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Title: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 08, 2017, 08:18:40 pm
Where to begin, suppose the start really...
Started fish keeping around 2 years ago after me and my OH bought our first tank, an aquael 54l. After reading about fishless cycling, i followed the route using food. Anyway after several weeks of cycling (December 2014 to around feb/march 2015) testing using the test strips (oh yes newbie mistakes all round haha) and the parameters coming up "acceptable", we got our first fish from an lfs that i'm banned from (by my OH) on the basis i might get locked away haha
Anyway our first fish were some guppies and mossy/tiger barbs (good old lfs advice) which as we soon discovered turned out to be a complete disaster (as you can imagine but please dont :( )
After much faffing about with this lfs and our fish selection we eventually, got things sorted and ended up with our CPD and a couple of guppies and a female swordtail, but we decided to change lfs. This is the point where I discovered how useless the strips are as the new lfs wanted to test our water before we started with any fish, which revealed (can you guess?):
High nitrite reading, meaning tank hadn't fully cycled (nice one E!). The advice given by this lfs was liquid test kit (although they would test it for us for free), seachem prime, daily water changes and no fish until it was clear :)
The guppies never made it through the tail end of the cycle to my OH's dismay (she does love guppies lol) fortunately everyone else did and around the start of April once everything had cleared up, we went to do some fish shopping and got our first platys (the grandparents of some of the fish i have now :) ), we also had to swap our original swordtail as she had grown so big so fast and was starting to chase the CPD around the tank so this is also around when we got Monica (whoo!). We had platy babies by july/august (good old livebearers!) this was the point we picked up our small 15l tank which we raised the first batches of fry until we moved them on.
The September was when i got the 100l Fluval, this was partly (mostly) upgrade and partly down to growing the fry on. This eventually resulted in the old talk of "what are we doing with the tans after the babies grow etc" to which we decided my OH would keep a couple of the babies she liked and "her" tank would be the 54l and i'd have the 100l (and MTS begins...lol)
We both picked different fish for "our" tanks, and in true newbie fashion ended up with soft water fish in our lovely hard water (honey gourami, rams and dwarf gourami) to which afterwards i learnt how osmosis works and what the hardness of water means. I do believe this does have a bearing on particularly fish in the wrong water healing from injury/sickness. My hard water fish seem to recoup quicker than my soft water, it might just be me or it could be species variation speeds of healing.
Anyway back to the point (is there one?) after having a fairly "settled" few months we (OH and myself) got back onto the topic of a bigger tank again (april time)as she decided she wanted something bigger than the 54l. A few weeks later (so here we go again.. ;) https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php/topic,197506.0.html)
Then a few weeks later along comes our 180l vision (may). Swapped everything over that was going into the 180l. The resultant months after this can be followed in the link above (considering it was meant to be a fry log haha)
The only other major change for us was September last year we changed from plastic plants and fake decor to all real plants and wood in the 180l and 100l.
(https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php/topic,208745.0.html)
Otherwise its just been a bit of a shuffle with tank mates to keep things happy.
Currently we do have all 4 tanks running and all are quite quiet after the weekend just gone where i have finally moved on all my fry. This is part of the reason for the log as we will now stock with some new species and i thought it might be a good (sort of) starting point and a few of you will already know a lot of the fun I've had along the way, so sorry for the repeat lol ;)
Our current stocking is now:
54l aquael:
Marsellus (dwarf gourami)

100l fluval:
2 male platys
Arnie (hi fin plat-tail [swordtail platy cross])
2 CPD (1m, 1f)

180l Vision:
Monica (female swordtail)
6 platy (all female)
3 juvenile survivors (1 plat-tail 2 platy currently all female)
2 red honey gourami

Anyway if you've read all this (and it makes sense) i am impressed and thank you, hopefully it didn't take you as long to read it as what it did for me to remember and type up! On a plus the updates from here on will (should) be smaller :)


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Suelo on February 08, 2017, 08:33:09 pm
Well, it has been a journey for you! Been following your platy fry thread with interest - looking forward to seeing what you do next.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 08, 2017, 08:38:42 pm
Yeah just a little, loads of newbie mistakes (just to really show it happens to us all lol). I'm like a kid at christmas atm trying to work out what were going to go for next, and my head is swimming with the info i've been reading and trying to avoid doing something daft again lol


