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Title: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 09:12:21 pm
Hi my name is Tim and I am having a fish tank crisis,

One of my fish died and I don't know what to do, I have had them over a year no problems apart from white spot,

Breakdown of what I have done over the last 48 hrs

My tank had a leak 48 hrs ago so I bought a new tank yesterday and began to set it up using the water from my old tank to the new tank, I did not wash anything put all my old tank gravel and  ornaments in, and put my old tank filter in as well without washing it, topped up remaining water with my treatments as u do, today I found one of my fish died unknow as of yet why,
I think my tank is cycling I have added a photo of dead fish and my tank,

I am afraid of losing more fish so any help would be appreciated

Do I do 25 percent water change? Or just leave it? Or am I missing somthing
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 09:15:45 pm
Pictures
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: kas on July 26, 2015, 09:16:45 pm
Hi Tim. Sorry to hear you lost your fish. The best place to start is the water. What are your ammonia and nitrite readings?
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 09:28:14 pm
Many thanks, I am unsure at the moment till 2moz as I have ran out and pets at home (only place near me) don't have any as I have already been there, and order a kit which should be in 2moz, but the dead fish looks like is has a burn on his head which I notice yesterday but he was happy last night, I'll post a pic in a min, one other fish looks abit iffy, oscar looks happy and my dj looks alright, just my rainbow looks abit stressed right out
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 09:31:34 pm
Fish
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: kas on July 26, 2015, 09:32:10 pm
I would do a 50% water change now just in case.
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 09:35:19 pm
Even tho I only filled it up yesterday ? Ok I right on that now leave the fish in there yeah?
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: kas on July 26, 2015, 09:39:23 pm
From your first post you suggested that you filled your new tank with the water from the existing leaking tank? When did you last do a water change, and apologies if I have misunderstood?
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 09:41:08 pm
Yeah I use 70litres from my old tank and filled the rest up with fresh water gone from a 70l tank to 180l
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 09:42:26 pm
Last water change in the small tank was 2 weeks ago and that was a 25%
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: kas on July 26, 2015, 09:53:28 pm
Understood. Difficult to say what might have happened without results of water test. I do a water change of 40% once a week.
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2015, 10:04:34 pm
Sorry to hear of your fish loss.

Sounds like an ammonia/nitrite spike.
All the crap from the unwashed old gravel stirred up in the new tank.

What fish died? I can not tell which species from the photo.

Do you have a new filter for the bigger new tank?

Best wishes
Stephen
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 10:22:40 pm
I did leave most of the crap in the tank tbh, was a Malawi fish got my old filter running and a new one that glued into the tank jewel pump 600, I was always told when moving to a new tank not to wash anything and the run filter along side the new one for at least a week or is this incorrect?
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 10:24:36 pm
And the tank is now clearing
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2015, 10:32:46 pm
I did leave most of the crap in the tank tbh, was a Malawi fish got my old filter running and a new one that glued into the tank jewel pump 600, I was always told when moving to a new tank not to wash anything and the run filter along side the new one for at least a week or is this incorrect?

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I was always told when moving to a new tank not to wash anything and the run filter along side the new one for at least a week or is this incorrect?
This is kind of true but normally refers to the filter and filter media.
I would of washed all the crap out of the gravel though.
Kept as much old water as possible and dosed with Tetra Safe Start (TSS) to replenish the beneficial bacteria in the tank.

How have you hardened your water to keep Malawi cichlids?
I thought it was a cichlid in the photo but told myself that Tiverton water was too soft for Malawi cichlids.

Stephen
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 10:45:30 pm
Noted for the future, I was unwear about the water hardness, he has been fine till now grown over 4in within 9 months and had a really nice electric blue colour we moved here 4 months ago from Cornwall as the fish took it very well. My concern was he had what looked like burns on his skin if u look at the photo I will post one of him last week that I took
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 10:48:09 pm
Noted for the future, I was unwear about the water hardness, he has been fine till now grown over 4in within 9 months and had a really nice electric blue colour we moved here 4 months ago from Cornwall as the fish took it very well. My concern was he had what looked like burns on his skin if u look at the photo I will post one of him last week that I took
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2015, 11:04:20 pm
He was a beautiful fish.

Is that the tail of an opaline gourami I see?

There are South American cichlids that will do well in your water.
They are generally a soft water species unlike the African lake cichlids which require hard water.

Hope it helps
Good Luck!

Stephen
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 26, 2015, 11:12:39 pm
No that is a jack Dempsey tail, also have an Oscar, pleco, rainbow cichlid, I will be looking for a new fish to replace it in the near future once the tank is sorted but unsure what to put in with the fish I got, I will look into the American cichlid
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2015, 11:20:18 pm
Jack Dempsey, the Oscar and Rainbow cichlid are South American cichlids.
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: plankton on July 27, 2015, 10:15:23 am
I'll guess that the reason they're dying suddenly is either that there has been something disturbed, or that the cichlids have been fighting over new territories after the move.
Title: Re: Emergency crisis fish died what to do now after tank swap
Post by: Tpricey on July 27, 2015, 01:35:50 pm
Like I said before I think he might of got stuck benide the heater and got burnt as he had patches on him on his head and gills, I will agree with Steven that it properly was a nirate spike from not washing the gravel, levels are correct now and ph is a little low at the moment, so my guess is he got burn and the spike finished him off, and there are no other signs of injuries cause but other fish, and when I tested the levels this morning they were high