Deauville forum - points failure on the fuel pump. They'll run all day at low revs, but if you've had the throttle open for a prolonged time, gravity alone isn't enough to get enough fuel to the engine so it falters. What happened when I stopped, enough fuel got through, and coming back on A roads at lower revs means it kept up. Got a new set of points coming, £25 delivered. 3 screws and a solder joint to fit, plus if I fit a diode as well, it'll stop the problem from happening again.
Very solid bikes, and it's pretty much the only "known" problem as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 04, 2013, 01:14:12 pm
wonder if the NTV 650 has the same problem? ours is old, tatty and has a fair few thousand miles on it! but its never had the problem since we have owned it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 04, 2013, 04:04:18 pm
Not sure, if there's a plastic cap on your pump, pop it off, and have a look what's underneath!
I've ordered points, HID kit, ear plugs, and white LED sidelight bulb! The HID kit is a car one, you just use half of it and sell the other one one. The car kit (2bulbs) is cheaper than the bike kit (1bulb) believe it or not!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on February 04, 2013, 09:50:21 pm
Potential controversial post here. I'm thinking about trading my GSXR600 in... for a Harley Davidson
I'm tired of the uncomfortable riding position, I've not used it for over a year cos it's just not comfortable. I know I could get another bike that's more comfy, but I'm also not too keen on racing around bends worrying about what might be round the corner anymore.
I can get an Iron 883 for £99/month, it'll be laid back and loud enough that no one will fail to hear me coming and hopefully no-one will be trying to knock me off.
I won't be getting a tassled jacket...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: bigfrogs on February 04, 2013, 09:53:48 pm
That will look nice parked out side the Blue Oyster Bar stonc0ld *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Chadatious on February 04, 2013, 09:59:31 pm
ill get some pics later
i have a c2 zx9r. love it. just resprayed it in hayate race colours. quite a few goodies ;)
went for the first 2013 ride yesterday was bit nippy out *brrr*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: jaffa1963 on February 04, 2013, 10:07:20 pm
Stonecold,
I've test ridden a couple of Harleys and they were fun but loads of vibration and I'm sure they would have done my head in after a week or so.
I'd recommend you pop down to a Triumph dealership and test ride a few.
There is the Tiger 800, Speed Triple (1050 CC) and Street Triple (675CC). The latter sounds small but I've had a Street Triple for two years now and wouldn't swap it for any other bike. Relaxed riding position, loads of fun and air induction under power sounds mint. Exhaust sounds wicked with Arrow cans.
If you're in the area you can have a go on My bike.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 04, 2013, 10:39:53 pm
I have no idea how well I'd get on with a cruiser type bike. Let me know when you get it, I'll try not to write it off :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on February 05, 2013, 08:09:35 am
Too much cleaning for me! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 05, 2013, 09:08:02 am
Take a while to get the shine back on that tank :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on February 05, 2013, 11:16:46 am
I rode a v rod down from Orlando to Daytona once. Great sounding bike but the suspension was rock hard,by the time I got off I'd aged 10 years!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on February 05, 2013, 11:28:33 am
i have a c2 zx9r. love it. just resprayed it in hayate race colours. quite a few goodies ;)
went for the first 2013 ride yesterday was bit nippy out *brrr*
Sounds very nice I had a few zx9r before moving up to the zx10r the last zx9r I modded it with the front lights and faring from the the 03 bike looked great.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Chadatious on February 05, 2013, 04:25:42 pm
heres a pic of mine, it more completed, and road worthy now but still needs some work,
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on February 05, 2013, 06:14:32 pm
Looks tidy that!
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Irish-zx10r on February 06, 2013, 11:05:14 am
Very nice
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 06, 2013, 11:38:02 am
Well, I ordered:
A 6000K HID kit LED sidelight (to match above) A fuel pump repair kit Ear plugs
All but the ear plugs have arrived, and due to my muppetry, I failed to specify the 6000K kit, so they sent the default 8000K kit. Oops! I ordered the 6000K as apparently it will match the sidelight better. Wonder how bad it'll be, or whether I pay for a swap...
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on February 06, 2013, 11:43:31 am
Might get a bit of algae growth with a temperature as high as 8000 K LOL *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 06, 2013, 11:44:37 am
Surely any fool knows you keep a bike in a garage, not in a fish tank! *lol*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 06, 2013, 02:28:10 pm
Spoke to my seller, if I send the 8s to him and £3.50 for postage, he'll send me the 6000Ks.
Pretty reasonable.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on February 06, 2013, 02:39:02 pm
Good call. 8000k will be a bit chavtastic blue anyway. 5000k or 6000k is waaaay better. I've thought about HID's myself but I reckon if I do it I'll go the whole hog and fit projector lamps inside the light unit. A standard HID bulb can be difficult to get a decent beam pattern using a standard reflector on some bikes (mine included) and just scatters randomly, blinding oncoming traffic. Be sure to take your time and get them set up right. Too many riders just plonk them in.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 06, 2013, 02:58:44 pm
Haha! Chavtastic! Love it!
I was recommended this specific set by someone on the Deauville forum, and he's the sort to fully research, plus he owns a LPG conversion company, so fully understands the requirements for correctly fitting equipment.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 06, 2013, 05:32:38 pm
watch it, cause they were going to ban people using HID kits in non HID lenses. Not sure if they are going to pass mot's or not with these retrofit HID's
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 06, 2013, 07:02:25 pm
I mentioned it a while back on the Deauville forum, and there appeared to be no concern amongst them, as long as the beam pattern was fine and it passed the oojameflip optical tool on the MOT, it would be fine. Plus I can replug the ballast for the MOT back to halogen :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 07, 2013, 01:58:51 pm
Back out again today! Didn't achieve high speed for more than a few minutes at a time. I now have the diode to help prevent points wear, so shall go borrow my friend's long extension lead to fit it all, don't fancy taking the pump off for Mrs Lurch to be upset about the petrol smell in the house!
Just need the HID lamps to arrive now, and job done!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 07, 2013, 02:08:59 pm
Using the NTV today for work *grin* forgot how funny the little thing is to ride. The exhaust is buggered so it pops a lot when slowing down.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 07, 2013, 02:16:49 pm
I thought my panniers fell open, couldn;t see anything on the road, and kinda sounded like I'd ridden over something plastic. Freaked me out next lights I must have looked like a dick looking behind me and prodding things just in case!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 07, 2013, 03:40:04 pm
roflmao
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 07, 2013, 05:34:39 pm
Mate of mine just came round to drop his long extension lead off so I could power the soldering iron in the garage for the pump, and I spotted some fresh oil spots on the floor. Wonder if that's anything to do with the noise earlier? Never been a drip from it before.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 08, 2013, 08:37:15 am
check your sump bolt, see if its leaking from a gasket or just the drain bolt, check the oil filter is done up properly as well. Should hear noises and see oil!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 08, 2013, 09:35:00 am
I'll be having a poke later! Trouble with touring bikes is that everything has a flippin' cover over it!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 10, 2013, 09:40:42 pm
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 10, 2013, 10:09:01 pm
You seen those seat warming pads? Got to unstaple the trim from the seat to fit them though.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 10, 2013, 10:11:23 pm
had to take the old cover off to put this one on, right bastard to do!!! think this is the 5th seat cover ive had done in the last 2 years lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 10, 2013, 10:15:00 pm
I still have to fit my HID, with picking up the Cory today and needing to do water changes, I've postponed it until tomorrow.
Need to give it a good blast at high revs too to test the fuel pump, apparently uphill is a good test.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 10, 2013, 10:15:41 pm
uphill high gear and WOT should be a good test :P
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 10, 2013, 10:28:46 pm
WOT?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 11, 2013, 08:16:10 am
wide open throttle, although saying that, if it only does it at top end the maybe a proper blast on it will help.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2013, 09:04:40 am
I'll be hitting 40 and 60 roads, probably in 4th and 3rd respectively.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2013, 02:48:42 pm
Don't think I posted this - extreme filtering!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aUvZYKV5z7w
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2013, 02:50:47 pm
HID kit fitted!
Before: [attach=1]
After: [attach=2]
Going to give the bike a damn good service as well, I'm one bolt and a clamp away from the fuel tank being off anyway, so might as well get in there and give it a clean and change the bits so I don't have to for a while. I have a list...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 11, 2013, 03:02:49 pm
aye i would. HID's look pretty bright! *blink* I tend to go with the *very loud bike* route *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 14, 2013, 10:31:59 am
Wahey!!! Just need my bendy plug socket (tomorrow/Sat) and I'm off!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 14, 2013, 01:35:25 pm
going all out i see *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 14, 2013, 01:38:53 pm
Yup! Had a couple of panels off the bike to do the fuel pump points and HID, so thought I might as well take all the panels off and get on with a service. Gonna do everything except balance the carbs as I'm not going to spend that money on a twin vac gauge. What you don't see in the pic is brake fluid, cos I already had some of that!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on February 14, 2013, 08:13:00 pm
Just got my renewal quote for the cbr and it was 30 percent higher than last year. Went online as a new customer with the same company and it was £25 cheaper. Robbing b@@@@@@s! The best thing was I clicked on to protect my no claims bonus out of curiosity to see how much extra it would be and it came back with the same quote! I'm waiting for them to ring me now asking why I haven't taken out the renewal and when they do I'm going to give them a piece of my mind!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 14, 2013, 11:19:06 pm
Had that with a car once.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on February 14, 2013, 11:20:43 pm
It's a licence to print money for 'em. They've got us by the bollocks cause it's the law to have insurance so they can charge what they like. Robbing gits!!! The whole industry needs a shake up.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 14, 2013, 11:28:03 pm
The litigation and ambulance chasers need reform first. Whiplash my ass.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 15, 2013, 10:04:01 am
lol! i got had to pay £30 odd to swap the z1000 for the ducati monster, then they gave me £20 back to change to the XJR1300. Now i might be stupid, but the xjr is a higher insurance group than the ducati, and the zed was higher than the ducati, But being italian i expected the insurance to be sky high ( like trying to insure a Ferrari for a 17 year old! ) They just make it up as they go along.
A couple years ago when i was on a 125, some one cut me up, slammed into my side on a wet road but i stayed upright. He didnt have any insurance information with him which was bad enough, but i didnt want to claim as it was his fault and he was trying to screw me over for the simple fact i was on L plates. The insurance company was in my favour as it was a filter lane into his, but he cut across on the bend ( goes into 2 AFTER the bend ) when he hit me, but then when i went to renew my insurance the year after they said i had a claim!!! Lets just say a visit to there HQ and a mention of where my mum works ( the solicitors they deal with for the claims! ) they soon got there act together.
Oh and there was no damage my bike, but damn was his car fucked up! bloody tin cans some of these cars lol.
Anyway bit of a rant there, but they will seriously do anything to get a few extra quid out of you!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 15, 2013, 10:19:50 am
The thing I found with insurance as a newly passed rider that the size of the bike had little bearing on the insurance, it was the value of the bike.
I compared an ST1100 against a similarly priced Deauville, and the insurance was £250 against £180. If I'd gone for a Deauville at £5000 not £1800, the insurance shot up dramatically.
I've only insured this one TPFT as FC would have been over double the price, and not worth is because of the value of the bike. When I get some no claims I'll FC insure the bike as the gap will be smaller.
Incidentally, I looked up insurance on a Triumph Trophy 900 that Jordan's had in, and it was about the same as the Deau, but the bike was only £900.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 15, 2013, 10:21:23 am
Spark plug spanner arrived today! Whoop! Special tapered thing.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Cylindric on February 15, 2013, 07:02:11 pm
Now more importantly, I'm about 4,000 miles (6 months commuting) into riding and need to know how to put on a helmet without squishing my ears, or looking like I'm tucking them in. Maybe I just have large ears :-)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 15, 2013, 07:06:10 pm
Charles?! Is that you in there?
I put mine on by holding the straps out. Or you need to try a different make or model of the helmet. Remember, the best helmet isn't a £400 Shoei, it's the one that fits you best. Mine is a £120 Caberg and it's an ace fit. Be nice if the bit below the visor was a tad further forward, but the rest is a very good fit. And it has an inner tinted visor I can flip down :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on February 15, 2013, 08:07:53 pm
I have rather large ears and have perfected this technique. Go to put on the helmet holding the straps with your fingers. Just as the helmet comes to touch the top of your ears tuck each ear in with your thumbs. Once tucked in continue to pull the straps down. Hey presto,helmet on with no ear ache! *grin*
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on February 15, 2013, 08:23:22 pm
need to know how to put on a helmet without squishing my ears, or looking like I'm tucking them in. Maybe I just have large ears :-)
I have no such problem due to having the smallest ears in the known world. It's actually a bit weird, my four year old son has ears the same size as mine :)
And it has an inner tinted visor I can flip down :)
Loving my new shark vision-r. The internal sun visor is a god send at this time of year when the sun is low.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Cylindric on February 15, 2013, 08:28:31 pm
Hah. Mine is a Caberg too. In the winter the tinted visor steams up like a cliché in a shower room though :'( The pinlock on the main visor rocks though.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dkid413 on February 15, 2013, 08:34:58 pm
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 17, 2013, 12:07:11 am
Got the bulk of the work done on the bike, including my first ever tappet check! Final levels check tomorrow. Need to loosen off the rocker cover and put the corner of the gasket I missed back into place. So what's been done includes: oil/oil filter, air filter, plugs (what an arse), coolant change. Also to do - wiring my grips back to the battery, brake fluid change and rear drive oil. Think that about covers what I've done and need to do!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: jaffa1963 on February 17, 2013, 09:44:10 am
I wear glasses so used to have a lot of bother with them steaming up.
A year ago I bought a foggy mask that velcros into the helmet to form a seal around your nose, like a fighter pilot's oxygen mask. It works great.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on April 22, 2013, 01:35:54 am
Had my longest ever ride today, and rain for 75% of the journey too.
Did a 120 mile round trip, was a little apprehensive as I'd not given it a blast since replacing the fuel pump points, but made it OK.
Not a howling gale but windy, and crossed the M62 with some good buffeting. Quickly learned that in a cross wind to give trucks a wide berth :)
Also discovered that my lid allows a small trickle of water down the dead centre of the inside of the visor. Not sure what to do about that.
As I entered the windy portion of the journey it crossed my mind - what if I really don't like this and can't cope?! Fortunately I coped and didn't mind, and I'm sure the journeys on still sunny days will more than make up for the less hospitable ones.
One thing I did think of wad that a Pan may be better for the biking I intend doing than a Deauville... Bit more oomph! Can't say the Deau struggled at motorway speeds, but will the intended journeys throughout the year perhaps be a bit of an ask for it?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Critch on April 22, 2013, 08:13:14 am
Get a new helmet, I have a caberg and the water does not run off the seal at the top of the visor, know problem which they have never seemed to fix and its offers very little noise protection, Compared to other helmets, I commuted for best part of 6 years in the local weather you experienced yesterday,
How did you find buffering on your sholders n head ?
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on April 22, 2013, 08:20:05 am
My helmet is a Caberg V2. Integral sun visor, not that I needed it yesterday :)
Buffeting isn't a problem on my bike as it has a tall touring screen, although my head is in or near the turbulence off it going by the noise. Gusting cross winds give the head a bit of a wobble. I can eliminate the noise by hunkering down under the screen, but I must look a prat doing that on a sit-up bike :)
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Post by: Critch on April 22, 2013, 08:31:00 am
That's why I asked, knowing how lofty you are, Ian not as tall as you but i found some bikes just needed a taller screen, So at what point did you find the bike lacking in power so to speak
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Post by: Critch on April 22, 2013, 08:38:05 am
Is yours the 650 model ??
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 22, 2013, 08:40:12 am
Hard to say really. I guess coming up the hill from the Milnrow and Shaw junction up to the summit it more felt and sounded like it wasn't quite enough, although doing that same journey in clement weather might tell a different story. Bearing in mind I have no comparison to draw from as before getting this bike in December, I'd only had a 125 where getting to 60 was fine, beyond that really was an ask :)
Yeah, the 650, apparently the 700 has noticeably more oompf.
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Post by: Critch on April 22, 2013, 08:41:50 am
Should easly pull 80 going up there,
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Post by: johnbow on April 22, 2013, 08:44:08 am
I'm planning a trip to Ireland for the bike racing in a few months. I don't want to pay a fortune for a bike nav so I've come up with a plan. I have an old tom tom xl with Ireland maps on. I already have an optimate charging lead on the bike so I was going to get a cigarette lighter socket to run from it to the sat nav. I've also seen a few sat nav bags online with a clear window on the front and Velcro straps to wrap around the bars. I'm looking at the oxford,tech 7 and givi bags.
If anyone has already done this what's the best way to run the lead up to the sat nav? Tie wrap up the frame or under the tank? Also if anyone already has one of these bags what do you think of it and is it easy to fit on a sports bike?
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Post by: Critch on April 22, 2013, 09:00:13 am
Cannot help here I am a old-fashioned map kinda guy,
Def think tank bag would be the way to go, anything mounted on the handle bar area would just get vibrated the crap out of,
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 22, 2013, 09:13:37 am
Critch - 80 "shouldn't" ;) be a problem at all going up that hill, it's just about how much power is in reserve. Definitely need to make the trip in nice weather to get a better feel of the bike.
Satnavs - I took mine as a backup for where I was going, it doesn't have an audio out, so couldn't pop an earpiece in. I put it in my tank bag, but the height the bag was at and the angle meant I couldn't see it unless I stopped and leant forwards for it due to the light reflecting off the clear pocket. Maybe a tank pouch rather than a bag might work. The bike's previous owner had one of the handlebar mounts which would allow you to angle the sat nav spot on. Can't help with the wiring for a sports bike, my bike has ab accessory socket on the dash panels :) I did run an extra cable in from the grips, and followed the wiring loom up the frame to the bars. I suspect putting some carefully placed cable ties would mean the cable didn't snag. Advantage of my bike is that the instrument binnacle is part of the bike frame rather than attached to the handlebars.
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Post by: Critch on April 22, 2013, 01:00:52 pm
Right get what ya mean,C:-)
Honda think of everything when it comes to touring bikes, Now not sure sat navs are meant for sports bikes,
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Post by: fr499y on April 22, 2013, 01:26:35 pm
I'm planning a trip to Ireland for the bike racing in a few months. I don't want to pay a fortune for a bike nav so I've come up with a plan. I have an old tom tom xl with Ireland maps on. I already have an optimate charging lead on the bike so I was going to get a cigarette lighter socket to run from it to the sat nav. I've also seen a few sat nav bags online with a clear window on the front and Velcro straps to wrap around the bars. I'm looking at the oxford,tech 7 and givi bags.
If anyone has already done this what's the best way to run the lead up to the sat nav? Tie wrap up the frame or under the tank? Also if anyone already has one of these bags what do you think of it and is it easy to fit on a sports bike?
if you want the givi satnav mount bag, let me know, got one i dont need/want :) As for 12V lead, run it from battery ( make sure its fused ) along the frame rail ( if possible ) to the front of the tank where the clutch cables/throttle/wiring goes, up to the bars and cable tie it either by the bars or next to the ignition like i do :) Oh and i used mine on a bandit 600, sv650s, thunderace without any issues :)
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Post by: johnbow on April 22, 2013, 11:05:02 pm
Is it the same bag? I'm looking for the givi 850 one with the waterproof cover just in case it pours down. If it is how much do you want for it? Yes the cigarette connector Is fused and it sets the voltage to 5v which is what the sat nav runs at.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 22, 2013, 11:29:14 pm
I never checked my accessory voltage. Say nav stayed on for an hour, so must have given it some juice.
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Post by: fr499y on April 23, 2013, 09:20:30 am
Is it the same bag? I'm looking for the givi 850 one with the waterproof cover just in case it pours down. If it is how much do you want for it? Yes the cigarette connector Is fused and it sets the voltage to 5v which is what the sat nav runs at.
Yes its the givi S850 bag. make me a offer via PM and i'll let you know! Hardly any use and is like new ( never needed to use the waterproof cover, even in heavy rain )
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Post by: fr499y on April 23, 2013, 08:16:20 pm
This what your after?
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Post by: johnbow on April 23, 2013, 08:22:36 pm
Great thanks. I've just pm'd you.
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 22, 2013, 10:09:36 pm
I was hoping to take my bike to London today, but after checking the tyre pressures last niggt it appears the front tyre valve is a tad dicky, so had to take the car :(
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Post by: dkid413 on May 27, 2013, 12:55:50 pm
Changed the bike last week, so thought I'd share a pic here. Out went the Suzuki SV650 and in comes the 2008 Honda CBR600rr :)
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Post by: johnbow on May 27, 2013, 06:28:03 pm
I'm sure you'll enjoy it,fierce acceleration low down for a 600,I love mine!
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Post by: dkid413 on May 27, 2013, 09:02:55 pm
Yeah I know what you mean. The thing just keeps on reving too! Going from a torquey v-twin to a high rpm il4 is chalk and cheese but so far I'm loving the rr!
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Post by: fr499y on May 28, 2013, 11:08:20 am
i went the other way from sport to naked. I had a Thunderace and went from that to a xjr 1300 :P thing is full of torque.
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Post by: dkid413 on May 28, 2013, 01:07:41 pm
Both in line fours though aren't they? I'm sure they are very different though. My neighbour has the xjr1300. Lovely bike :)
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Post by: fr499y on May 28, 2013, 04:19:33 pm
Yes, ive had pretty all types of bikes except a tripple and a flat six! got to say i have a soft spot for V-twins. Loved my KTM 950 SM but the bloody thing never worked! I went from a SV650 Sport to a Z1000 which i had for about 3 years :)
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Post by: dkid413 on May 28, 2013, 05:01:19 pm
Yeah I know what you mean about the soft spot for the twin thumpers. The Sv gets under your skin in a good way. It's easy to see why they have such a big user base here and in the states. I considered staying with v twins but Ducati's have a rep for spending more time in bits than on the road working and I don't know anyone who's owned an aprilia rsvr or Mille etc (plus parts are more expensive & harder to soure than jap bikes).
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Post by: fr499y on May 28, 2013, 09:41:52 pm
funny you should say that, i traded my zed in for a ducati monster S2R Capirossi LTD edition, kept it for about 2 months then traded it in. Lovely bike, ( well it had full termi, race ECU etc ) but the build quality was um.. poor? the power coating was flaking on the engine in that time of me owning it. There is so many sports bikes out there that i like, but can't physically ride one without being in pain. Can't even ride my thruxton for long which is a real shame.
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Post by: dkid413 on May 29, 2013, 04:11:03 pm
Well, It's time to start modding the cbr :) Ordered today were a Yoshimura rs-5 slip on exhaust, R&G tail tidy, mini led indys inc flasher relay etc. Hopefully a weekend of fettling once I've done my weekly pwc of course ;)
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Post by: johnbow on July 03, 2013, 03:14:25 pm
Well I'm off to Ireland for the bike racing at midnight. First time I've put the bike on the ferry so I'm praying it doesn't get damaged on the way. Managed to hook up the sat nav to the bike and have insulated as many wires as possible. I'm praying it doesn't rain and fry me or my bike! I have zero mechanical knowledge but I do have a can do attitude and 300 zip ties! *grin*
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Post by: dkid413 on July 03, 2013, 03:16:06 pm
Be sure to post up pics :) Have a great time.
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Post by: fr499y on July 03, 2013, 03:17:34 pm
have fun and remember, PICS PICS PICS!
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Post by: johnbow on July 03, 2013, 03:23:15 pm
Have you seen my tank pics? Me and cameras aren't very compatible *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 03, 2013, 03:56:34 pm
Forget pictures, get a GoPro!!
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Post by: fr499y on July 04, 2013, 08:41:25 am
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Post by: johnbow on July 07, 2013, 06:31:52 pm
One of the lads had a helmet cam though I'm not sure if most of it is for public viewing! Done about 600 miles and saw some great road racing. I'm in rosslaire now waiting for the ferry. Should be home by 2am hopefully.
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 08, 2013, 10:49:12 am
I'll be reunited with my bike later. Not seen it for a few weeks! Hope it starts and isn't in a puddle of engine fluid.
Need to sort out the front tyre valve, it's a bit dodgy, tried a valve key on it, and Kyle offered to sort me out a new valve centre, but I may pop to the bike pace round the corner and just get a whole new valve fitted. Can't be too much I'd have thought, it's on the front wheel, don't need to take much off to do it.
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Post by: Kyle on July 10, 2013, 04:10:17 pm
I'd have done that :)
My dads just purchased a new bike, i'll get a pic later
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 10, 2013, 07:28:10 pm
Booked in at 10am, maximum £23 :)
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 12:05:46 am
Nearly forgot..... My dads new bike *applause* *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 12:07:56 am
No luggage space!!!
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 12:14:03 am
lol. He doesn't commute on it, just a weekend toy! unless its raining.
He only picked it up saturday gone, 120 miles on the clock so still to be run in.
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 12:28:12 am
Fair weather biker? :)
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 12:30:05 am
Wouldn't you be if you'd just put £13k into a toy :P
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 12:31:52 am
Bike I want is £13k, and it would be a bike for each and every day! Nice Pan :)
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 12:35:09 am
I must add he has to get that down a grass alley way which is not a good idea when its been/is raining. Did it once when he had his Ducati, not only was it sliding everywhere mud covered me, him and the bike. Not fun :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 12:41:03 am
I have to cross grass to my garage!
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 01:17:48 am
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 01:21:23 am
Slight slope, and it gets a bit wet and they don't cut it after October? :)
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Post by: Ronskijay on July 11, 2013, 01:24:15 am
Just seen this post being a biker myself ive got an o6 sv650 I do long commute s on motorways in rain of shine and my mpg is 60 .
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 01:28:21 am
Mine is a 650 Deauville, does similar to the gallon. Got it and my licence in December, but only managed 500 miles on it as there's been snow, dad's taxi or working away stopping me...
Annoying really! Had loads of opportunity last year!!
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 01:52:22 am
Slight slope, and it gets a bit wet and they don't cut it after October? :)
lol im not going to win this am i?
Leathers shrink in the rain ;)
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 02:18:27 am
Waterproof oversuit!
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Post by: fr499y on July 11, 2013, 09:38:39 am
EWWW A *Keeps Taking Money*!! had a 950SM which i loved, except it never worked... Just bought a speed triple, its going back today as the radiator is cracked :censored2: Can't beat my trusty steed though, XJR 1300. Big muscle bike, shed loads of power/torque and will do anything you throw at it. *applause*
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 10:07:20 am
Haha! Keeps Taking Money!! I like that!
Currently at the bike garage getting my valve done. Wonder what else they'll discover on it. I used to work on a service desk, I know they'll be looking for extras :)
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Post by: fr499y on July 11, 2013, 10:39:18 am
Currently at the bike garage getting my valve done. Wonder what else they'll discover on it. I used to work on a service desk, I know they'll be looking for extras :)
Well that's all they do, Take your money. I had my old KTM for roughly 3 months, it had to have carbs setup twice. had issues with it back firing and sending you deaf for a few hours when attempting to start it, Fuel pump didn't shut off and flooded the engine, engine died when you went to stop at lights, new clutch lever because the old one decided it wanted to snap for no reason, apart from that a lovely bike lol. I can see them being a good power ranger/Sunday rider/never ride in Britain as its never sunny type of bike, but as an all rounder there as bad as ducati's ( don't get me started on them, mine was just as bad as the :censored2: KTM!! )
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 11:02:30 am
You must just be unlucky.
He always had Ducat's before he went to KTM and very nearly splashed out on the new Panagale. He never had a problem. Infact he owned his last Ducati 7 years and serviced it once in that time and never had the cam belts done once which are recommended every 3 years.
Before this new one he had a 10 plate version of that and he never had an issue with that either. They are new bikes though which is all he buys now as soon as the warranty runs out he chops them in for a brand new one like he does with his cars. Suppose thats a slight peace of mind. Would be nice just to have the money to throw at something that is just a weekend toy lol.
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Post by: dkid413 on July 11, 2013, 11:17:11 am
They are new bikes though which is all he buys now as soon as the warranty runs out he chops them in.
His last Ducati had a 7 year warranty??
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Post by: fr499y on July 11, 2013, 11:23:59 am
I think the problem with the Ducati was that i used my bike all year round, and they are just not build for our weather. The slightest bit of salt and thats it. I'd still have a Ducati over a KTM though *grin*
This is what my 2 look like at the moment. Well the triumph is going in today so i'll be without for a bit :(
Full Akrapovic 4-1 on the xjr and SP Engineering big bore carbon stubbies on the triple.
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 11:55:29 am
They are new bikes though which is all he buys now as soon as the warranty runs out he chops them in.
His last Ducati had a 7 year warranty??
No lol I meant his KTM's
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 04:41:46 pm
Got my tyre done, was the valve centre in the end. £17 all in. Bit expensive, but if it's not that after all, I now have some comeback :)
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 05:12:00 pm
You know how much I would have charged you for a valve centre :P £0
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 11, 2013, 05:14:12 pm
I know, and I could have bought one for not a lot if I'd needed to, but you're quite a ride away, and your boss wouldn't have let you take my tyre off to change my valve if it wasn't the centre!! And knowing my luck, it would have never inflated after that to get me home!!! :)
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Post by: Kyle on July 11, 2013, 07:28:10 pm
You'd of got home. I've yet to be beaten by a tyre. 25" tyres, 20 profile tyres that are stretched on. Alot of people just give up not me :P
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 12, 2013, 10:37:26 am
Just seen this thread, thought I'd say hello. I've currently got a GSXR 750 K5, been riding for about 15 years and have owned (in no particular order) a hornet, sp1 (with full arrow system and power commander) kwak gt550, zx6r x2, zx9r x 1 and a couple of zx12rs. When I lived in London I used to get to and camp over at a lot of the circuit racing (BSB/WSB/MotoGP) now I'm over in Belfast it's road racing now.
Heading up the west coast of Scotland in a couple of weeks on the bike,really looking forward to it!
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 12, 2013, 03:01:17 pm
*wwopix*
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Post by: nikkikenney on July 12, 2013, 03:14:55 pm
These are pics of my husband's although one he has just sold. I used to go out on a tourer with him but haven't for ages and I don't think I can get into my leathers now! He loves his bikes especially Yamaha and he used to be a mechanic for outfits back in the day. I know nothing about bikes except I like to drool over the men in gear that ride them. *grin* Oh and the thing I hate about bikers at times is that around my country roads they race each other all the time at stupid fast speeds, I know it's fun but stay safe you riders (guys and gals). *cheers*
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Post by: falcorob on July 12, 2013, 05:09:15 pm
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 12, 2013, 05:11:31 pm
Love the Tiger!!
I'd love a Triumph. Might look for something fully faired and has luggage further down the loine. Any bike I have would need to be an all year, all weather bike.
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Post by: johnbow on July 12, 2013, 11:05:21 pm
Had a guy on the Ireland trip with us with a triumph 675,sounded fantastic. Go on,you know you want to. *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 12, 2013, 11:06:55 pm
When I was younger I always fancied the Daytona!
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 14, 2013, 07:23:45 pm
My Gixxer 750
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 12:36:49 pm
Is it a fashion faux pas to wear Lambretta jeans while riding a Honda Deauville? I don't know, a friend reckons I'm just showing people what I'd rather be riding...
Discuss... :)
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Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 07:16:11 pm
I'm not a motorbike man yet but got my cbt this Sunday followed by my first big bike lesson the Sunday after cant wait
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Post by: johnbow on July 15, 2013, 08:07:28 pm
thumbsup Good luck on your cbt! It was a lot easier when I did my test years ago but it's worth all the effort when you pass. I can honestly say it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. Just got back from Ireland with a group of 15 others,we had a great time.
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 15, 2013, 08:17:54 pm
Aye, good luck withthe CBT!
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 08:34:13 pm
Good luck with the CBT. You master the skills in a safe area, the road bit is that and common sense!!
Your most important thing is your eyes!! Anticipate everything!! I learned more about driving on my first CBT in '04 than I did riding a bike as it really improves your awareness.
We expect an update afterwards :)
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Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 09:21:56 pm
I will update after Im do nervous about getting on a bike though ha ha
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 09:24:40 pm
Once you've done a couple of laps and a manoeuvre, you'll wonder what the fuss was about. You're demonstrating you can do things safely rather than well. Doesn't matter if you cock it up, cock it up safely away from danger :)
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Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 09:28:36 pm
I suppose your right they said it was best to do it on a geared bike ready for the lessons the following week all being well I couldn't believe how expensive the hole thing is going to be :O keep looking at the Harley garage and realising its all worth it
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 09:35:22 pm
The what garage?! Not sure bike riding is for you after all :-)
It's worth doing a geared bike, like it is taking your car test on a manual. You have the option to ride what you like then, even a Harley!!
Thing I found with insurance - for when you pass, I'm not sure of your age, but I'm 37, I had a 125 8 years prior, not ridden a bike in the interim, and with no NCD, the limiting factor to the bike I was going to buy was the value of the bike, not the cc, that's based on looking at tourers, not race bikes though. Worth comparing a few makes/models and prices before you go shopping, so when you pass, maybe worth hacking around on a cheap vfr or something for a bit until you get some NCD, then the insurace won't be so bad.
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 15, 2013, 09:37:08 pm
I got a far bigger buzz passing my bike test than I did passing my car test!
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Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 09:47:42 pm
Yea I know there a taboo subject in general I'm only 22 so it makes it even more so but I'm not in to sorts bike I do like the bobber style triumphs as well ( watch way to much American telly) breather of them would be a straight away bike though to much money also I would have to have a bike limited to 46 Bhp untill I was 24 any suggestions ?
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 09:54:18 pm
I'd have to hand over to others for that. Think the GS500 is 45hp, and there's a good chance you'll learn on one. Think you'll be looking around the 500ccish mark for now. Forgot they changed the rules for u24yo.
I quite like the riding position of the Honda non-sports bikes. I have a Deauville 650, great bike, but that's 64hp, so it'd be too much, although you could look to getting a bigger bike restricted.
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 15, 2013, 09:56:30 pm
After I passed my test I bought an old shaft drive gt550, rode her rain, sun and occasionally hail. My riding came on no end.
Personally I'd get a restricted hornet or bandit. Good size of bike, easy to restrict/unrestrict and there are plenty about. I've also never heard a bad word about the sv650 as a first big bike. I prefer an inline 4 tbh tho, but that's just me
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:01:50 pm
I've only ridden a CG125 and a Deauville 650. Went out on the Deau this evening in the cool breeze. Awesome ride, nice curves in the road, enough to keep the speed and not have to worry about the line or think too much about it.
When you get your helmet though, I thoroughly recommend one with a second internal tinted visor you can flip down. Helps if you're in and out of the shade on a sunny day, and on a hot day like this, when you're doing below 60, it lets cool air in the helmet and the wind out of your eyes.
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Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 10:08:46 pm
Yea it is a gs500 I will learn on been buying abit of kit at the moment and I was thinking while drivin the car today about what you do when it's bright so that's goo advice about the visor thanks :) has anybody got a Kevlar hoodie or jeans ? All I have brought so far is a pair of gloves. And have a leather jacket from my girlfriends dad any advice on brands would be aprichiated
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:15:55 pm
I bought Frank Thomas kit from J&S Accessories. It's not the best, but it's CE aproved armour in it, and it's textile. In this weather, probably look for well ventilated stuff, mine is a weatherproof jacket (and I have the trousers), and I can remove the lining, but I was cooking earlier. I don't have any protective jeans, and in this weather for local journeys, I;m not wearing the trousers, just normal jeans, never tried "biking" jeans or kevlar based stuff.
It all adds up pretty quick, but do look round for good comfortable stuff. Consider that you sit on the bike, and toursers ride up if you want legs that will cover your boots etc. If you can sit on a bike in the clothes shop, try to do that. Buy cheap buy twice they say, I think I'm glad I bought cheap (jacket and trousers were £80+£80), as I will probably need to buy a lighter/more ventilated jacket for the heat. I've seen so many people in Tshirt ad shorts, and it's crazy, imagine the gravel.... I'd rather ride with protection. If I go a long distance this summer, I'll take the lining out my trousers and/or wear short underneath, but I want that padding on the joints really.
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Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 10:19:11 pm
I like the looks of the Kevlar stuff just because it look ventilated and light the jeans are the ones that reli take me as I do t want to where leather trousers but want more protection then jeans
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:20:41 pm
You got any links to what you're looking at?
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:20:59 pm
Where you based by the way?
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 15, 2013, 10:21:39 pm
I've got 2 piece Furygan leathers mate, go with what you can best afford. I got my first jacket and helmet from J and S. if you're looking for value for money and a good quality helmet, it's hard to get better than HJC helmets. Hein Gericke stock them.