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 08, 2017, 08:46:48 pm
Just a couple of starter pics:
The 54l and Marsellus:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170208/e43bad700e6925c40a2fa1fbb5117ac4.jpg)
And when he realised what i was upto haha
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170208/295699aceb30e4b7d21f46cf583ef678.jpg)
The 100l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170208/00fccb37bc86bea42d58cd74ed9daf96.jpg)
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170208/a645348fb38430654013c32a14c27ad9.jpg)


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: plankton on February 09, 2017, 09:36:28 am
I wish I'd been listening to "Carry On Wayward Son" reading the original post, it was bit like the start of Supernatural....... ;) *grin* (It was Boston, Higher Power, so it wasn't the same really.....)
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: kas on February 09, 2017, 10:11:40 am
A great introduction to your new log.
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 09, 2017, 11:11:56 am
Thats in my head for day now Ian! (Kansas not Boston although im partial to both ;) )
Sounds as if it was a good start though and i now have a theme song lol


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 09, 2017, 04:00:01 pm
On a tiny update for today, it looks as though we will be putting another order in with AG, as my OH wants to get rid of all the fake plants. So i'll be planting Marsellus's pad out soon. Theres already a couple of little shoots in there that i added just to see if i can grow them, plus Newbie's water lettuce.
I'll be on the look out for some wood for him when we go fish shopping next week :D


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Post by: Drunken horse on February 09, 2017, 04:04:44 pm
On a tiny update for today, it looks as though we will be putting another order in with AG, as my OH wants to get rid of all the fake plants. So i'll be planting Marsellus's pad out soon. Theres already a couple of little shoots in there that i added just to see if i can grow them, plus Newbie's water lettuce.
I'll be on the look out for some wood for him when we go fish shopping next week :D


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If you have a range near you check it out.  12.99 for pieces of Mopani which must weigh 2kg.  No idea who posted about it but it was a great shout
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 09, 2017, 05:00:29 pm
Thanks DH, I think it was Newbie (not totally sure), i do quite often check out what they have when im in there so might have to take a trip and have a look :)


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on February 09, 2017, 07:14:13 pm
Hi Iain good to see you finally got a log up.
Yeah I did mention tye Range wood. I can't remember who but it was mentioned by someone else that they do smaller bits for £1.99. That's when I went to check it out and discovered that they do large bits for £12.99. I originally guessed it was 10kg but I have just weighed mine and its 5kg. A bit out with the guess but still a cracking bit of wood. Definitely worth having a look.
It is nice to get a run down of your experience. We have probably all made mistakes when starting out, especially with the "wrong" fish.
You are a lucky man to have a OH that allows MTS to take hold. I feel so guilty about the empty 95l on my patio.  :mad:
I think you should definitely get some more guppies even if only as a thank you to the OH.

I am looking forward to seeing the next chapter of your journey unfold.  Good luck.
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 09, 2017, 07:44:17 pm
Thanks Newbie :)
I have thought about getting her some guppies, even if its all males ;) i did see some really striking ones the other week at our lfs, looked like a pinnatus batfish colour pattern, but i think she would like to pick them (and then probably name them as well lol).
I figured with the run down it at least gives everyone an idea on where i've come from with fish-keeping, and how i know some of the things i know, which is also how i came to join this forum and gained huge amounts of information, which i have followed and has proven to help and improve our experience as fishkeepers (a massive thanks to all the TFF heroes for that :) )
I haven't included everything that happened as some things came and went (ich, swim bladder issues etc) but that comes when i need it, just have to search the mind cave. Plus i'd be here for about 2 years remembering it all lmao
I think the MTS with my OH comes from my love for the hobby and her love for animals, she might not have as much interest as me but she would soon be onto me if i started letting things slide ;)
With regards to the wood its only got to fit the 54l and allow Marsellus some room (hes angry enough without being able to move lol) but i shall definitely be having a look.