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Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 10:23:21 pm
Nottingham where are you ? Non of my friends ride bikes which is a bit boring so was thinking of joining a club my girlfriends mum and dad ride but my parents as so agenst bikes so it's a seacret from them ha
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:24:53 pm
You learning with Roadcraft? I'm in Leeds, not too far away, but too far to show you round the shops here!!
My parents never wanted me to have a bike, but I got one anyway when I was 28.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:26:34 pm
These guys have some pretty good You Tube content that will help you along: http://www.youtube.com/user/RoadcraftNottingham
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 10:30:08 pm
I'm learning with bike torque as they said yet will do me lessons every Sunday morning as I work for my dad and only have Sunday off so can't have ever sat off or he will be suspicious ha ha I think when I pass I will ride up for a meet ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:32:30 pm
Sounds good to me! Assuming I'm in the country at that point!! :) When do you envisage taking your test?
I guess you'll find out after your CBT, they normally sus out how many days you need from there. Show a 6th sense and a quick uptake on skill, they may sort you out in anywhere as little as 2 full days of training.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:32:54 pm
Do look at Roadcraft's videos though. They guy knows his shit.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 10:34:42 pm
I will do got to get the bike theory test book as well this weekend so I can get it done ASAP
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 15, 2013, 10:41:54 pm
Get a practice DVD too, although do all the free online ones first for the hazard nonsense.
Saying that, at the age of 22, you'll have done a theory before too long ago so it'll be fresh. Didn't have the theory test when I learned to drive. Hazard test to me is a load of bollocks as it really isn't representative of anything.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 15, 2013, 11:53:33 pm
Just downloaded the aa motorbike theory test app it's common sense the only things I'm getting wrong are the bike operation questions such as which break to use when the rest is the same as a car just a lot of common sense and the green cross code
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 16, 2013, 12:01:18 am
I did the theory questions online on the DSA website before I got any reading material and only got one wring. Your instructor will cover maintenance and checks on the CBT and each lesson.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 16, 2013, 12:02:04 am
If you were nearer you could have practiced on my bike between lessons.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 16, 2013, 12:07:41 am
Think I'm haut going to do the theory in a few weeks get some experience first :) my girlfriends mum picks up a Harley 883 tomorrow might be able to steel that when I pass he he
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 16, 2013, 12:27:10 am
You reckon? :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 16, 2013, 06:37:14 am
Yea there quite relaxed with things like that lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 16, 2013, 07:50:00 am
Ever had a bell or shark helmet ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 16, 2013, 09:18:07 am
Can't say I have. Isn't the former for diving?! ;)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 16, 2013, 09:30:23 am
My first helmet was a Bell. They're an American brand, used to be huge in the 70s
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 16, 2013, 09:33:56 am
Damn! My blunt wit falls scattered across the desert! :)
The only two helmets I've tried were ixs and caberg. I've got the Caberg now, it's a V2, but they've discontinued it. I'd have another. I'm thinking of trying a flip-face next time as I'll probably change this one come the winter as it's getting a bit old now. Love to find a helmet that doesn't have wind noise, but I suspect I'm not going to get that with a flip.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 16, 2013, 09:52:49 am
:-D:-D
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 16, 2013, 10:51:43 am
MOT passed..woo hoo!
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 16, 2013, 12:48:08 pm
I would like this one (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/16/e5ymu8e3.jpg)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 16, 2013, 01:32:16 pm
Crikey. You'd need a German wartime bike and sidecar for that! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 16, 2013, 01:52:32 pm
I appreciate it looks cool mate,but honestly, to save your face, stick to a full face helmet
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 16, 2013, 04:12:28 pm
Yup, i'm even a bit funny when it comes to flip front even though i own one..
Shark S900 are good helmets, some models tend to be a bit noisy, but they are a lovely fit.
KBC VR2/TK8-9 are good, again bit noisy but are a good fit, sizes do come up a tad big ( I have a XS helmet with XXS padding and its too big still! )
Scorpion are brilliant helmets. I use a Exo 1000 Air as my touring helmet, so quiet and can expand the padding to fit :) XS is a perfect fit for me without blowing the padding up.
HJC personally I find the padding to be a bit on the thin side and they feel cheap to me, the one i have is noisy as hell, but it is a flip front which tend to be noisier.
There 4 i have tried
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 16, 2013, 04:58:25 pm
I noticed that Arai helmets are dead light compared to my Caberg...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 16, 2013, 05:27:06 pm
I've had the following : OGK FF4 - great fit, light, bit noisy but a class helmet. Not sure if they are still produced? HJC - used as a day to day helmet, was full face, not overly noisy, padding a bit thin. But well priced I've had 2 Arais - both were sumptuous, had that fresh new smell for months. But each were £500 and for some reason, I kept breaking the vents on them, maybe just my cack hands
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 16, 2013, 05:42:54 pm
How about this (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/17/etatynun.jpg)
It's a shark raw
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on July 16, 2013, 08:32:12 pm
I managed to get a shoei X-r 1000 online for £200. A plain one was more expensive! Mine was cheaper because it was in someone's old racing colours but exactly the same helmet. Not as expensive as an arai but nearly as good,though they don't seem to suit everyone's head shape. I tried mine on in a shop then got it online for half the price the shop wanted.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 16, 2013, 08:41:19 pm
What's a normal price to spend on a helmet ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 16, 2013, 08:43:55 pm
There isn't a normal amount. A £100 helmet that fits you well is better (safer) than a £600 that doesn't sit right.
Try loads on in the shop. Then buy the one that fits you best.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on July 16, 2013, 08:48:38 pm
There's no set amount but the idea is to get the best quality helmet you can afford and one that fits you properly. The best helmet isn't always the most expensive one but beware of really cheap helmets. Think about how much your brain is worth! I had a £60 Nolan once and it was terrifying to ride with it on. Very noisy and it would shake your head at 60mph. There wasn't much padding in it either and I was afraid my head would take the damage rather than the helmet in an accident.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 16, 2013, 08:57:57 pm
Right I'm going to go and look this weekend what's the other things I will need as I said earlier I like the Kevlar hoodies but bot sure how good they are agenst leathers
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 16, 2013, 10:58:34 pm
Top advice from Lurch and John
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 19, 2013, 05:37:26 pm
Had my cbt moved to this Sunday :O
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 19, 2013, 06:05:03 pm
Some weather for it!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 19, 2013, 09:46:29 pm
I know think it's going to be to warm for it surely. How fast dose a 125 go I haven't even ridden a 50 lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on July 19, 2013, 10:25:41 pm
75 at a push! Depends what it is. I was shocked at how much easier bigger bikes are to ride than smaller ones. Yes they go quicker but they have better brakes,are more stable and easier to hill start with! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 19, 2013, 10:27:04 pm
I don't no what to think yet might hate it on Sunday
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 19, 2013, 10:32:19 pm
You'll love it
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 19, 2013, 10:34:07 pm
My girlfriends dad says that as well keep looking at bikes for sale already
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 19, 2013, 10:44:36 pm
What are you looking at?
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 19, 2013, 11:03:49 pm
I like bobber style bikes
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 20, 2013, 07:16:39 pm
It'll be a blast!! Once you've done the car park training and got 10 minutes under your belt on the road, you'll be loving it!! All about observations and pre-empting other traffic.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 20, 2013, 08:16:06 pm
I'm looking forward to it now brought some gloves
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 20, 2013, 08:17:10 pm
That's it! You're committed now!! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 20, 2013, 08:31:48 pm
Helmet next then we are committed or £200 down the drain
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 20, 2013, 08:36:07 pm
It will be absolutely fine, you'll learn plenty about car driving tomorrow too, it's a winner both ways. You can then ride a bike, and you'll be a better car driver too.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 20, 2013, 08:40:05 pm
:) it's actualm been very useful talking to you lot as my mum and dad don't know I'm doing it so can't talk to them
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 20, 2013, 08:42:53 pm
So you're doing your full bike test, and you will own a bike. You'll have to tell them at some point!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 20, 2013, 09:41:56 pm
No I won't ha it's going to live at my girlfriend with her dads bikes ha ha
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 20, 2013, 09:46:54 pm
Hahaha, it took a few weeks for me to tell my folks I'd passed ny test
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 20, 2013, 10:09:23 pm
I'm just not going to tell tem untill I leave home
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 20, 2013, 10:10:22 pm
Lol
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 20, 2013, 10:12:57 pm
You're best telling them. If you should have an accident, they will know.
Plus your driving licence will come back to your family home!!!
Mine were against me having a bike when I was young, they weren't chuffed with my 125 in '04, and would rather I hadn't done my full licence, but they also accepted I'm a grown person and I am able to make my own decisions. Your parents should accept this too, and I imagine they will. Maybe surprise them with your pass certificate after your mod2 :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 21, 2013, 09:59:44 am
Ha ha we will see just sat waiting for the instructor to arrive and I see the sun has disappeared and a hazy rain has arrived typical
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 21, 2013, 10:35:45 am
Enjoy the day
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 21, 2013, 10:37:30 am
I imagine he'll be well on with it by now! Normally start 8/9am. Might get a status report at lunch break if he's got Tapatalk!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 21, 2013, 10:39:56 am
With photo updates
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 21, 2013, 10:43:20 am
Sincerely hope that he's not taking photos while riding!!! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 21, 2013, 10:45:23 am
Rain?! Of dear! Mind the metal manhole covers when cornering then!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 21, 2013, 10:46:03 am
Where did Dan's reply go about waiting for the teacher, presumably apple in hand? :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 21, 2013, 01:32:05 pm
So half way through the day and got the hang of the bike now it's all abit alien to strut with but enjoying myself now got the toad ride after dinner then that's it
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 21, 2013, 01:47:50 pm
Pics!
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 21, 2013, 03:08:23 pm
Think I'm going to buy the shark raw helmet what's people's opinions of it ?
get a full face helmet, simple :P
*agree*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 08:41:56 pm
Anybody know what bikes are below 93.2 Bhp ha cruiser style bikes
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 22, 2013, 08:43:52 pm
Congratulations!!
93hp? You couldn't ride that straight off could you?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 08:49:46 pm
No but it's the biggest bike I would be allowed to limit as you can't have the original power more then double 46.6 Bhp which is what you can ride and obvs not many cruisers that low only thing I have found is a Honda vt 750 which would take a lot of work to get to what I want
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 22, 2013, 09:01:10 pm
I'm pretty sure you're limited to 25 or 33hp, it's officially in kW now, but my bike is 64hp, and couldn't be ridden on a restricted licence. 93hp is a lot for a bike, think about power to weight, it's going to have more get up and go than a ferrari!!
Double check the rules, but I'd say you'll be limited to around a 500cc bike as a maximum. Or bigger if restricted, but there's rule on power to weight, and the bike's original power to weight as well.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 22, 2013, 10:12:31 pm
Is it not 33bhp for 2 years? Unless you do the 5 day direct access, where you pass on a 500cc and can then ride anything you want? Or has that been scrapped?
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 22, 2013, 10:13:27 pm
the 33 for 2 years has changed.. theres like 3 or 4 types of restrictions now depending on age/test you take..
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 22, 2013, 10:16:25 pm
Not surprised, I'm basing that on completing my direct access in 1998! Do they even still have direct access?
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 22, 2013, 10:18:03 pm
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 22, 2013, 10:25:33 pm
The loose nutshell is, DA used to be 21+, now it's 24+ from how I understood it.
I did mine in December before the changes, but if I'd left it later, I'd have still been OK.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 10:31:38 pm
Basically da is 24 like you say but you can take it at 21 if you do your a2 ( restricted to 46 Bhp) at 19 so have had your a2 for 2 years and you hen have to compleat a second test. It's deffonetly right asked 5 shops 2 instructors and a copper lol also expanse it Badley on te gov website so I will be able to have up to 46.6 Bhp insurance depending and restricted providing the bike has no mate then double that to start with so 93.2 Bhp. And then I would have to do another practical when I turn 24 in 18 months so I can have anything I like then gain insurance depending
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 10:32:51 pm
It all changed this January
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 22, 2013, 10:43:29 pm
I'm with you now for the 93hp.
So what age can you do a test then you automatically upgrade to a full licence? Or has that gone now too?
I could open that link, but I'm on my phone and most websites are a PITA :)
Back to what powered bikes, I guess that not many cruisers will be that high powered. Horse power is about how quickly you can accellerate, for cruising, torque is where it's at, not horse power. My bike is 64hp, not a huge lot, but I don't have to change down for many hills.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 22, 2013, 10:55:34 pm
most v-twins will be lower HP but higher torque ;) and as far as i know there is no limit on the torque you can have. Any 650/750cc v-twin should pack a nice punch without being too high in HP.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 22, 2013, 11:00:45 pm
Sv650
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 11:04:30 pm
I reli want a Harley Davidson 883 iron but bit mug money
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 11:05:42 pm
*much
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 11:06:21 pm
And do you know where to find somewhere with info on bobber builds ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 22, 2013, 11:11:16 pm
IMHO you're far better getting a cheap sv650/bandit etc and learning to ride it properly, than running straight out to get the bike of your dreams and it falling off its side stand 2 days later. Just my 2p's worth
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 22, 2013, 11:17:37 pm
I'm with Mr Boxer on this.
Something cheap and affordable, get the experience. If you want a cruiser, don't get a Harley for starters, there will be others out there (not familiar with an cruisers bar the Marauder (huge engine)), so if you don't want a normal bike, get a Harley-esque, but an SV650 or even something like my Deauville for starters. Can get a Deau like mine for £1000-£1500. Cheap to insure too.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 11:23:58 pm
Yea it's not going to happen to big of an engine for me what's the bike you have ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 11:28:24 pm
I have considered this not quite what I want but a bit of paint and difdernt seat would be good only a 125 though
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 22, 2013, 11:34:32 pm
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/23/a3e8yvyv.jpg)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 22, 2013, 11:49:33 pm
I've seen them before. Learner legal too I think.
Mine is a Honda Deauville NTV 650. It's a 1999 NT650VX to be precise.
Have a play on Go Compare with insurances too. You'll find bike value is more limiting than anything else you could do.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 23, 2013, 08:43:30 am
Is that the best place to look ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 23, 2013, 08:46:10 am
as said i wouldn't get a hardly ableson. If you want a cruiser, why don't you look for something like the hyosung GV250 or GV650 ? the 250 are like 25BHP and the 650 are 80BHP so within that 93BHP limit :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 23, 2013, 09:03:12 am
How about a Kawasaki W650? very retro, Japanese reliability, 50bhp, looks cool as fuck! (although more cafe racer than cruiser, granted) plus its easy to ride
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 23, 2013, 09:05:03 am
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 23, 2013, 09:30:02 am
That's nice looks like a Bonney
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 23, 2013, 09:36:47 am
Yeah, that's what Kawasaki designed it round
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 23, 2013, 09:50:30 am
Forget the w650, they are holding their money ridiculously well
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 23, 2013, 10:00:53 am
The W650 is a nice looking bike!!
How do you restrict a bike anyway? That is beyond taking it to a garage that does it for you?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 23, 2013, 10:08:28 am
On older bikes you can restrict the air intake, by putting a spacer in to limit the air flow. Newer bikes it can be done electronically. I've even seen plastic locks on the throttle which limit how far you can twist it, although I'm not sure they'd stand up as an official medium for restricting a bike
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 23, 2013, 10:11:09 am
I've heard about restricted fireblades in the past, which is why I'm presuming they brought in changes to the law
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 23, 2013, 10:12:00 am
I can see how the airflow one works, but how much you can open the throttle surely only affects speed not power?!
I guess as long as you have a certificate, then it's fine. Wonder how many people remove the restrictions when they get the bike home?! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 23, 2013, 10:22:05 am
The throttle limiter would affect power, my gixxer 750 would produce 135bhp approximately with the throttle wide open. if the throttle is only opened a quarter, the engine is only producing say 40bhp for the sake of discussion. Therefore limiting the bhp. Depends also on power delivery, engine layout etc
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 23, 2013, 10:42:24 am
Just a thought looking at the weather Dan - you got any wateerproof trousers? I've got my old Akito Cougar trousers here that I don't use any more. I'm a 32" waist and a 34" leg, and they're a tad on the short side for me - not massively though. If you wanted them, you could have them for postage and a small donation. They were £70 trousers, got knee protection too. Think they have a bit of mud spatter on the ankles, but I'm sure I can clean that off. Should keep your legs dry for your lessons.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 23, 2013, 03:31:25 pm
The throttle limiter would affect power, my gixxer 750 would produce 135bhp approximately with the throttle wide open. if the throttle is only opened a quarter, the engine is only producing say 40bhp for the sake of discussion. Therefore limiting the bhp. Depends also on power delivery, engine layout etc
throttle restrictor will only restrict how far you can twist the throttle, which in turn will take longer to rev, which wont restrict the bike. The bike will still be producing the same power. Washers work on carbed bikes by reducing the size of the inlet, less air/fuel = less power. For fuel injection bikes its all done on the ECU. It can also be done with a power commander and mapping.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 23, 2013, 03:37:03 pm
I stand corrected, apologies.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 23, 2013, 03:40:45 pm
think of it like swapping from a standard throttle to a 1/4 turn or to a 1/6th turn, it wont give you any more power, but make it more of a handful to ride :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 24, 2013, 08:46:21 pm
I wish mine had another gear so I don't have to hold the throttle so far open on the motorway :)
I could just adjust my grip, but I only remember after it has been uncomfortable for a while!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Dan-w on July 25, 2013, 06:45:35 am
Can't you just change the throttle to one with a shorter twist ?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 25, 2013, 09:36:28 am
Not sure you can. I could probably also stop moaning and ride my bike properly :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on July 25, 2013, 11:07:59 am
I'm sure I read about some throttle clip you can use for motorway riding to hold it open,not sure if I'd fancy using it though!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 25, 2013, 11:14:38 am
Biking trip to Scotland tomorrow lads! Tyre pressures sorted, chain oiled, panniers yet to be packed!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on July 25, 2013, 11:20:18 am
Biking trip to Scotland tomorrow lads! Tyre pressures sorted, chain oiled, panniers yet to be packed!
I'm really jealous,I'm still buzzing after my Ireland trip! Don't know what part your going to buy there are some cracking roads around Loch Lomond.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 25, 2013, 11:21:58 am
Not sure I like the sound of wedging the taps open!! :)
Off to Scotland eh? Hopefully should be nice for it!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 25, 2013, 11:27:03 am
Heading to Oban, via stirling. Then based in oban for the week, but will be heading up to Fort William, Glenfinnan etc
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 25, 2013, 12:09:57 pm
nice! im buggered, got no working bikes, NTV is in bits, xjr being serviced and the triple is just a problem
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 25, 2013, 02:05:21 pm
Oops! You don't have any transport then I take it?
I have my tank breather pipe arriving early next week so I can finally fill my tank to the brim and not risk it over flowing on to the exhaust :)
Thinking of taking my bike back to Jordan's for a professional opinion on its general condition, just for peace of mind really. God knows what they'll charge for it...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 25, 2013, 04:14:09 pm
using my triple but its leaking oil out the engine which is burning as it hits the exhaust. plus a nasty rattle, need a bike for transport so i've got to risk it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on July 25, 2013, 05:26:37 pm
Oh dear. Any ideas where the leak is?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on July 25, 2013, 05:50:14 pm
engine *blink*
Its coming from one of the side cases, need to have a look but not got the time/money atm lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on July 25, 2013, 08:36:59 pm
I wish mine had another gear so I don't have to hold the throttle so far open on the motorway :)
I could just adjust my grip, but I only remember after it has been uncomfortable for a while!!
Look up homemade motorcycle throttle lock on you tube(sorry I don't know how to show the link on iPad). I'ts basically a tie wrap strategically cut to a certain length so it rests on the brake lever holding the throttl open.
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 25, 2013, 10:57:36 pm
What's your user name on there, or video title?
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Post by: johnbow on July 25, 2013, 11:05:49 pm
The guy that posted it is called Karl knapp
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Post by: fr499y on July 26, 2013, 03:34:50 pm
our NTV just failed its mot because the throttle sticks, apparently there is no such thing as *cruise control* on a 1994 bike roflmao well it was worth a shot !
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 26, 2013, 03:44:14 pm
Oh dear! Just can't talk your way out of somethings!!
Some AC50 required down the cable, or sticky grip?
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 26, 2013, 03:54:04 pm
While I'm here, I'm after a top box with mounting kit for my bike. Looking for the double helmet sized box. Seen one new from the Honda spares place I use for about £130, but if I can get something second hand from a forum, it's better for me and the seller.
Bike is a 1999 Honda Deauville 650.
Cheers!
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 26, 2013, 09:23:25 pm
Arrived in Caledonia
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 26, 2013, 11:03:47 pm
Did you take the Express?! (I'll fetch my coat...) :)
Looks a nice day for it anyway! How much further you got to go?
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Post by: fr499y on July 27, 2013, 04:58:24 pm
Oh dear! Just can't talk your way out of somethings!!
Some AC50 required down the cable, or sticky grip?
New throttle and switch gear, was all shot lol
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 27, 2013, 07:17:05 pm
Expensive?
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on July 27, 2013, 07:27:14 pm
Biking bliss today lads, road from Stirling to Oban.
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 28, 2013, 02:41:34 am
Looks nice. Hope the weather that's across the country, particularly the M62 corridor from immediate experience, doesn't make it all the way up there!
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Post by: fr499y on July 28, 2013, 09:09:14 pm
nicee!
No lurch, about £20 for that, XJR had it service and the triple is all good again! now i got 3 to choose from lol
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Post by: Dan-w on July 28, 2013, 10:24:57 pm
So I have been thinking and have stopped doing lessons for now untill I am 24 still going to et a bike but jut a 125 for the time being so that I only have to do he test once
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 28, 2013, 11:40:04 pm
That makes sense. Tests and training add up.
Get a 125, learn the roads, learn your observations, avoid bad habits etc, you'll be sorted, plus you'll build an NCD.
You won't be able to use motorways or take passengers, so you won't be coming to Leeds without taking the long way round!! :) But - you will get 150mph depending what you get!!!
Yamaha were doing an offer on a YBR125, finance it over 2 years, and they'd do the insurance for you for the first year. Bike was about £2300, so £100 a month, but included your first year's insurance which I guess will be about £200, well, 3rd party it will be I think.
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 28, 2013, 11:45:03 pm
Been looking in to my top box issue, a guy on the Deauville forum has a genuine Honda top box that I can have, £75 + £12 postage, and it's red, just not sure if it's quite the same red as mine, but I'm not that fussed. The mounting kit is going to be £55+£5 postage, makes it a tad dearer than buying the full genuine Honda shebang from Silvers, but theirs is black, and they can't guarantee delivery in a sensible time for the box.
Little dilemma there, rather spend my money with someone on a forum, but for a box that may be a different shade, or spend it with a company and get a new but black box.
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Post by: paulca on July 29, 2013, 08:13:07 am
Hey guys, fellow bikers.
I finally got my bike back from the workshop. It's been there since the second week in December when I discovered someone had tried to knick it. Stripped ignition barrel, shorted CDI unit, some "left unused over winter" damage.
She lives!
Kwak KLE-500 2007.
Going to take it to work today. She has some interesting vibrations and noises, but it always did, it's just that they evolve with the bike.
Was out on it yesterday and couldn't stop laughing at how sick it feels to open it up in 1st having been stuck in a 1.2 Clio for 7 months. Feeling the wheel try and lift as your powering up a bumpy little side road, over speed bumps which the bike couldn't care less about - priceless.
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Post by: fr499y on July 29, 2013, 11:11:24 am
damnit i miss my kle :( i had a 1994 with the GPZ 500 engine, full stainless exhaust etc. Went like stink :D I'll have to post a picture later
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 29, 2013, 11:14:03 am
I mamaged to get on mine today, not been able to for a couple of days as I put my back out. Also discovered the signs of it hitting the reserve!! At least I now know I can switch the tap while riding!
Is it time for me to get a second bike?! :)
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Post by: fr499y on July 29, 2013, 11:16:40 am
want an old NTV 650? *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 29, 2013, 11:48:22 am
I was thinking I might go for something outside the NT line somehow... :)
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Post by: fr499y on July 29, 2013, 12:04:25 pm
hehe, gotta sell the NTV if i want this DRZ we been offered. Can't afford 4 bikes ><
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Post by: paulca on July 29, 2013, 12:58:15 pm
damnit i miss my kle :( i had a 1994 with the GPZ 500 engine, full stainless exhaust etc. Went like stink :D I'll have to post a picture later
I think it's still the same engine. Just with catalytic converter dropping it to only 46bhp. I think the engine is one of their 1000cc blocks cut in 2.
I have heard of London courier riders going through 2 bikes for one engine, so it's reliable apparently. Mine popped it's oil pump rotor though a few years back. £500 to split the engine, replace pump and rebuild :(
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 29, 2013, 01:09:26 pm
What's the NTV worth?
I was thinking I might look for an old Trophy 900 or something like that. Probably be a Triumph whatever. Always fancied a Daytona 575, though now having had a 650, something a bit pokier might be nice. Need to be cheap as a local hack though,
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Post by: fr499y on July 29, 2013, 07:16:51 pm
not sure tbf somewhere around the 600 mark give or take i should think. ( for ours ) if it was the NTV 650 Bros it would be worth a couple grand!! only major difference is the bros has chain drive and slightly different tune :S
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Post by: lurch1000 on July 29, 2013, 07:28:02 pm
Can't knock it for £600 though.
Good bikes, solid engines.
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Post by: fr499y on July 29, 2013, 07:31:42 pm
damnit i miss my kle :( i had a 1994 with the GPZ 500 engine, full stainless exhaust etc. Went like stink :D I'll have to post a picture later
I think it's still the same engine. Just with catalytic converter dropping it to only 46bhp. I think the engine is one of their 1000cc blocks cut in 2.
I have heard of London courier riders going through 2 bikes for one engine, so it's reliable apparently. Mine popped it's oil pump rotor though a few years back. £500 to split the engine, replace pump and rebuild :(
The GPZ had 60bhp and 10% longer camshafts than the KLE500, and theres no drop in power above the 6-8k mark :) This was my old one. Excuse the paint on frame/engine Hamerite came in handy for them!
I done a 300 mile round trip, 2 up on it without any issues, well apart from someone cutting across a 4 lane roundabout that some how missed us. Cracking bikes, would love to get another for winter!
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 01, 2013, 11:02:00 am
Little Lurch getting some practice in!! Wanted to see how far she was off her feet reaching the rear pegs. Quite a way it seems :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 02, 2013, 10:37:08 am
Swapped over my thin pannier lids for fat ones last night. Bit of luck the top box will arrive today then I'm set to luggage up!! :)
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Post by: fr499y on August 02, 2013, 03:53:25 pm
woohoo!! has your year got the straight through boxes so you can poke a poster from one pannier into the other?
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 02, 2013, 04:23:57 pm
Nope, I should be so lucky, not that I carry many posters mind you!!
I'll post a pic in a minute.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 02, 2013, 04:44:37 pm
Bike with fat lids and a fat box!! Photo at the bottom for comparison to thin lids.
Oh, and junior biker!!
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Post by: paulca on August 02, 2013, 06:56:21 pm
Anyone any ideas?
Bike came back from the mechanic with a working headlight. First day I took it to work bulb went when I started the bike to come home. Replaced the bulb, having been ripped off for a £10 by Halfrauds. Bulb worked fine. Took bike to work today, bulb blown again halfway to work.
Did I just get unlucky? Anything anyone can think of that would cause a bike to eat bulbs?
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 02, 2013, 07:00:57 pm
I'm guessing it's the regulator.
You got a multimeter? You could check the charging voltage when giving it some revs, if it's more than 20% more than the nominal battery voltage, something is amiss. No idea about bikes, I'm assuming they have an alternator akin to a car, and it'll depend whether it has the voltage regulator attached to or built in to the alternator as to how much it'll cost.
Could be worth asking on a forum more specific to your bike.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 02, 2013, 07:06:00 pm
Sorry Paul, not to detract from your issue - but anyone got an inner bag to suit the Honda 45l top box they want to sell?
Or, anyone got a 45l Honda top box and know if it's the same size as the Pan European top box?
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on August 03, 2013, 08:08:39 pm
Home tomorrow,great trip, only soaked this morning!
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on August 03, 2013, 08:09:35 pm
Oban
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Post by: fr499y on August 07, 2013, 12:58:10 pm
Ugh im starting to get fed up with bikes. Bought a 4-1 part system to replace the full akrapovic ( i know.. sounds stupid! ) as i couldn't use panniers of any kind with the full akrapovic. Bloody thing doesn't fit properly no matter what you do :(
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 07, 2013, 01:07:34 pm
Sure they gave you the correct kit?
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 07, 2013, 01:24:49 pm
While I remember, been looking at Cargo nets, how safe is your stuff when you stop for a bathroom break at motorway services or fuel stops?
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Post by: johnbow on August 07, 2013, 08:52:40 pm
It's basically a net that goes over your gear and bungees clip it to the underneath of the rear seat. They do a great job on the move but it would take someone seconds to pinch your stuff at the services if left unattended.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 07, 2013, 09:00:49 pm
Reckon I may not need it after all, but I guess tossers are all around us.
Never had to load up before, got 12 days of clothes, some tools and PPE, plus my measuring kit, looks like it'll go in the two panniers and the top box. May have to take the tank bag as well, put things like my trainers in it, may cyclelock that to the grab rail though when I stop, no great value, not worth nicking, but stops an expensive-ish bag disappearing. Could put the helmet through the cyclelock too...
Take it nipping for a leak will only require steering lock if I park somewhere by the doors.
How's the exhaust doing? While I think of it, you're Northampton aren't you? Be probably stopping there 8.30-9am-ish Friday, well the services anyway,
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Post by: fr499y on August 07, 2013, 09:03:43 pm
what this friday? yeah im in Northampton, and got the exhaust sorted out! went for a 100 mile trip to there storage place and spoke to them, got a new bracket and bobs ya uncle, fannies ya aunt !
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 07, 2013, 09:07:13 pm
Yeah, heading to London, in the car I'd stop at Northampton services for a coffee and the bathroom. Odds of hitting the timings right fir coffee. on a Friday morning would be slim! Plus, it's definitely my round!!
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Post by: fr499y on August 07, 2013, 09:36:22 pm
lol. sadly i'd be working. Another time aye? *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 07, 2013, 09:51:29 pm
Sort something out!
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Post by: fr499y on August 07, 2013, 10:11:44 pm
jolly good! heres a motorcycle piccie! pipes all done and sound pretty darn good. Bit long and heavy for my liking though.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 07, 2013, 10:44:16 pm
Shiny!
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Post by: fr499y on August 07, 2013, 10:54:43 pm
Aye! only problem is, the downpipes are double walled standard chromed, but the conversion kit is 4-1 stainless, so i got shiny silver downpipes, going into shiny gold collector/link pipe into a shiny silver can with a purple spout rofl. Might have to get some stainless headers to match once i sell this shed load of bike parts i've collected over the years ( if only the Remus Grand Prix can would fit this link pipe :( )
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 20, 2013, 06:08:38 pm
Just back from my 440 mile trip to and about London for work, and the bike was great, bar the slight oil leak!
First tank was 59mpg, but was slow motorway driving, dropped down a lot for urban, and back up for faster motorway. Got a link to my fuel stats below, can click on the image for details.
Need to strip the bike soon to sort that leak out though.
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Post by: fr499y on August 22, 2013, 02:19:07 pm
sounds good. Got new can on the xjr now, the alloy one was too darn heavy and the vibrations it caused was too much. Sold the speed triple as well as more issues with it ( 3rd british bike, 3rd one with issues! )
Oh and found out the ntv we got has over 100,000 miles on the clock! so there good for a few miles *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 22, 2013, 02:21:03 pm
At least another 50k!
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on August 22, 2013, 02:30:02 pm
Haha, your ntv will go on forever!
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Post by: pippa1238 on August 22, 2013, 03:08:57 pm
I'm in need of a motorbike, so thought I'd canvas some opinion.
I did a CBT in 2004, and ran a 125 for nearly a year, but haven't (until today) been back on a bike for 7 years. Today was my CBT, and achieved it with flying colours. They also assessed me for my full licence, and decided I had enough ability and comfort on the road, I could do a 3 day course. Result! Saves some money :-)
So, I've done loads of theory practice and get between 48 and 50 all the time, I've also had a practice DVD for the Hazard Perception test, but that, while always a pass, could do with being better, so I've just ordered the DSA DVD for extra practice, and have my theory test booked for the 5th October.
Now, all being well, and they allow me a licence to ride anything out there, it's a case of what to get. I'm looking for a tourer with full fairings and heated grips (although the latter can be retro-fitted), around the 650cc mark, and around the £2000 price tag. I'd ideally also like to buy one with a 3 box set as it'll be cheaper than buying new (about £500 apparently).
The reason I'm looking for a bike with a 650 engine and at that price is purely insurance. Value has the biggest impact on insurance, followed by the cc to a much lesser extent. I'll be using the bike for long motorway journeys, so I need good mpg (hence a 650 over a 1000), and comfort - so fairings and heated grips for inclement weather is a must.
Any suggestions would be gratefully welcomed for a well priced bike with good mpg and a low insurance cost.
Thank you all!
D
As a "newbie" on this website, it would be fair to say that this post caught me somewhat unawares! I though it was some exotic fish strain that I had yet to discover!! *blink*
Good luck finding the right bike!!
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Post by: fr499y on August 22, 2013, 03:09:46 pm
yup, 80k this one had new gaskets as it was leaking oil ( according to the MOT DANGEROUS! rofl ) and its not unheard of them to do 200k without being rebuilt!
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on August 22, 2013, 03:12:52 pm
For reliability, zero maintenance, bar regular oil changes, I miss my gt550!
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 22, 2013, 03:14:38 pm
Haha! Not a fish I've heard of!! :) got the bike in november and the licence in december, been a good year since! Get a bike as well as the fish and come join in the thread regularly!! :)
I know the Deauville 650s are good for a minimum of 150k, often more, assumed the older NTVs wouldn't be much different, so put the conservative estimate on it!
Had to laugh the other night, was asking my daughter of she wanted a ride on the bike, in earshot of Mrs Lurch, so Little Lurch said "no, I'm too small", out of earshot she whispered "are we going to buy me a yellow helmet and a child seat and not tell mummy?". Made me chuckle!! :)
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Post by: pippa1238 on August 22, 2013, 03:23:15 pm
Haha! Not a fish I've heard of!! :) got the bike in november and the licence in december, been a good year since! Get a bike as well as the fish and come join in the thread regularly!! :)
I know the Deauville 650s are good for a minimum of 150k, often more, assumed the older NTVs wouldn't be much different, so put the conservative estimate on it!
Had to laugh the other night, was asking my daughter of she wanted a ride on the bike, in earshot of Mrs Lurch, so Little Lurch said "no, I'm too small", out of earshot she whispered "are we going to buy me a yellow helmet and a child seat and not tell mummy?". Made me chuckle!! :)
roflmao Subversive... bring down the parenting system from the inside :D So clever!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 22, 2013, 05:02:51 pm
Oh, absolutely :)
As a bike rider, I can never complain about her wanting to get on a bike or own one, but I can make sure that anything she has to do with a bike is done safely and properly.
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on August 23, 2013, 01:06:03 pm
I have twin girls, they're 5 and regularly ask when they'll be old enough to go for a spin on the bike,they also chose a punch bag when spending their birthday money! Lol
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 23, 2013, 03:28:17 pm
Haha! Did it remain popular?
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on August 23, 2013, 03:32:57 pm
Haha, yeah popular enough. They're not keen on 3 minute circuits tho.
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 04, 2013, 10:20:02 pm
I'm looking to upgrade my bike to a bigger tourer with decent sized detachable panniers.
Been looking at BMWs as a colleague has had them for years, although it seems they're not without their niggles, and some have a dry clutch, not a wet one and are a wear and tear item, and are £600 to change at an independent garage.
However, there is a guy who's stripped (and is halfway through reassembling) his K1100LT for a clean and service, and has lot of bills and knows the whole history of the bike (once it left the Police force), and wants £1800 for a 2001 bike with 67k on it. Seems awfully cheap considering I've seen a W reg for double that, and it was on the vcar register for an unstated reason. Trouble is I can't test ride it as I'm only insured for my bike. Bike is in Northampton. Wonder who I know there who has a bike and possibly cover for other bikes... ;)
Little undecided really. Other option is an ST1100.
Any thoughts or opinions?
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 04, 2013, 11:19:53 pm
While I think about it, what's the deal with parking a bike in Central London? Seen what looks like pedal bike rack behind Brook Street, would I get clobbered parking it there?
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Post by: Sacha on September 04, 2013, 11:45:39 pm
My friend has a bike and parks in central London all the time. Most streets have spaces marked "solo motorbikes only" or something like that. You pay by text, and it's £1 for 24 hours or something like that.
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on September 04, 2013, 11:48:23 pm
Which model of the pan European are you thinking?
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Post by: Sacha on September 04, 2013, 11:48:34 pm
If you go 5 minutes walk from brook st, near gt Portland street there are loads and loads of places to park your bike. On great Portland st and the surrounding roads
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 04, 2013, 11:51:24 pm
You have to pay as well?! Holy crap! Takes all the benefits out of biking!
I've found some parking for my following weekend's foray in to London, god bless streetview, just need to find somewhere to park close to Claridges. The marked car bays are permit only from what I can see. Edit for Sacha's post: I'll have a Google and see what gives. Cheers!
CB: at my budget, it'd be an ST11 I think, not sure the 13s come low enough for me. £2-3k I'm thinking of spending, I'll get £1-2k for mine, hopefully £1500+.
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Post by: fr499y on September 05, 2013, 07:16:09 am
Thought about looking at a FJR 1300? can pick them up pretty cheap for a 2000 ish year
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 05, 2013, 07:25:34 am
Only problem with them, according to the latest Ride article is that Yamaha's literature states that you can't have panniers and a top box, it's one or the other.
Also heard that the FJRs aren't as well built as the BM and the Pan. Read a review of R12RT v ST13 v FJR, and the FJR got panned (so to speak). Obviously it's the opinion of the journalist as to his preference. The main thing for me is that I can have all 3 boxes on it. The trouble with contravening the manufacturer recommendations is that it can void the insurance in the event of an accident. They are a very good looking bike though, never ridden one.
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Post by: paulca on September 05, 2013, 07:35:42 am
<rant> Found the issue with my headlights popping. Voltage regulator/rectifier is blown. I switched the remaining high beam on and reved the engine. It didn't get as far as 5k before the bulb went brilliant blue white and died.
Also made me realise the smell I had been smelling was not, as I thought, the new exhaust rust paint, but most likely the battery melting.
So I went to find a new reg. £75! WTF? A reg/rec is a standard/common bit of electronics that you'd find in almost anything these days. If you were buying components to make one, they would each cost pence! How in hell can they justify charging £75 for it? That's truely extortion.
I found a second hand one for £22 on ebay, but... due to his courier shipping and me being in Northern Ireland they want £12 to ship it. Email him and currently hoping he will post Royal Mail for me.
Also hope the battery isn't too bad. It looks okay, but I haven't taken the seat off to check it properly. Everything else electrical currently works. Fingers crossed as bike batteries aren't cheap either these days.
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on September 05, 2013, 08:05:05 am
£3k and youre looking for something to tour on and will take panniers and top box, I know the bike for you.......Honda Blackbird!
Friend of mine is on his 3rd. Fast, reliable, comfy, great 2 up (even better for the pillion with hard luggage)
Sorted!
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 05, 2013, 08:12:59 am
This picture shows it well loaded: http://www.newhorizonsbikehire.co.uk/img/honda-blackbird_800.jpg
However, it's not a true tourer, and unlikely to come with the luggage set which adds another £500 to the purchase price. It's not for a proper screen for weather protection, and iirc it's chain drive which involves more maintenance and running costs. Can't remember how long chains last, but it's not really that long. The BMs and Pans are all shaft drive and it's an egg cuyp of oil overy now and then to keep on top of them.
I'm an all year, all weather biker, bar dangerous conditions like ice, off to London tomorrow and they give heavy rain. I'll stay reasonably dry on the Deauville on the way down, and I have my plastic romper suit to make sure!
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on September 05, 2013, 08:22:34 am
Definitely more of a sports tourer, a well looked after chain can do 30k + miles. My mate rode his Blackbird all seasons as well
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 05, 2013, 08:38:46 am
To be fair, I've never tried a sports tourer, and it may suit, but I can't really afford to find out that it may be wrong, whereas a full on big tourer, I know will meet my needs.
I guess the trouble with any bike is that you don't know how it suits you until you've had it and put a good few miles on it.
Thinking about it, a VFR would do a similar job to the Blackbird, a well faired sports tourer, and can take luggage if the racks are fitted.
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on September 05, 2013, 08:57:09 am
You're going to find as well that a bike of that age and genre has more has more than likely got hard luggage already fitted, as a previous owner has bought her for the same reasons you have.
Ultimately tho, for the money you have, as long as you look around, you're going to find something that ticks all your boxes and has plenty of power on tap, should you require it
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 05, 2013, 10:24:04 am
I'll find something I'm sure. The Deauville is a weight bike at just shy of 250kg, as long as I've got something else weighty, should be fine for chewing the miles.
Just bought a new helmet - got the Nolan N91S in black. Not the colour I wanted, but it was a lot of dicking about and extra expense to get a lighter one.
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Post by: fr499y on September 09, 2013, 01:43:05 pm
Only problem with them, according to the latest Ride article is that Yamaha's literature states that you can't have panniers and a top box, it's one or the other.
Also heard that the FJRs aren't as well built as the BM and the Pan. Read a review of R12RT v ST13 v FJR, and the FJR got panned (so to speak). Obviously it's the opinion of the journalist as to his preference. The main thing for me is that I can have all 3 boxes on it. The trouble with contravening the manufacturer recommendations is that it can void the insurance in the event of an accident. They are a very good looking bike though, never ridden one.
My dads owned 2 of them both with panniers and top box, no issues with having both ( where they get that shit from? its a tourer after all!! ) The build quality is fine, paint is a bit thinner than the others, but the price tag is also a lot less than the bmw ( the big 6? ) I've ridden the 2011 and the brand new 2013 and they are cracking bikes, a hell lot lighter than the bmw and the pan, lot more usable for every day use, and just as smooth as the others. I think a lot of these reviewers have a favorite before they even begin to test them.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 09, 2013, 01:50:35 pm
You're probably right. It's impossible to be objective about a bike as one may be ergononmically better for one, but not the other.
I believe the top box/pannier thing is in black and white in the manual, and if so, if you have an accident with both, you risk insurance complications. Have to say the top box on my bike affects the aerodynamics a lot.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 09, 2013, 02:16:26 pm
Ahh yeah that's just there way of covering the fact that if you fit a top box then it becomes more unstable. Insurance shouldn't be an issue as most know its a tourer and there for expect them to have top-box/panniers :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 11, 2013, 11:29:26 am
This is a funny read!
http://rideapart.com/2013/09/becoming-a-biker
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 12, 2013, 08:44:15 pm
I can relate to most of that.
Rant time...
Heading from Taunton to London last night, came back M5/M4. Pissing with rain. Anyway, the rain I don't mind, night riding I don't mind, but with the two together, I'd rather just get on with it. So I get to the M4/M5 junction, get diverted on to the M4 west and I have to head to J22 (2 jcts in the wrong direction), so fine, get on with it. Get back to the intersection, and the through route is closed. Back on to M5 - South!! - for one jct, then divert through Bristol. Added a bloody hour to my journey.
The real problem was the signing. There was no advance warning for the closure, well, insufficient warning. There was an illuminated sign on the side of the motorway, but it was obscured by a truck and heavy spray at the time I passed. Tossers. Anyway, what was worse, there were no confirmations on the motorway diversion, and heading through Bristol, there were no confirmations or enough signs for the diversion. Luckily I know Bristol of sorts so made my own way through to the M32. Livid with the Highways Agency isn't the work. 40 odd miles extra and a whole hour is, quite frankly, taking the piss.
End of rant.
Begin "oops moment" story
Barreling to Taunton yesterday, got to within sight of J25 where I intended to exit, bike dies. Uh?! I'd done 155 miles, expected 175+ before needing the reserve. Pulled on to the shoulder thinking it was dead, decided to try the fuel reserve just in case and that sorted it. Wish I'd tried the tap as it died but I didn't think it would run out that early. However, looking back, I'd been going some, and I'd had a lot of buffeting from winds and dirty air from trucks the bike was fighting through, so kind of made sense. Guess I need to not be in so much of a hurry to do London to Taunton trouble free, or get a tail wind... :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 12, 2013, 09:56:48 pm
well why we are ranting and its to do with bikes..
Had a douche bag overtake me in a 30 today, he must of been doing 50MPH, its a 30 because its next to a park. as we turned the onto another road, the traffic was queuing up. I pulled up next to him, look at him and reved bike so he lowered his window and in a very panicky voice said *whats wrong?* to which i replied *Why the f**k was you driving like an absolute c**k overtaking in a 30? Its a 30 because there is a park, its not a 50! Just because your late doesn't give you the right to drive like an idiot* He soon started apolagising and driving a hell of a lot slower.. He must of thought i was cop with my glowing blue helmet lol!! his mate was laughing at him as well. People who drive like that really annoy me.. This was the third time this car has overtaken me down this road, driving recklessly in the mornings.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 12, 2013, 10:01:49 pm
What a dick.
I'll add to last night's rant.
The complete prick in a Range Rover that overtook me using half of my lane in doing so.
Not to stereotype, but anyone notices how all Rangies on the motorway appear to generally always be in the outside lane and doing at least 90mph?
Never understood the need to get there like your hair is on fire. Two Lambos left me for dead on the M4. Got to the end where it becomes the A4 and the traffic lights and urban stuff starts, and I was next to them at the next lights.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: vess on September 13, 2013, 12:08:31 am
The complete prick in a Range Rover that overtook me using half of my lane in doing so.
Not to stereotype, but anyone notices how all Rangies on the motorway appear to generally always be in the outside lane and doing at least 90mph?
Never understood the need to get there like your hair is on fire. Two Lambos left me for dead on the M4. Got to the end where it becomes the A4 and the traffic lights and urban stuff starts, and I was next to them at the next lights.
Oi ive got a rangie
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 13, 2013, 12:31:27 am
Wasn't you on the M4 last night was it ;)
Admittedly, not all do, but there's no denying that many obviously do sadly.
I've never understood (regardless of vehicle) the need to operate solely in one lane of the motorway, it's not how they're meant to work, hence the hold ups.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 13, 2013, 08:05:12 pm
Be careful out there if anyone is going out in this rain! back end slipped out twice on the xjr riding carefully. Roads are greasy as hell.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 13, 2013, 09:05:49 pm
Not bloody half. Well, not the slippery bit.
Just headed from Oxford Circus to Hayes, normally half an hour. 90 minutes it took! Deluge! Boots leaked, waterproof oversuit leaked, normal "aqua ride" trousers leaked, looked like I'd wet myself. And going out on the A4/M4 on a wide bike unable to get through some gaps is frustrating. Plus there were some un avoidable deep puddles, had to swing my legs up and almost wrap them round the headlight.
Not happy, not impressed.
I bought waterproof jacket and trousers, and waterproof boots, but just bought a waterproof overthingy as well. It has a flap to stop crotch water getting in, but it got in, however, the trousers should have been waterproof too. The boots were squelcing, and I'm seriously unimpressed.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 14, 2013, 03:20:09 pm
I didnt bother with water proofs at all yesturday, my phone was in a small plastic food bag in my leather jacket, only bit that got wet on me was the crotch.. darn leathers have stretchy fabric on the parts that move lol.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 14, 2013, 03:22:22 pm
I'm not sure why I bothered with waterproofs tbh!
Tomorrow will be good heading North in the rain and winds. Knee down to go straight!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 15, 2013, 07:37:40 am
Been there, done that, daily commute 5 days a week for 2 years, rain, hail, sleet or snow (it's Ireland, we don't get Sun). Waterproofs, well, aren't. Most gear I have owned is rain proof, but not standing water proof. The crotch leak is usually due to the puddle that forms between your legs, frequently standing up to clear it helps. Anywhere else you get a puddle, like in creases and folds of the jacket will let in too. Boots... do you have your trousers down inside the boot?
I have been told that if you want to ride for more than 30 minutes in proper heavy rain and be guaranteed leak free, you need to invest in a single piece "rumper suit" rain suit and rubber rain gloves and rubber over boots. You look like Mr. Blobby though.
The main problem I have these days in bad weather, asides the occasional crotch leak and the elbows where the jacket creases and the wind drives the rain in, is the helmet.
I have a breath deflector and a pin-loc insert. It still steams up in slow traffic. When you pop the visor open to clear, the rain that has been sitting on the top seal simply runs down the inside of the visor instantly ruining the pin-loc for the day and your vision of the rest of the ride. When it happened one night on a dark country road, rainy/foggy conditions I drove past the lay-by I hoped to stop in because I couldn't see it with the visor lighting up green from the indicator light on the dash.
I emailed Aria about it, they just said "This in the same visor system we use on our race helmets and nobody complains.". Yet if you look at the design closely you will see the top visor seal has a recess that forms a reservoir of water which can only go down the inside of the visor due to capillary action when you crack it open. How often do racers spend driving in heavy traffic at walking pace at 2*C with constant light rain on a Monday morning and have to crack open the visor to de-fog? I suspect not very often. For that mater, how many bikers would entertain rain for a start? It seems the vast majority are fair-weather riders only.
To be honest, I learnt the hard way that a bottom end Aria isn't really any better than a bottom of the range cheapo brand, maybe better materials and maybe some nice little features. I should have spend my £260 on a top of the range cheapo brand, like a Shark.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 16, 2013, 08:32:06 am
Does your pinlock have a silicon bead?
Made it back ok yesterday, wind wasn't too bad, no worse than overtaking trucks really. The crotch didn't leak, but that was down to not being stationary and having a tall screen.
However, despite the carrier bags, my feet still got wet! Must have been small holes in the bags, as my trouser ends stayed dry, so it can't have been travelling up and over the top. It's ridiculous that they can let in that much water though, if I was commuting, I'd have to take a towel and fresh socks. I'd have been as well off in trainers for the good proper leather touring boots were.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 16, 2013, 11:46:23 am
I use a pair of RST Vortex II's all year round, the sole has split now yet still no water gets into the boot! brilliant and cheap ( think £30 from M&P? ) Almost ready for a second pair lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 16, 2013, 02:17:52 pm
I use the rst gloves and find them great value for money.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on September 16, 2013, 02:24:16 pm
I've one set of water proof winter gloves, but most of the year I wear sports gloves with a wind-cheater insert (and surgical gloves underneath if its really cold, or I get caught in the rain)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 16, 2013, 03:54:52 pm
I always thought RST gear was expensive.
Thinking of going all out and getting some Altberg boots!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 17, 2013, 08:49:32 am
I have RST gloves, had them for two years and they are still in good shape. In heavy rain they do leak very slightly, but as I never suffered cold hands I'm not that bothered. In summer they sweat my hands a lot and makes them hard to put back on, still for the £18 I paid for them, they have served me well.
Currently using "Rev It" Engineered Skin jacket and trousers which hold up better than most gear I've had.
About to leave for work for an hours drive in light rain.
Also just bought myself a zip up HiViz as my last one's zip disintegrated after a year and it was flying behind me like a super-man cloak. New one is intensely bright now, will need to give it a few hundred miles to dim down a bit :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on September 17, 2013, 08:54:19 am
Paul, would you get out much on the bike? Antrim coast etc?
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 17, 2013, 08:58:12 am
To be fair, the Frank Thomas jacket and trousers are fine in light rain, but the oversuit was disappointing.
Found out that Gore Tex will keep you dry, but when you take it off at home, it then will let the water though as it dries. Can't remember how this works, but I'm assured this is the case.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 17, 2013, 07:01:39 pm
Paul, would you get out much on the bike? Antrim coast etc?
On and off, bike was off the road for nearly a year. Mostly commuting, which is a way spoils the bike. It's good to get out on a sunny day for a blast up the Antrim A2 route, or Newcastle and up round the Hill Town road.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 17, 2013, 07:03:20 pm
It does yes, but the material itself is porous and hyper absorbent plastic. The aim is for it to absorb moisture without losing it's optic properties, but it has limits and pouring rain over it, is, well, over it's limits.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 18, 2013, 08:30:24 am
Hmm. Not ridden much with the lid shut, on a dry day I like air, when it's wet, it fogs at the moment, nomidea what happens if I crack it when wet!
May just get a spray...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 18, 2013, 01:40:23 pm
Hmm. Not ridden much with the lid shut, on a dry day I like air, when it's wet, it fogs at the moment, nomidea what happens if I crack it when wet!
May just get a spray...
You get the odd "jap" in the visor opening, but thats fine. It's if it's properly raining then rain runs down from the top of the helmet and can run down the inside of the visor. I was told to keep the visor shut and handle the fogging. This doesn't work for me, as, as soon as I hit heavy traffic, there is no airflow through the lid to defog and my breathing rate increases due to the increased alertness and stress of traffic, causing even more fog to form. Then as the visor has been closed for a lot of rain, once popped open, rain runs down the inside screwing everything up.
I might just make a little video of this occurring and email it to Aria to prove I'm not mad.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 18, 2013, 01:45:26 pm
Actually, here is a video from a few years back and my last helmet. if you skip to 4:20 (ish), you can see the visor has allowed rain down the inside and now wiping it with my glove doesn't make visibility any better. If you watch how bad it gets when I get out onto the open country road, just carry on watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3YwTX33BfE Different version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3m-t__TTXI
Note, camera is on the inside of the visor obviously.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 18, 2013, 04:13:22 pm
i tend to use cheap anti-fog inserts during winter time :) work wonders.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 19, 2013, 09:43:49 am
What's a cheap insert? Disposable pinlock kinda thing?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 19, 2013, 10:17:31 am
yeah like a fogcity insert. Just sticks on the inside of your visor to stop it fogging up :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 19, 2013, 02:12:57 pm
How long do they last vs proper pinlocks? They're no really much cheaper.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 19, 2013, 09:00:59 pm
if you get them to stick first time properly, as long as a pin lock. :)
If you have a pin lock ready visor though, get the pinlock!
i seriously need to get a screen for my xjr, my neck kills after a 60 mile blast down the motorway. The bike is a proper hooligan machine though lol.
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 19, 2013, 09:15:54 pm
Can they take screens? Shame it's not a Tourer, a lot swear by the Varios as they have an adjustable top deflector to channel wind.
Or ride sensibly ;)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 19, 2013, 09:17:25 pm
Anyway, now that's cleared up... ;)
Mine is pinlock ready, I'll order the correct one from Nolan (via HG). What's the expected life of pinlocks or fog cities?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 19, 2013, 11:12:44 pm
Yeah you can get 7" universal screens, givi, vario etc.. i normally buy naked bikes as there is less to damage if i do drop it, which i haven't and don't plan to any time soon! My three last naked bikes had airblade double bubble fly screens, was going to get one for the xjr but the prices have gone up to £50 odd, the same as a givi or vario screen *blink*
My last fogcity insert lasted me 2 years before i binned the helmet, so depends how you look after it :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 20, 2013, 08:22:05 am
Tried eBay?
I like the look of naked bikes, but I need the weather protection for my journeys! Don't fancy 3-4 hours at a time in full exposure.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 20, 2013, 08:00:48 pm
My KLE is vicious on the motorway. Thankfully I don't do a lot of motorway driving.
Very high seating position, virtually no screen, just a token little flap and I swear you feel like a rag doll after 5 minutes at anything over 60, constant buffeting tearing at you and pushing you about left and right.
To make maters worse, when I had the chain and sprockets done, the mechanic dropped it a few teeth. I toyed with taking it back, as I previously tested it was capable of 115 (on a private road) and now will rev itself to hell at the ton. However, I considered that I don't drive on the motorway much and I have no need to do over 70 (cough), so I'll settle for the better get up and go and the rally short gear box for commuting is... amusing 5th at 30mph.
Still on the motorway at the classical 70-something she is reving at 7,500-8,000 and the mirrors are a useless blur of vibration above about 65.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 23, 2013, 08:32:15 am
Id take it back. I used mine down dual carriageways, took it from Birmingham to Southampton and back 2 up in the same day. Such good under rated bikes. Wish they made a supermoto version though.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 24, 2013, 11:56:55 pm
I got my pinlock. No idea which side is which. I have a yellow laminate on one side, and a clear on the other. According to the Nolan helmet instructions, the silicon bead goes to the visor, but I can't figure out which side that's on.
Anyone any ideas? Was hoping to fit it before 9am...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Unseen on September 25, 2013, 08:27:53 am
There should be something like an o ring type bit on one side that fits onto the visor.
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2013, 08:31:57 am
It's symetrical as far as I can tell. And both sides are yellow plastic!
Just discovered a scratch on it, so it's going back now to be replaced.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 25, 2013, 09:52:22 am
Yea, pin-loc has an obvious silicon bead on one side. Peel back plastic until you find it. There should be instructions as fitting them can be a little quirky if you just fudge it.
In fact I would recommend dry fitting it a few times with the protective plastic mostly in place until you work out the best "hook point" for the cams and adjust the cams for tightness. My HJC was easy, just clicked in on the default pin-loc cam position, the Aria was a different story and it's still not quite right.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 25, 2013, 05:57:27 pm
There are instructions on the helmet manual, but there was no obvious silicon bead. Now awaiting anreplacement to arrive at HG in Leeds as I don't want a scratched one.
HG seems an odd place, nice enough people, but there's no atmosphere in there (or many customers) compared to all the other bike shops I've been to.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 26, 2013, 09:04:32 am
There are instructions on the helmet manual, but there was no obvious silicon bead. Now awaiting anreplacement to arrive at HG in Leeds as I don't want a scratched one.
HG seems an odd place, nice enough people, but there's no atmosphere in there (or many customers) compared to all the other bike shops I've been to.
every HG i've been to is the same
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2013, 05:11:45 pm
No wonder the UK retail stores were in trouble.
On a different note, saw a Kawasaki GTR today, that is a fine looking bike, very fine. Wonder if they're up to the reliability job... and they're chain drive which sucks.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 27, 2013, 05:15:28 pm
Been window shopping today. Check out the paint job on this (http://www.jordansusedbikes.com/pages/used/used-bikes/1999-T-HONDA-ST-1100cc/2c929666410fdc1e01411ce614c40ccc.htm?YEAR=1999®LETTER=T&MAKE=HONDA&MODEL=ST&ENGINECC=1100#eq1)!
But I'm tempted by this (http://www.jordansusedbikes.com/pages/used/used-bikes/2002-02-HONDA-PAN-1100cc/31596194.htm?YEAR=2002®LETTER=02&MAKE=HONDA&MODEL=PAN&ENGINECC=1100#eq1). Sold as seen though, but it looks well tidy.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 27, 2013, 06:58:30 pm
Mrs Lurch didn't say no! I actually just might!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Euphoria on September 28, 2013, 09:44:44 am
The red one does seem to have more storage space... does it?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 28, 2013, 09:49:19 am
No, don't think so. The side panniers are the same on both, top box may be a tad bigger come to think of it. My top box is bigger, so may fit that to it instead.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Euphoria on September 28, 2013, 09:50:27 am
Im such a bike noob lol. Are either of those bikes a future trade in? I like the blue paint job *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 28, 2013, 09:53:40 am
If I got the red one, I'd hang on to it for a while. Pan's are very well built bikes and good for 250k. Blue one is £1600 if you want it! Brake discs look a bit manly, but if that's the only issue, then worth it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Euphoria on September 28, 2013, 09:56:16 am
No! Dont get me on a motorbike, Il end up in Darwen River *blink*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 28, 2013, 10:00:53 am
Bikes are the way forward! If you get a 125 you can get 150mpg out of it. I used to travel 150 miles a week for work, I worked out that based on thaty mileage alone, buying the bike brand new, the fuel savings would mean it pay for itself in 20 months. And you can ride a 125 on a CBT, don't even need a full licence.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Euphoria on September 28, 2013, 10:15:46 am
Wow thats pretty good :)
My car is like the family taxi so a bike replacement wont be appriciated lol.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 28, 2013, 10:17:09 am
Well, I worked that out with still keeping the car. Just not using it for 150 miles a week made those savings. If you do plenty of solo mileage, then a bike will pay for itself.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 28, 2013, 10:53:35 pm
Well peed off today. Waiting at the roundabout and the car behind me comes to a complete stop. 2 seconds later she puts the car into gear and drives into the back of my bike! She said sorry I forgot you were there! Why can't car drivers leave a 6 foot gap behind bikes so when they miss judge the distance at least they have a safety buffer?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 28, 2013, 10:58:49 pm
How do you forget something is in front of you? About time the police did people for due care and attention for that kind of thing, it's well within remit.
Hope you're OK and the bike didn't suffer.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on September 28, 2013, 11:10:56 pm
She hit the rear tyre square on so her front bumper crumpled a bit but the bike seems fine apart from a scratched number plate. The cbr has a fairly chunky rear swingarm so I hope nothing's bent. I'll take it for a proper spin down a twisty road tomorrow just to check nothing's out of line. I'm fine apart from my blood pressure hitting the roof and an increase in swearing! :censored2:
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 28, 2013, 11:15:15 pm
Other problem is that it reflects on your insurance premium if you take it too far as well. Which is wrong in instances like this where it's clear cut. Hope she's paying for a new plate at the very least.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 29, 2013, 09:28:08 am
How do you forget something is in front of you? About time the police did people for due care and attention for that kind of thing, it's well within remit.
Indeed. But that would involve paper work. It's much easier to do people for paying perfect attention just at 31 in a 30.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Celtic Boxing on September 29, 2013, 09:33:57 am
Sorry to hear that John, glad you're ok
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 29, 2013, 09:39:43 am
How do you forget something is in front of you? About time the police did people for due care and attention for that kind of thing, it's well within remit.
Indeed. But that would involve paper work. It's much easier to do people for paying perfect attention just at 31 in a 30.
Yeah, funny that isn't it. If I ever get the opportunity to speak to the police, I may ask them about that, be interesting to see the answer.
Where does speed camera money actually go? Allegedly councils have to use parking fine money to improve roads and parking facilities.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on September 29, 2013, 11:31:45 am
Regarding speeding.
"Do you know what speed you were doing sir/madam?" "Err, no!?" Double fine and 6 points.
"Do you know what speed you were doing sir/madam?" "Err, I believe I was doing 80, sorry." Normal fine and 3 points.
Inattention NEEDS to be addressed on the roads with stiff fines and harsh punishment, IMHO.
Speed never, ever kills. Inattention does. Inattention AT speed is the worst combination. But I would still throw the book at those people who think they don't need to pay attention if they drive slowly.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 29, 2013, 12:05:25 pm
This has been debated on my bike forum. I'll find a couple of links out later, very good YouTube clip by a Canadian chap. He basically said the whole speed kills is driven by the media hyping up the irresponsibility of the speeding motorist, and how poor Johhny has lost his brother, regardless of whether speed was the cause of the accident or not.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 29, 2013, 02:43:39 pm
Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BKdbxX1pDw
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 30, 2013, 10:30:34 am
Did i ever mention the BMW driver one morning on the way to work? Overtook me by a park which is a 30, doing at least 50? I scared the :censored2: when i caught up with him at the lights.. Glad he thought i was a cop! He hasn't done it again in the mornings when i've been infront or behind him! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 30, 2013, 10:59:18 am
No chance of anyone thinking I'm a copper in my budget textiles and clown-nose red bike!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 30, 2013, 03:11:29 pm
this had something to do with it lol My helmet glows blue when its dark.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 30, 2013, 05:40:39 pm
Oooohhhhh! I want! Just bought a new lid though...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 30, 2013, 06:00:47 pm
Off to look at that red Pan tomorrow. Spoke to my insurers about it too. My policy is due for renewal on Dec 18th, and that's also when I'll have earned 1 year's NCD which is worth in the region of 20%. I'd have a choice once I bought the Pan of swapping the bikes over on the policy or taking out a new policy for the Pan, but I'd not get any NCD if I did that. However, many more insurers come to play once I have a year under my belt, so it's worth waiting as they may well be able to offer me a better quote than the current available market. I'm also going to be away for all of November and until nearly Christmas, so I'll not be able to use the bike more than two weeks anyway.
I'm not going to trade in the DV as I'd only get half of what it's worth, so I intend to hang on to it until the fair weather returns and try and sell it then as it'll be easier to sell for a sensible price. I may stick it on Gumtree for silly money if I do get the Pan, see if anyone bites, but failing that, keep it. I also intend selling the deep pannier lids, pannier bags, tall screen and colour coded top box with Honda mounting kit separately as they're worth c.£300 alone, and that's 20% extra on the conservative price of the bike.
If anyone is tempted by my bike, let me know, it's a '99, full 1 year MOT, 44150 miles, FSH, no known issues, good nick, I've had 60mpg, averages 53mpg (not been hanging about on mways), and the extras package is negotiable at this stage!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 01, 2013, 11:08:55 am
im down a bike. Was stolen this morning *bye3*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 01, 2013, 03:59:01 pm
How? What? Which one? Rozzers hopeful or not really?
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Post by: fr499y on October 01, 2013, 10:04:50 pm
DRZ 400, had it 3 weeks and its been nicked from my shed... both locks and chain gone, gate lock gone... but they didnt touch my other bike that had nowt on it...
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Post by: Celtic Boxing on October 01, 2013, 10:07:23 pm
Sorry to hear that mate
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 01, 2013, 10:08:32 pm
That's very suspicious. Guy on the Deauville forum had his brand spanking ST1300 nicked after 3 days. That smelled a bit. Where did you get it from, and was it new or used?
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Post by: fr499y on October 01, 2013, 11:12:44 pm
a good friend thats a bike dealer.
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 01, 2013, 11:14:16 pm
Rules that out hopefully. Very specific to take the locked bike and not the easier to steal one though.
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Post by: fr499y on October 01, 2013, 11:41:43 pm
off road bike, kids.... just hope it comes back in one piece and not sold for spares..
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 01, 2013, 11:43:45 pm
It won't be kids surely? Locked bike, shed and gate? Someone was kitted up. What did the fuzz say?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 02, 2013, 09:23:06 am
My biking updates. Finally washed the bike on Saturday, not washed it in 2200 miles, and I've only done 2200 miles on it. The paintwork was covered in a film of crud and the wheels were black. Myself and little Lurch gave it a wash, and it came up nice, but I still need to get some autosol on to the downpipes and the aluminium side brackets. Here's how it looks now: [attach=1]
Also went for a ride-out yesterday with someone from the DV forum. Had a blast. Went to Holmfirth and up the hill out the otherside where I took the photos below. It's one steep hill... Thought either me or the bike were going to peel off backwards! Very capable bike though, never been on roads like that before, and she easily pulled 60 up there. It's a great view on a misty day as you can see, imagine if it was clear... [attach=2] [attach=3]
It also appears that one of my new fork seals has blown, so it's back to the garage on Monday to have that sorted.
If anyone is about nearish Leeds before the end of the month and fancies a pootle out, give me a shout.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 02, 2013, 10:28:56 am
Anyone seen this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24361195
Police are looking into what started it.... Obviously car driver police who have no observation skills.
Headline should be: "Range Rover rich shithead picks fight with the wrong group."
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 02, 2013, 10:36:23 am
Not sure how poor your observation skills need to be to miss a big group like that. If you're being held up, there's probably not a lot you can do about if, so just be patient. Whoever started it shouldn't, and nobody should have got involved after. Get the registration number and call the police, they're paid to deal with it, now the problem isn10x worse than it was.
While the car driver shouldn't have run people over, he shouldn't have been made to feel like his family was in danger.
Lot to be said for both sides here.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 02, 2013, 10:52:37 am
While I don't condone the violence, the biker group do initially appear to be trying to confront him and get him out of the car, but he accelerates off straight over another biker (or at least the bike is smashed aside). So by that stage he has attempted to murder two of them and is trying to flee. I can understand how this can raise heckles in anyone. Feral/vigilante justice is maybe wrong, but you know just as well as I do that reporting it to the police will see exactly nothing happen. Not least because it's a rich ***t in a range rover who can probably pay his way out of it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 02, 2013, 01:02:00 pm
I'm guessing that there's more to the start of that video somehow. I'd probably not want to get out of my car if any group of people started kicking off. Doesn't excuse the driving off either way.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 02, 2013, 01:09:47 pm
I'm guessing that there's more to the start of that video somehow.
That is a possibility. There might have been antagonizing. Alternatively it might just be a case of "bike" blindness, where drivers do not see a person, they see a bike and they hate bikes so they pull out, attack, cut up, or run over the bike deliberately. If it was a case of the later, then they should have hung him at the roadside.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 02, 2013, 01:14:59 pm
Indeed, everyone is a road user, car, motorbike, pushbike or pedestrian. Not sure what it's like in the US, but the UK really needs to wake up and grow up.
I've just been put shopping (pics to follow), but a Flandy has stopped too close behind a bike, tut tut, naughty etc, but shit happens, we've all done it, we're all going to do it again. The rider, on L plates, started gesticulating to the Flandy driver about how close he was. 1) get a licence before you start getting cocky 2) it doesn't matter. He didn't hit you, he's aware of where he stopped, and it's not actually affecting anybody really. 3) grow up.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 02, 2013, 01:22:30 pm
Just been to Hein Gericke. Bought a couple of things :) [attach=1]
Also now got some things to sell! A large Frank Thomas jacket and trousers. Both large with removable liners. Jacket is water proof, as are the trouser legs, but not the crotch area which is stretchy. Both have prtection in them. Trousers have knee pads and side hip cushions, jacket has elbow and shouler ones, and a cushiony bit at the back. Size guide, I'm 6'2', 40" chest, 32" long for trousers. The jacket is generous on me, but this allows me to put it on over a fleece, and the trousers need the velcro belt on my waist as I bought the bigger ones for length. Think they were just shy of £200 the lot about a year ago. They're not high end, but cheap kit for someone learning who doesn't want to spend hundreds on getting started. [attach=2]
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 02, 2013, 07:14:30 pm
Back to the Range Rover story, this shows it all in a different light, and is quite dishgraceful.
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Post by: Miss Mandy on October 02, 2013, 07:28:19 pm
That group are disgraceful and give riders a bad name. There's a video of them on YouTube from a previous ride where they do the same thing in swarming all over a car and terrorise the driver. They also jump red lights, mount the pavement and swerve around pedestrians. You can see from this latest video that the biker intentionally hit the brakes to force the RR into slamming his on, but the driver couldn't stop in time. He soon gets surrounded and quite rightly fears for his safety and that of his wife and 4 month old child. From that moment on he was running in fear and probably not thinking straight. Why should he even be put in this position, what do the riders have to gain from it?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 03, 2013, 08:25:30 am
Yes having seen that, looks like a different story entirely.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 03, 2013, 09:01:33 am
Wonder if stuff like that happens in the UK? Can't say I've heard of anything.
In other news, I'd previously contacted J&S about my porous boots, and they said could take them back. However I'd not been able to find the receipt, so contacted them via Twitter. It's amazing how asking a question in public gets you a result, the Twitter team contacted the area manager, and they'll sort it out for me if I just take them to the Leeds store. Result! However, I don't want those boots again, and I've got my eyes either on some Altbergs or a pair of HG Goretex boots. Maybe I'll get the money back as store credit and I'll buy some accessories instead. Or flog the voucher. Undecided. If anyone wants some stuff from J&S, give me a shout, not sure I can find £80 worth of stuff to buy from there offhand.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 04, 2013, 08:47:58 am
I have Oxtar boots. Leather outer, Gortex inner and they have never once leaked in 4 years. Got them 1/2 price at £80 in a sale.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 04, 2013, 08:57:10 am
Well, any Goretex product has a five year guarantee, and here (http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/boots/goretex.html) is all the Goretex boots J&S do. I don't want to go over £100 on top of my credit, so that'll be to £200 in J&S. Hein Gericke have some I like in the sale here (http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/boots-shoes/hein-gericke-tivano-gtxr-stiefel-schwarz.html).
But what to do with an £80 voucher?! Few bits I can buy as I mentioned.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 05, 2013, 05:28:12 pm
6 more posts, and the bike thread hits the top ten threads on TFF :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 05, 2013, 07:46:28 pm
5 to go, thumbsup
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 05, 2013, 09:27:52 pm
Meh, the other thread now has momentum. No rush, we're all year, all weather bikers! We know that we'll make good progress along the way somewhere :)
Any news on your bike fr499y?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 06, 2013, 10:30:29 pm
Should have my bike back from the garage tomorrow tea time, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 07, 2013, 08:24:26 am
It's funny you should say that about all year, all weather. Each winter I try and bike it to work as often as I can be bothered.
Car: Leave the house and get into a freezer. Spend the next 10 minutes shivering hoping for the engine to finally make warm air. Worry that an engine failure would leave you stranded, in a freezer. Then spend the last 5 minutes walking through a freezing cold morning from my parking space to work. Repeat in reverse on the way home.
Bike: Actually wear equipment that protects you from the cold, rain and wind. Spend the whole journey to work toasty. Park in the work basement. Result.
I have my limits though. I don't mind a bit of rain, I don't mind a bit of cold, don't mind it being dark or windy. It's when you get 2 or 3 of them at once it starts to feel like a chore.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 07, 2013, 10:33:21 am
Done all of them at the same time a couple of times now. Rather take the bike than the cage.