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Calmwaters on February 09, 2017, 09:19:37 pm
Pleased to see you've started your log. I will be following it with interest  thumbsup
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 14, 2017, 07:22:10 pm
Not a lot has been happening lately. I've been thinking of having a rearrange of the plants in the left corner of the 100l, as the valis has seemed to have gone to nothing yet its thriving in the 180l, so im thinking of moving it into there to see if it comes back. Valis by the filter is holding up pretty well though. I'm thinking i might move the java fern at the front of the arch wood to the corner to fill out the space. I have also "attached" (wedged) a few of the baby java ferns onto some of the wood and they seem to be holding for now and growing, although one did decide to take a tour of the tank for a few days even though i kept reattaching it :/
On a sad note i did lose my platy with the tumour earlier today, i had tried everything for him but nothing availed the tumour just got bigger, im also not sure if it split and this caused his death :/ so i've even questioned if i did do right by him by not putting him out of his misery sooner. Either way its done now and i cant change it. Means i can shut down the QT, it wont be any help for the new fish were looking at, as its too small to really keep a vast number or size of fish. So its going to be a fun time keeping close eyes on the tanks when we do decide and go for what we're aiming for :)
Cant decide how to feel today happy, excited, sad, and confused cover a few lol


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: kas on February 14, 2017, 08:11:29 pm
Sorry to hear about the platy, bit a least you have a bit of tank tinkering to look forward too.
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Post by: LittleTinca on February 14, 2017, 08:29:47 pm
Interesting read, those are some lovely tanks. I look forward to reading more :)
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Post by: Suelo on February 14, 2017, 10:53:03 pm
So sorry to hear about your platy.  :(
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 14, 2017, 11:34:58 pm
Thanks all :)
I think it was inevitable with the platy :/
I'll keep you up to date with any more goings on, especially the results of the weekend coming :) i'm planning the rearrange tomorrow so i'll post some updated pics then :)


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: plankton on February 15, 2017, 09:22:50 am
Sorry about the platy. :(
It's always hard to make that decision, at least he spent his time with his mates.
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 15, 2017, 12:03:42 pm
Mates and brothers ;)


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Post by: Calmwaters on February 16, 2017, 10:42:50 pm
Ah sorry for your loss. Tough call as well. You did what you thought was best & gave him a chance, the little guy is not suffering any longer though hey.
Exciting times coming up.


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 17, 2017, 12:34:22 am
Thanks CW, the next few days will definitely be exciting though, my OH has been talking more about planting out Marsellus's tank so i might be putting an order in with AG again a bit sooner than expected. But that will be the last of the fakery (except my little dragon in the 100l but hes staying ;) ) everything will be live or living in some shape or form :)


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 17, 2017, 06:02:53 pm
So took a trip out today. Got ourselves some new inhabitants for our tanks :) not the best pics a few are a bit zippy and ones hiding...just need to let them settle down a bit more :)
The 100l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170217/dda8c4d2435a1fdcffbb9ef981597bb9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170217/f1748469d29ebffd48c7bba18cdaf35d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170217/2d7957afdb0188c20e1dab76d2e42244.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170217/665c74602d5ad289bf7ce88f93211268.jpg)
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170217/ae0134936d4a413055ebe05eb838189a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170217/327c954071754a9bb2a57e291f8b29b9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170217/a06aa38e8f1e271999d04515092c69d0.jpg)


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on February 17, 2017, 06:33:07 pm
Nice buys, where did you get them from? I would be interested in some cacs if you managed to breed them.
Title: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 17, 2017, 07:15:55 pm
Thanks mate :) got them MA Leicester this afternoon. Got 1 male (double red apparently) and 3 female (orange)cacs, the male is a brute but its the one my OH fancied so we will see how he goes, already had a bit of showing off from him flaring his fins at anything orange (err...lol) and my OH also discovered how big his mouth is and he has quite a gob on him haha
The rainbows are the p. Signifer and i think i love them already, the energy of them and males sparring is amusing and mesmerising, should get more colourful as they settle and grow (they're pretty small atm). Exciting times :)


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Post by: Calmwaters on February 17, 2017, 08:42:01 pm
Lovely looking fish in both tanks.
Excuse my Newbie ignorance but what type of fish are they in both tanks lol?
Bet you & your OH are having great fun watching the new editions find their places in their new homes.


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 17, 2017, 08:54:06 pm
Thanks CW, no ignorance at all i've been reading up a lot about both lately to (hopefully) make sure we make a suitable decision.
The new fish in the 100l are 8 Pacific blue eye rainbowfish (pseudomogil signifer), i have 3 males and 5 females.
In the 180l we got 4 cockatoo cichlid (apistogramma cacatuiodes), 1 male and 3 females (all the females they had ;) )
Just keeping an eye on everything atm make sure everyone is happy and settling.