I may get so bold as to take the bike out in the snow, depending on what the ice situation may be. Might sound barmy, but what happens if you're out on the bike at the start of a clear day, and the snow rolls in and you have to get home? I used to take my CG125 out, but it had very thin tyres, and used to bite down through the snow. And it didn't weigh 250kg like my DV does!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 07, 2013, 01:39:47 pm
been in the snow on the xjr, don't wanna make a habit of it!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 07, 2013, 01:53:25 pm
Pray tell! Any news on the 400?
Gutted. Bike is in to have the new leaking fork seal sorted, and they've found a nick on the leg. As it's the leg that was OK, but I asked them to do the seals as a pair anyway. Credit to them, they're not arguing about who did it, they're going to get a new leg for the bike. I call that good service, no arguing, immediate apology, the only real disappointment is that it's going to take a few days to get one.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 07, 2013, 07:43:27 pm
Wasn't meant to rain today. Headed home after work and a few spots, then light rain and as I neared home, pouring heavy, heavy rain.
... and the visor failed. Rain down the inside of it. Drove through the town unable to see anything but swiming globs of red and white lights. Tried snapping it hard shut and that just seemed to cause more to run down the inside, tried wiping the inside with my finger it, that just made it worse.
Rather uncomfortable mile or two through rush hour traffic in the town until the rain stopped and the visor started to clear.
Looking at it, the pinlock doesn't help, as it rubs on the upper visor seal when you crack it open, giving the water an easy channel to "capillary" from the seal to the visor.
Options are, keep the visor tight shut and hope the pin lock holds against the fogging in stop and go traffic or crack it open and deal with the rain on the inside.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 07, 2013, 09:28:14 pm
I've heard this of a few helmets, especially where the rubber seal isn't anything other than fiat or sloping to the edges.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 08, 2013, 11:26:06 am
Anyone on here?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDeSn_QJ_sI
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 09, 2013, 11:04:57 am
I've decided I'm going to get an Autocom or a Starcom system for the bike. Thought I'd see on here is anyone had one for sale before I sent my money elsewhere.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 09, 2013, 11:12:37 am
I'm after a satnav with either jack out or Bluetooth too. Not a bike one, as inwant the option of sticking it in the car, and bike ones are silly money
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 09, 2013, 01:14:31 pm
No news on the 400, and i just use my phone with a 12v socket, both in (misses)car and on bike *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 09, 2013, 05:14:43 pm
I'm after a satnav with either jack out or Bluetooth too. Not a bike one, as inwant the option of sticking it in the car, and bike ones are silly money
I use my tom tom on the bike but it's got no sound. Even though it's Bluetooth that only works for traffic updates not sound and it's so old it doesn't have a sound jack point. Most people use the navigation on modern phones now,much easier. You can mod the tom tom for a speaker but it may not be worth the hassle when you can just use maps on your phone and plug headphones into it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 09, 2013, 06:24:24 pm
Maybe the BT ones are the bike ones designed to talk to headsets. Some definitely have jack out though.
Plus I don't have a phone that offers the facility for turn by turn.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 09, 2013, 08:35:48 pm
Remember to check the bicycle departments too.
Seen at least one occurrence of the exact same product prices twice as much in the motorcycle department versus the bicycle department. Halfrauds are great at it apparently.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 10, 2013, 08:21:50 am
I think the newer tom tom devices have a headphone socket,mine is so old it estimates time to destination by horse and cart. roflmao
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 10, 2013, 12:20:53 pm
Does it tell you where to have scheduled hay stops?! :)
Still not got my bike back yet. If no word by 3.30, might give them a call.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 10, 2013, 03:08:40 pm
I have a niggle I'd like to run by you guys.
My bike makes a gratting, rubbing noise on engine braking. Chain tension looks okay, I assume there is oil in the sump as the oil light is not on (I confess I haven't checked, but the bike was serviced about 300 miles ago).
On the power it's fine, just the normal rattles and groans of a well wintered 6yo outdoor commuter bike with 15k miles.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 10, 2013, 03:10:39 pm
Well, check the oil, but maybe tappets or belt tension (if it's a timing belt).
Dunno, just guessing here!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 10, 2013, 04:07:33 pm
Heard from the bike garage. The new fork leg seems to be too narrow internally for the spring, so the whole shebang is off to the leg place rather than messing about. Bad new is, I'm lumbered with staying home or having to use the car until the start of next week. Gutted.
Now, when I was thinking about the Pan, I spoke to my insurers about having another bike, and I would have had to have swapped bikes on the policy or got a new policy for the new bike. Now, my renewal is in December, so a way off, not that I'm about much in the interim, but how to multi-bike policies work? I have heard that some end up with a whole garage full of bikes insured for little more than one costs to insure, presumably on a basis of you can only ride one bike at a time. How have people found this? I should have a whole new world of insurance opened up to me in December as I'll have had 1 year's NCB by then.
Also means I'm thinking of getting a second bike for hacking about, but just what to get as a cheap hack that might be a bit of fuin for banging about locally or nipping around on if I don't need luggage. Any suggestions as to what's cheap? I'd like a VFR, and have seen plenty under £2000 (cheapest was £1300) as they're good bikes, but got to wonder what the bottom end of any market is like. A few hundred quid I'd not feel so bad about canning it if I needed too much for the MOT, but over a grand...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 10, 2013, 07:27:28 pm
Well, check the oil, but maybe tappets or belt tension (if it's a timing belt).
Dunno, just guessing here!
It's a timing chain. It sounds like... you know when you have a wheel on a cart or trolley that is fine when loaded, but if you lift it off the ground and spin it, you can hear all the bearings and it sounds "loose". Sounds like that. I listened to a video I made with the GoPro and I think the bike has always made this noise, it's just since it's recent restoration to road worthy, its got a LOT louder.
I shall check the oil, just in case, but I would expect the oil light be on and it to have died by now if it didn't have oil in it.... could be just low I suppose.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 10, 2013, 07:31:37 pm
Well, mine won't throw the oil light on until it's down to about 2 litres, and it takes over 3 litres, but two litres is WAY off the bottom of the dipstick.
Oh, seen a CB500 for £900. Forgotten mileage and age, other than it wasn't ancient, and it's probably done 60-80k. Doesn't sound too bad, and being a V Twim (iirc) should be a solid engine.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 10, 2013, 08:21:48 pm
CB500s are nice looking, look like a more power and refined CG125.
I'm moving towards a well faired bike next time. Get out of the weather a bit more. CBF600 still looks like it wins, or the Fazer as a second option.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 10, 2013, 08:26:15 pm
Still might trade up my DV for a Pan if you wanted a DV Paul.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 11, 2013, 07:55:12 pm
Officially in the top 10 threads! Whoop!
Only just though, we may dip in and out, but we're there.
Also marks post 15000 for me :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 11, 2013, 10:00:00 pm
Still might trade up my DV for a Pan if you wanted a DV Paul.
While I'm thankful of the offer, the DV is a little far on the heavy side. I have considered it and the Pan, and even a BMW R, but I want something a little more nimble and boisterous... and with reference to the BMW, cheaper.
Still my money seems to vanish these day and the car is suffering old age with multiple open grouches and in need of being replaced. :( The KLE I feel as if I'm just doing it a service, extending it's life as it's been poorly treated, left out doors uncovered all winter several times, it's tatty and rattly at only 6 with 15k miles. I shouldn't be trusted with nice bikes, not without a garage.
It's always been my problem, bikes just don't like being ungaraged and uncovered all year round. Give me a bike for 4 years and it's a rust bucket.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 11, 2013, 10:03:25 pm
See, I don't find the DV heavy. But I've only ridden a GS500 other than 125s. I can't say I struggled going to a DV, although the centrestand takes a bit of getting used to!
If you wanted to try a DV and you're near Leeds and have 3rd party cover, you're welcome to try it out.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 13, 2013, 12:02:42 pm
Well, check the oil, but maybe tappets or belt tension (if it's a timing belt).
Dunno, just guessing here!
It's a timing chain. It sounds like... you know when you have a wheel on a cart or trolley that is fine when loaded, but if you lift it off the ground and spin it, you can hear all the bearings and it sounds "loose". Sounds like that. I listened to a video I made with the GoPro and I think the bike has always made this noise, it's just since it's recent restoration to road worthy, its got a LOT louder.
I shall check the oil, just in case, but I would expect the oil light be on and it to have died by now if it didn't have oil in it.... could be just low I suppose.
checked wheel bearings?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 13, 2013, 05:11:12 pm
If you take the chain off and spin the wheel, that might tell you which end it's coming from.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 13, 2013, 06:45:29 pm
Anyone live near MK43? Considering a bike seat on eBay, but it's collection only within 3 days of the auction ending. I'm thinking if I bid and indeed win, I'd ask someone nicely to collect it and post it for me. I'd consider reimbursing P&P too!! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on October 13, 2013, 07:46:57 pm
that bedford?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 13, 2013, 07:49:02 pm
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 16, 2013, 08:19:59 pm
Look what arrived today!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 16, 2013, 09:24:24 pm
Is there something your not telling us? *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 16, 2013, 09:25:08 pm
No, no. Warm night isn't it? :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 17, 2013, 05:24:55 pm
It's a good book. I read it cover to cover. I'm so sad.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 17, 2013, 08:57:12 pm
I was lucky enough to go out recently with a few advanced police riders and it was a pretty humbling experience. The big difference I saw was how smooth and effortless their riding looked and how well they position the bike on the road. Seeing it close up made me realise how much I still need to learn even after nearly 30 years of riding. :book:
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 17, 2013, 09:21:03 pm
I'm going to do a Bikesafe day with the West Yorkshire lot when they start it up again. Can't believe they've stopped for winter...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on October 18, 2013, 04:32:52 pm
Is there anyone out there who can give me a good suspension setting for a single rider,180lbs on a cbr600rr 2009? I know it may not be perfect but i'm looking for a starting point. I've always ridden it as it came but it's too hard on the front and pitches me out of the seat on a bumpy road. I noticed the other day the front is set to maximum hardness and the track setting is supossed to be 1/4 turn off maximum so it's no wonder i'm struggling on lumpy roads.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 18, 2013, 06:45:27 pm
I'd suggest start halfway in the adjustment, and adjust it to suit on a careful lap of your area.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 19, 2013, 09:57:52 am
This is why I never liked the idea of sports bikes. Particularly because I live in Northern Ireland where our roads are completely rubbish for the most part. A smooth race track it isn't. So why ride a bike designed for such?
There is a section of deteriorating road, round a fast corner, on my way home from work, it has been dug up and overbanded about a dozen times and going over it at 70mph on the KLE the bars waggle a little, but otherwise it's fine, a little butt clenching. I expect a sports bike would bucking bronko you off into the oncoming lane.
Then there are speed bumps. My bike doesn't even notice them. I have to restrain myself and not speed up for the fun of gliding over them.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 19, 2013, 10:00:10 am
So my blowing headlight problem was the voltage regulator as expected.
Now I have a different problem, that might be the fault of the new regulator. The dip beam is "fine" nothing to sing and dance about I can ride by it on dark road. The high beam on the other hand is completely pants. Darker than the dipped beam.
Worse is when I put my foot on the brake (increasing load on the alternator), the lights get brighter. So voltage increases with load... that's back to front, surely.
Do you think I should be returning the regulator or is this in anyway normal?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 19, 2013, 06:10:09 pm
Erm.... sounds a bit odd. What headlight you got? Dual bulb or separate high and low?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 20, 2013, 08:49:22 am
Erm.... sounds a bit odd. What headlight you got? Dual bulb or separate high and low?
Separate high low.
However, I may be going a little insane, but I was sure mine had the "double bulb" mod, where the dip beam doesn't go out when you flick on the high beam. This no longer seems to work unless you hold the "PASS" button you use to flash the high beam.
The other thing that no longer seems to work is the main light latch relay. It used to be that if you started the bike the headlight came on, but if you stalled the bike it stayed on, running off battery. Now the main light goes out with the engine.
Either my memory is incorrect or the bike has been partly rewired and probably incorrectly so... or that latch relay is fried.
Thinking about it, the bike was "attempted stolen", the ripped the ignition barrel out, failed to turn it, so they cut the wires to it and tried to hot wire it. The list of damaged electrical parts (regulator, battery and CDI ignition) suggests they shorted out the whole live system.
There is also a smell of plastic when the bike is hot that I put down to either the new anti-rust paint on the exhaust cooking in or the fact the voltage reg was broken.. But it still makes that smell now. So I'm unfortunately considering a short melting wire insulation now. Bugger.
Research suggests the headlight getting brighter when the brake light is applied could be a dodgy ground somewhere. The ground creates resistance, but when you use the brake light, it grounds via that which has a better connection and thus the lights get brighter.... either that or a broken reg. The ebay seller asked if I could have the bike wiring checked and if a mechanic gives it the green light he will replace the reg.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: paulca on October 20, 2013, 08:54:10 am
Hmmm, and as it's that time of year where it is getting dark as I get out of work, I'm stuck in the car now, as I can't risk an electrical failure on a country road at 60mph and getting stranded with no lights!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on October 20, 2013, 09:01:24 am
The pass always added the high, the rest depended on the wiring of the switch.
The dim beam may be down to the incorrect bulb in the reflector. You could try it by swapping the bulb wiring around. While the beam may be dim, if you look at the front, does the filament look dim or bright? If the bulb looks bright, it may be bulb type or alignmen, if the filament is dim, then it may be electrical.
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 29, 2013, 06:02:08 pm
Took me quite a bit to get back from Blackburn today. See why (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?vps=2&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=201490436870696216426.0004e9e401dfaed7ce603).
Finished early, wont have access to a bike for a while, so decided to have a nice ride home!
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Post by: fr499y on October 30, 2013, 06:09:49 pm
Thats what i tend to do :P from here to my girlfriends could be a simple trip down the M1/M6/M42 but noo not good enough, B roads and small A roads for me! plus i get to go through a tunnel and make loads of noise =D
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 30, 2013, 07:43:08 pm
Not sure it'd work so well ona V Twin :)
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Post by: fr499y on October 30, 2013, 08:52:13 pm
V-twins with aftermarket cans make the sexiest noise of any bike! God i miss all the v-twins i've had :D SV650 sport Gladius KTM 950 SM Ducati Monster S2R 1000
Don't know why but i can't ride a bike with standard exhausts, just doesn't seem right *blink*
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 05, 2014, 05:13:20 pm
I've been away from my bike for ages, soon to check the lights and levels and get the old girl out.
What have you lot been up to as it's been deathly quiet in here?!
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Post by: luke150uk on January 05, 2014, 06:53:49 pm
Hi, i didnt realise this thread existed, my job is 'motorcycle engineer' but basically all we do is repairs, servicing etc, im also a motorcycle mot tester.
Im the proud owner of a bandit, my girlfriend has a fazer and my other hobby is old scooters, ive cutrently got 5 :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 05, 2014, 06:55:52 pm
Welcome to the TFF bike centre Luke! :)
I'm beginning to think this lot are a load of Jessies and have tucked their bikes up under a blanket with themselves ;)
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Post by: luke150uk on January 05, 2014, 06:59:05 pm
Theres a couple of pics i found, thats my oldest vespa - 1959, all work inc spraying by me
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 05, 2014, 07:00:03 pm
Loving the Vespa.
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Post by: ianjw on January 05, 2014, 07:00:59 pm
Just spotted this too! I'm a motorcycle designer by day (and usually half the night too).
Currently have a CBR400RR that I'm turning into a Freddie Spencer rep, if I stop spending money on glass boxes, sand, bits of wood and slippery little creatures!
Good to see some fellow bikers here too :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 05, 2014, 07:11:32 pm
Save you newcomers trawling too far back, I've got a T reg Honda Deauville 650, done just over 44k. Had a bit of fun and games with a leaking fork seal and a dodgy speedo cable, but that was resolved a week before had to disappear for 2 months and leave the bike behind, so I lost a load of time to make the most of it in the late summer. Got back on the 22nd, but the need to use the car as a van and a taxi has meant I've had no time to get the bike out. Sprout is hopefully back at school tomorrow (she's not feeling too good at the minute), so I can get on to it over the next few days. Buying a guitar and amp hopefully tomorrow, that's not gonna fit on the bike, so shall take the "van" for that.
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Post by: fr499y on January 08, 2014, 01:26:14 pm
my CB broke this morning, started it, stalled it, went to start and the electrics gave up.. had to dig out the buggered XJR for work ( which i dont want to do!! too much power/weight for this weather too ) XJR needs new choke cable, carbs stripping/balancing etc. *sigh* bikes aye
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Post by: SpikeK6 on January 08, 2014, 01:36:22 pm
Hi
Had all the big liter sports bikes done track days and now all i have is a BMW R1200 GSA, best bike I have ever had for touring, two up fun and just general riding in general. I ride a 125 scooter to work everyday.
Toured Europe 3 times now on the bike, and got another trip booked for June taking in France, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Luxembourg, Belgium and then back into France to get back to Guernsey.
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 08, 2014, 04:38:17 pm
Gesundheit!! :) I'm put off by BMWs for the dry clutches and the time and cost in replacing them.
fr499y - Oh dear, what you need is a sensible mid sized tourer that'd bulletproof. Like a Deauville... :)
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Post by: Critch on January 08, 2014, 06:03:23 pm
Hmmmm love bandits
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 09, 2014, 09:15:05 am
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Post by: Critch on January 09, 2014, 01:41:37 pm
Head In hands, now shaking head side to side in dissapointment, Sent from my ST25i using Tapatalk 2
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 09, 2014, 01:43:44 pm
Haha!!
I just bought a Yamaha.
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Post by: Critch on January 09, 2014, 05:21:14 pm
Ohhhh what ya get
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 10, 2014, 07:13:14 pm
This!
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Post by: johnbow on January 10, 2014, 08:14:33 pm
I didn't know you played guitar. I play the drums,I feel a jam coming on!
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 10, 2014, 08:30:53 pm
Yeah, you might be making assumptions there :)
I can't really play, I had a couple of guitars years ago, could knock out a couple of odd tracks, nothing fancy, but I never learned properly. Tuning up someone's guitar for them a couple of weeks ago I realised how much I missed it, so I did a lot of shopping about and got the Pacifica 112V. £159 down from £249. Bargain!
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Post by: paulca on January 11, 2014, 06:38:23 pm
I have an Ibanez RG myself. Cheap, basic, no frills, but absolutely solid and lovely sounding and to play.
I can 'play', it's just that I never learn to play anything in particular, I just mess around a lot. Never strung a tune longer than about 30 seconds together.
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 11, 2014, 08:12:50 pm
I used to have an Ibanez RG120, did look at the GSA60, which is quite similar to the Pacifica, but the Pacifica sounds and feels better, and it was £10 cheaper than the Ibanez too, although I'd have paid more for the Pacifica than the GSA as I find it significantly nicer, although without the sale reduction on the Pacifica it's normally quite a bit more than the Ibanez.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 12, 2014, 06:55:27 pm
The only thing that's better than a motorbike thread is a motorbike thread with guitars!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 12, 2014, 10:15:10 pm
Do I need to rename the thread?! :)
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 12, 2014, 10:16:58 pm
Haha, I think the guitar bit is better still hidden in the thread, it just makes it even better as you read through it
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Post by: Sobriquet on January 12, 2014, 10:20:36 pm
I don't have a bike, but do have two guitars. Been looking at a electro-acoustic Ibanez to add to my collection, but the money has gone on a tank instead. Mrs said she might "see what happens" regarding that guitar for my birthday. :)
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 12, 2014, 10:28:58 pm
Nice, if you want a cheapy good second hand electro acoustic, look for a Yamaha apx-4a, cracking little slim body, cutaway and plays nicely acoustic or plugged in. I've gigged one loads of times, it's my backup guitar but I do have a soft spot for it
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 12, 2014, 10:36:32 pm
Can't rely on my Mrs buying me a guitar for my birthday. She'd think a £30 3/4 Argos acoustic would be suitable...
My father in law has a classical acoustic he got 8 months ago. He claimed he'd played it, but the lots hadn't even.tightened on the strings, so he obviously hadn't. He was complaining his fingers were long and too big until I pointed out that was an excuse, showed him alternate fingering for the A major and made him take his thumb from off the low E and put it on the back. He said professional guitarists put it there yo which I pointed out that they were a, good enough and b, it's an advanced technique.
Funniest thing was, he thought he needed to learn every chord. I took his chord book away, left him three chords to practice, and once he'd learned them, he had to learn to change between them. Now he has a focus he might learn and enjoy. If he doesn't practice, then he's obviously not interested in learning.
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 12, 2014, 10:41:28 pm
Nice, if you want a cheapy good second hand electro acoustic, look for a Yamaha apx-4a, cracking little slim body, cutaway and plays nicely acoustic or plugged in. I've gigged one loads of times, it's my backup guitar but I do have a soft spot for it
Not sure what I'd go for in an acoustic. Makon would be nice!! Yamaha are pretty much there on good quality for any price bracket.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 12, 2014, 10:43:08 pm
The yammy is good value. There are plenty of nice sticks out there. My gibson j150 is probably the jewel in my collection
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 12, 2014, 10:44:11 pm
Can't rely on my Mrs buying me a guitar for my birthday. She'd think a £30 3/4 Argos acoustic would be suitable...
My father in law has a classical acoustic he got 8 months ago. He claimed he'd played it, but the lots hadn't even.tightened on the strings, so he obviously hadn't. He was complaining his fingers were long and too big until I pointed out that was an excuse, showed him alternate fingering for the A major and made him take his thumb from off the low E and put it on the back. He said professional guitarists put it there yo which I pointed out that they were a, good enough and b, it's an advanced technique.
Funniest thing was, he thought he needed to learn every chord. I took his chord book away, left him three chords to practice, and once he'd learned them, he had to learn to change between them. Now he has a focus he might learn and enjoy. If he doesn't practice, then he's obviously not interested in learning.
classic!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 12, 2014, 10:47:58 pm
Used to have a really nice sounding Samick acoustic before I sold up. Really playable. Sounded sweet too. When/if I buy one, I think the shops will hate me, I'd want to try every guitar in my price range until I get the one I like, but trouble is, strings can.change the feel of an acoustic so much, the decent one that sounds good and feels off could be down to strings.
Not sure why I'm worrying, couple of years off buying an acoustic!
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Post by: fr499y on January 13, 2014, 12:12:09 pm
Got a sunburst fender strat and a Epiphone short neck cherry bass
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 13, 2014, 12:30:46 pm
Photo won't open?
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Post by: fr499y on January 13, 2014, 12:34:43 pm
it didn't upload properly, will try again tonight!
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 13, 2014, 10:35:26 pm
I'm on tenterhooks here!
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Post by: fr499y on January 14, 2014, 03:50:13 pm
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 14, 2014, 04:01:26 pm
Nice! I bought a Uke today :)
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 14, 2014, 07:16:51 pm
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/15/ma2eju4e.jpg)
Here is my collection Gibson J150 Gibson Les Paul Classic Gibson SG Standard Gibson CS336 Fender Jaguar Then a Yamaha APX 4a on the stand
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 14, 2014, 08:29:24 pm
I'd love a CS336 or similar, think they're stunning looking things. Never played a hollow body/semi before, might find a guitar shop and waste their time :)
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 14, 2014, 09:59:22 pm
I'd love a CS336 or similar, think they're stunning looking things. Never played a hollow body/semi before, might find a guitar shop and waste their time :)
it's my favourite to be honest, beautifully bluesy and with a flick of a switch a rock demon! This one is a bit special too, it's the 10th one ever made from the custom shop in this series
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 14, 2014, 10:01:08 pm
That may need to be my 40th birthday present :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 14, 2014, 10:01:38 pm
Photo update... :)
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 14, 2014, 10:29:40 pm
I'm seriously enjoying the Uke!! Learning Train's 'Hey Soul Sister' at the moment, and discovered the joy if Cmaj to G7 as a finishing sequence.
Everyone should have one! Debating a mandolin :) and no, I have no idea how to play one or what the tuning is!!
sounds great, the guy I played in a duo with always played either a uke or mandolin, sounds lowly with an acoustic too
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 14, 2014, 11:11:28 pm
If you want to hear folk instruments at their best, listen to the steep canyon rangers. Awesome band.
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Post by: fr499y on January 15, 2014, 10:12:22 am
i want a U-bass but as I'm sh*t at playing, i don't fancy splashing out over £300 on one.
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 15, 2014, 10:15:05 am
Well, it's a case of practice to get better, or buy the expensive bass as an incentive to start playing!
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Post by: fr499y on January 15, 2014, 10:20:31 am
U-bass = ukelele tuned like a bass guitar but sounds like a double bass. When they come down in price i will get one for sure lol
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 15, 2014, 10:25:09 am
Helps if I read it properly :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 20, 2014, 04:16:06 pm
Got the old girl out the garage this morning. Popped her on the centre stand to let the oil settle in.the sump and went to have a cuppa and do some paperwork while the dun bathed her. Came back, checked all the lights and levels. Big question was... after not being touched since Oct 29th would she start?!
Well, the battery was strong in this one, very good cranking action, and with a bit if choke fiddling, she fired in to life!!! Left her running for 5-10 minutes, locked the garage, put my lid on and set off. Damn I've missed riding!
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on January 20, 2014, 06:26:58 pm
Got the old girl out the garage this morning. Popped her on the centre stand to let the oil settle in.the sump and went to have a cuppa and do some paperwork while the dun bathed her. Came back, checked all the lights and levels. Big question was... after not being touched since Oct 29th would she start?!
Well, the battery was strong in this one, very good cranking action, and with a bit if choke fiddling, she fired in to life!!! Left her running for 5-10 minutes, locked the garage, put my lid on and set off. Damn I've missed riding!
probably the most inspiring info I have read today - this weekend the fz8 is coming out of the garage and I'm taking her for a blast!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 20, 2014, 08:21:47 pm
Saw a GTR1400 today. Mmm! Shiny!
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Post by: fr499y on January 21, 2014, 12:52:36 pm
my bikes don't get to rest! Took the FJR, XJR and CB out on Friday, didn't have a choice as we were moving! the FJR is one heavy bike compared to the XJR and CB! The old CB is nearly on 51K miles and still starts on the button with little choke even in the freezing cold! Just treated it to some new mirrors as the old ones kinda snapped!
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 21, 2014, 01:42:14 pm
"Snapped" CB mirrors...? Was this a non-shiny side up moment, vandalism, or misjudging the width of a gap?
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Post by: luke150uk on January 21, 2014, 02:04:11 pm
Cb's are good old bikes, we use them for training at work and have a fair few approaxhing 150k miles, still going strong. Never had any woek other than maintainance
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Post by: fr499y on January 21, 2014, 02:24:40 pm
old age, rusted mirrors, tightened it up as it was wobbling and folding in on motorways, turns out it was snapped inside so new cheap £6.99 mirrors fitted ( look better now anyway! ) Cracking bikes, mines got a full fuel 2-1 stainless exhaust, sounds meaty as hell! will be doing it up once the salt has gone and i get the xjr out :)
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Post by: sexysi on January 23, 2014, 02:49:21 pm
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 23, 2014, 06:30:21 pm
Nice little site there. The Arctic run look alike it'll be a blast (of cold air :) ), that bridge view in the first photo is quite spectacular. Looking forward to the photo blog of that. I worked out the ride time to CPH once, it's about 16 hours not allowing for sleeping, fuel or ferries, no idea how long the but up to the coast from CPH will be, quite a while I'd imagine. Got to ask, do you think 350m a day is achievable both in terms of not killing your butt and allowing for hold ups? Hope you've factored in photo time :)
One idea could be to get something like a Go Pro or a Mobius and set it on time lapse. Uses up a fraction of the space of video, and you can then select choice shots for the album or compile it into a stop motion film for the more interesting parts. I'll try and dig a link to one someone did by creating a next button, much like the photo libraries on your site.
Have to say I'm quite jealous of it and wish I could do something like that. Time, money and currently experience is holding me back.
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Post by: sexysi on January 23, 2014, 09:53:27 pm
350miles a day, is easy. 7hrs a day, that leaves loads of time for pit stops and camera shots. The 10 Cr we will be doing in June, same sort of mileage when we go down to Stelvio etc. There is 4 or 5 of us going there so far and that is 2,500miles in 5 days!!!!
I am a member of the Adventure Bike Rider forum, (ABR) on there there are people going round the world, going down to Morocco etc etc. They are a mental bunch, I do a fair amount of off road riding, but the ultimate is riding in the Arctic circle, got to be one of those things to do list.
si
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 24, 2014, 09:15:32 am
I've never done more than 200 in one run, although thinking about it, I did do a return journey of 160 miles each way in a day, but that was going at motorway speeds.
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Post by: Sick lids on January 29, 2014, 08:57:32 pm
Until my (family) ban from riding I used to attend rides and weekends away with NUKB http://www.nukb.co.uk/ (http://www.nukb.co.uk/) They normally meet up and have different rides based on your ability/experience/attitude eg Red, Amber and Green rides. Really good days out They have aYorkshire based section
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 29, 2014, 09:08:43 pm
Looks like a good site, i'll have a proper look up tomorrow.
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 31, 2014, 03:05:09 pm
So I decide I'll pop to town, get some strings, then come back via the chemist and the mini-market, cold, but dry as I left, half way to town it rained. Am I not allowed leisure rides any more?!!
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Post by: sexysi on January 31, 2014, 03:16:47 pm
Don't worry mate i do a 45 mile round trip commute each day. I haven't been dry this year yet.
si
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 31, 2014, 03:21:24 pm
I've done my fair share of foul weather riding, I thought it'd be nice and I would have to hang my gear around the house to dry! Luckily it's Goretex, so only the top layer is wet.
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Post by: fr499y on January 31, 2014, 03:35:10 pm
heavy rain here and I'm going for a 60 odd mile ride on country back roads to the gf's lol Oh the joys of winter!
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Post by: lurch1000 on January 31, 2014, 04:06:31 pm
Isn't it about time you two lived a little closer?!
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Post by: fr499y on February 01, 2014, 05:43:41 pm
would make sense wouldn't it! the problem is our jobs. We both like them, and they are both 15 miles from our homes lol
Water proof trousers did there job though last night. My jackets got that much salt on it, its become water proof!
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 01, 2014, 07:25:26 pm
Find a house at the halfway mark, then you'll both be 45 miles, and you get to ride your bikes more. Shimples. Other than you have to move house again...
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Post by: fr499y on February 02, 2014, 12:07:58 pm
lol. Yeah. Got a year or so to think of something :) Only down side to moving half way would be winter. Snow + ice + bike = No good!
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 02, 2014, 12:24:43 pm
You seen die another day? Retractable tyre spikes :)
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Post by: fr499y on February 02, 2014, 03:38:21 pm
on a bike o_O no ta *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 02, 2014, 03:46:20 pm
Be reet!
Retractable, no ice, no spikes, shimples!!
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Post by: fr499y on February 02, 2014, 10:32:29 pm
lmfao! Had a good ride back tonight, clear sky, clear roads!
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 02, 2014, 10:40:37 pm
On the bike right?! :)
Did you happen to enquire about anything on my behalf perchance?!
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Post by: fr499y on February 02, 2014, 10:59:44 pm
i did, she used it for a couple days while she waited for a replacement fluvel 106 ( YUCK )
If your still interested in it drop me a pm and we can sort something out :)
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Post by: sexysi on February 03, 2014, 10:58:29 am
Ice is rubbish snow is easier with these on thumbsup
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Post by: fr499y on February 03, 2014, 11:04:59 am
Prefer the Distanzia's for a bit of muddy/snow/general riding *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 03, 2014, 11:35:32 am
Snow on a 125 it doesn't matter, the tyres are so thin they cut through to the road like butter :)
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Post by: sexysi on February 03, 2014, 12:05:19 pm
Mine's a big heavy Tiger at 210kg's so need as much help as I can get.
si
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 10, 2014, 11:24:39 am
For Sacha:
Bike licence options:
CBT - Valid for 2 years, and you can ride a bike of up to 125cc on British roads except motorway regulated roads. You may not take a pillion. 1 day course is £100ish, and then you may ride an appropriate motorcycle solo for those 2 years. After that you should take a test or do another CBT.
Restricted licence up to 35kW - This will get you a full licence, and you may use a bike of up to that power on motorways and you may take a pillion passenger.
DAS - you must be 24, not 12 ;) to be able to ride a bike with a power output over 35kW. This may mean a further test if you have the A2.
I would suggest having your CBT for 3 years then do a DAS. A 125 is buttons to run, you can buy one brand new and ready to go for about £2000 new, maybe £1500 second hand. Tax is less than £20 a year IIRC, and the insurance shouldn't be too bad if you have somewhere secure to park at home and you get a Thatcham arrived security device.
If you do want a pillion and take your test, i'd ask your bike school to give you a little training on this. Do NOT let your girlfriend be the first passenger you have, take someone who rides a bike as they'll be a better passenger while you get the feel of it.
Look round your local riding schools, check out the prices, check out the attitude of the staff when you enquire, says a lot about the place.
When you want to ride solo, you legally need an approved helmet. Any reputable store will only have approved ones in. If you want to go further on helmets, have a Google for "Sharp rating". You can pay from £40 to £1000 for a helmet. The MOST important thing is that it fits well, there are guides online, but you need to try on as many helmets as you can, the £40 well fitted helmet is way better than the £500 one that's flopping about your head. Not legally required, but sensible - proper textile protective clothing with knee, shoulder and elbow armour pads, some have a pad in the back too.
Also - be seen. Get a hi-vis vest, or a hi-vis bike jacket. Try and buy a light coloured helmet. Some do florry helmets too.
Biking is ALL about obersvation. What is behind you, can you change lanes safely, when you turn, are you going to cut up a car or a cyclist? Bear in mind, it hurts more than your wallet if you get an observation wrong. It's about observing for car users too. Go park your car near a junction, position so your A pillar is restricting your view down the road, and see how bikes, cycles and even cars disappear for a while when they're further away. That will be you in that blind spot. If you can't see the car driver looking at you, they probably haven't seen you, and you need to be prepared to stop.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 10, 2014, 11:33:33 am
If you go for 35kW by the way, you can look for bikes with that power, about 46bhp, or you can restrict a larger bike down, but you need to get a certificate that it has been done.
Look at various bikes out there, adventure, naked, commuters, touring, sport tourer. Mine is a Honda Deauville, excellent commuter bike, 64bhp, 50+ to the gallon, built in storage and can be bought for £1500, and restricted. To keep you on the 125 track, you'll get over 100mph, some claim 150mpg, and they're thinner than most bigger bikes so cutting though traffic should be easier.
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Post by: fr499y on February 10, 2014, 11:47:02 am
Look here for the tests, bike sizes and other junk.
There is in theory 8 different tests/stages when it comes to taking the bike test now. Granted, only 4 are purely for bikes, the others being quads and mopeds.
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Post by: Sacha on February 10, 2014, 12:07:10 pm
Thanks a lot guys. I made a separate thread anyway.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 10, 2014, 12:18:15 pm
Fool, this is the only place on TFF for bikes! All the proper bike riders come here! :)
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Post by: smith.wales on February 10, 2014, 12:30:38 pm
How many bikers we got here then? Passed last year best thing I've done! Was able to do the direct access course , Would say buy cheap buy twice, shall be investing in a new jacket/trousers/gloves this year, falling apart, splashed out on an agv lid and it's still like new. 100% agree with the observation part of lurch' reply and try and keep calm even after someone pulls out on you, it's going to happen get used to it lol
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Post by: johnbow on February 10, 2014, 10:18:04 pm
Yeah got to agree with that. Buy the best kit you can afford and it'll be worth it I the long run. Most expensive isn't always best. Ride magazine do a lot of tests on kit and recommend the best for different budgets.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 10, 2014, 11:29:18 pm
ATGATT!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: sexysi on February 11, 2014, 09:34:00 am
Been riding for about 12 yrs now, still haven't got any NCB, as I had a break from riding in the middle.
Previous bikes were.
Honda XLR 125 Suzuki 650 s Suzuki 650 s Kwak Z1000 Tiger 955i Tiger 800xc.
si
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Post by: smith.wales on February 11, 2014, 09:38:45 am
Let's see some pics then... Here's my toy, love it! First bike so not really got anything to compare it with other than the tired bandit I learnt on (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/11/qetedy6e.jpg)
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Post by: sexysi on February 11, 2014, 09:47:22 am
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2014, 10:11:04 am
Mrs Lurch would go nuts if I bought Little Lurch one of those.
I left her tablet open on the page for the Givi child's seat once, just pressed to lock button so it would pop up when she next opened it. "Have you bought this?!?!?!?!" Hahahaha!
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Post by: smith.wales on February 11, 2014, 10:18:19 am
Nice! Thats two for team triumph!
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2014, 10:26:50 am
I always wanted a Daytona, does that count?
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Post by: sexysi on February 11, 2014, 11:03:27 am
No, You need to get one *grin*
si
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2014, 11:29:21 am
Won't be this year. My tax bill is horrific. Plus I'd need to change a policy to a multi bike policy as I couldn't have it as my only bike. If I get rid of the Deauville, I'd have to get a Gesundheit RT/GT or a Pan.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on February 11, 2014, 12:07:19 pm
Not seeing much love for the Ninjas on here.
I've never owned a bike in my life, but if I were to choose any bike I wanted right now, I'd get a Kawasaki Ninja. Is that just me being naive?
Since I need to think about money and I am going to be limited to 125, I will probably end up with a Honda CBF 125.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on February 11, 2014, 12:10:59 pm
Biking is ALL about obersvation. What is behind you, can you change lanes safely, when you turn, are you going to cut up a car or a cyclist? Bear in mind, it hurts more than your wallet if you get an observation wrong. It's about observing for car users too. Go park your car near a junction, position so your A pillar is restricting your view down the road, and see how bikes, cycles and even cars disappear for a while when they're further away. That will be you in that blind spot. If you can't see the car driver looking at you, they probably haven't seen you, and you need to be prepared to stop.
I should have most of these skills already, since I have been riding a bicycle in London for a while now, frequently going on the busiest roads/ through the busiest junctions at rush hour.
I'll probably actually feel safer on a motorbike, because you have a larger presence on the road. Headlight, noise etc. Obviously the one thing I have learned from cycling in London is that everyone on the road apart from me is an idiot. So I'm not going to assume that the fact that I have a headlight and make a noise is going to mean that other drivers always notice me. What I'm saying is that when I'm in the car, when a motorcycle turns up behind me, I always notice its light in my mirrors. When a bicycle comes up behind me, most of the time I don't notice, until it's alongside me.
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Post by: fr499y on February 11, 2014, 12:50:12 pm
it doesn't matter how loud or how bright your lights are, they still wont give a shit about a motorcycle on the road. They will notice you, but they will choose to ignore you..
i was running my XJR with a 8" stubby can with a 2.5" bore, going from 4-1 that made one hell of a noise, still had people pulling out on me. Hell, even on my old KTM 950SM with twin stubby FMF 4.1's they still pulled out, and that was stupidly offensive ( and popped, banged and shot flames like theres no tomorrow! )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2014, 01:09:51 pm
The advantage of you being on a motorbike is you can command your lane, whereas a push bike gets beeped at to pull over.
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Post by: sexysi on February 11, 2014, 03:31:59 pm
I don't know this a pretty bright *blink* (http://files.websitebuilder.prositehosting.co.uk/fasthosts1767/image/10535332996_b63d7e16c3_k.jpg)
si
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2014, 03:33:07 pm
A cage would still never see you!
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Post by: johnbow on February 11, 2014, 04:58:16 pm
Just do as I do,assume every car hasn't seen you or is actively trying to hit you *grin*
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Post by: smith.wales on February 11, 2014, 05:09:51 pm
I'm with John on that one!
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 11, 2014, 05:27:30 pm
Getting a bright yellow jacket gets their attention. Must think I'm the police!
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 12, 2014, 11:56:09 am
I'm leaving for London at 6am on Friday. What's the betting there's flippin' ice all over my area?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 13, 2014, 09:41:12 am
Can I hell as like find one of my pannier inner bags...
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Post by: fr499y on February 13, 2014, 01:25:16 pm
bin bag does the trick lol
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 13, 2014, 01:30:06 pm
I found it. Blonde moment. It was in the 80l tub I put behind the bike to keep bike things in away from cobwebs...
Gets worse. I'd packed all the clobber that was destined for that bag in to a different bag and shoved it in the left pannier. When I found the bag, I repacked it, and as it was the RH bag, I put it in the correct place, but had to jam the lid shut. Not so happy with that much pressure on the lid, so I went back to plan A, then realised the right pannier isn;t as deep as the left, and I could have just put the bag in the other pannier but the OCD prevented me from doing it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 17, 2014, 02:00:10 pm
Anyone out down South on Friday night or Saturday morning?
Proper brown pants moment on Friday night, pooling up lane 3 on the A40 just before it becomes the M40 at about 6pm and got badly broadsided by a heavy gust and nearly got blown in to the divider. Had some battles on Saturday morning too heading back in to London, although I was more prepared this time for it. Bejayzus!!!
Speaking to some Deauville owners on Sunday when we all met for a ride-out at Donington services, they were saying that despite being marginally smaller than the Pan, the DVs take it a lot worse than Pans which hardly twitch in heavy winds.
So I need a Pan or a bike with a bit more blow-through!
Got perplexed why it feels like the bike is being pushed out from underneath you, but if you think about how counter steering works and the self-righting principle, it kinda makes sense, as long as you don't think too hard about it!
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Post by: sexysi on February 17, 2014, 02:40:40 pm
I got pushed around a lot on Friday as well. The tiger weighs in at about 210kg, I way in at a 100kg's, so we are talking 300kg's plus and it was still moving about had to drop to below 120mph ;-). just kidding did a exposed bit of the A20 at 50mph!!!!!
si
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 17, 2014, 03:02:54 pm
Mine is 236kg, plus I had the panniers full (I'd taken the top box off that night) and I weight 85kg, so I was easily over 300kg all-in. I did retreat to the inside lane at 50. Saw a couple of other loonies doing 80+ laid down on their bikes.
I've heard the taller touring screens can play havoc with the side winds too. I have the standard screen, maybe I should try that out at some point. I should really bother to find out the difference between riding with and without, it's only 4 screws after all.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 18, 2014, 09:27:50 am
Just been reminded of something about helmets - particularly aimed at Sacha who's hopefully embarking on his CBT before too long....
When you look for helmets, have a look for ones with inbuilt flip up/down sun visors, they're a godsend - for example if you're riding on a sunny day and going through areas of shade and sun like tunnels, it's almost essential, you can get some respite from the sun, but when the sun goes, like an underpass, you can flick it out the way for better vision. However, the rules of a decent fit still come first!
Here's a YouTube vid on a brief guide to getting the right helmet fit, there are other that will go in to better detail, and worth watching, but this one will do for a start. Clicky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYxZi8YQSa4)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on February 18, 2014, 10:58:19 am
Thanks Damian. Reckon you could break the news to my dad so I don't have to? Cheers. *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 18, 2014, 11:10:50 am
Gimme his email address!
I'm telling you, go get your CBT before he comes back, you'll have already been out and got the CBT to prove you've met the minimum standard for riding solo. Sexysi goes in to London quite a bit, maybe if you get a lid he'll take you for a ride and show you some of the things to watch for.
When you do get a bike, might be worth a ride out with someone following you on a bike, agree a half hour ride, say on your college route, and perhaps a stop somewhere sensible for a quick opinion and pointers.
Here's a video of a girl riding, she had done her CBT, and had been confident on her own, but complacency and riding beyond her abilities put her in a ditch, unhurt from what I can gather, but her confidence is dented. The video is of her riding afterwards, and you'll see her road positioning on bends is too wide, and you'll notice her stopping at the lights is a bit ungraceful. IMO, the person she is following (who is supposed to be helping) is riding way too fast for her abilities and her bike to keep up, so she is pushing to keep up and it's not helping. My point here is ride within your abilities, if you get aggro from behind, pull over, let them pass and then continue. It's all about forward planning and anticipation. Slow right down before a band and control through it, and accelerate as the bend open out straight as having to make anything other than a small adjustment in a bend isn't advisable. Here's the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmm7NxIQkQA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmm7NxIQkQA) have a watch, if you find yourself running this wide, you know you need to take the bend a little slower. Experience and training will teach you where you can and can't do things. Many experienced riders keep out or in depending on the bend, until you have more experience, don't do this!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 18, 2014, 12:13:38 pm
As I mentioned to you yesterday, a motorbike is arguably safer than a push bike due to you being able to command your road position better and that (most) motorists give you a little more respect and space on the road, certainly more so than a push bike that doesn't pay road tax and is the blight of the UK road network (yawn). The counter argument is that because a motorbike can move at higher speeds the consequence of an accident may be more severe than a push bike, and you don't get a special cycle lane (for what they're worth), although now in London, most of the bus lanes allow motorcycles. Not the one up Yeading Lane I noticed as I was attempting to find a gap in traffic...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 18, 2014, 12:45:27 pm
oh and some simple tips here they don't tell you when you do your CBT or test.
Don't go down more than one gear at a time ( without letting the clutch out before changing down again ) as this will lock the back wheel up ( unless a slipper clutch is fitted ) Slow down into the bends, accelerate out of the bends Don't change down a gear in a bend, make sure your in the right gear for the corner!! Don't brake in corners unless 100% needed to. You have the right to use all of the lane, bollox if a car want's to force you into the kurb, stay out! make them overtake like they would a car.
Oh and the one main thing with bikes, Enjoy the open road ( and not so much traffic *grin* )
My parents were the same, didn't want me to ride a bike, but once i had one and they seen me on it, they soon changed there mind. Of course they are going to worry though, they are your parents after all *ok*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 18, 2014, 12:50:57 pm
Absolutely!!
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Post by: Miss Mandy on February 18, 2014, 04:10:36 pm
I've always wanted to ride a motorbikes, but my mum is really against them and I never learnt out of respect for that. She lost a boyfriend in a motorcycle accident when she was in her 20s and that's really stuck with her. She'd hate me riding and I don't want to upset her every time I go out.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 18, 2014, 04:44:11 pm
That is understandable. So much of the safety regardless of fault is with the rider, same as cycling I suppose.
I'd say if you really wanted to learn to ride, it's probably best to talk to your mum and tell her you want to do it, and how you intend doing it properly, and that you're not doing it out of some speed-freak obsession. I ride a medium sized touring bike, and at 37 I'm one of the youngest members of the owners' forum, and there is nothing ego or showing off about it, it's all about going out there, and keeping it upright.
Not to make you go against yours or your mother's wishes, but if it is what you want to do, it is a fantastic experience riding a bike, and they say the biggest regrets are for what you didn't do, not what you did. Life is for living. I'm pretty certain if you contacted a local bike school and asked them to watch a CBT in progress, and sit in on the classroom bit, they'd oblige. Plenty of YouTube stuff out there. Here's a link to a riding school in Nottingham. The guy is called Russ, and he talks an awful lot of sense. http://www.youtube.com/user/RoadcraftNottingham (http://www.youtube.com/user/RoadcraftNottingham). Be some good stuff in there for you as well Sacha.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 18, 2014, 04:47:10 pm
Just realised, depending where you are in Essex, you and Sacha (West London) could learn together somewhere in the middle :) TFF learners!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: sexysi on February 20, 2014, 12:09:50 pm
I have no problem, going out with someone and buddying them.
I commute 45 miles round trip a day through London from Eynsford near Brands Hatch to earls court, in all weathers.
I have ridden in snow, ice, rain, hail and sunshine.
I have ridden off road and on road, I have been riding for over 10 yrs, most of it through London traffic!!! I have had some offs, due to my own stupid self and other drivers.
To commute through London, is total concentration. You will be looking for the next idiot to do something to take you off. You have to look for yourself and the drivers of the cars. I work for the Police and done the Bikesafe coarse, so quite happy going out with newbees. We have even taken out new riders off road and they have loved it.
PM if you are interested in coming out and I will give tips on how to survive London and watch to look out for, also how to ride in the wet and how to use the road fully.
si
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: sexysi on February 20, 2014, 12:11:23 pm
oh and some simple tips here they don't tell you when you do your CBT or test.
Don't go down more than one gear at a time ( without letting the clutch out before changing down again ) as this will lock the back wheel up ( unless a slipper clutch is fitted ) Slow down into the bends, accelerate out of the bends Don't change down a gear in a bend, make sure your in the right gear for the corner!! Don't brake in corners unless 100% needed to. AND ONLY BY USING THE BACK BRAKE!!!! You have the right to use all of the lane, bollox if a car want's to force you into the kurb, stay out! make them overtake like they would a car.
Oh and the one main thing with bikes, Enjoy the open road ( and not so much traffic *grin* )
My parents were the same, didn't want me to ride a bike, but once i had one and they seen me on it, they soon changed there mind. Of course they are going to worry though, they are your parents after all *ok*
AND ONLY BY USING THE BACK BRAKE!!!!ON A CORNER
Engine braking is a must, it is a lot more controlled. and don't forget 80% of braking comes from the front 20% from the back.
Never ever ride in a skirt, or high heels, I have seen some sights in London in the summer, girls riding scooters in skirts and high heels......Crazy, at 30 mph if you come off on a dry road you will loose half the skin on your legs and will never ever be able to show them off again CRAZY. Leathers do work!!!!
Please Please wear the right gear. If you are on a 125cc, Yammmy R1 lookalike Please wear leathers, even if it is leather trousers and Fabric jacket, with armour and decent boots and gloves.
si
si
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 12:18:38 pm
Yes Sacha, no more skirts and heels!!!! ;)
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Post by: fr499y on February 20, 2014, 12:22:07 pm
oh and some simple tips here they don't tell you when you do your CBT or test.
Don't go down more than one gear at a time ( without letting the clutch out before changing down again ) as this will lock the back wheel up ( unless a slipper clutch is fitted ) Slow down into the bends, accelerate out of the bends Don't change down a gear in a bend, make sure your in the right gear for the corner!! Don't brake in corners unless 100% needed to. AND ONLY BY USING THE BACK BRAKE!!!! You have the right to use all of the lane, bollox if a car want's to force you into the kurb, stay out! make them overtake like they would a car.
Oh and the one main thing with bikes, Enjoy the open road ( and not so much traffic *grin* )
My parents were the same, didn't want me to ride a bike, but once i had one and they seen me on it, they soon changed there mind. Of course they are going to worry though, they are your parents after all *ok*
AND ONLY BY USING THE BACK BRAKE!!!!ON A CORNER
Engine braking is a must, it is a lot more controlled. and don't forget 80% of braking comes from the front 20% from the back.
Never ever ride in a skirt, or high heels, I have seen some sights in London in the summer, girls riding scooters in skirts and high heels......Crazy, at 30 mph if you come off on a dry road you will loose half the skin on your legs and will never ever be able to show them off again CRAZY. Leathers do work!!!!
Please Please wear the right gear. If you are on a 125cc, Yammmy R1 lookalike Please wear leathers, even if it is leather trousers and Fabric jacket, with armour and decent boots and gloves.
si
si
Yup couldn't agree more on that one. Even with proper gear, there is still a change of grazes/cuts etc. One mistake people make is popping to the shops without proper trousers on. Dress the same, no matter how far you ride, be it 1 mile or 1000 miles.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: sexysi on February 20, 2014, 12:25:04 pm
Can't agree more. The number of false neutrals I've hit wearing high heels is unreal. roflmao
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Post by: sexysi on February 20, 2014, 12:32:55 pm
I find that when you change up gear in high heels, you end up with a dirty line across the top of your left foot ;-)
si
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 12:33:07 pm
I'm in shock. Mrs Lurch is considering a moped CBT!! I can't believe it!!
I can't figure out how the new licensing works, she's got provisional for car and bike, and she has "p" as well, bearing in mind she has been in possession of a provisional licence for about 5 years, and it was last updated in 2011.
My licence (full since 93) covered me for mopeds with nothing needed, just get on and go, what's changed since?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 12:34:12 pm
I find that when you change up gear in high heels, you end up with a dirty line across the top of your left foot ;-)
si
That's the cleanest bit of my boots, it's rubbed off all the shit I acquired at the weekend from the country lanes!
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Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 12:35:59 pm
oh god. It's the most ridiculous complicated system ever. I work in the industry and don't fully remember the ins and outs! I'm sure I saw a guide somewhere recently, will see if I can find it again
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 12:38:00 pm
I have one that explains the AM nonsense, can't figure out if a moped CBT is for life or fir 2 years. It has been for life I think as it was just to ensure you had done some training to ride.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 12:38:49 pm
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Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 12:42:09 pm
Yeah you might be right there. Passing the AM test seems to be for life and allows you to ditch the L plates and carry a passenger
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 12:45:25 pm
AM test, or 50cc CBT? If Mrs Lurch took her CBT tomorrow for a 50cc 'ped, can she ditch the plates, or is she the same as a 125 CBT holder in that respect?
Found some new scooters, ready to go, £600!!! Maybe a bit cheap?!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 01:20:24 pm
I think you need to do a test on something up to 50cc to get the AM licence, otherwise cbt will expire same as any other.
Might be worth checking with a rising school though, I have been known to get things wrong, on occasion ;)
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 01:25:10 pm
Not worth spending out on a test really, £80+theory(£35?)+half a day on the bike and all the extra training, be just as well to keep with a CBT every 2 years.
Besides, will a moped move with 2 people on it?! The advantage to having a full licence in Leeds is for the A58M as it's a shortcut, but you can't go on there with a 49cc bike anyway...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 01:47:35 pm
If you're doing to do the test might as well do it on something bigger to future proof it anyway. Couple of weeks on a 50 and a yearning for a 125/250 wont be far behind!
Not sure what a cbt costs these days, isn't that about £80 (£100 on their bike)?
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Post by: Sacha on February 20, 2014, 02:30:24 pm
£120 on their bike. But that's London so will be cheaper elsewhere.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 02:31:28 pm
£110 at the Leeds School if Motorcycling. Mrs Lurch would be better suited to a step through anyway. If she likes it and gets on with it OK, she could look to a full licence either a year down the line or when/if the CBT expires.
Asked on the Deauville forum about the full moped licence, you can get entitlement once you have a full car licence and have done a CBT, with no need to retake a CBT.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 02:54:20 pm
Ah, interesting.
Step throughs go up to 800cc these days mind you ;)
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 02:55:09 pm
Well, the burgervan is available in 400 and 650 :)
Supposed to be great bikes too.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 02:56:21 pm
Tmax is great fun too
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 02:57:07 pm
Got to talking about entitlements new and old. Had my full bike since December 2012, but on my licence AM, A1 and A2 have been ruled through. Does A supersede these? One guy has stuff filled in for AM I think.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 02:57:36 pm
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Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 03:02:47 pm
A trumps all. I've only got A on mine as I did it in 2001 when A2 was just a twinkle in some pillocks eye.
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 03:05:56 pm
A2 was always there for those not eligible for DAS.
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Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 03:09:18 pm
Even that went on your licence as A, with a =<25 kw in the codes. That's what I did. At least back then it automatically upgraded after 2 years where now you have to take another test.
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 03:10:12 pm
You've probably been searching anyway Sacha, but have a look at this http://youtu.be/bbtoVfZUi44
Look at his channel as well, some good tips in there. Can't find it offhand, but in one clip he talks about accidents and how non-fault ones can be avoided.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 20, 2014, 03:11:26 pm
it was, but on the actual licence it was down as A <= 25kw. This allowed you to ride restricted to 33BHP for 2 years then have any size bike you wanted without having to pass another test. I have to send my licence off as i have moved, just hope they don't see the A <= 25kw on mine as a excuse to change it to A2!!! i will be pissed off if they do.
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Post by: fr499y on February 20, 2014, 03:11:58 pm
beat me to it!! lol
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 03:12:05 pm
They need to quit pissing about with categories... There were some major changes in '97 (removal of C1,7.5t trucks) and in '01 (removal of larger trailers).
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 03:12:50 pm
Photocopy your licence before you send it!!
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Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 03:16:33 pm
I luckily got in before that so can now drive most things, unlike a lot of my friends who missed the cut off.
Fr466y, photo copy your license before you send it, it's not unheard of for them to 'lose' entitlements altogether, never mind get them mixed up. Big thing in MCN about it a couple of years ago.
Assuming all is well though yes, it should just lose the =<25KW bit, but it changes your date to when it upgraded ie. Mine changed from 2001 to 2003.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 03:17:59 pm
One chap on DOUK was saying his wife sent her licence off, and it came back with full A on it, she's never ridden a bike in her life!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 03:58:42 pm
That takes a special amount of disorganisation to achieve!
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 04:23:31 pm
Special offer time! http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/SID-06570118-75941E79/www_lidl_uk/hs.xsl/our-offers-2491.htm?id=229&ar=2
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 04:40:34 pm
Socks might be worth a punt, they can keep the 25 quid helmet :P
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 04:53:42 pm
I was looking at the £40 flip and how I paid £170 for my Nolan! I may need a white helmet at some point, and a Bluetooth kit.
Reminds me... With Bluetooth headsets, can you pair a sat Nav and a phone to them?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on February 20, 2014, 05:04:56 pm
Lurch, you've got an iPhone now. That means you can only use the Apple approved bluetooth headset, which I believe is a £150 Bose??
Just use a set of decent headphones with a microphone. Look up Sennheiser MM30i.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 05:08:19 pm
Heh! There's plenty that work with iPhone. Think Apple Bluetooth is fine for this application, just not to pair with other devices.
Wireless link for the phone may be essential for what I've got coming up, but it's also the sat nav thing, some are Bluetooth, but to what? May be I get autocom for my bike, but no good if I use a different bike.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 05:19:29 pm
According to one guy in DOUK, the CRIVIT flip helmet is excellent, good fit, quiet.
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Post by: Sacha on February 20, 2014, 05:29:59 pm
I use Google Maps on my phone as a satnav. I find it works better than my Garmin. It's the best satnav I've ever used, because the real- time traffic information is always spot- on. If there's a jam on the A40, it takes me an alternative route :)
So just cut out the middle man and use your iPhone?
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 05:35:31 pm
I used my phone as a nav in Leeds the other day on Apple maps, I was quite impressed at the timing and clarity of the directions. I just wonder how much data it uses mapping on the fly. And do paired headsets work for calls and audio?
Sacha, you'll soon learn that jams don't matter to bikes :) the alternative way isn't quicker, but may be more scenic, and if that's the case, you should have gone that way anyway! Motorways suck unless you are in a hurry!
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Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 05:37:33 pm
Live maps can be data hungry, plus struggle if you go out of signal. I got navfree on my phone. Map is a 500 mb download but works wherever/whenever offline
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 05:43:20 pm
Is that available for iPhone? I know Windows Phone works offline, you just set your route while connected to wifi. Driving to Paris in May, will run out of signal once I'm off the ferry! Just checked the data from my 8 mile Applenav and it's 200kb. Sound right?
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Post by: Sacha on February 20, 2014, 05:50:15 pm
Apple Maps is nothing compared to Google Maps. You should try it.
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on February 20, 2014, 05:51:06 pm
I used to use NavFree but google maps is a lot better. The data it uses on iphone is negligible.
I also bought a battery pack case for £13. It's a damn good case, and provides two full cycle charges of the phone.
So the phone can run out of battery, and the case re- charges it fully. Then it can run down again, and the case can fully charge it again. It essentially triples the phone's battery life. £13 off Amazon delivered.
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Post by: ianjw on February 20, 2014, 05:51:52 pm
Hmmm not sure, I avoid Apple wherever possible. Data can vary depending on length of route, whether you need to deviate/recalculate along the way.
I've read that google maps allows you to download an area to use offline, never tried it though.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 06:04:47 pm
I'll have a look at the Google app. I've got a charging point on my bike anyway.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 06:53:15 pm
Hey! We've managed 1000 posts!!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 07:09:08 pm
Just looked up Google Maps, reading the T&Cs suggests you basically hand over your phone book for them to deal with as they please. This is why I preferred Blackberry, you could revoke permissions at install.
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Post by: fr499y on February 20, 2014, 08:59:42 pm
Nokia maps beats all!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 09:02:13 pm
Think I read you can get Here maps (Nokia) for iPhone. Need to look it up.
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Post by: Sacha on February 20, 2014, 09:17:40 pm
Don't think Google really care too much about who I have in my phonebook. The only reason they need to access it is so you can set google maps to go to people's addresses..
Just try it, the turn- by- turn voice recognition is better than any other navigation app.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 09:19:09 pm
I've been reading some reviews this afternoon, it seems of late Apple Maps are gaining on a Google Maps and may have the edge.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 20, 2014, 09:20:59 pm
Reminds me, who on here has a bike and is within easy enough reach of the Pennines near the M62?
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 22, 2014, 04:51:07 pm
So my associate membership of the West Yorkshire RoSPA advanced riders has been accepted. Off to their meeting on Monday to find out about a schedule for observed runs.
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Post by: ianjw on February 22, 2014, 09:20:19 pm
Nice, might have to bring the bike down next time I visit the folks (grew up in horsforth) ;)
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 22, 2014, 09:23:01 pm
You should! Could meet you for a jolly jaunt across the moors. I'm trying to organise a Pennine based ride out on the DV forum, but all welcome, plus I'm always up for any excuse to go out somewhere. Cracking pubs for lunch around the Aire valley.
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Post by: johnbow on February 22, 2014, 09:34:40 pm
Total shocker today,our local council has made a proper attempt to fix the potholes! Rather than repeating last year's effort of filling them with cement they cut out the pothole and replaced it with a generous 3 foot square of Tarmac. True the Tarmac is 4 inches higher than the rest of the road but I'm hoping it'll sink a bit and I'll be able to ride up the road without looking like a downhill slalom skier! Who says they spend our road tax on expenses?
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 22, 2014, 09:35:26 pm
Holy shit!!
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Post by: johnbow on February 22, 2014, 09:39:19 pm
I should say they've only covered 300 metres so far. They'll probably run out of cash next week and resort to one bloke with a bag of gravel and some superglue.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 22, 2014, 09:47:52 pm
It's a start...
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Post by: johnbow on February 22, 2014, 09:57:51 pm
I've just renewed my insurance and eveyone has raised their excess by around £300! Is this across the board or something for my class of bike? My postcode,job,nbc and driving record are all the same so what's that all about?
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 22, 2014, 10:00:33 pm
I've forgotten what my excess is. It's to keep the price of the premiums down basically. In this go compare world, many look at the annual premium only. You've always been able to reduce a premium by electing to have a higher excess, but it's not by the amount it used to be.
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Post by: ianjw on February 23, 2014, 09:14:56 am
Did my car insurance yesterday. Got the choice of excess up to £400 from £200 but only knocked £20 off the premium. Would rather pay 20 quid now just in case. They've put the excess up on windscreens to 90 from 60 too which is annoying, got a chip I meant to fix but haven't got around to it
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 23, 2014, 09:22:44 am
It's not moving much of the burden to the policy holder at £20 really.
I have my bike and my car insured for exactly the same use. Bike is just under £100, car is £475. I've had my car licence 20 years and have many years' no claims. Had my bike licence 1 year and have 1 year'a no claims. How does that work? It's all bollocks.
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Post by: johnbow on February 23, 2014, 10:12:37 am
I've asked this question before. It's down to how much they risk paying out apparently. If you bin it on a bike they pay for your damages but if your in a car with 4 people you cause more damage and they have to pay out for more people.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 23, 2014, 10:17:04 am
Makes sense I suppose.
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Post by: ianjw on February 23, 2014, 10:34:36 am
Number of historical claims makes a difference too. Vehicles that are common in claims are more expensive. More obscure cars/bikes can be cheaper as less have been binned so go under the radar.
That's the only way I can explain my supercharged and modified Lexus being about the same to insure as the mrs's 1.6 golf (her license is cleaner than mine too)
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on February 23, 2014, 12:29:23 pm
Mr Dropscale appears to be casting shadows over the Honda NT650V.
I have to agree, it's no CBR, but it is a solid reliable bike capable of carrying plenty of luggage and has a decent range on it. Without going up to a Pan or a BMW RT/GT, there is no other bike that is capable of doing its job.
I think Dullville is an unfortunate and inappropriate name. It's perfectly capable at most things, and was never marketed as a bike to ride like your hair is on fire. It's a real world motorcycle for those who need that kind of application. If I didn't need to get about with more than a rucksack or top box of gear, then I wouldn't have bought it. For local trips I'd have got a CBF or a Bandit probably.
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Post by: ianjw on February 23, 2014, 12:50:27 pm
Can still shift too mind you. My instructor had a deauville and on my first lesson took me on the back to demonstrate counter steering. Was on a twisty b road and was chucking it about at pace with me on the back (He was a pretty accomplished racer).
Only time I've seen a big bike thrown around better was seeing the triumph test riders on the new trophy at bruntingthorpe. Came flying past me sliding the back wheel, leant over, grounding out the centre stand. Impressive.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 23, 2014, 01:19:23 pm
It's not how fast you ride, it's how you ride fast. Simple as. A Honda test rider on my bike would piss all over the Rossi wannabe on the latest RRR things.
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Post by: dropscale on February 23, 2014, 05:55:50 pm
i`m only pulling your leg...lurch
i agree with everything you`ve said about the deauville
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 23, 2014, 05:59:00 pm
I figured as much, thought it's be best to divert it from the mugshots thread :)
So now you've dissed my machine, we all want to know the pros and cons of yours *grin*
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Post by: dropscale on February 23, 2014, 06:11:27 pm
my current ride is the tiger 1050
pros
comfortable mansfield-loch lomond on one fuel stop quality finish legendry engine
cons
erm..............lol
here`s the tiger with a few friends during our annual scotland trip
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 23, 2014, 06:42:07 pm
cons - lack of fairings!! :)
That's a fair old range on the tank! If I don't go at full motorway speed, I can get 60mpg out of mine, turns out giving it some going from london to taunton in a head wind returns 46mpg... Still, 15mpg better than my cage at that kind of speed.
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Post by: dropscale on February 23, 2014, 07:52:21 pm
i fitted the mra adjustable screen,good for 50mph cruising with the helmet front flipped up.
as for the tank range....impressive is`nt it?.....and that was with top box....and a 85/100mph cruising speed
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Post by: fr499y on February 23, 2014, 08:06:09 pm
pfft i can beat that. 200 miles on £18 on the CB500!! and that giving it some stick on twisties using all of the rev range ;)
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 23, 2014, 08:09:13 pm
£22 on mine at my average price per litre on fuelly!!
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Post by: dropscale on February 23, 2014, 10:37:02 pm
interestingly(or not)me and a couple of mates conducted a bit of a back to back test on our last trip.
on the evening before our departure,we brimmed our tanks at the village petrol station nearest to our hotel in tarbet.we set off next morning,and i was showing 25 miles left as we pulled into the first petrol station on the a66.
we all brimmed our tanks again
i got £20.50 in the tiger....my mate got £19.50 in his 1200 explorer....and my other mate got just over £18 in his busa.
conclusion: big engines and slippy fairings rule when it comes to high speed mile munching
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Post by: dropscale on February 23, 2014, 10:40:11 pm
on the other hand....i could empty the duke in 75 miles
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 23, 2014, 10:42:22 pm
Manufacturers never state mpg on their bike ads. MCN have a test route and report the consumption they get, may not be bob on, but it's close enough and good for comparison where your mileage is an overhead like mine is.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 24, 2014, 10:11:24 am
Just chatting with Sacha about getting his bike - SOON!!!!
I remembered when I got my CG in 2004. It was a couple of days after my CBT, and as it was my first ever solo ride with no followers, I waited until my lift had left and wheeled it a little bit away from the dealer's door so I could fuck it up without a large audience. Of course there was nothing to be worried about, it wasn't any different to riding on my CBT, and I'd got on with that fine, after about a mile or two I was able to properly relax and enjoy the ride. When I got the DV after not riding for 8 years, freshly passed DAS, I was of course cautious being bigger in every way than the GS I'd learned on, but after the first turning, all was good.
Who remembers their first experiences truly solo on a 125 and then on a "proper" bike?
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Post by: sexysi on February 24, 2014, 10:41:17 am
Don't worry Lurch he diss'ed my bike as well.
si
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Post by: johnbow on February 24, 2014, 10:43:23 am
My first solo 125 ride was a few minutes after passing my test as the instructor was busy with another class and asked if I wouldn't mind riding the bike back to the depot for him. I was riding up the road thinking am I allowed to do this? *blink* When I sold my 125 I bought a Kawazaki ZX6r and I had an audience of about 6 people as I left the dealership as the bike had only just come out. I was praying I wouldn't drop it but it all went ok. On the ride home I found that rather than it being more difficult to ride than my 125 it was much easier. Better brakes,easier start and heavier so I wasn't blown everywhere by lorries. I still rememember it like it was yesterday though it was 15 years ago. I can't remember where I left my keys or what I had for lunch yesterday but I still remember that ride home!
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Post by: ianjw on February 24, 2014, 11:18:57 am
First solo was an rgv250, in the dark. Stalled it at the toll booth for the tyne tunnel!
Still makes me smile remembering that noise, 2 stroke at 12000 rpm with carbon race cans in a tunnel :D
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Post by: fr499y on February 24, 2014, 11:24:53 am
reminds me of the XJR with a 2.5/3" big bore carbon can and 4-1 straight through headers going through the dartford tunnel high revs and rolling off the throttle ( sounded like a machine gun! ) God what a sound... going to miss that :( 1300cc being fired out of a single stubby can is a sound you just got to love! Raspy wasn't the word
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Post by: johnbow on February 24, 2014, 01:13:05 pm
First solo was an rgv250, in the dark. Stalled it at the toll booth for the tyne tunnel!
Still makes me smile remembering that noise, 2 stroke at 12000 rpm with carbon race cans in a tunnel :D
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I had the 125 version. A pig to hill start with and it used as much oil as petrol but when you got it right it was great fun. My mate's got one and he's offered to lend it to me if I want to do a track day but I'd break my heart if I dropped it.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 24, 2014, 01:32:59 pm
You just reminded me. Does anywhere do track days where you can use their bikes? Not sure my old girl is designed for a track day, and fairings are hard to come by these days if I dropped it...
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Post by: ianjw on February 24, 2014, 01:58:51 pm
'No limits' hire bikes. Track prepared R6s, cbr6s, 675s, gsxrs, the usual. About 200 quid off the top of my head. Do most circuits I think.
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 24, 2014, 02:17:03 pm
Do they do the whole package deal? bike, track time, a destructor?
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Post by: ianjw on February 24, 2014, 02:20:09 pm
Not sure to be honest, probably, never done it myself . Other option is something like Ron haslem race school at Donny. Though I have heard there's not as much track time as there could be
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 24, 2014, 02:21:34 pm
Might be a good one to do first. Hate to think how much I'd spend if I bought a track day bike mind you. And having to get it to a track if it was just to be a race bike?
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Post by: ianjw on February 24, 2014, 06:06:17 pm
A mate got a stripped gsxr 6 k1 (i think) for about 1800 quid. He then high sided it at brands first time out!
200-300 for a cheap trailer, or 50 quid to hire a van? Probably waste most of a set of tyres in the day, brake pads, fuel. It can get to be an expensive hobby ;)
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 24, 2014, 06:18:25 pm
Maybe stick to bike hire. Or borrow one of you lot's bikes *grin*
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Post by: ianjw on February 24, 2014, 08:33:58 pm
Take your pic. A cbr400 that won't start and has half the bodywork in the paint shop, an nsr250 that hasn't run since 2003, a ducati 600ss in a state of half build or cg125 :)
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Post by: johnbow on February 24, 2014, 08:45:26 pm
I'm not starting with the track days,I used to do a bit of rallying and you may as well set fire to your wallet. I think the Ron Hallam school has a fleet of cbr's for hire Damian! thumbsup
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 24, 2014, 10:32:17 pm
Take your pic. A cbr400 that won't start and has half the bodywork in the paint shop, an nsr250 that hasn't run since 2003, a ducati 600ss in a state of half build or cg125 :)
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Sell the CG to Sacha!
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 24, 2014, 10:32:51 pm
I'm not starting with the track days,I used to do a bit of rallying and you may as well set fire to your wallet. I think the Ron Hallam school has a fleet of cbr's for hire Damian! thumbsup
I think it may need to be done as a one off! :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 25, 2014, 01:26:09 pm
Last night I was at the WY ROADAR group, mainly to hand over some spondulicks, but also to see what they were all like and meet a couple of the tutors. Seem an affable bunch, less stuffy than the IAM came across as. Let the training commence! :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on February 26, 2014, 10:21:05 pm
Knocking up a ride out, probably Woodhead Pass, be on a Weds-Fri probably in the next couple of weeks. Anyone fancy it?
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 03, 2014, 12:56:17 pm
Weds 12th will the Woodhead ride out if anyone want to. Think about 10am in Holmfirth.
So on Wednesday I have my meeting with the RoSPA training officer, off for a ride out and assess how big a bucket of training I will need...
Bike is currently in the garage over t'road to have the carbs balanced. I don;t have the gear and I've been meaning to get it done for ages, so asked them to do it and to check the bike over so it's in good nick for the TO on Wednesday.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 03, 2014, 06:55:27 pm
Apparently only needed a tiny tweak - 1/4 turn to realign.
Just realised I forgot to ask them to replace the clip around one of the pipes that's loose, the clip not the pipe. Crap. It's not easy to spot either.
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Post by: dropscale on March 03, 2014, 09:17:45 pm
Can't make it in the week, unfortunately. Have rode and driven "woody" many times. are you local?
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 03, 2014, 09:18:22 pm
South Leeds. Where you based?