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Calmwaters on February 17, 2017, 09:24:01 pm
Lol thanks.
All look great. Enjoy! :D


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Post by: kas on February 18, 2017, 08:44:34 pm
Delighted for you. You've always wanted rainbows and dwarf cichlids. All the best of luck with them. Lovely fish thumbsup
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 18, 2017, 09:37:06 pm
Thanks Kas, i hadn't even realised that i have what i wanted in the sense of dwarf cichlids and rainbows lol my subconscious plan worked haha


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Post by: plankton on February 19, 2017, 11:54:05 am
Very nice Iain! *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 19, 2017, 12:49:22 pm
Thanks Ian :)
I'm well impressed with the signifers, they have spent about 90% of the time in the open part of the tank, chasing each other round displaying like crazy, its ace to watch, they even occasionally bring the CPD and my yellow platy into it all with them (think they've confused him for one of them haha).
The male apisto has ventured round quite a lot, he met Monica, went to chase her and she turned on him and he backed up. She may still be a bit thinner than she was and still a bit fluttery with her swimming but shes eating well very active and is still the boss! Lol the females seem to have their favourite spots (they like the roots and under the log) but venture around the entire bottom, the male is always flaring his fins at them and i did see a "tail slap" yesterday from him, think he's got to wait for them to grow a bit first, they are tiny compared to him lol


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Post by: Suelo on February 19, 2017, 01:04:17 pm
They sound great, looking forward to a vid soon...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 19, 2017, 01:27:42 pm
I'll try and get some pics and a vid later on, got water changes and clipping and fert dosing to do, i'm a couple of days out between shifts and wanting to let the new ones settle a bit first before starting changes :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 20, 2017, 12:24:13 am
Ok so as promised, changes and dosing done, i also took the time to move the valis from the 100l to the 180l, surprised me as the bigger bit had actually sent out runners and had 3 other small plants attached to it! I've separated them and planted them.
Also moved the java fern from the front of the arch wood in the 100l to the corner where the valis was, fills out the corner nicely i think :) just hope it all settles.
Also bought a couple of presents for Marsellus, not that he really looks happy about it, but we will see how it goes when i put them in for him. Thanks for "the range" tip got both pieces for £1.99 each, i'll get some pics of them properly in a few days or so.
We've had some interesting behaviour from the apistos, 2 of the females have been tilting either way in front of him and he has returned the gesture while flaring his fins. One pair has even been hiding behind the filter and doing something similar to angels breeding, her rubbing down part of the filter and him doing the same after her, 2 days they've been in our tank 2 days and already looks like they're exhibiting pairing behaviour! I'm thinking of sending a sample of our water to Vale! To see whats really in it lol still cant manage to get them all in a position for pics though :/
Anyway heres the pics and vids:

Marsellus's house:
The new presents
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/984d5cafe2d894e5df4d9e9d6b3dee13.jpg)
Marsellus showing off
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/81f21c29529ad053856e368c45246032.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/0e95ce9347a2b383d87c5545d7094741.jpg)

The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/0a5ba6b43e5e8f7a42c7dc34c82d5985.jpg)
"Bubba" showing off (theres a Forrest Gump reference there somewhere ;) )
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/43befa7a472dc2c94184eaafbd674879.jpg)
One of the females
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/17dee6e83e1c704cd9bb37075ace25b8.jpg)
The behaviour pics between him and his females (2 out of 3 aint bad lol)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/b9eaf9c50960481a32d4cdd491a495bd.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/1898337a4027ff3d92517b9aaeef65cb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/dd39bb2b7d9dc57a44b5bf228907eff3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/e80efad16794577cc44b357c6dde8951.jpg)



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 20, 2017, 12:34:37 am
The 100l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/828f7bf358dcfbbf72b06d3db5500e8d.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/dc04abfb3ac168f2f37f4cb954e5c2fb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/75be06830bada02ae179f1b2614493fb.jpg)
One of the male signifers :)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/ad676fadcb05d5db768be82e9e3d75f0.jpg)

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Post by: plankton on February 20, 2017, 09:02:13 am
Double post removed ;)
Looking good.
Told you cacs liked hard water...... :P
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Post by: Calmwaters on February 20, 2017, 10:47:12 am
The apistos look fab & great they are pairing up already, there's definitely something in your water lol.
Rainbows looking good too.
Marsellus looking the dude & hard to please as ever lol.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 20, 2017, 11:20:31 am
Thanks Ian, it always double posts when i add a load of pics! And you did say they like hard water, just wasn't expecting them to like it so much ;)
Thanks CW, Marsellus will always be hard to please lol i'll see how he does with the new wood when i put it in for him.