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Post by: dropscale on March 03, 2014, 09:21:18 pm
Just off m1 j28
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 03, 2014, 09:24:24 pm
Trying to think which one is 28 now.
There's a few on the Deauville owners that were up for a rode out, since adding a date, it's all gone a bit quiet, but there's one guy who works weekends who's up for a run, and another guy in Lincoln who wants to put some miles on his bike after sheltering from the winds and cold, so if the other lot who wanted the Woodhead run don't say yes or no, then we might shuffle down towards Worksop so Mark can get over easier from Lincoln.
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Post by: dropscale on March 03, 2014, 09:31:11 pm
There's certainly some excellent motorcycling in the area....have fun.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 03, 2014, 09:32:26 pm
I intend to. Be good to get a TFF ride out sorted, but we're all too spread out!
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Post by: dropscale on March 03, 2014, 09:42:01 pm
Favourite ride of mine is up over woody, then back across snake pass, before heading into my native derbyshire...usually ending up in matlock for chips. home is only a 15 min dash from there.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 03, 2014, 09:45:50 pm
Not sure I've ever been across Snake Pass, it's not really a road that I'd use as it runs from South of me to West, so I can take a pick of many roads to take me West or South!
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Post by: dropscale on March 04, 2014, 09:36:34 am
It's not really a road I'd use to get anywhere in particular.i just ride it for fun. the scenery is stunning, and the snake is quite challenging in places.turn right at ladybower res...and then go through bamford into the heart of derbyshire. you'll struggle to find better motorcycling in the country....especially if you can get time off in the week.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 04, 2014, 09:56:46 am
If I'm near my bike, I can get there any day, it's when I'm away the bike gets shut in the garage unused :(
Each end of Snake Pass is quite a way from me, either got to get down to Sheffield or over towards Glossop. But then again, riding the Woodhead and the Snake in the same day would be good! :)
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Post by: dropscale on March 04, 2014, 10:06:48 am
Down to j36(30 mins)...over woody, then do a left onto the b6105.this takes you to glossop, where you turn left to go back over snake. from the end of snake you could head north and be home for dinner...or head into derbyshire and make a day of it.
ever been to olivers mount at scarborough?
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 04, 2014, 11:37:38 am
How long is the round trip from 36 to the west end of Snake?
I've only had the bike just over a year, and done 3000 miles sadly most on the motorway and I've had very little leisure riding, so not been out to many places at all.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 04, 2014, 11:48:50 am
Just changed my tax disc. What a pain in the arse that is to do. Fortunately, never again!!!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 04, 2014, 02:19:36 pm
dropscale - turns out that IS the run we're coin next week, but depending on who's coming will depend on wether we start at Wentworth services (McD's r/b) or Holmfirth.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 04, 2014, 08:31:27 pm
RoSPA run tomorrow!
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Post by: dropscale on March 04, 2014, 09:47:30 pm
dropscale - turns out that IS the run we're coin next week, but depending on who's coming will depend on wether we start at Wentworth services (McD's r/b) or Holmfirth.
enjoy
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 04, 2014, 09:53:41 pm
I plan to! Just hope the weather holds out! I'm going anyway, but clear skies will make a good day, and I won't drip in to my breakfast at Glossop.
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Post by: SpikeK6 on March 05, 2014, 01:29:23 pm
Just booked up a lovely round trip on the bike for June
leave st malo in France head down to Tours first night about 4 hours ride
Then on to Geneva the following day to meet a mate for the evening, couple of beers a nice meal
Down into Italy through Mont Blanc tunnel then up into Switzerland and through the alps and head to Zurich
From there up through the black forest and then on through Luxembourg and on into Belgium. then head back to St Malo for the ferry home to Guernsey
Not bad 6 countries in 7 days and a little over 2500 miles
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 05, 2014, 03:02:18 pm
Sounds like a nice run!
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Post by: SpikeK6 on March 05, 2014, 05:55:22 pm
Blow the cobwebs out if nothing else lol
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 05, 2014, 06:23:37 pm
So today was the day...
Wasn't as bad as I expected. The comments in summary as as follows.
A steady and safe ride, generally good machine handling. Good multi-lane disciple & in-town riding. Attention is need to A and B roads, particularly bend positioning. Good presentation of safety bubble. He said I had good speed control too. Basically, I didm;t exceed the speed limit. If he commented on it, it suggests that some do speed?!
Points of note to work on were: Build more discipline in to shoulder checks and lifesavers. Don't use brakes as a substitute for forward obs & planning. Read Roadcraft sections pertinent to points listed and discusses.
To expand a little on his notes, I've done so little riding on country roads, it's all town and motorway in the main. This is also the bit about bends, to me I'm needing to increase the confidence to get fully wide on the bend, as I like to like to have a nice margin between me and the edge of the road/centre line as applicable to the bend direction. I also show a brake light before a bend, not necessarily because I need to brake or I need to show traffic behind, but feeling a little chamfer of speed is a comfort thing for me. I certainly don;t do any real braking in corners, and I do my main speed reduction before the band. As for the observations, he is right, I need to make more from my lifesavers. I tend to be pretty mirror heavy throughout my rides to keep the rearward picture, although that's probably not that obvious from behind.
He finished the report with "A good start giving a solid starting point for advanced rider training.".
Let's hope it's a good smooth upward curve from here. On my way back I did take the long way round and put in some practice keeping wider on bends just to get used to being right out there so when I get out with my proper observer, we're not wasting time getting me comfortable doing it, we can just concentrate on the bend assessment and fine tuning position.
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Post by: SpikeK6 on March 05, 2014, 06:59:51 pm
Well done, Corners will come better with riding the bike and confidence. I have never done an advanced riding course as here in Guernsey its just not worth it, I have thought about coming over to the uk to do it but I would rather go round europe where its warmer.
I used to be a right hooligan when I had my sports bikes, I used to pull on the helmet and it was like the red mist had come down. Nower days riding my BMW r1200GSA its much more controlled and thought out in advance. Done 10s of thousands of miles mostly in europe and love my bike.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 05, 2014, 07:07:05 pm
It was my intention to get more off-highway riding in this year. Lord knows I've done enough shit weather riding in the last year...
There's nothing actually wrong with my corners, just I will be able to be smoother and quicker when I've finished.
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Post by: Sacha on March 05, 2014, 07:20:40 pm
Well done Damian.
Reading this thread is making me impatient......
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Post by: SpikeK6 on March 05, 2014, 07:21:44 pm
I hate motorways/duel carraigeways, specially on a bike, when ever I am away I keep off them as much as possible, on the trip I am doin in June the only motorways i will be doing is St Malo to Tours as I need to get there quickly and then from Tours to geneva as again its a fair way and want to egt there, then after that its twistier the better for the rest of the trip lol.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 05, 2014, 07:24:36 pm
Well, my riding involves a lot of getting to West London, it's not feasible time wise to do Leeds London other than the M1. Takes just over 3h plus a coffee and fuel stop. Alternatives not involving the motorway would double the time, and I don't want to leave at 1am....
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 05, 2014, 07:26:03 pm
Sacha. When do you finish your essay? Well, when's the deadline?
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Post by: Sacha on March 05, 2014, 07:42:31 pm
Well the deadline is Tuesday but I have another deadline on the following Thursday. My work is pretty much solid now until the end of May really.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 05, 2014, 07:45:46 pm
I'd set a day for your CBT, get an essay done a day early and do your CBT the next. Be a nice surprise for your Dad, and he can be proud of your achievement!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on March 05, 2014, 08:23:59 pm
Yeah, either that or I will find myself without a roof over my head.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 05, 2014, 08:24:37 pm
You can come stay with me...
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Post by: fr499y on March 06, 2014, 12:47:20 pm
Just don't let him near your co2 or microwave/oven! *grin*
I traded in my xjr *blink*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 06, 2014, 01:12:45 pm
Ovens? I must have missed that one. Pray tell!
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 06, 2014, 01:12:57 pm
Traded it for....
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Post by: fr499y on March 06, 2014, 01:15:30 pm
F800GT
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 06, 2014, 01:16:36 pm
Gesundheit! ;) you don't seem overly buoyant about it...
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Post by: fr499y on March 06, 2014, 01:24:57 pm
Yeah... not gone to plan, basically i got finance on it so i can have one decent bike to do everything, that was light, still had plenty of poke and the other bits and bobs like fairing, heated grips, ABS, traction control yada yada yada.. turns out they said *No balloon payment* but there is... a f :censored2: g big one at that!
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 06, 2014, 01:26:39 pm
So they say there isn't, but there is? I'd pick em up on that... A lot. So it's a brand spanker?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 06, 2014, 01:30:25 pm
13 model, with 2000 on the clock :) I'm waiting for them to get me a Akrapovic in but they taking the piss a bit. When they get it I'm going to have a bit of a moan at them. Nice bikes though, i did take a brand new one for a test ride about 2 years ago ( well the F800S ) and liked it apart from the clip on bars, noticed they now do a GT so had it lol. still got the old CB for work though ( if it passes its mot without falling to bits! )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 06, 2014, 01:33:06 pm
Need a photo update! There's an F800 at a local dealer, think it's a GT. Lost track of BMW. They dry or wet clutch? The dry clutch pits me off the RT and the KGT. Serious money to fix.
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Post by: fr499y on March 06, 2014, 01:35:13 pm
suposedly wet clutch but its as loud as my old S2R 1000!!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 06, 2014, 02:13:33 pm
Might last then :)
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Post by: johnbow on March 06, 2014, 02:14:22 pm
Got the dreaded MOT on Monday.(The bike not me. *grin* )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 06, 2014, 02:18:06 pm
Good luck!! :)
Don't forget there's a Woodhead Run on Wednesday next week if anyone is vaguely local!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 10, 2014, 08:43:06 am
Looks like the parts list for the CB is getting large! so far it needs:-
Fork seals fork oil front caliper front disc speedo cable chain sprocket rear shoes front tyre MOT tax
All needed this month *DOH* Going to try just the front tyre, caliper, speedo cable, disc and shoes and stick it in for a MOT then get the rest done if it passes.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 09:09:19 am
Yowch. Why can't these things be spread out?! Why not MOT it first, see what's needed and prioritise from there?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 10, 2014, 09:45:32 am
back brake does nothing, front grinds like mad and there is either no brake or anchors on! speedo went this morning and the front tyre is on its limit so there is no way of getting away with them! the fork seals however, i can wipe them down when i get there and hope for the best!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 09:48:49 am
Well, have you looked on eBay for the Seal-Mate? That might be worth a go. I think they may have a YouTube video, so once you've seen it and how it works, you can make your own out of a plastic milk bottle. Basically if it's trapped dirt letting oil escape, then you might be able to clean it out and job done. I know a few DV owners have successfully used both the official product and home-made versions.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 09:50:06 am
Here y'are: http://youtu.be/nEzjdFQp6IM
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on March 10, 2014, 01:29:03 pm
I've been looking at the Yamaha YBR- 125. A lot of people seem to prefer them to the Honda CBF.
Can someone more technically- minded than me maybe break down what the differences are between the two? I think the Yamaha looks better...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 02:43:59 pm
The CBF will be here years after the Yamaha has fallen apart! :)
If you're planning on buying new or nearly new and running it for just 3-4 years before you get your RRRRRRRRRRRRRR thing, then it probably doesn't matter which one you get. Go look at both, go sit on both on the centre stand so you can put your feet up on the legs and see which is the most comfy for you really. Also try them both to see which is best with both feet down on the floor (on wheels not the stand).
Have a look at resale values too, pick a CBF that's a couple of years old, find a YBR thats the same, with similar mileages and condition and in the similar area, use that to weight your decision. Honda are probably going to be the best bet as a long term thing.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on March 10, 2014, 03:16:39 pm
To be honest I was thinking of buying new, and keeping it for as long as it lasts. I'm not in any hurry to RRRRRRRRRR just yet.
Why do you say Honda will be a better bet long term?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 03:44:02 pm
Best reputation for being bullet proof. There's plenty that would happily get an old Honda that looked like it had been looked after, just because of Honda's rep.
Wait until a couple of the Yamaha bods appear, I've only owned Honda, and ridden a Suzuki, and the Honda seemed more solid than the Suzuki.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: SpikeK6 on March 10, 2014, 04:41:07 pm
I have owned hondas yams suzukis kawasakis, and to be honest ok these where all 1000cc bikes but the build quality was a much of a muchness.
As long as you look after it, servicing cleaning and general taking care of it it should last you a long time.
I ride a BMW now and I would say out of all the bikes I have had this would be the worst on quality.
Bikes are down to a personal choice same as anything, go look at all the 125 range and se what you like best, like lurch said sit on them and get a feel for it, the yam might not just float your boat
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 04:43:23 pm
You're not a million miles off my size Sacha, I found the CG125 (the predecessor to the CBF) ergonomically perfect for me, so it's definitely worth a try out. If you go to a Honda dealer and see a CG, may be worth a sit on too. the CG will hold a very decent value as a used bike.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on March 10, 2014, 04:51:33 pm
Thanks Lurch. My current short list is the CBF, the CG, and the YBR.
But first, CBT, and my dad.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 04:52:59 pm
Surely: Your Dad, CBT? :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 04:54:43 pm
ANyway, you need to get your big bike licence sooner rather than later, the CG/CBF/YBR really won't be enough for you once the bug bites!! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on March 10, 2014, 05:36:32 pm
The guy is going to kick me out
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 05:44:50 pm
Move in with your Mrs!
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 10, 2014, 06:01:44 pm
On a different note, I've been umming and ahhing about bike accessories. Found a helmet set that does full Bluetooth and a BT transmitter for non BT devices. Or I can get a Starcom1 unit. Really struggling as to what to get. Other thing with the Starcom Digital unit is that's it's £75 for the BT unit making it £200 all in.
Also after a bike mounted camera, the cheap ones record small clips that stitch together, then you're in to Go Pros and Drift HDs. No idea what I'm buying out there, as there's no real decent descriptions on eBay.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on March 10, 2014, 07:35:45 pm
I had a Honda hornet 600 as my first big bike, was a few years old a the time and it served me well, never missed a beat.
I then bought a new Kawasaki z750 and had nothing but trouble with it. I only ended up keeping it for a year or so and then got rid as I had enough of it not starting and generally being a pain.
My current bike is a Yamaha fz8 which I bought from new 18mths ago after having a break from riding for 3 years. It great, I always enjoy riding it and I've not had a thing go wrong with it so far. The build quality is good and the service from Yamaha has been great since day 1.
I am considering changing it this year for a super sport but to be honest is probably only consider Yamaha or Honda again. Still will probably try Suzuki and Kawasaki options as its always good fun trying anyway!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 11, 2014, 10:46:32 am
my best bike EVER had to be the 2004 z1000 that i had, custom cans with stubby link pipes, K&N filter, PCIII kicking out 130BHP at the rear wheels and shit loads of torque. I do miss that mad bike! the most confidence inspiring bike i have ever owned. VFR 800 Vtec is a awesome sports tourer, takes a bit of getting used to the v-tec but stonking bikes!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 11, 2014, 06:22:32 pm
Right then folks, reminder about the Pennine Run tomorrow, there's two start points both at 10am, Wentworth Park Services, Tankersley (J36 M1) and Ainley Top Roundabout (J24 M62) and a convergence point at Holmfirth Market at 10.30.
You're very welcome to come along, please drop me a PM if you're coming though, particularly if you are at the Sheffield end as I'll be at Ainley Top so I can let them know to expect someone else.
Looking like a nice day to run from Holmfirth down to the Woodhead reservoir, on to Glossop and then back across the Snake.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on March 11, 2014, 09:55:21 pm
I'll be there.
On my push- bike.
Gonna be one hell of a workout.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 11, 2014, 09:58:17 pm
It's one hell of a hill out of Holmfirth to Glossop... A6024 I think, Google it or look on YouTube for "Holmfirth to Woodhead". The Tour de France is going up there. Poor buggers, first time I went up I thought I was going to fall back off the bike!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 12, 2014, 05:41:05 pm
Out from 9.15 to 5pm. Ace day out!
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/13/arumy4y9.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/13/dy4apujy.jpg)
Title: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 12, 2014, 05:41:42 pm
Shame about the Gesundheit! ;)
We lost him halfway along the Snake, we turned off, he carried on (to be fair, he said he'd have to peel off and head home).
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on March 12, 2014, 07:50:46 pm
Looks like you guys had a good time.
I actually went out for a bike ride today. Got some lovely parks round here!
Who's 'the Gesundheit'?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 12, 2014, 07:54:36 pm
BMW K1200RT, the odd one out in the photo at the top of the hill.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on March 12, 2014, 08:09:56 pm
Ah, got it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 12, 2014, 08:11:13 pm
Swear word really. I mean who the hell buys BMW?
Oops, sorry fr499y.... *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 12, 2014, 09:03:54 pm
tbf, i bet you would love the F800GT :P
that reminds me, anyone seen this sort of restriction in a after market exhaust?
Doing my head in, took the baffle out to find its the darn same with this shit stuff down the end!!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 12, 2014, 09:05:30 pm
I've never ridden any BMW tbh!! They are merely tolerated on the DV forum! And only if the owner has previously had a DV!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 12, 2014, 09:28:26 pm
tbf the only reason I've got one, is I was after a lighter bike for two up riding that still had plenty of power.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 12, 2014, 10:14:36 pm
NT650V? Plenty capable! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 13, 2014, 08:32:22 am
Nahh, the xjr is was the same weight as a ntv650, and i wasn't going to drop the power by half *grin* the f800GT still has 90BHP ( give or take a couple now with akra fitted ) and being fuel injected, i can actually get more than 20mpg
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 13, 2014, 08:46:05 am
I'm averaging 53mpg. Worst was 46mpg, high speed and a headwind, best was 59.8mpg. If I went slower and or put the standard screen on if do better. One guy I was out with yesterday has had over 70mpg before.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 13, 2014, 09:01:23 am
getting 60's at the moment on the F800 :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 13, 2014, 09:01:56 am
Is that chain or shaft?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 13, 2014, 09:45:04 am
belt
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 13, 2014, 09:51:26 am
Very flash... Do they stretch like chains?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 13, 2014, 10:13:05 am
as far as i know, they only require slight adjustment :) main thing is, no darn chain lube!! and one hell of a life unlike chains :D
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: sexysi on March 13, 2014, 10:21:46 am
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 13, 2014, 10:45:17 am
One hopes they're cheaper than chains!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 13, 2014, 10:45:50 am
Nice shiny bike there Si. Need to attack mine with Autosol.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 13, 2014, 06:19:15 pm
Part of the run on the A6042 from Holmfirth. http://youtu.be/sX18MO3Qej4
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on March 13, 2014, 07:54:15 pm
Going for a nice spin with my brother to thunder road tomorrow. *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 13, 2014, 07:55:01 pm
Thunder road? Where's that?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on March 14, 2014, 02:20:32 pm
It's a bike shop in Bridgend. Just got back,not the best fun I've had on a bike. Freezing fog and a 10 metre visibility for most of it!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 14, 2014, 02:22:26 pm
Oh dear. I decided to have a tootle back the long way today, then the gusts started up which made it less fun, so I came home. Still, got 30 odd milesin.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 14, 2014, 03:40:02 pm
10 metres? god you was lucky!! been a matter of metres for the past couple days in the morning.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 14, 2014, 04:05:18 pm
Been no fog at all here.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on March 14, 2014, 04:36:19 pm
The worst thing was it was sunny for the first mile so I wore a dark visor. Rode there with the visor open the rest of the way so my face was frozen when I got there. I looked as if I'd had Botox!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 14, 2014, 04:40:04 pm
Ah, this is where I got a flip down sun visor! You seen those photo-chromatic ones? Quite impressive.
Thinking about cameras, seen this lot below, I either want a lot of bang for buck, or I want mega cheap but not totally shit...
What do people think:
GoPro-alike (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281278963307?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) (although the Drift HD can be obtained for ~£100 used now)
Drift 170 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151249756399?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) with a minor issue, batter catch is knackered, but one assumes a bit of wedged card, laggy band or gaffer tape might solve the issue.
GoPro Hero 3 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111298715833?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT), but seems a bit cheap.
Another GoPro-alike (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111297778619?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) seems like it may be the best VFM, but against that Drift 170 package for the price...?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: johnbow on March 14, 2014, 09:01:01 pm
My mate is well into his go pro gear. I'm seeing him tomorrow,I'll ask him for his opinion if you want and if no one else chimes in?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 14, 2014, 09:03:19 pm
Cheers! After one for my training and for recording numpties should the worst happen.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on March 15, 2014, 05:30:17 pm
i`ll be making my debut tomorrow. either hunstanton,skeggy or scarboro
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 15, 2014, 05:32:29 pm
De butt? Hope not!! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on March 15, 2014, 05:34:22 pm
first appearance of the year
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 15, 2014, 05:36:06 pm
Had visions of a butt slide down the road! Wind is up around Leeds, so take it easy.
You've missed all the quiet roads this year now, won't be able to move for fair weather bikers soon! ;)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on March 15, 2014, 05:40:35 pm
git
mind you..iv`e done 26,000k already this year....so you`ll understand if i don`t spend too much of my free time on the road.
*blink*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 15, 2014, 05:41:50 pm
26k in 10 weeks or whatever it is? Indeed I don't blame you!! I'm about to not see my bike for nearly 4 weeks :(
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on March 15, 2014, 05:45:07 pm
yep...got this new,first day back after xmas.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 15, 2014, 05:54:42 pm
Nice n shiny!!! I had a lesson on one once, just a laugh in a private car park. The driver thought I was a ringer :)
Turns out an agricultural background helps with 45' trailers. :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on March 15, 2014, 06:04:44 pm
how come you won`t see your bike for so long?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 15, 2014, 06:18:34 pm
Working in Europe, can't take the bike sadly :(
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on March 15, 2014, 06:23:53 pm
what do you do?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 15, 2014, 06:26:24 pm
As little as I can get away with :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 16, 2014, 04:45:31 pm
Bike withdrawal syndrome... Second day not in the saddle....
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on March 16, 2014, 05:41:57 pm
went mablethorpe this morning,then north towards grimsby,and across the m180 back towards donny.picked up the a614 all the way to bawtry and then into sherwood forest,through mansfield,and finally clay cross for a cuppa at the bike shop.
225-250 miles i reckon...no problem on the tiger. couple more similar runs,should see me "bike fit" for scotland in may.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 16, 2014, 05:45:15 pm
Weds after Easter doing a wending merry way across, up and around the Pennines, if you're not working, you're welcome to join the DOUK bunch.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on March 16, 2014, 05:50:03 pm
back to work on the wednesday,i`m afraid.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: SpikeK6 on March 17, 2014, 09:54:47 am
Lurch, if you like reading up on stuff tke look at this forum http://goprouser.freeforums.org/ (http://goprouser.freeforums.org/) it will give an excellent insight into all stuff GoPro.
I have the hero 3 black and its absolutely brillient, had it on the bike a few times and its works very well, very clear and loadsof different options
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Post by: fr499y on March 17, 2014, 09:56:37 am
i went with the silver and not the black, the silver just seemed to give you nicer, richer colours and just as clear as the black for a fair bit less :) I'll have to hook it up to the beemer next ride out i have :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: SpikeK6 on March 17, 2014, 10:03:41 am
I only got the black as it was on special offer as I was going for the silver, glad i did now though as the remote is soooo useful.
Go pro on front of bike and remote in the tank bag, switch it on and off when ever i like.
Get the go pro 3 not the 3+ as they had issues with the lens on the early 3+ ones
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 17, 2014, 10:04:29 am
Which did you get? The 3 or the 2?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: SpikeK6 on March 17, 2014, 10:07:38 am
I have the hero 3 black.
Got it at a good price.
Love mine, so many uses,
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 17, 2014, 10:08:47 am
The pricing for GoPro makes no sense. Some 2s are more then 3s, it's all over the shop.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: SpikeK6 on March 17, 2014, 10:11:54 am
This is the one I got http://www.amazon.co.uk/GoPro-Hero-Edition-Camcorder-Black/dp/B009TCD8V8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395051058&sr=8-1&keywords=gopro+hero+3+black (http://www.amazon.co.uk/GoPro-Hero-Edition-Camcorder-Black/dp/B009TCD8V8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395051058&sr=8-1&keywords=gopro+hero+3+black)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 17, 2014, 02:10:33 pm
Just spotted the SJ4000 review on Techmoan.
GoPro copy, it's pretty blatant, although a few buttons in different places. £75 does;t seem too bad though, and the pictures look OK, far better than spending £200+ I think as a starter.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: sexysi on March 17, 2014, 02:24:16 pm
Sounds like a bike SJ4000..... 4 Litre Honda *grin*
si
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 17, 2014, 03:44:12 pm
That would be something!!
I was talking to my Dad yesterday, ended up talking about emergency bikes being 1200 RTs or 1300 STs, and he was astonished. Doesn't see the point of any engine size over 650cc. Despite pointing out that the economy of an RT or an ST isn't far off the economy of my 650, he wasn't having it!
He originally thought I'd have been best off with a 250cc bike for getting about on too. Id hate to bash up and down motorways on something that light...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 17, 2014, 03:55:44 pm
i nearly bought a 1700cc bike lol. The 100 mile tank range put me off though!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on March 17, 2014, 03:57:21 pm
Might have mentioned it before, but a chap with a GL1800 said he was getting 55-60mpg off it. Not sure what tank size they have, can't be smaller than mine, and I can do 180m to the reserve, not that I ever let it get that far.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on March 17, 2014, 04:05:38 pm
there huge, we had one of the 'plain jane' GL1000. The GL is a flat 6 so a different type of engine all together, not a high reving engine and come in at a little under half a tonne! 25L tank i believe on them. The one i was looking at was a 1700cc V-twin with a poxy 15L tank lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: SpikeK6 on March 17, 2014, 04:20:02 pm
GoPro copy, it's pretty blatant, although a few buttons in different places. £75 does;t seem too bad though, and the pictures look OK, far better than spending £200+ I think as a starter.
It all depends on what you actually want it for, I have a lot more uses for my go pro than just the bike, so it was worth it for me, but like you say for a starter it will/should be fine, just hope you do not like it too much then want a proper go pro and end up spending out again.
My 1200 gsa will get 55-60 mpg depending on how I ride it and with a 33 ltr tank on it I get pretty far. normally 100-150 miles on a bike in one stint is more than enough but I do have the option if i am mile munching to go that extra miles, thats why I bought it, as sometimes I just like to get out of France so mile munch the first part of the journey and cruise the rest, did nealry 600 miles in one day with the mrs on the back a couple of years ago just to get out of france and into Italy which is where our trip started really
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 17, 2014, 04:29:44 pm
That's some tank, my car is only 50ish.
As for the camera, just for capturing the ride really, I don't do anything else. On second thoughts, a Drift or bullet style might suit as I can helmet mount it then. Not figured out the best way really. I figure it'd be handy for insurance quibbles should they arise, or reporting dicks to the police. Some special cases in Leeds from the private hire taxis. Speeding, tailgating, cutting up traffic. Had one U-turn across me in the car, then had the audacity to beep at me for driving under the speed limit in the left of two lanes.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 17, 2014, 04:49:47 pm
Found a drift hd for £110, manufacturer refurb.
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Post by: fr499y on March 18, 2014, 10:34:33 am
http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/?gclid=COqAsZTxm70CFUsUwwodHbMA-w Dogcam bullet 2 is brilliant.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 24, 2014, 12:28:13 pm
I fancy a ride, shame my bike is 1500 miles away....
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 30, 2014, 06:36:52 pm
So, there's a 1998 Pan up for grabs...
He wants to swap for a Deauville, however he has stated he thinks his bike is worth £2800. I'm thinking I've seen newer for significantly cheaper (£2000). So assuming he wants top end for his bike, mine top end (as it has all the extras) is then worth maybe £2400.
Do we think it's worth talking? My bike + a bit of cash might work, but as a realistic price on mine is probably £1800, it's not worth adding a grand for an old Pan, admittedly with only 27k on the clock. He's also a member of the DV owners forum, and has previously owned a DV.
Any one got any thoughts on this? The Pan is an itch I do want to scratch, but I do still like the DV...
The other, probably silly thing is it's green, I really like the deep red Pans.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on March 30, 2014, 06:51:26 pm
Booked a test ride for next weekend on a new gsxr750 - slightly excited!
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 30, 2014, 06:52:46 pm
Do you have to leave your first born as collateral?
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Post by: fr499y on March 30, 2014, 08:48:36 pm
tbf his OTT with the price. and im guessing its the 1100 pan, £2,000 would pick you up a decent one.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 30, 2014, 08:52:32 pm
Indeed the 1100, looking on Autotrader doesn't help price it either, they go up to £4k!
I believe this bike is absolutely mint, so that is a plus.
Any independent thoughts on what my 98 650 Deauville with slim a deep panniers, and both touring and sports screen, as well as heated grips, modified fuel pump and much sought after hand deflectors? I don't think £1800 is unreasonable, though needs a buff and polish, plus almost inevitable small scuff on the pannier lid.
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Post by: fr499y on March 30, 2014, 09:15:27 pm
sounds ideal to me
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 30, 2014, 09:17:20 pm
So my bike + £200 then? :)
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Post by: fr499y on March 30, 2014, 09:20:49 pm
I'd personally keep the deauville *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 30, 2014, 09:21:06 pm
Whys that?
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Post by: fr499y on March 31, 2014, 08:31:23 am
i just find them better all rounders than the pan. Then again, I'm basing it on the ST1300 not the ST1100 your looking at =]
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 31, 2014, 03:55:49 pm
The die hards seem to prefer the 11. I'll carry in thinking about it. If it's there when I get back, I'll ask the question. Maybe!
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Post by: jaffa1963 on March 31, 2014, 05:04:12 pm
Id happily ride either as long as i keep what i have now as well lol. Im a firm believer that any bike you enjoy riding is the perfect bike. And any bike is better than none.
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Post by: lurch1000 on March 31, 2014, 05:05:43 pm
I use my bike for more than pleasure, and detachable larger panniers would be a big plus.
I'd be tempted by a KGT if it wasn't a dry clutch.
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Post by: fr499y on April 01, 2014, 10:23:21 am
KGT? BMW K1600GT?
if so, no BMW that i know of has a dry clutch, they just noisy as hell lol!
If its for pleasure with the added bonus of being able to fill it up and do distance, why not look at FJR?
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Post by: SpikeK6 on April 01, 2014, 10:35:44 am
if so, no BMW that i know of has a dry clutch, they just noisy as hell lol!
If its for pleasure with the added bonus of being able to fill it up and do distance, why not look at FJR?
Depending on your terminology of a dry clutch but nearly all the big beemers have a dry clutch, as in the gearbox and engine are separate units just like a car, no oil surrounds the clutch plates at any time unless a seal goes. Cannot be certain on the K1600Gt but my GSA and all the other models of the GSA have dry clutches
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Post by: SpikeK6 on April 01, 2014, 10:37:01 am
I use my bike for more than pleasure, and detachable larger panniers would be a big plus.
I'd be tempted by a KGT if it wasn't a dry clutch.
Nothing wrong with a dry clutch system, why do you not like them??
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 01, 2014, 03:49:40 pm
K1200GT is a dry clutch.
Dry clutches can't be feathered for as long as wet ones, and they WILL need changing with city use, at £600+ a go, and you have to break the bike in half to do it. I'd be buying used, and I'll not know the history as to what use it has.
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Post by: fr499y on April 02, 2014, 10:13:48 am
if so, no BMW that i know of has a dry clutch, they just noisy as hell lol!
If its for pleasure with the added bonus of being able to fill it up and do distance, why not look at FJR?
Depending on your terminology of a dry clutch but nearly all the big beemers have a dry clutch, as in the gearbox and engine are separate units just like a car, no oil surrounds the clutch plates at any time unless a seal goes. Cannot be certain on the K1600Gt but my GSA and all the other models of the GSA have dry clutches
Yes they are sepererate BUT i think you will find they are oil lubricated clutches, there for are not dry clutches!
Quote from BMW *Oil lubricated clutch*
a dry dry clutch has no oil going near it, like Ducati's for instance ;)
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 02, 2014, 10:33:31 am
Well, you don't hear of true wet clutches going that often, but you hear about GT/LT clutches going all the time.
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Post by: fr499y on April 02, 2014, 10:42:39 am
yeah i suppose that's because there not oil bathed clutches but are oil lubricated clutches.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 02, 2014, 11:02:08 am
Anyway, if I was to buy brand new, then maybe a BMW as I'd get full life from the clutch, I don't want to spend good money on a bike then need a clutch 5 minutes later.
Got some more info on the Pan, got plenty of extras, but no top box, so that's an extra £100-£200 on top straight away.
He got his price from MCN, who also have some DVs advertised at under a grand. Seems a bit low to say the least. eBay has several Pans for under £2500 which is more like it for me.
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Post by: fr499y on April 02, 2014, 11:08:21 am
Aye, biketrader would be worth a look as well, can pick up some bargains! I picked up a few bikes for £350 each, even got a thunderace for well under a grand! ( fair enough, had a hole in the case which ended up costing £200 for a engine! )
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 02, 2014, 07:04:40 pm
I sent him the info on mine, see what he comes back with.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 06, 2014, 05:36:03 pm
So I went on the Suzuki test ride day today..........
Bought a new gsxr 750 yoshimura!
That really wasnt my plan!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 06, 2014, 06:05:38 pm
Whoops!!! :)
Week away from my bike!! :)
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 06, 2014, 06:21:02 pm
All in all, a pretty good Sunday!! (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/07/ydy3ysu3.jpg)
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Post by: johnbow on April 06, 2014, 06:53:44 pm
yeah i suppose that's because there not oil bathed clutches but are oil lubricated clutches.
Id like to know what you mean by that, as my 1200 boxer engine along with all the other boxer engines that they make are certainly not oil lubricated, when I stripped mine to change it it is exactly the same as any car clutch, a plate a preasure plate and a release bearing. There is a bar that works off an plunger which is worked from the clutch lever, now that is hydrolic, and it does not work off clutch fluid like other hydrolic clutches it works off BMW own "oil" Bloomin expensive it is too, so maybe this is what you are refering too?
But the clutch is certainly dry and if oil touches it it slips the same as any other dry clutch whether it be car or ducati.
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Post by: fr499y on April 08, 2014, 03:25:04 pm
Yes. I could be getting mixed up the other BMW's with the noisy arse clutch that a lot of people refer to as a dry clutch! I know with the likes of ducati ( had a monster s2r 1000 ) you only need engine oil, no special 'gearbox' oil like the BMW, might be why im getting wires crossed?
How do you find the 1200? I have a F800 and got so pissed off with the throttle response and the lack of low speed/town riding control that i ordered a boosterplug. Thing has completely transformed the bike! its now smoother than a lot of the big fours i've owned
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Post by: SpikeK6 on April 08, 2014, 10:06:06 pm
I love it. I got the booster plug fitted to mine too it does take the edge off and make it smoother I would have nothing else now. It has plenty power does everything I want it too. It tours it will take B roads all day long and just loves Aroads. Oh and 350mile tank fills means I stop when I want to not when the tank says I have too.
Even had it round the nurburgh ring two up lol.
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Post by: sexysi on April 09, 2014, 08:42:54 am
In thought you motorbike guys would like these 2 adverts I have dug up.
First is Aston Martins new add for used AM's
The 2nd a 70's posted that is not very PC today, but made me laugh.
All in all, a pretty good Sunday!! (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/07/ydy3ysu3.jpg)
nice gixer...
here are a couple of my old gixers. the yellow one is a 600 and the blue one a 1000. *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 12, 2014, 03:51:51 pm
What? No panniers AND you have to lean forwards?
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Post by: dropscale on April 12, 2014, 03:57:52 pm
are you still in the market for a new motor?if so,i reckon either a nice tidy blackbird,busa or zzr would suit your needs perfectly. stick on some removable luggage,and you have an incredibly versatile bike.there are some cherished examples around aswell.....that won`t cost a fortune.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 12, 2014, 03:58:41 pm
As long as they're shaft drive and won't need a clutch... :)
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Post by: dropscale on April 12, 2014, 04:06:36 pm
As long as they're shaft drive and won't need a clutch... :)
a what drive?
;)
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 12, 2014, 04:08:24 pm
SHAFT!
Speaking of which, search "ukulele orchestra of Great Britain - Shaft" on YouTube.
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Post by: paulca on April 12, 2014, 08:37:21 pm
Pedestrian herding.
So I was sitting at the lights on my way home from work and these 2 kids run up to the traffic island. There was no pedestrian crossing there so the kids checked and double checked that we are all sitting waiting at the lights before going for the run across.
Right at the perfect moment just as they moved I subtly blipped the throttle, just 500 revs for a fraction of a second was enough to bring both kids to a halt, nearly falling over each other they turned in shock, eyes wide before pelting the rest of the way across. I know it's a little cruel but it was funny as f**k.
Independently/coincidentally I found this today on You Tube.
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Post by: dropscale on April 12, 2014, 09:20:33 pm
olivers mount tomorrow. Pics to follow
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 17, 2014, 04:40:00 pm
Little YouTube clip for Sacha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXKZ_cYoil0
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 17, 2014, 06:51:11 pm
I posted this on the DV forum, but thought I'd ask here...
Paint question for you.
As a ball park, anyone got an idea what price I could expect to pay for some cosmetic work on the bike? There are scratches on the pannier lids, a bit on the main fairing in front of my knee that will need a bit of glue residue fine sanding and a blow-over and a couple of odd chips here and there.
The engine casing needs a damn good cleaning, and possibly a repaint, although if I could get that done professionally at a good price, I might consider that too. The wheels would benefit from touching up, if a match can be obtained for the paint to avoid repainting the whole wheel. The wheels also need a good de-grime in the hard-to-get bits, although I'm not sure I fancy removing the wheels myself to facilitate the cleaning. I had the front fork seals done last year, I should have taken the front wheel away at the point to clean it up then, but that's 20:20 hindsight for you.
I am also considering replacing the mirrors as there are scratches on the plastic coating, I suspect I'd have to buy new as second hand ones without scratches might be hard to come by, and maybe not that much cheaper.
I could go full labour or love and take as much plastic off as I can and fully clean and degrease all the engine, get the carbs off and clean fully in the middle of the V as that seems to trap dirt. I did give it a blast out at the last service when I had the fairings off and sorted out the weep from the rocker gasket, so it's not too bad, but it's not perfect.
I'm still in two minds as to whether to scratch the Pan itch or not, but depending on the cost of painting, it may well pay for itself. If I keep it, my bike stays nice and shiny. If I do sell, I'd certainly not part-ex as that would see the bike at less than £1000, and it's worth more as it stands. Been looking at prices, and they're still as varied as ever, £1400-£2500 seems to be the range for a late-90s bike with 45k on the clock, how and where mine fits I don't know. I have working heated grips, hand deflectors, Honda tall screen, standard screen, both sets of pannier lids, colour coded top box on the genuine mount, service history to death, most by Honda, the rest up to 2012 by the same Honda mechanic. The fuel pump has the diode mod on it, and I have upgraded the headlight to HID. If I sold it, I'd be tempted to remove all the extras, and sell the bike with standard screen, narrow panniers and the heated grips, then sell the extras separate and decide on whether to sell the top box or transfer it to the replacement depending if it had one on it or not.
Any thoughts or guides on prices for these bits that need doing would be appreciated.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 19, 2014, 10:22:35 am
Doing a ride out from CMC Clay Cross on the 27th. Gonna head across to Glossop then back to Chesterfield if anyone is interested? It's with the DV owners, but don't let that put you off :)
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Post by: dropscale on April 19, 2014, 12:33:22 pm
that`s my local bike shop.might tag on if the weather`s fine *grin* where ya goin after breakfast *grin* *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 19, 2014, 12:35:23 pm
CMC at 10-10.30, think might be food there then ride around noon. Because people are coming from a little way from CMC, they're making getting there and back a ride. Drop me a PM if you're coming. Where you based?
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Post by: dropscale on April 19, 2014, 12:37:45 pm
i`m in south normanton.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 19, 2014, 12:51:21 pm
Someone has to I suppose!!' *grin*
I'll keep you posted as to what's happening. I'm going to head there one if two ways, A61 or I'll end up doing Huddersfield and down the 629 or something like that.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 20, 2014, 09:49:05 pm
Had my first RoSPA session today, went very well!! Hopefully the sign of things to come...
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 23, 2014, 10:54:51 am
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Post by: fr499y on April 23, 2014, 12:48:25 pm
drift HD?
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 23, 2014, 01:03:45 pm
Indeed. Refurb, 1 year warranty from Discount Cameras which are part of Action Cameras who are the UK Drift distributors.
Just awaiting my SD card and bar clamp to arrive. The camera was a 2-3 delivery and the SD and mount "fast and free" off eBay, camera arrived the next working day (ordered Easter Sunday) and the other bits haven't made it yet...
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Post by: fr499y on April 23, 2014, 01:06:15 pm
ooo! *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 23, 2014, 01:07:37 pm
Couldn't quite stretch as far as a Ghost or GoPro... :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 23, 2014, 03:01:07 pm
I've set up a YouTube channel too, not that there's anything there at the minute, but should be next week after my Peak District run this weekend.
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Post by: johnbow on April 23, 2014, 04:06:43 pm
Ooh,new toys! *grin* Let us know when your you tube footage is up and where to go.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 23, 2014, 04:08:08 pm
It's going to be scenic footage and any other clips that are of interest or entertaining (read: fails!).
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 25, 2014, 10:18:06 pm
Camera is a bit fubarred - http://youtu.be/vZlexO0gw94
That's 720p/30fps, grainy as hell, but they're gonna take it back thankfully.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 09:23:32 pm
Got a feeling it's gonna be a wet ride tomorrow. Never mind! Better than sitting indoors! :)
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 09:27:53 pm
Good luck mate, safe ride. Picked the gixxer up yesterday - what a machine (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/yvejere9.jpg)
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 09:29:14 pm
Funny looking Pan ;)
Looks smart! Picked it up and rode home or just delivered?
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 09:41:56 pm
Rode home yesterday, well when I say home, the dealer is 10 miles from me but I somehow forgot my way home and it ended up taking me 100 miles back...!
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 09:52:29 pm
My Asda is 1.3 miles away. I bought some bananas from there and when I got home somehow the speedo had notched up 40 odd miles... Goes well then? What cc is it?
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 09:57:04 pm
Haha, yeah it's a cracker. 750cc
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 09:58:41 pm
It's not a bike I can see myself owning, but I can see myself having a go on one. Somehow I think I'd always stick to tourers. Who knows! I'll go for a track day at some point, see what I think to that style of bike.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:01:01 pm
I have always favoured naked sports bikes and people always told me that they didn't really deserve to have sport in their title and should stick to a street fighter class. I tried a few super sports out a few weeks back and was immediately taken. The gsxr750 was the pick of the bunch for me and so I had to go for it
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:02:20 pm
Sweet. By the way, can you see my YouTube link? Does it work, and do you think it's grainy as hell (look at the binnacle) it's meant to be 720p
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:05:37 pm
The Honda cg clip?
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:06:08 pm
Eh? No, learning to Bingley it's called.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:06:21 pm
Leeming....
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:06:37 pm
Hang on will search for it
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:06:56 pm
http://youtu.be/vZlexO0gw94
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:09:03 pm
Just watched the first two mins and its a little grainy but on the iPhone it doesn't look too bad to be honest
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:09:21 pm
That link plays up on Tapatalk, try this: www.youtube.com/embed/vZlexO0gw94 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/vZlexO0gw94)
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:10:23 pm
Just watched the first two mins and its a little grainy but on the iPhone it doesn't look too bad to be honest
I think for a Drift HD camera which was originally £250 before they brought out the Ghost it's pretty piss poor, there's a link to footage from the same camera (someone else's) in the description, worlds apart.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:11:15 pm
Those links just freeze then close down my tapatalk
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:11:48 pm
For that kind of kit it is poor mate
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:12:04 pm
I had a look at it, it appears the combination of two of the characters makes some smiley or other.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:13:48 pm
Admittedly mine is a manufacturer refurb, but even so, refurb is meant to be as new. They're being pretty good about it, and I'm sending it back on Monday. I was hoping to get some footage tomorrow, but if it's going to be that wet and the camera has to go back, I'll not risk it. I'll see what they say, but I might bite the bullet and get a new Ghost. I'm tempted by a Ghost-S, but I'm not sure it's worth the extra money.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:15:12 pm
Not looked at the spec of the S, the ghost is the nuts and so if the S is genuinely an upgrade it must be a hell of a bit of kit
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:16:46 pm
S takes a bigger SD card and the lens rotates further and can do 1080/60 and 720/120, where as the Ghost can take a 32GB, 1080 is 30fos and 720 is 60fps
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:20:24 pm
How much more is it? Nice spec
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:21:05 pm
Ghost is £250 and the S is £330 (RRP).
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:21:42 pm
S does have other features, auto adjusts to low light, the only Drift that doesn't need manually changing.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:22:20 pm
I guess the only question is how quickly will the next model come out!
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:22:58 pm
Ghost has been out a year. Don't think they go mental with development.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:25:32 pm
I would be seriously tempted to get the S for £80 more, would they take yours back in exchange if you kicked off?
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:29:44 pm
They don't sell the Ghosts. They're called Discount cameras, and deal with the B stock and refurb from Action Cameras who are the UK distributors for Drift.
It's kinda under the 7 day DSRs anyway, so I'm covered one way or another, and bought through eBay, so I have their back up too.
£330 though (I have a 10% code to take off that), it's a good chunk of money... Might see it for less on fleabay, but who are you dealign with if it's that cheap... Drift don't need to sell cheap. They're up there with GoPro.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:33:31 pm
True. Not sure if sportsbikeshop sell them but if so, they normally offer discount codes if you like their Facebook page
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:34:15 pm
If it's more than 10% maybe!!! :)
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 26, 2014, 10:37:05 pm
There was recently a 15% off all orders over £199...
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 26, 2014, 10:37:41 pm
Hmm, that'd make it £285...
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Post by: dropscale on April 27, 2014, 12:44:28 am
still on for the ride out?
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 27, 2014, 08:28:05 am
Clay Cross 10am ish. Mines a red T reg Deauville, think there will be 4 DVs there. Bring your wet weather gear!! :)
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Post by: Mol_PMB on April 27, 2014, 08:39:52 am
Enjoy :)
I'll be staying safely at home as have a load of fishy stuff to sort out. The MTS are already drawing lines in the sand in the 2-footer :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 27, 2014, 04:48:44 pm
Stayed dry - hurrah! Other DV owners got there late, so we cut the route a little short, but a good ride! Did you change your mind dropscale or was my reply too late to get out?
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Post by: dropscale on April 27, 2014, 04:50:53 pm
too much vino,i`m afraid.the weather forecast was offputting aswell.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 27, 2014, 04:52:59 pm
Best to leave the vino out of it! Weather held out though, just a 5 minute drizzle near home.
Pulled up next to a miserable looking woman at the lights, so I waved to her. She didn't look impressed!!! No pleasing some people! :)
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Post by: dropscale on April 27, 2014, 05:05:21 pm
glad you had fun *applause*
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 27, 2014, 05:07:05 pm
Nice one, just got back from a quick blast myself
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 27, 2014, 05:10:35 pm
Carved through Huddersfield like a knife! Sunday afternoon drivers...
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 28, 2014, 09:43:31 am
Can't see any discounts on SBS :( 15% or more would have swayed me on an S.
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Post by: jonnyedwards1981 on April 28, 2014, 11:02:04 am
It was last month mate but worth liking their fb page for future offers
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 28, 2014, 09:31:31 pm
If anyone is about on Thursday and wants a pootle, let me know.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 29, 2014, 02:22:59 pm
Posted this in fr499y's thread due to butterfingers on Tapatalk....
Loony day today.... Pulled up along side a Honda CRX at the lights. Looking at the driver and the road ahead, I knew what he'd do... Not sure he was expecting a fat tourer to leave him for dead :D
Anyway, adding to that, I just decided to go get a Ghost :)
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Post by: plankton on April 29, 2014, 02:47:23 pm
.... :ghost2: :ghost2: :ghost1:
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 29, 2014, 02:48:38 pm
You know why I bought a Ghost Ian?....
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Post by: plankton on April 29, 2014, 02:54:09 pm
...because you felt the Spirit of adventure?
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 29, 2014, 02:55:03 pm
Maybe... Pacman keeps chasing me.
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Post by: fr499y on April 29, 2014, 04:01:10 pm
then buy cherries! pacman loves cherries!
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 29, 2014, 04:02:31 pm
Is that it? :)
Did I mention the young lady who worked in Hein Gericke?
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Post by: fr499y on April 29, 2014, 04:05:43 pm
well you know what they say, Pics are worth a thousand words *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 29, 2014, 04:07:07 pm
I'm sure I mentioned her when I got the HG gear last autumn. Anyway. As HG closed, she's now working at Get Geared. What extra gear do I need... :D
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Post by: johnbow on April 29, 2014, 04:13:49 pm
Wouldn't you be better off financially asking the shop owner's daughter out instead? *buba*
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 29, 2014, 04:15:19 pm
Hehe! I'll need some more rainex before long anyway :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 29, 2014, 07:09:28 pm
Uploading our Snake Pass jaunt to YouTube. 25 minutes, 2.3GB, 20% done, 388 minutes remaining... I have a download on the go as well, but still, it sucks!!!
Anyway, think I'll do a tour de Leeds tomorrow with the Ghost, see how it goes!
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 02:28:36 am
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Post by: johnbow on April 30, 2014, 09:01:29 am
Looks like a fun day out! I like your camera,how have you mounted it?
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 09:04:15 am
The Drift curved helmet mount, just sticks the the side of the helmet.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 09:10:47 am
Like this:
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/30/ure6e2en.jpg)
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Post by: johnbow on April 30, 2014, 09:18:01 am
Nice! It gives a really nice steady picture,handy for evidence when you get cut up by someone on their mobile phone :censored2:
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 09:37:48 am
Yup! I've hot a handle bar mount too if I want to use it.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 02:59:30 pm
Ghost is WAY clearer than that Drift. Did a lap of Leeds, and also just tried the handlebar mount on the mirror stalk to the shopping centre and back, looks like it might be pointing a tad low due to the shape of the stalk, but we'll see how it looks when I pull it off the camera on to the computer.
Will upload to YT later and post links when they're processed.
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Post by: Sacha on April 30, 2014, 03:15:07 pm
Fantastic- glad to hear it worked out. Look forward to seeing some footage.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 03:31:18 pm
Shame the Snake footage was so poor, cracking scenery.
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 04:03:53 pm
Thinking about the mirror stalk, how to make it rounder but not bigger to allow a better camera angle. Shame the Drift bracket won't adjust in two planes.
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Post by: DoubleDutch on April 30, 2014, 06:22:52 pm
When I see posts in this thread they're always from Lurch hahaha. Looks like a Lurch-only topic !!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 06:36:24 pm
Cos the rest of them are fair weather jessies! ;)
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Post by: DoubleDutch on April 30, 2014, 06:38:55 pm
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 07:18:00 pm
I'll come back to you if/when it opens.... :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on April 30, 2014, 11:04:23 pm
High speed Leeds!
http://youtu.be/0irD4dxSKQg
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 06:39:40 pm
Ride out today, just shy of 8 hours out the house! Bloody brilliant!
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Post by: Mol_PMB on May 02, 2014, 07:03:12 pm
Thought you were quiet ;)
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 07:23:17 pm
Haha! I'll send the Harley guys around to your in the middle of the night :)
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Post by: DoubleDutch on May 02, 2014, 08:20:56 pm
Paul's new "friends"(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/03/u8e2ebyg.jpg)
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Post by: Mol_PMB on May 02, 2014, 08:32:01 pm
Reminds me of that sign 'Jap bikes will be crushed' :P
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 08:32:27 pm
Oi!
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 08:32:53 pm
:)
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Post by: Mol_PMB on May 02, 2014, 08:38:50 pm
You bikers are easy to wind up.
Well especially those of you that have a bike nearly as big as a goldwing. I'm surprised you haven't got a caravan to pull behind it...
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 08:39:30 pm
Who has a bike as big as a Goldwing?!
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Post by: Mol_PMB on May 02, 2014, 08:41:45 pm
I was thinking of yours :P
It weighs as much as a smart car!
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 08:43:31 pm
I once got asked if mine was a Goldwing when I was waiting for someone in Taunton. Even if you don't know bikes, everyone knows the Goldwing is a couple of armchairs strapped to a bike...
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Post by: DoubleDutch on May 02, 2014, 08:45:17 pm
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/03/2a4a9y2e.jpg) Born to be wilddddddddd !!!
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Post by: Mol_PMB on May 02, 2014, 08:46:30 pm
Brilliant :) *applause* *applause* I didn't see that in your garage...
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 08:46:44 pm
Or this... (Goldwing trike)
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Post by: Mol_PMB on May 02, 2014, 08:48:00 pm
I note the copper in the wing mirror reflection...
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 08:49:23 pm
It's not a copper guessing from the mirror being on a stalk.
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 08:50:15 pm
I note the copper in the wing mirror reflection...
You've not seen my jacket yet then... I've been asked if I was a copper before :)
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Post by: Mol_PMB on May 02, 2014, 08:59:11 pm
Were you a copper before? Or did you nick a jacket off one?
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 02, 2014, 09:18:36 pm
Neither... It's just predominantly bright hi-viz yellow. You see the people who creep out of side turnings suddenly jam their brakes on when they see me, never used to do that when I had a black jacket or with just a hi-viz vest...
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Post by: Mol_PMB on May 03, 2014, 08:31:36 am
I think those chequerboard marking make it look more police-like.
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Post by: Sacha on May 03, 2014, 08:43:55 am
I'm gonna get one of these:
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/321298931684?nav=SEARCH
You look just like police from a distance.
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 03, 2014, 09:07:54 am
Paul - you can buy ex-police jackets!
Sacha - good way to get beaten up :)
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Post by: DoubleDutch on May 03, 2014, 09:09:15 am
Think an Hells Angels Jacket would be more safe???
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 03, 2014, 09:10:04 am
Probably, unless you came across a rival group. Look a bit odd on a touring bike too!
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Post by: DoubleDutch on May 03, 2014, 09:12:28 am
Yeah there is a war going on overhere : Hell's Angels, Satudara, No Surrender, Bandidos. Think I stick to my (pedal)bike !!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 03, 2014, 04:21:26 pm
Non blurry Snake Pass: http://youtu.be/8Q9zWx81MIo
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Post by: DoubleDutch on May 03, 2014, 04:47:47 pm
Really great Damian !!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 03, 2014, 04:50:59 pm
140 miles yesterday, out for 8 hours all in, 100 miles today, out for just over 4 hours.
Both days, less than £30 including food and refreshments, can't beat it, and it feels great! Today was harder work as it was my RoSPA training and we were on it all the time bar stopping to discuss the ride and things to consider for the next stretch of road. Still bloody marvellous though!
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Post by: ianjw on May 05, 2014, 08:27:42 am
If you're after a police spec jacket, Scott leathers in Barnard castle do them. Warm, dry and bright as you could wish for :-)
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Post by: sexysi on May 08, 2014, 01:25:12 pm
Just over a month to go now, before this little 5 day rideout.
Tent sorted, new sleeping bag, Lomo watertight bag sorted, sat nav sorted and Go pro sorted. just service the bike 6,000mile serice. Last thing to get is a new set of tyres.
happy Days.
si
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 08, 2014, 01:26:10 pm
Nice! Quite jealous!!
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Post by: DoubleDutch on May 08, 2014, 09:15:58 pm
One little detail : you missed Holland hahaha. Nice trip (besides that little "mistake")
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 17, 2014, 02:02:35 pm
I want a Nuda 900...
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Post by: dropscale on May 18, 2014, 12:51:39 pm
superbikes at donnington next sunday...then scotland.
here is this years support car,pictured at olivers mount earlier this year *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 18, 2014, 01:03:14 pm
I'd show em up on my DV... :)
Reminds me, need to look up track days still. Need one that'll supply bikes and leathers as I don't have either suitable for a track...
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Post by: SpikeK6 on May 18, 2014, 11:02:28 pm
I am sure, unless they have changed the rules you can wear full textiles as long as they zip together.
Hiring a bike sounds like fun but in reality it can be a right pain.
I remember about 6 years ago a mate of mine hired a bike and R6 as he had just bought his R6 and did not want ot track day it, anyway first session the brakes went funny so missed the second session as they tried to fix it, they would not alter the suspension for him even though it was handling like a pile of poo then to top it all off in the thrid session he went up on the rumble strip and they said once more and we will take the bike off you.
He ended up saying keep the bike and went round on his new bike.
My advice would be take your bike and go in novice group and you will be fine, you do not have to be Rossie to do a track day
Here is me going under the old dunlop bridge at Donnington at around 140MPH on my 04 CBR600RR, this was 2006 and me passing my other mate on the outside just after the old hairpin and into starkeys bridge
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 18, 2014, 11:03:56 pm
I've only got the Deauville... :) just want to try a track day, then decide on whether to buy a CBR :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 18, 2014, 11:18:25 pm
I'd have to see the appropriate zip to my jacket if I did that too... :)
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Post by: SpikeK6 on May 19, 2014, 07:31:39 am
I loved that CBR600RR of mine, had it for 5 years, I did Donningtom 4 times on it then sold it and bought an R1 and did Donnington again and was slower than on the 600. I also went round the Nurburghring on it, managed under 10 mins too, just mind 9.28 ha ha , it never missed a beat that bike, I still see it from time to time now.
If I remember right when my mate hired the bike, the hire of a bike is around £3-400 with a hefty deposit thrown in. I would be tempted to buy for a little bit more an older CBR 600, do the track day see what you think and away you go. just a word of warning track days are addictive, worse than any drug, so be warned that the first will not be your last ha ha!!!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 19, 2014, 09:48:01 am
Anyone free on Friday?
Halifax - Grassington via Bronte Country, back via Blubberhouses, Ilkley and Shipley. 65 miles, starting probably 9.30-10am.
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 20, 2014, 07:33:58 pm
Got N-com installed in my helmet now! Anyone else had Nolan N-com?
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Post by: Sacha on May 20, 2014, 07:52:59 pm
What's N- com?
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 20, 2014, 07:53:56 pm
Nolan's extortionately priced Bluetooth kit for their helmets. Luckily I got one used off the DV forum.
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Post by: lurch1000 on May 20, 2014, 08:03:30 pm
Cheaper than Schuberth's though, just over £400... Ncom list is €260
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Post by: lurch1000 on June 02, 2014, 10:25:37 pm
I had a go at talking to the camera this time, so not convinced, it was all a bit random, might work better if I'm just not spouting drivel... :)
[size=78%]Oh, and me managing to killswitch myself....: [/size][size=78%]http://youtu.be/oZ_zpJ8VFJQ (http://youtu.be/oZ_zpJ8VFJQ)[/size]
LOL, reminds me of the last time I did this. Pitch black country road, just after a bit of fettling on the bike. Discovered at 60mph that I hadn't secured the left side panel which was pushing against my leg. I put my hand down to try and secure it and it came off in my hand. Attempting to hold the panel across my chest and slowing down I whacked the kill switch with the end of the panel, although I had no idea that is what I'd done. Ground to a halt with no hand to pull the clutch at the side of the road with everything going dark bar the taillight and side light. Took me a while to figure it out.
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Post by: SpikeK6 on June 10, 2014, 05:06:58 pm
Hope this works
Well wating on 21st June now, itching to get away, 6 countries in 7 days just me and a mate 2 bikes and the open road. You will have to zoom in to the road in Switzerland, its excelent
Will let you all know what it was like when I get back
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on June 10, 2014, 07:39:38 pm
The bit through Larice? Looks superb!!! You got a helmet camera? Might be worth getting one and a couple of spare batteries! 720p video will record for about 12h on a 32GB class10, you will need either a few cards or a netbook to copy clips off to. Just a note if you do, copy the clips off in to their own folder, some cameras reset the video clip filename after being cleared out or formatted.
Reminds me, YouTube.com/lurchonabike - the latest uploaded video is a video of my RoSPA twistie training on a very wet day!
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Post by: SpikeK6 on June 11, 2014, 07:27:34 am
Got a go pro. 5 Batteries and a lovely big memory card, a net book to take with me for storage so yes just need to practice my editing skills when i get back.
Will take a look at you tube
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Post by: lurch1000 on June 11, 2014, 07:44:21 am
Excellent, looking forward to vids/photos!
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Post by: lurch1000 on June 28, 2014, 05:38:27 pm
Bit quiet in here considering it's summer!
Went on a ride out today, 35 bikes turned up, and guess who was asked to lead... Yup! Me! I've never even seen that many bikes in one place before bar a bike shop!! Still, good fun :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on June 28, 2014, 08:28:02 pm
I've been uploading more crap to t'interwebs! If anyone is interested, http://www.youtube.com/user/lurchonabike
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Post by: Sacha on June 28, 2014, 08:57:23 pm
Will check these out tonight
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Post by: lurch1000 on June 28, 2014, 09:29:35 pm
Just had an update on the ride out today. 40 for the ride and one extra met us at Squires! Not a bad show for a wet day!
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Post by: SpikeK6 on July 02, 2014, 09:46:11 pm
Ok as promised some footage from the go pro on the front of the bike through the alps.
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Post by: DoubleDutch on August 24, 2014, 05:49:13 pm
Great trip!! Good weather ?
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 24, 2014, 05:50:14 pm
Beautiful day! Had the sunvisor deployed for a good chunk of it!
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Post by: DoubleDutch on August 24, 2014, 05:54:35 pm
Ahhh great !!! Sunvisor ????? In the UK. Here it's called "buienradar" = "showerradar" hahaha. Went for a bike(pedal)-tour this afternoon. Dry with sunny spells it is called by Carol Kirkwood to my believe hahaha.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 24, 2014, 05:55:31 pm
We have sun today. Monsoon tomorrow...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: DoubleDutch on August 24, 2014, 05:57:30 pm
Ahhh the infamous UK Monsoon-season hahaha.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on August 24, 2014, 05:59:18 pm
Yup! Clocked up some miles... 150 miles last weekend, 74 then 176 this weekend :) that's like over 609 of your funny short miles :)
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Post by: dropscale on August 25, 2014, 07:17:54 pm
Took this out for the day on saturday.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 25, 2014, 07:19:46 pm
Very nice! Did you keep your right leg warm?! :)
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Post by: dropscale on August 25, 2014, 07:27:08 pm
Toast like thumbsup
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Post by: DoubleDutch on August 25, 2014, 07:38:58 pm
Yup! Clocked up some miles... 150 miles last weekend, 74 then 176 this weekend :) that's like over 609 of your funny short miles :)
hahaha half way France !!! Even with your funny long kilometres hahaha.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 25, 2014, 07:42:39 pm
That distance is from Leeds to the M25 going down the M1!
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Post by: DoubleDutch on August 25, 2014, 08:11:59 pm
You woukd have crossed our country three times hahaha.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on August 25, 2014, 08:12:44 pm
I need to get to Utrecht at some point. Got someone I'd like to see.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 25, 2014, 08:13:19 pm
Then I can ride around and see if I can do 175m and stay within the country :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on August 25, 2014, 08:15:31 pm
Just looking at some old photos....that's not you in the background is it...lurch?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on August 25, 2014, 08:17:58 pm
I had to look close!!! No, same colour exactly. My tax is February, and I didn't take the bike out until March 2013, plus it doesn't have hand deflectors on it, nor did it have a top box until summer 2013 :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on August 25, 2014, 09:04:56 pm
I'll just leave you with the bike that(in the hands of colin edwards)broke ducatis'dominance of the world production class series.
I give you the honda sp2.....aka rc51
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on August 25, 2014, 09:11:43 pm
I'm guessing that's a bonkers loose your licence bike?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on August 25, 2014, 09:25:12 pm
Well yes...I suppose so.but it's pretty easy to lose your license on any motorcycle these days. yes,the rc51 was fast, but it was more than that. it's pure quality..designed to win races..and heavily breathed on by hondas racing corporation(hrc). Totally over the top for road riding...but I bet any of the present day super bikes would smoke it.....so what does that make them?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on August 25, 2014, 09:29:42 pm
I mean....look at that swingarm
pure porn roflmao
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on August 26, 2014, 10:55:43 am
Did i ever mention the new toy i bought a while back? Fun, Noisy, Poppy-bangy, Mad machine! Still changing some bits on it. That's the third set of exhausts and still not happy ( only because there's a dead spot at 4k revs that even a ex racer can't seem to get rid of! ) I think the hand guards were the best buy so far though. A godsend in this horrible weather
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on August 26, 2014, 10:57:02 am
Nice!! Is the the MT09? I'm crap at IDing bikes....
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Post by: fr499y on August 26, 2014, 11:08:36 am
Nah, tried a 09 and hated it ( must be a triple thing! Didn't get on with my speed triple either! )
Its the 03, they stopped making them in 2010 but this is on a 12 plate. Cracking little bikes, 660CC Single cylinder thats got enough poke to beat most things off the lights! Proper character bike though. They pop, they bang, they are noisy as you like ( even standard ) and this ones packing 45BHP at the rear wheel with just a pair of cans.
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Post by: lurch1000 on August 26, 2014, 11:09:46 am
Hoon time!
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Post by: fr499y on August 26, 2014, 03:13:01 pm
Oh yes! Only when dry, the front gets a bit lively in the wet ( pirelli scorpion = terrible tyres )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on August 26, 2014, 03:17:34 pm
Pr2 all the way for me. Sticks like glue in the wet :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on September 02, 2014, 10:58:14 pm
Just thought I'd pop in on this thread to say that I completed my CBT today :-)
I am currently debating whether to get a 125 scooter, most likely the Honda PCX, or a manual bike, most likely Honda CBF or Yamaha YBR.
This bike will be used 99% for getting around London, mostly commuting. That's what makes me lean more towards the scooter. I just don't see why I would need gears if I'm riding in the city.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 02, 2014, 10:59:10 pm
Bike! But you already knew that :)
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Post by: Sacha on September 02, 2014, 11:00:12 pm
I knew you'd be the first to reply but I wasn't expecting it to take you a whole 25 seconds.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 02, 2014, 11:01:19 pm
Ha! This thread dings on my phone :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Mol_PMB on September 02, 2014, 11:15:48 pm
Hey Lurch - you still waiting for the 40L cube for your (daughter's) Betta?
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 02, 2014, 11:18:28 pm
Mrs lurch might have had a change of heart of that... I'll give you a shout in the next couple of days...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Mol_PMB on September 02, 2014, 11:20:32 pm
Ask Miss Lurch :)
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 02, 2014, 11:27:24 pm
Miss Lurch is clearly related to the man from Del Monte. Mrs Lurch is bigger than Miss Lurch, I'm not getting involved other than ensuring there is adequate welfare for this fish should it happen. :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Mol_PMB on September 02, 2014, 11:29:41 pm
Miss Lurch, She say 'Yes' :)
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on September 03, 2014, 02:59:32 pm
i'd say scoot for London. Most people in London have a scoot as they are cheap to run!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on September 03, 2014, 03:34:41 pm
Not much in it between 125 bikes and scoots. All allege 150mpg. Down to how it suits your luggage needs. I'll wait for Sacha to come and update you.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Sacha on September 03, 2014, 07:24:10 pm
Here's my update.
I am test riding a Honda PCX 125 tomorrow (scooter). I took a look at it today, and I like it. The deal breaker for me is that I can fit my bag inside the seat. That's with several large books, and a 13 inch laptop.
If I like the ride tomorrow, I'll be buying one.
Any experience here of the PCX?
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 03, 2014, 07:24:47 pm
Deal maker I presume you mean!
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 03, 2014, 07:25:13 pm
You gonna tell them about that pink Frank Thomas helmet?
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Post by: Sacha on September 03, 2014, 07:35:46 pm
Oh yeah.
Damian asked me to pick up a hot pink helmet for him while I'm there.
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 03, 2014, 07:41:42 pm
Glad to be your cover story mate :)
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Post by: johnbow on September 03, 2014, 08:18:03 pm
Visibility's important! (But not that important. roflmao )
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 03, 2014, 08:19:11 pm
He's gonna die on his first day yknow.
Post up that target, er I mean hiviz ;)
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Post by: johnbow on September 03, 2014, 08:20:54 pm
Just don't get hit wearing a bright pink helmet. *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 03, 2014, 08:24:59 pm
While we wait for Sasha to come and kill me, still been on with my RoSPA when I've not been away, last weekend we did suburban work - lots of speed changes, industrial areas etc, some motorway and through a small town. Never done that with my tutor in two before. End of the session he wrote up my notes. Started with what we did and the positives. Got to the section for things to improve on and said that he had nothing to write in it. Chuffed? Not half!!!!
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Post by: Sacha on September 03, 2014, 08:26:06 pm
While we wait for Sasha to come and kill me, still been on with my RoSPA when I've not been away, last weekend we did suburban work - lots of speed changes, industrial areas etc, some motorway and through a small town. Never done that with my tutor in two before. End of the session he wrote up my notes. Started with what we did and the positives. Got to the section for things to improve on and said that he had nothing to write in it. Chuffed? Not half!!!!
Well done mate! I recon the final test should be to survive riding around tesco car park for 10 minutes without some dozy t@@t knocking you off! Loving the hi viz Sacha! Where did you get that? Almost worth buying one to see how differently your treated on the road.
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Post by: Sacha on September 03, 2014, 08:58:47 pm
Since I've been wearing it (on my bicycle), people have seriously kept their distance.
I got it from eBay seller Motocycles. Was a bit expensive, maybe £25- £30. It's a waistcoat, not a jacket. So can go over any other jacket.
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Post by: Sacha on September 04, 2014, 08:17:13 pm
The PCX is great, I really enjoyed the ride. Pretty much made up my mind that I'm buying one.
New list price is £2699 for the 2015 model (come in early). But I'm waiting for the guy to call me back tomorrow morning to see if he can get that down to £2300. If he can, I'll be picking it up on Saturday. If not, I might get a pre- reg 2014 model for £2250. Obviously I'd prefer the 2015 model. THe tank is nearly 1/3 larger, the battery is bigger, the seat is more comfortable, and it has a clock.
Will update tomorrow.
Anyway, was a very nice ride indeed!
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Post by: johnbow on September 05, 2014, 08:54:09 pm
If your buying new they should be able to give you something off. When I bought my bike I found the cheapest One I could find on the net and asked my dealer to price match it. They weren't keen but they did it,it's a buyers market and a bit of cheek goes a long way. You can also try getting extras thrown in,a pair of gloves,anything. They're generally happy to do that as it's stuff they have in stock.
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 05, 2014, 09:18:17 pm
No idea what margin is in a bike, but we pay way more than most of Europe! Must be a pound or two in it for the stealers.
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Post by: Sacha on September 06, 2014, 08:42:01 am
The best they can do me is £2499 for a brand new 2015 model.
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Post by: johnbow on September 06, 2014, 08:50:22 pm
What's that about 7 percent discount? I don't know what margins they've got on scooters but I'd go for the 2015 one,worth more when you come to sell. I'd play the I was expecting more off card and then ask him to throw in some free goodies,see what they say.
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Post by: Sacha on September 06, 2014, 08:56:11 pm
Ohhhh I forgot to update this thread. Things have progressed...
£2499 for the 2015 white PCX (zero miles). They are throwing in free gloves too (around £50).
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 06, 2014, 08:57:22 pm
You need a black and white jacket now :)
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Post by: Sacha on September 06, 2014, 09:05:57 pm
Indeed I do. Will go shopping for one on Monday.
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Post by: Sacha on September 07, 2014, 07:20:26 pm
Spent the day tidying up the garage and emptying it of loads of old crap, to make a nice space for my bike.
Now there's just a big empty space in the garage staring at me mockingly.
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Post by: johnbow on September 07, 2014, 07:58:38 pm
New toys! *grin*
Do you have to run it in or are they ready to go?
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Post by: Sacha on September 07, 2014, 08:22:23 pm
It's ready to go, what do you mean by run it in?
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 08, 2014, 12:22:08 am
Don't go crazy and use the higher end of the rev range really. Not until you've had the 500 mile service. It'll all be in the handbook.
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Post by: Sacha on September 08, 2014, 08:05:55 am
Hmm. So I guess it isn't ideal that its first journey will be 25 miles along the A3 (average speed around 60 mph on that road).
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 08, 2014, 08:30:51 am
It'll be fine at that, don't pop a wheelie while accelerating harshly to 60 though ;)
If there's a sensible alternative then maybe take that but I'd not worry about it too much.
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Post by: johnbow on September 08, 2014, 10:33:15 pm
Speed shouldn't be too much of an issue,just don't accelerate flat out in the beginning. Wasn't sure about scooters but when I bought my bike the advice was don't rev the living day lights out of it or brake sharply for 200 miles then your good to go. In the olden days you had to nurse an engine for a while but I think most of them are bench run in the factory now.
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Post by: fishfandan on September 08, 2014, 10:43:54 pm
Good luck, have fun, drive safe ;-)
Do I rejoin the bikers club???? Hmmm
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 08, 2014, 10:46:30 pm
Stupid question :)
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Post by: fishfandan on September 08, 2014, 10:50:39 pm
Bandit 600 in the watch list... will be having a proper look tomorrow!
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 08, 2014, 10:54:18 pm
I'm dilemma-ing. All in on a Pan, or tart up the Deauville and get a VFR or striple as a weekend bike.