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Post by: KevB on February 20, 2017, 11:54:44 am
Will be interested to see how the P signifiers go on, I was thinking of those when I set up my tank but for some reason either couldnt find them or got sidetracked with other species. They always look good on the youtube tanks 'flashing' away.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 20, 2017, 01:49:24 pm
I'll keep you posted Kev and let you know :) so far they are a favourite of mine for the display and flashing, very eye catching :)


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Post by: KevB on February 20, 2017, 02:58:31 pm
The other Aussie fish that does a lot of that type of display is the Empire Gudgeon but not regularly seen in UK shops and apparently very difficult to breed.
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Post by: Elephant999 on February 20, 2017, 03:33:27 pm
Love the plants in your tanks and the Cockatoo Cichlids which are my next purchase.  Are they hard to find?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 20, 2017, 05:29:13 pm
Cant say i've seen any around Kev, i have heard of them though. I'll have to have a bit more of a read up on them. I might see if my water satisfies the breeding/mating need ;) (it has with the others so far lmao)
Thanks Elephant :) i wouldn't say they're hard to find, but i did have to do some ringing about first to check availability in stores before going. I got mine from Maidenhead Aquatics Leicester, i had all the females they had though lol


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Post by: Elephant999 on February 20, 2017, 05:55:20 pm
Thank you.  I've got a Maidenhead Aquatics in Chester so will ring them in a couple of weeks when I'm ready to add more fish.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 24, 2017, 12:45:11 pm
Bit of a sad note today. Lost my little yellow platy :( came down to check the tanks and he was nose down on the sand and rigid. No marks on him, maybe looking a little tubby but nothing out of the ordinary. He would've been coming up for 2 years old which is just short of average life span but i do wonder if his stunted growth may have had something to do with it, or even if the new signifers pestered him a bit much. Either way all i can do is speculate, at least he can join "Bubbles" our late ram and continue his obsession with her when we had her
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Post by: Suelo on February 24, 2017, 01:08:56 pm
Sorry to hear you lost your fish :(
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Post by: kas on February 24, 2017, 02:43:38 pm
RIP little fishy. Sorry to hear that.
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Post by: Calmwaters on February 24, 2017, 08:28:59 pm
Sorry for your loss, never easy.


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on February 24, 2017, 11:12:23 pm
That's unfortunate. At least
 he is with his girlfriend again
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Post by: plankton on February 25, 2017, 09:56:42 am
Sorry you lost him :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 25, 2017, 10:10:45 am
Thanks everyone
as usual its the not knowing that will bug me. Tested the tank and did a small change incase, all parameters same as always. I've been keeping a closer eye on the tanks due to the new additions anyway, and hadn't noticed anything untoward with any of them. The signifers did pester him a little for the first couple of days, but it was never for more than for a few seconds before they'd become distracted with themselves and leave him be (wonder if it was just to do with his size and colour). As i say all i can do is guess and wonder :/


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 28, 2017, 01:46:12 pm
Not too much going on atm. One of the female apistos seems to be keeping the others out of her corner by the filter and she is looking more yellow than the others...cant see any eggs or anything but cant see if properly though as shes picked the most awkward corner lol
They all seemed to have picked their places though, and the male seems to have calmed a bit an doesnt seem so bothered with everyone. Looks like we might have a couple more of the little ones turning male so they wil be getting moved to my tank.
Got some new "holy grails" for feeding, bit more durable than the disposable shot glasses ;)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/acab648c6097fc4bafb32c8f36c5db60.jpg)
I'll get some pics later, still cant upload videos tapatalk being a nuisance after its update. I'll try and work something out


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 28, 2017, 10:20:00 pm
Heres a couple of pics, not all the best as per my usual photography skills.
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/b03150c4fa37bb74534f55d36d8f8531.jpg)
Our blue and orange platy with a female apisto and 2 "plattails"
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/6609bcc6997bc411b23b052f2f092470.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/8a8b1e7d81c7ff5090741d6f2ebe71e5.jpg)
Yellow female guarding her spot
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/0ddbd867cd2ba1070ad0af054bbdf651.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/4ef9c1e83a2d6c947d9281bc514c6579.jpg)
The 100l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/488384bc3a89536710b468e7a3c03b7f.jpg)
Arnie showing off
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/dfd4f71531b869fd1e986907b66365e3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/dc20df968d424919c39d415ac779c4f5.jpg)
The boys
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/02aa19d51ae756a0a4e13a813a1141cf.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/827f5724d50f7f2ac4ca870db0bb715a.jpg)
Signifers
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/fd37dc6b20cdd968ae6e03f2047c1b73.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/5ac1d6befaab69f75d75d4eba8a7f974.jpg)