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Post by: johnbow on September 09, 2014, 11:14:17 pm
Can't we get both? thumbsup
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 09, 2014, 11:24:45 pm
Well a Pan is quite a lot of money, an older VFR or striple less so.
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Post by: johnbow on September 10, 2014, 12:15:15 pm
Always good to have more than 1 bike if you can. Have you ridden both? I do like a vfr but haven't tried a striple.
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Post by: fr499y on September 10, 2014, 01:36:10 pm
had a speed triple, hated it, had a VFR, V-tec kicks in at a stupid rev range making it a interesting ride. The pan is a big bike for a every day bike. If you want a good alrounder, why not go with a FJR or a R1200RT?
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 10, 2014, 02:54:34 pm
I think if I got a VFR it'd be the Fi. FJR isn't small and the BMWs concern me with the clutch at £1000 a go for an RT.
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Post by: fr499y on September 10, 2014, 04:18:45 pm
clutches are fine, they are like a car clutch so will last a fair while! we have two R1200's. One is the R and the other is the RT. the FJR are smaller than you would think ( and are more usable as a every day tourer! ) again we had two of these before *grin*
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 10, 2014, 05:36:53 pm
Not buying an early 2014 RT though ;)
Need to see what the RT looks like without panniers! I think if I'm getting a "big" bike, it'll be a Pan, definitely a shaft drive. Plan B then will be a nifty mid size naked/street/sportish bike with the DV. VFR can also take luggage if needed so a backup to the DV if it's off the road.
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Post by: fr499y on September 11, 2014, 10:09:26 am
I'll grab a pic tonight for ya :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 11, 2014, 10:46:03 am
Cheers!!
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Post by: oxo77 on September 11, 2014, 10:27:37 pm
Think all the RT's at work have paniers TBH but will have a look and post a pic if I can find one without Lurch
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 11, 2014, 11:55:24 pm
I saw an ST13 without them... Weird!!!
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Post by: fr499y on September 12, 2014, 09:57:26 am
pans look stupid without them, the fjr look normal without them and i ride my 1200R without them. Again, this is the R version not the RT but you will get a idea :) forgot to get a pic of the RT, but if i remember i will when i get in tonight lol.
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 12, 2014, 10:31:56 am
Smart!!! Cheers!
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Post by: fr499y on September 12, 2014, 10:46:25 am
The back light is different on the R to the RT, but the way the panniers mount are the same!
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 12, 2014, 11:06:33 am
And the exhaust position is the same so is close enough to what I'm looking at there?
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Post by: fr499y on September 12, 2014, 11:39:58 am
yeah, what i'll do is get a side by side of the two bikes later.
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Post by: fr499y on September 12, 2014, 05:36:53 pm
side of each R And RT :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 12, 2014, 06:00:12 pm
So the R is better looking but has no fairings! I'll have a look at RTs and see what gives. Cheers!
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Post by: Sacha on September 16, 2014, 06:45:03 pm
Just a little update from me...
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2r7ap75.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/t5hw7n.jpg)
This is truly a joy to ride...
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Post by: redmonkey on September 16, 2014, 07:10:33 pm
Sold my GSA Triple Black on saturday, to say im gutted is an understatement.
Saving for a house now so new priorities
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Post by: johnbow on September 16, 2014, 08:02:02 pm
How is the new bike going then Sacha? Are you pleased with it?
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Post by: Sacha on September 16, 2014, 08:56:50 pm
I'm delighted, made the right choice 100%. I went for a new one in the end. Brand new PCX 125, 2015 model (came in early). It's lovely to ride, great underseat storage, large tank, 124 mpg so far... And it's so easy to ride and manoeuvre. Also it has stop/ start technology, meaning the engine cuts off if you are idle for 3 seconds. The second you touch the throttle the engine fires back up. It's a very seamless transition.
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 16, 2014, 09:48:45 pm
Sweet! Nice to see you have the appropriate footwear :)
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Post by: Sacha on September 16, 2014, 10:20:44 pm
Wasn't wearing my boots or gloves in that photo. But I do wear them when I'm out on the road.
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 16, 2014, 10:47:05 pm
Good man :)
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Post by: Sacha on September 16, 2014, 10:49:19 pm
Oh that reminds me. I want to cover it in the rain so the seat doesn't get soaked. Can anyone recommend a good cover, that will fold up small?
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 16, 2014, 11:13:55 pm
Oxford covers, pricey but last.
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Post by: paulca on September 26, 2014, 07:37:23 pm
I got a new toy! (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Llh_Izk7lWc/VCV9oSKfXwI/AAAAAAAAAQA/fRrOOhgbpM0/s1152/IMAG0681.jpg)
It looks well in the family photo: (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6b8pJIzEuUU/VCWK_30JTwI/AAAAAAAAAQo/xKXyPsgRVrg/s1152/IMAG0686.jpg)
As to how it is to ride? I was terrified of it before I bought it. Was hoping to go for the CBF600, but the 1000 was tempting. The price was right, I got a reasonable PE for my KLE500, even though it needs restoring, CBF was the perfect spec and in mint condition for 25K miles.
The step up to the litre bike worried me, but the first few hundred yards and I knew there was nothing to worry about; it's a big cuddly arm chair below 3k rpm and SO easy to ride. Then I opened it up in 3rd to the red line and OMFG! Wow! NOW I understand why people want to put 100bhp on a bike.
The CBF has perfect balance for different moods. It wafts around like a tourer most of the time, but if you pin it above 4k rpm it becomes an animal.
Really enjoying my introduction to big bikes :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on September 26, 2014, 08:00:49 pm
I'm looking g for a cheap second bike for around a grand. Something a little sporty. Need to really up it to £1500 for an ok CBR 600
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Post by: fr499y on October 01, 2014, 11:53:49 am
hehe. Them CBF1000's are nice bikes, sound good with a a nice set of cans ;)
I loved my z1000 for the same reason, i bought it less than a year after passing my test, i wanted the 750 but the 1000 was my dream bike from day one. 135BHP at the rear wheel with a few mods ( i meen.. 33BHP honest! ) and my god did that shift when you booted it. I've always been one for big bikes that youngsters don't get and ride them like sports bikes lol.
Oh yeah, got some bits swapped out on the MT-03. Almost seems a shame that its my winter bike. Carbon arrow cans, had to order them from Italy with a 3 week waiting time, look awesome and sound even better! Ordered a new air filter as mine is buggered and plastered in oil ( another thing i need to look at, why so much oil is getting in there! )
Lurch, ya looking at the CBR600F? a good run around bike like the TDM850/900 could be worth a punt, cracking bikes and best of all, there a nice height for anyone over 5'8 :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 01, 2014, 12:16:35 pm
I wanted something sporty just to say I'd done it really :)
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Post by: fr499y on October 01, 2014, 12:22:19 pm
mk2 SV650 :D Thats sporty and a less *Thrash the nuts off* type of ride! :)
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Post by: johnbow on October 01, 2014, 03:44:47 pm
I had a cbr 600f. Fantastic bike to ride and bomb proof. You could actually grab a handfull of front brake mid corner and it wouldn't get too upset. Great to ride over pot hole road Britain!
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 01, 2014, 03:54:01 pm
One I went to see was a 1995 bike, £800 but the front tyre pressures were low and he was quite keen to point out that water normally drops from the exhaust drain when choked and cold. Too many niggles to go for it, so I walked away. Shame it was tidy for the age.
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Post by: paulca on October 01, 2014, 07:41:45 pm
Speaking of drips I found to my dismay that the CBF when washed and returned to the centre stand drips from the corner of the radiator! I thankfully confirmed it was just water dripping out of the bike and not the radiator. Phew. Still scary to come back after 5 minutes to find a puddle and a drip that looks for all intents like it IS coming out of the radiator.
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Post by: fr499y on October 02, 2014, 01:51:58 pm
did i ever mention the speed triple i had? radiator was split and it took a couple of spirited rides before green fluid made a puddle on the floor!, noticed a few other marks on it on the same side so took bike back and found out they sold it knowing it was dropped by didn't tell me.. i ended up throwing the bike back at them!
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 07, 2014, 03:13:28 pm
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Post by: Sacha on October 11, 2014, 04:27:22 pm
Idiot.
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 11, 2014, 04:39:28 pm
Hehe!
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Post by: johnbow on October 12, 2014, 10:43:01 pm
Took 4 days to bite but you got there! roflmao
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 12, 2014, 11:03:58 pm
It made it to Facebook as well. Just wait til I publish the video of his ride through London ;)
I wouldn't do that... Although the hump it van by acton fire station is going in a compilation! A good steady ride - just few pointers and a bit of polishing required.
I'm off out for a ride with a class 1 police examiner in tow, not my RoSPA test, just some extra advanced training for me :)
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Post by: marty.h on October 12, 2014, 11:21:25 pm
I often see signs saying think bike ect. But some should read think car and van.
Last Friday a bike decided not to stop at a cross road and resulted in my van being written of as he T boned me.
How the boy survived I don't know he hit my van that fast and hard it pushed it round. His leg was a mess but luckily he still here. There are some very good riders out there and some that has total disregard for any other road uses. The same also goes for cars some good and bad we all have to use the roads so we should all play safe all the best on your bikes and please stay safe.
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Post by: lurch1000 on October 12, 2014, 11:23:04 pm
Never a truer word spoken. Sadly the ones that need removing from the gene pool are allowed to breed before shuffling on...
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Post by: dropscale on November 02, 2014, 10:27:03 pm
Tigger looks well
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Post by: Sacha on November 02, 2014, 11:14:21 pm
My god. Nice bike. How do you get it looking so good? Looks like new.
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 03, 2014, 12:15:32 am
Awesome bikes. Was out with a Street and s Speed yesterday. Sound amazing.
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Post by: dropscale on November 03, 2014, 08:12:24 am
My god. Nice bike. How do you get it looking so good? Looks like new.
I put my bike away,once the road salt goes down.Build qaulity is very good aswell....certainly"up there"with honda and bmw. As for cleaning..i use pledge for the bodywork and wd40 for everything else.
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 03, 2014, 08:28:52 am
I want to strip down my Deauville and repaint the front of the engine and clean it up in general then douse it in ACF50, but it's probably a job over a few weeks, so ideally id get a second bike to run while it was in bits.
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Post by: fr499y on November 03, 2014, 11:32:04 am
I'm getting rid of the BMW next year, just can't seem to get on with it as much as i would like. The front is light as hell with my gf on the back ( no shes not heavy! ) the gear changes are not smooth around town which is a real shame. Think i will move away from BMW and go back to Honda or Yamaha.
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 03, 2014, 11:46:40 am
I thought the F800 would be quite sorted for all of that. You twiddled with the rear suspension im guessing?
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Post by: fr499y on November 03, 2014, 01:48:01 pm
I don't have the f800 anymore, have a R1200R but its just not smooth by any means. In all honesty, I've had nothing but problems with the last 4 bikes I've owned. Wish my dad never sold his VFR 800 as i loved riding that bike, might even trade the BMW in for the last of the older V-tec models
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Post by: Jamesrb90 on November 06, 2014, 08:45:22 pm
I recently got my licence and got myself this bad boy last week Started big so I don't get bored to quick
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 06, 2014, 09:06:16 pm
Looks tidy! Just watch you don't loose that new licence on it :)
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Post by: Jamesrb90 on November 06, 2014, 09:17:11 pm
Looks tidy! Just watch you don't loose that new licence on it :)
I'm sure the whole get 6 points in the first year or two don't count for me as iv held a car drivers licence for 6 years and would of counted on that. >:D>:D
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Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 11:55:17 am
nope it would still count.. its a new license in theory. I'm thinking more on the lines of, first big bike, a r6.. this is gunna hurt! Treat it with respect else it WILL have you off.
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 12:10:01 pm
No, it only applies to people who have not held a full licence before. It was only adding a category, thus you can rack up your full compliment of points should you wish yo
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Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 12:14:05 pm
No, it only applies to people who have not held a full licence before. It was only adding a category, thus you can rack up your full compliment of points should you wish yo
Does it not still apply though, if you get so many point on a new bike license you can still loose the entitlement?
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Post by: Jamesrb90 on November 07, 2014, 12:14:48 pm
nope it would still count.. its a new license in theory. I'm thinking more on the lines of, first big bike, a r6.. this is gunna hurt! Treat it with respect else it WILL have you off.
But it aint a new licence it's only adding the A category to my existing licence. But yeah anyway I wont be losing my licence
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 12:14:54 pm
Nope. You've got a nee category, not a licence, the rules are only for new licence holders.
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 12:15:21 pm
Ooh! Simultaneous posting!
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Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 12:16:19 pm
you have BUT, i'm sure you still have the 2 year probation on the category.. So 6 points tops on bike, yet 12 still on the car.
Anyway, be careful on it and don't be tempted to give it the beans!!
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 12:16:28 pm
I've been getting creative with editing if anyone wants to have a look. Youtube.com/lurchonabike and look at the sticker video :)
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 12:17:28 pm
I assure you fr499y, it only applies to the licence not the category. They may even give you the info when you get your licence back.
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Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 12:19:36 pm
nope it would still count.. its a new license in theory. I'm thinking more on the lines of, first big bike, a r6.. this is gunna hurt! Treat it with respect else it WILL have you off.
He'll be fine...my first "big" bike was a gsxr600...and i'm still here
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Post by: Jamesrb90 on November 07, 2014, 12:39:54 pm
nope it would still count.. its a new license in theory. I'm thinking more on the lines of, first big bike, a r6.. this is gunna hurt! Treat it with respect else it WILL have you off.
He'll be fine...my first "big" bike was a gsxr600...and i'm still here
That was my second choice lol
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Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 12:46:00 pm
Nice bike btw....enjoy
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Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 12:49:18 pm
hehe comes down to experience tbf. in all honesty though, i started on a bandit and within a year i was riding a Z1000 with 130+BHP at the rear. That thing was more fun than any sports bike could be.
Oh yeah, might be picking another one up at the weekend. Or a tuono! *grin* Something about riding a big powerful naked bike that tries to rip your arms off is just more fun than being behind a screen not knowing what speed you're really doing. Maybe thats why more people seem to crash sports bikes? Thinking they are going slower than they actually are and being caught out?
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Post by: Jamesrb90 on November 07, 2014, 01:09:26 pm
hehe comes down to experience tbf. in all honesty though, i started on a bandit and within a year i was riding a Z1000 with 130+BHP at the rear. That thing was more fun than any sports bike could be.
Oh yeah, might be picking another one up at the weekend. Or a tuono! *grin* Something about riding a big powerful naked bike that tries to rip your arms off is just more fun than being behind a screen not knowing what speed you're really doing. Maybe thats why more people seem to crash sports bikes? Thinking they are going slower than they actually are and being caught out?
Sounds good mate. Yeah I looked at bandits but didn't fancy the look of them. And your right lol
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Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 01:35:56 pm
hehe comes down to experience tbf. in all honesty though, i started on a bandit and within a year i was riding a Z1000 with 130+BHP at the rear. That thing was more fun than any sports bike could be.
Oh yeah, might be picking another one up at the weekend. Or a tuono! *grin* Something about riding a big powerful naked bike that tries to rip your arms off is just more fun than being behind a screen not knowing what speed you're really doing. Maybe thats why more people seem to crash sports bikes? Thinking they are going slower than they actually are and being caught out?
What sports bikes have you owned?
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Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 02:27:16 pm
CBR600, gsxr600, vfr800, yzf600, yzf1000, sv650 umm few others
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Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 02:28:45 pm
Just the gsxr then. ;)
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Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 02:33:21 pm
pretty sure a CBR, a R6 and a R1 are classed as sports bikes ;)
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Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 02:37:02 pm
Are you sure they were r6 and r1?and not thundercat and thunderace.
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Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 02:38:20 pm
had both of them as well. Yes i'm sure. Could always throw the triumph TT 600 in the mix as well, or is that not a sports bike in your book?
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Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 02:43:52 pm
So what is a sports bike then?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 02:45:53 pm
wrist bending bars that require you to lay on the tank, ass in the air and hide behind a big old lump of plastic *grin* Anyway, if it wasn't for the thundercat and the thunderace there wouldn't be an R6 or an R1
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 02:56:03 pm
So you started on a bandit,then within a year were riding the"zed"...which you swapped for a duke in 2012....and have owned all those other bikes since?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 03:28:26 pm
um.. yeah... why? bit hard to believe? :rock: If you really want the inns and outs of the bikes I've owned then i can easily write them here... Got pictures of most of them
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 03:34:10 pm
Chronological bike history? I'm liking the sound of that!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Jamesrb90 on November 07, 2014, 03:45:20 pm
Lool harassment
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 04:06:53 pm
Troll! Haha!!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 04:07:16 pm
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 04:49:39 pm
haha love it! Just got in from work so going to resize a few pics then do the noting of the bikes...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 05:26:27 pm
Those are actual real stickers :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 05:52:03 pm
So... first up we got what started me on bikes.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/mini.JPG) Mini moto. This one was tuned up, cooling sorted out then thrashed to death on a local go kart track. At this point in life i was having a few issues to deal with, so i decided to build myself a pitbike from scratch. SDG Frame/wheels, SDG forks, engine was imported from germany, many OORacing parts slapped in it ( engine internals etc ) and one of the first to have a hydraulic clutch! ( Pain in the ass to bleed! ) Then it was time for real bikes.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/gt125.JPG) Hyosung GT125 Comet, Size of a fazer ( had one but not got pic ) V-twin 125, lovely bike but heavy for a learner. Oh and god knows what problems.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/skyjet.jpg) Skyjet SJ125, the less i say the better ( Chinese bag of shit )
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/cougar.JPG) Next up, Gilera[size=78%] coguar 125. Cracking little cruiser, had this for a year to get me back and forth to work before upgrading to the Sinnis.[/size]
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/stealth125.JPG) Sinnis Stealth 125. Passed my test on this little beauty! Big wide tyres, USD forks, cracking twin brakes, probs the best 125 for under £2,000 otr!
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/gsf600s-1.JPG)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/gsf600s-2.JPG)
Suzuki GSF 600 S. Bought this before passing my test as a way to kick me up the ass to get it done. Was a Cat C burnt write off, complete mess. Slowly done it up over 4 months, first big bike and a good one at that.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/sv650s.JPG) Suzuki SV650 Sport. My first brand new bike, testing out the sports scene with this one, Lovely V-twin which i fitted a full Mivv GP Exhaust! LOUD.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/gsf600n.JPG) Suzuki GSF 600 N. Winter bike, bought it dirt cheap from a dealer going bust. In m usual fassion, stubby GP titanium can ( The pre-Austin racing big bore cans! ) which was a WIP model by a company i deal with.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/ace.jpg)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/cat.JPG) Then it was the Thundercat, R6 and R1 which i only have a picture of the thundercat. Cracking bike, more comfy than the R6, not quiet as much power but still shifted pretty damn well once you wound it up.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/z1000.JPG) Kawasaki Z1000. My god what a bike, loads done to this inc PCIII, Mivv X-cones which later got replaced with some custom made cans by the same guy as the bandit can. Custom made link pipes that pointed them out at a nice angle, K&N Filter, Chrome crashbungs etc etc. Mad MAD Bike. Regret selling this one i really do. 130BHP at the rear wheel with new tyres that kept slipping on the dyno. Only bike i've accidently done a wheely on! [size=78%].[/size]
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/kle500.JPG) KLE 500. Winter bike, good fun, reliable bullet proof engine. Full stainless exhaust on this one. Road it through a winter and did a few miles two up. Very underated bike.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/950sm.JPG) KTM 950 SM. Bought as a dropped bike to repair for winter. Nothing but problems with running, kept cutting out which was down to the clutch. FMF Factory 4.1 cans with no baffles, sort of sound that would wake the devil! ( Specially when there was a fueling issue causing it to backfire!!!!! and not start )
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/s2r1000.JPG) This and the Zed were sold for the Ducati S2R 1000 Capirossi rep. Full termi exhaust, more carbon than burnt toast ( So my cousin says! ) Cracking bike, but bit too lively for a every day bike. Loads more mods on that like open airbox, CDI etc etc. Also sounded lovely.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/cbr600.JPG) This then went for the CBR 600. Nothing really to say about this, Mivv Double guns fitted, smooth combined brakes were a pleasure with a pillion but just wasn't my kind of bike. IIRC this was over the 130BHP mark? ( 136/138bhp? ) which correct me if im wrong, was the same if not more than the 2006+ RR?
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/thruxton.JPG) CBR Traded in for a thruxton. Best bit of fun i've had on a small bike. Handled like it was on rails and sounded amazing with the 2-1 Arrow full system :D Oh and can't forget the flames!!!
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/striple.jpg) Traded this in for a Speed Triple 1050. Mental bike, put some cans on it and um.. found out the previous owner dropped it, nakered up the radiator so that leaked so.. traded it back in!
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/xjr1300.jpg) This went and then came the XJR1300. Owned this for just over a year, done some traveling on it and finally sold it with 15k on the clock ( bought with 5k on ) lovely bike, but my neck kept going when riding it.
XJR was traded in for a BMW F800GT which was a big mistake, full arrow exhaust was put on it along with a booster plug, filter etc etc.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/drz400sm.JPG) DRZ 400 SM. Bought for winter, had it for 3 weeks and some scum of the earth decided to steal it along with two bicycles of ours. £7,000 down the drain in total.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/R1200r.jpg) F800GT went for the R1200R Which im now planning on trading in for a smaller sports tourer. Its too juddery, not smooth at all but does handle VERY well for a big boxer.
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/mt03.jpg) MT-03 - Current winter bike. Love it! Just bonkers to ride, a proper hoon tool! Arrow cans fitted, K&N filter, PC V, Handguards. Loud, Banging, great handling bike. Few more bikes but don't have all the pics so heres a few of them :) Enjoy!
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/cb500.JPG)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/fjr.JPG)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/gladius.JPG)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/tdm900.jpg)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/TT600.JPG)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/vfr800.jpg)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/xjr400.JPG)
(http://sgnetwork.co.uk/bikes/fzs.JPG)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 06:16:17 pm
You day the triumph went,and then came the xjr...but they can both be seen in the same picture. And.....as if by chance,you don't have a picture of the r6 or r1. Come on be honest...how many of those bikes are yours?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 06:31:36 pm
all of them are mine... the xjr was delivered before the triumph went back.... a lot of the time i own 2-3 bikes. Like i said, i don't have pics of all the bikes, you dont see a pic of the F800GT do you? or the other 2 XJR's
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 06:35:17 pm
ad pic of the NTV but forgot that one as well ( Joint bike for winter ), 150k miles were on the clock. OH and the only pic of the R1 i have is the engine in bits.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 06:47:15 pm
ahh believe what you want, couldn't give a shit.
*Back to topic* Enjoy your new bike, keep safe and stay rubber side down!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 06:49:09 pm
Ok,i believe you *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 06:50:37 pm
Ive got a helmet issue... When i pop my Nolan open in rain i usually get a dribble of water down the inside, today i got a deluge. Id ride with it chinked open but that allows drizzly bits to spray round on to the inside. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 06:50:52 pm
Nice load of bikes there mate. as if he can't tell most of them are taken in the same garden. Wish I could do a rebuild Awsome bikes
Well tbf, i thought that would give it away that they were all mine lol. Might of got a few in the wrong order as like i said, owned a couple at the same time. Getting to that age where i got to stop buying bikes and settle with two ( or three )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Jamesrb90 on November 07, 2014, 07:37:59 pm
Haha yes save yourself alot of money
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 07:48:28 pm
My dear thing....banter Bloke next door has a goldwing, which i call the gold thing...he calls my bike the(60s)throwback.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 08:17:12 pm
Indeed! Hence the smiley!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 08:18:01 pm
Ill invoke my rude lurch troll soon. Sacha's seen it, he's not polite!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 08:21:39 pm
Go on then,lets see it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 08:23:03 pm
Not sure if this embeds or you'll need to click the link.
http://youtu.be/g4qdHOQWJEk
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 08:35:17 pm
You're barmy
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 08:38:31 pm
Took bloody ages to do that too! :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 07, 2014, 09:30:31 pm
goldwing ent a bike, its a damn car on two wheels! lol
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 07, 2014, 09:33:23 pm
It's a bike with all the disadvantages of a car...
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: dropscale on November 07, 2014, 10:48:23 pm
A lad i know used to do a bit of testing for a south african bike mag...needless to say he is a very"talented"rider. Anyway...back in england one day,he's on this goldthing...trundling up the a17 near sleaford(dual carriageway)with the radio on full blast and the cruise control set at a steady 65ish. He notices a car in lane one...so moves out to overtake...and then jumps on the back seat as he goes past,giving a cheery wave as he does so. He reckons the look on the families faces as he went past was priceless
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 21, 2014, 01:18:22 pm
Was going to pick up a CB1000R but changed my mind, keeping the BMW but changing a few more things on it, Winter project :D ( of sorts )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 21, 2014, 01:19:54 pm
Still not gonna be a Fireblade though :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 21, 2014, 01:23:32 pm
although I've owned a few, i hate sports bikes. They're too easy to go too fast, they cripple me but do look nice lol.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 21, 2014, 01:24:13 pm
Blackbird then :)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 21, 2014, 01:29:08 pm
Same problem, too much of a stretch for me, i did actually look at one a few weeks back, but the size of the tank and my short arms are the issue!! riding the BMW R1200 is like riding a sports bike for me lol ( in the sense of being lent forward over the tank! )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 21, 2014, 01:31:42 pm
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 21, 2014, 01:48:22 pm
do i spy a scala rider?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 21, 2014, 01:49:37 pm
Nope. Nolan has the Ncom, Lazer has LazerLink.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 21, 2014, 01:52:28 pm
oooo! been looking at getting the HJC intercom to fit in my flip front but its more than the damn helmet!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 21, 2014, 02:28:43 pm
RRP for that lid with photo-chromatic visor, bluetooth kit and pinlock is a lot (£330+85+85+26), boxed package, £420, I paid £225 :D
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 22, 2014, 04:09:28 pm
nice!! How quiet is it ( for a flip front that is )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 22, 2014, 04:13:58 pm
Seems OK, but not been on a motorway yet. Probably need plugs though. Lazer said they invested in making it light rather than quiet - 1450g so 300g lighter than my Nolan.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on November 22, 2014, 04:23:01 pm
Fair bit of weight saving for a flip front then!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: lurch1000 on November 22, 2014, 04:27:44 pm
Yup! Ive done a video review that I'll be uploading soon.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on January 09, 2018, 06:40:36 pm
Anyone still active and around on this thread?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on January 09, 2018, 06:48:10 pm
Crickey, forgot about this thread.
I still have my bike but she is in my garage unused.
Been 5 years since I last rode her. On Jan 2012 my ex took me to court in an attempt to take my 3 from me by demanding the court gave her 100% access.
She failed... and I ensured that the Children got what they wanted... 50/50 access to both her and with me.
Since then, due to reducing to part time (and no benefit support) finances became very tight to say the least. Therefore, for my childrens sake I took my bike off the road. Couldnt justify such a peraonal luxury.
I do hope that one day I may eventually be able to get back out on 2 wheels. But in the meantime Ill stick with drooling at others beautiful machines... hahaha
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on January 09, 2018, 08:03:08 pm
Ah sorry to hear that, what bike is it?
I went through a phase with a lack of funds. When I was last active on this forum back in 2012 I was a driving instructor, but I went through a bad break up, my business suffered, and I couldn't afford to keep my GSXR 600 on the road.
5 years later I'm now married and been in gainful employment for the last 4 years! I traded the gixxer in for a Suzuki V-strom 650 just over a year ago. Best decision ever, out more than I ever was before, meet up regularly with other Strom owners and we rideout mainly around Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: yorkiejeff on January 09, 2018, 09:16:03 pm
havent had a time to read the whole thread, but i have have an ex race cbr 600 that i have built into a cafe racer and a 1952 peugeot 125 that i an restoring.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on January 09, 2018, 09:20:15 pm
I wouldn't worry about reading the whole thread, 6 years of motorbike chat mainly.
Got any pics of the cafe racer? Be interested in seeing that.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: WBT12 on January 09, 2018, 09:22:26 pm
Mine is a Suzi Bandit N600...
Fancy more of a cruiser next time I invest...
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Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: yorkiejeff on January 10, 2018, 06:00:40 am
ill try and upload some soon.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 10, 2018, 11:46:59 am
I've had a few more since my last post! So since the MT-03 i've had a few more :)
MT-09 Street Rally CBR600F Repsol rep ( same as the older CBR600F i had ) XT660X that i did a stage 2 and custom exhaust ( PCV remap too )
and now a ER6F for commuting and a 17 plate V-strom 650 XT ( had it since new )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on January 10, 2018, 12:08:04 pm
What do you think of the 17 Vstrom?
Ever think of joining the owners forum?
http://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 10, 2018, 12:13:29 pm
nah, don't do forums ( apart from this, UR and RB! ) anymore.
Slightly lighter than the previous model so seems well balanced. Nice and smooth, pulls pretty strong from bottom end Seat is very comfy compared to the older models! Lights are a nice improvement, pita to get to though as you have to remove the plastic trim around the clocks to get to the low beam! good note from the exhaust, but will be changing to a full arrow now they have been released *grin*
Power is shockingly bad though. Just over 90mph top speed ( tested off road ovc ) but is pretty smooth and quick getting there. Then again, its not what the bike is made for. I just wish it had a bit more go to it though.
In all honesty, i wish i went with my first choice of the Versys 650, as that 650 engine is perfect!
I've only got about 3600 miles on it as i parked it up 2 months after getting it and not used it since lol.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 10, 2018, 12:19:36 pm
Back end of last year my partner decided to jump on the bike waggon as well. Nice little bike but it doesn't like me. Everytime i ride the thing, it tries to spit me off! (http://sgnetwork.co.uk/data/uploads/reviews/_dsc0077.JPG) (http://sgnetwork.co.uk/index.php?id=bullit-hunt-s)
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: a1154 on January 14, 2018, 11:57:02 pm
Having not been on a bike for decades, the husband talked me into an MT-07 (he paid) and I started training with IAM and passed. It’s a lovely little bike (well actually it’s a fairly big bike for a girl) but too naked for long trips. It’s a happy development in my life though, good to get back into it.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on January 15, 2018, 07:05:03 am
*applause*
Nice bike, how was the IAM test? Worth it?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 15, 2018, 08:31:00 am
Cracking little bikes the MT-07. Enjoy! :D
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: a1154 on January 16, 2018, 03:22:02 am
thanks, I do like it! I’d really recommend the IAM thing, you get as much training as you need for the money. I had 10 observed rides, which is quite a lot, most people pass with less, but my confidence wasn’t great. My instructor was brilliant, and my tester a police motorcyclist trainer (knees were knocking that day!). It feels like a big deal when someone with that sort of experience passes you as good to go. Really feels like an achievement.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on January 16, 2018, 09:26:05 am
Makes a difference to the insurance too!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on January 16, 2018, 05:16:52 pm
I've always been tempted to give it a go as I'm still not the most confident even after 10 years.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: a1154 on January 17, 2018, 04:33:10 am
I’d find out where your local group meet and just turn up for a chat. Aim for late April or May, plenty of time to have a think about it and if you want to join lots of chances for training over the summer. I could go out every Sunday with my instructor, but there were some retired chaps available weekdays and evenings too. Hope they are as friendly as my local group.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: jesim1 on February 16, 2018, 03:55:26 pm
It looks like there is a lot of common interest around the forum, here is my R1200GS.
James
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: hotashes on February 17, 2018, 01:22:53 am
It looks like there is a lot of common interest around the forum, here is my R1200GS.
James
BMW bad boy *nice*
Ashley.. Aqua oak tanks 4'x2'x2' & 5'x2'x2' both freshwater set up on apex Neptune systems.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 19, 2018, 03:01:47 pm
Have you had the fork recall done on it yet? If not phone up your local dealer and get it booked in. Its just larger collars at the top of the forks as they have had a few issues with them snapping! Just had ours done ( R1200GS Adventure )
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Feliss on February 23, 2018, 10:29:59 am
I'm looking to learn soon. My OH bought me a 50cc scootscoot to learn on to begin with and then will upgrade me once I've got the hang of it. He also likes buying a project to do up :P
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: fr499y on February 27, 2018, 09:44:43 am
50cc's aren't safe in my opinion. Too slow, too twitchy and people don't respect them!
Stick to the middle of the road, don't let car drivers push you to the inside edge! make them over take you like any other road user. Personally i would learn on a 125 as they have a bit more go and can actually keep up with traffic.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: jesim1 on March 01, 2018, 06:22:40 pm
Have you had the fork recall done on it yet? If not phone up your local dealer and get it booked in. Its just larger collars at the top of the forks as they have had a few issues with them snapping! Just had ours done ( R1200GS Adventure )
I spoke to them about 3 months ago and there were no parts available, but was told mine was fine anyway and it would be done in due course - they still have not called me!
James
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: jesim1 on March 01, 2018, 06:24:47 pm
I organise weeks away.. normally in early September and to the Eifel region of Germany. Or the Vercors in southern France.. or to the Austrian Alps. This year hopefully to the Dolomites. (Attachment Link)
I'll hit Europe at some point this year, I've got a CTC from LA to Orlando booked over a 3 week period at the end of this year on a HD RK, so I'll be doing at least 6/8k miles on bikes this year - let the good times role.............
James
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: Feliss on March 02, 2018, 11:20:35 am
50cc's aren't safe in my opinion. Too slow, too twitchy and people don't respect them!
Stick to the middle of the road, don't let car drivers push you to the inside edge! make them over take you like any other road user. Personally i would learn on a 125 as they have a bit more go and can actually keep up with traffic.
Ah we've only got that for me to practice on, it's because I can drive it without having to take CBT on my existing driving licence. I have an issue with u-turns i need to sort out :D
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: yorkiejeff on March 03, 2018, 09:05:34 am
thought i might show off my little baby( or rust bucket as the wife calls it. anyone who can identify it gets the grand prize. *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: plankton on March 03, 2018, 09:14:21 am
It looks a lot like my old BSA 250 Starfire......but not quite as clean as mine was until it went under a lorry.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: yorkiejeff on March 03, 2018, 09:29:06 am
close ish plankton. its a 125, but in the middle of being restored at the mo. any more gueses?
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: jesim1 on March 03, 2018, 12:18:53 pm
Suspiciously like a BSA Bantam - the clock in Km is not what I recall - but I was very young when these were still on the road, so not something I'd have noticed back then.
James
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: plankton on March 03, 2018, 12:45:28 pm
That made me have a check.......Apparently my old bike number is now on a Peugeot 206.........
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: yorkiejeff on March 03, 2018, 09:33:36 pm
nice one, it is a peugeot 125 gls of 1952 vintage will ty and get get pics of my sexy, naughty 600 race/ cafe racer.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: a1154 on June 02, 2018, 12:47:09 pm
I have been noticing more and more how all bikers in my area (and we get loads of tourists) wave or nod. Apparently if they just ignore you then they must be German, as it’s not the done thing in Germany. Everyone else I find super friendly. I’m noticing this certainly doesn’t apply to scooters. (Anybody want to say why not?). Scooter riders and bikers aren’t the same breed, are they? Except that yesterday, I got a lovely wave from a scooter boy! Strange but very nice. It left me wondering all day why the have a (presumably fake) fox tail hanging off the back? What is this about??
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: plankton on June 03, 2018, 10:14:15 am
"It left me wondering all day why the have a (presumably fake) fox tail hanging off the back? What is this about??"
In the '70s Esso used to give away free (fake) tiger's tails with every so many gallons of petrol purchased. It could be a hangover from that. I had a scooter (bought for half a crown) before I got the bike and used to have one dangled of both handlebar ends. They were probably worth more than the scooter! *grin*
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: stonec0ld on June 03, 2018, 10:20:06 am
I like a good nod. Not a fan of the wave or flashing lights, makes me worry that something is falling off my bike or there's a speed camera up ahead.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: a1154 on June 03, 2018, 12:25:01 pm
Absolutely agree, a nod is the best option.
Hadn’t heard of tiger tails, interesting....we are going to need to see photographic evidence plankton, you, the scooter, the tiger tails. Get scanning, I’m waiting!
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: plankton on June 03, 2018, 07:36:59 pm
Pfffff!!! I only paid 2/6 for the scooter, you don't think I could afford a camera then, do you!?? ;) *grin* I have no pictures of me from about 6 to about 36, except one of my first car that went (it was actually my second car, but the first one never went.... *rolleyes* )....
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: a1154 on June 04, 2018, 08:54:25 am
Well that’s a disappointment Plankton.
I still don’t get it. If the mods had fox tails it must have been about looking cool, not something jokey and naff like furry dice.
Title: Re: Motorbikes
Post by: plankton on June 05, 2018, 04:45:29 pm
No, it was more like the precursor for furry dice. ;) *grin*