And something appeared in Marsellus's tank...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170228/9f3537a0a25b06d062afd7fdae11b57e.jpg)


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Post by: Suelo on February 28, 2017, 10:40:15 pm
All looking good. Ooh, does Marsellus now have live plants in his tank too? I like it - hope he enjoys them.
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Post by: Calmwaters on February 28, 2017, 11:01:57 pm
Looking good. Hope Marsellus is enjoying his plants & new bog wood :D
Also on the posting video front, do you have a YouTube account? If you do ( or you could set one up) then you can post videos on there & then copy & paste the web address (minus the s in the https: bit) into your post & your video will be embedded right there.
I found this info posted by someone else on this forum & it has worked for me. :D


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Post by: slackenby1974 on February 28, 2017, 11:33:08 pm
Looking good. Loving the new fishes!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 28, 2017, 11:45:49 pm
Thanks guys
Yes Marsellus has a few more live plants, there was already 2 in there that i'd been trying to grow from a couple of leaves, the dwarf hygrophila at the left end of the right hand wood arch and the crypt on the other end of the same arch, the others are ones i've taken from my 100l and a baby java fern that was growing in the 180l. I figured i couldn't put the wood in without any plants, just have to see how he gets on with it now until i order him some more :)
I'll have a look at the youtube thing, i did read it on here a little while back.


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Post by: KevB on March 01, 2017, 10:00:23 am
Good stuff, those little blue eyes are charming. Is that dwarf lettuce on the surface? I really should have some surface plants but got to figure a way of them not moving around too much, maybe coral them in with some air line and suckers.
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Post by: plankton on March 01, 2017, 10:55:25 am
Very nice Iain. :)
Marsellus is a lucky gourami. *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 01, 2017, 10:02:03 pm
Thanks guys :) Marsellus is a lucky gourami, I'm surprised as it was my OH who said about planting it out for him, dont think she hates him that much lol
Yes Kev it is water lettuce, started as a handful i got off Newbie when i dropped some platys to him, its spreads like wildfire and is now in all 3 of my tanks lol i can send you some if you want, mine used to move around with the filter flow, not so much anymore ;)


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on March 01, 2017, 11:14:54 pm
Haha glad that the water lettuce is doing well for you. It is like a plague when it gets going lol.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 02, 2017, 11:44:55 pm
Well another sad turn of events, i'm down to one CPD...with no sign of a body or anything for that matter :/
My OH was not impressed she felt bad (as did i) that we missed it, but i did say with the past 2 days we've both been out of the house most of the day until the later evenings, still doesn't really make us feel any better about it (especially not my OH) *sigh*
Just the lone female left now, shes been out and about a bit this evening with no one to bother her, sad as the male was never far away from her if not chasing her or her chasing him. Spent ages watching (more than normal if possible) the tank to see i could see any untoward behaviour. Nothing other than the signifers pestering and flashing at each other.
Tested the tank everything is spot on like always (0 amm, 0 nitrite, 40/80 nitrate, ph 7.4)
On another note Marsellus's tank is starting to look a bit stained today :) i'll check the ph to see how it goes, might please him a bit if it drops just have to make sure its gradual if it does and stays stable
All fun and games (well not all but yeah..)


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Post by: plankton on March 03, 2017, 09:36:13 am
CPDs do have a habit of just dropping dead. :(
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Post by: Calmwaters on March 03, 2017, 11:09:23 am
:( sorry for your loss


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Post by: kas on March 03, 2017, 04:42:27 pm
That's a bummer. Sorry to hear about the CPD. Will you get another one to keep the female company?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 03, 2017, 06:33:06 pm
I'd kind of given up on them after i lost 4 in fairly quick succession last summer, leaving me the 2 (again), so i hadn't planned on upping their numbers again but now we have the "shes all alone" talks, so we are still debating whether to or not


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Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 03, 2017, 07:03:29 pm
CPD's hard to look after then, would you say Iain?

Sorry about your losses :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 03, 2017, 07:18:56 pm
They're not really hard to look after, apparently you do need to be careful of tank mates with them, but i've not had any issues since we moved "big red" (our first female swordtail on, she got too big) and she used to chase my original 2 on occasion. Not even Marsellus was bothered by them.
They can be quite shy sometimes though which is where the issue of keeping an eye on them becomes difficult as they pick the densest most awkward spots to seek refuge, and they are so quick when they want to be you cant be certain your looking at the same one, at least not when i had 6, i knew my original 2's markings so easy to id, but the others it was a bit more difficult.
So i dont think its the keeping them thats the issue more the fact i've had some bad luck and I'm a bit disheartened by it.


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Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 03, 2017, 07:26:38 pm
I would suggest getting more so that "she's not alone" but if you're disheartened by it then look into something else. Direct your passion towards a small and lively little addition that you've never kept before that you could keep with your water :) a new venture, kind of thing
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 03, 2017, 07:34:46 pm
Lol thats why we got the apistos (180l) and the signifers (100l) a fortnight ago today, something different to the 250ish livebearers that we've bought/bred and grown up over the time we've had the tanks (just over 2years) :)


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Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 03, 2017, 07:40:18 pm
Wow! 250ish!? That's an impressive number haha

I think it's fair to say you're a bit of a Livebearer expert then? haha I know who to come to if I ever decide to go down that route! ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 03, 2017, 07:57:31 pm
Lol i wouldnt go as far as to say i'm an expert, i've learnt a few things to say the least. Most were platys and "plattails" as i found out you shouldnt keep platys and swordtails together lol but a lot of rules apply across the livebearers, so i'll happily help with what i know if you ever go down that route lol


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Post by: Suelo on March 03, 2017, 08:36:45 pm
I'm sorry to hear about your CPD  :( It's hard to work out what to for the best about getting any more. If you think on it for a few days you can see how you & your OH feel then.
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Post by: plankton on March 04, 2017, 10:48:06 am
I usually leave them on their own, fish will often spend time with a different species, and if you have trouble keeping them, it's not worth getting more and the same upset again.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 04, 2017, 12:54:33 pm
Thanks Suelo
Thats our thinking Ian, just going to keep an eye on her now, as thats 2 fish i've lost in my tank in a fortnight. And as you say the CPDs have a habit of just dying, so i think i will be leaving them, at least for now.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 08, 2017, 07:07:16 pm
Well didn't have to leave it long...lost the female monday, found her amongst the plants when doing the changes, struggling to stay upright and swim properly. Quickly put her in the hatchery while i went to setup the QT, she looked a bit pine coney and bloated as well :/ by time i got half way through setting up the qt she'd gone, not sure what happened. I'd seen her sunday night feeding and swimming about so initially thought she'd eaten a bit much (i have seen them eat an entire bloodworm before now!). Wasn't until monday i noticed something was wrong. Either way so ends my current CPD adventure, shame as the first two i had were 2 of my longest running fish.
Everyone else is ok, rainbows pestering each other, think they've grown a bit and one of the 3 males has a slightly longer first dorsal than the other 2, so starting to be able to identify them :) cant say the same for the females though lol
Bubba and his females in the 180l are are doing well, seen a bit of displaying and tail slapping earlier, the yellow female still guarding her corner, i think one of the other females has claimed the other corner and the third seems to be using the gap under the moss ball at the front (against the glass) and under the wood as her area. Neither one is guarding like the yellow one though.
Marsellus is looking pretty happy (if thats possible!) in his tea stained tank, and the plants look as if they're settled.


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on March 09, 2017, 12:21:27 am
Sorry to hear about the CPD. Have you had a gander at the parameters including ph?
I am hitting my tank with 10-20% daily fresh water along with the weekly 50%, might even chuck in some cuttlefish bone as well as part of the war on ph, kh & gh all dropping rapidly. I suspect that it's something to do with the nitrification bacteria but have no idea what to do lol.

Anyway I hope that you have seen the last of this latest bout of luck and things start picking up for you.
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Post by: Calmwaters on March 09, 2017, 09:44:13 am
Oh no you really are having a bad couple of weeks for fish loss. :(
Glad the rest are all well & settling in to their new environments.
Sorry for your loss :(


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 09, 2017, 10:50:56 am
Thanks guys, it has been a mixed few weeks. Its just been my tank that has had all the upset :/
I always check the parameters immediately after a death, all spot on (0 ammonia 0 nitrite 40/80nitrate, ph 7.4).
Your problem has completely baffled me Newbie, just cant make head or tail of whats happened. Hope you get your issues sorted soon


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Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 09, 2017, 11:03:16 am
Newbie, I'd probably ditch the nitrifying bacteria source and go straight for a ammonia source but I'm not sure how that would tie in with your cycle, whether you'd need to start again or what. What is your ph from the tap after your water has sat for 24 hours? (put some fresh tap water in a cup/glass and leave it to sit for 24 hours, stirring occasionally).

Pulling the positives from your experience GL, at least it has just been the tank that's had a few upsets :)
I hope you manage to iron out the problems soon and get the tank back on track :)
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Post by: plankton on March 09, 2017, 12:06:08 pm
You can replace the CPDs with something hardier now..... ;)
What's the green microrasbora that likes hard water.....?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 09, 2017, 12:22:31 pm
Lol your asking me Ian?
That is a good point pilgrim, it has just been the  one tank *touches wood* hopefully thats the last of it for a while


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Post by: Suelo on March 09, 2017, 01:08:56 pm
Just catching up, sorry to hear you lost your last CPD, as Newbie said, I too hope things pick up for you now.

I've been looking at a micro rasbora - think it's called the emarald dwarf rasbora (http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/celestichthys-erythromicron/) - wonder if this is the one Plankton was thinking of? I thought they looked amazing, but seriously fish mentions they might not compete for food so well. I really like the look of them from the photos, I'm wondering how they might fare with my platys.

Screenshot from seriously fish website attached - hope this is allowed.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on March 09, 2017, 01:57:23 pm
Newbie, I'd probably ditch the nitrifying bacteria source and go straight for a ammonia source but I'm not sure how that would tie in with your cycle, whether you'd need to start again or what. What is your ph from the tap after your water has sat for 24 hours? (put some fresh tap water in a cup/glass and leave it to sit for 24 hours, stirring occasionally).

Pulling the positives from your experience GL, at least it has just been the tank that's had a few upsets :)
I hope you manage to iron out the problems soon and get the tank back on track :)

What do you mean pilgrim? I have read that the nitrification bacteria can drop the ph.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 09, 2017, 02:28:47 pm
Thanks Suelo, i think that might have been the one Ian meant. They're local to lake inle which is a hard water lake :) apparently most people make the mistake of rasbora=soft water with them. I really should probably look at a few of the other inle species on that note lol


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Post by: plankton on March 09, 2017, 04:27:01 pm
That's the one, emerald. :) Lovely fish.
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Post by: Feliss on March 11, 2017, 01:18:25 pm
I have 10 emerald dwarf rasbora, though I understand they've been reclassified away from rasbora to something else (forgotten).

They're really timid and love a lot of cover. Great active guys to watch quietly though and if you like small fish definitely get these. I've got 10, I wish I could go bigger I think that'd be awesome.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on March 11, 2017, 02:11:15 pm
I have 10 emerald dwarf rasbora, though I understand they've been reclassified away from rasbora to something else (forgotten).

They're really timid and love a lot of cover. Great active guys to watch quietly though and if you like small fish definitely get these. I've got 10, I wish I could go bigger I think that'd be awesome.

I think is been reclassified into the danio family
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 11, 2017, 09:58:30 pm
I might look into them, that is when i decide to add more fish again lol
Anyway a couple of pics tonight enjoy :)
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/3e5bde2fd851ad2958b6388fc79ee730.jpg)
Bubba and the yellow female
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/1e2a76dba1cfc83b1f66821010d6028f.jpg)
Bubba and a photobombing honey
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/9aafb4df8479a21754f7d2216f831fed.jpg)
The 100l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/cb2d7aa7e1ba7ff54270bc89fb6bb792.jpg)
Arnie, you might be able to see the little sword on his tail
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/2f6e8dc1beb95e371e4a7dedda939904.jpg)
I got all 8 signifers in this one!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/ef44d8bd295064b780d2d34504d779b6.jpg)
Few more of the signifers with a photobombing platy
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/756034b8829e0d2447556d829db87f5a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/6a488302571f46f9d2b47b32848f0729.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/9ac2621c7c8cf62ef943e060d98ecd87.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/39266489fbb080dc62960e5fea7c9ccf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/293e1f54e52354c936f5985798fb4ef6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/afea479948bcd8fbcd7495912f8c71f5.jpg)
Marsellus's Dwelling (54l)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170311/dc8c3750285403021259e1d5d3122db4.jpg)


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Post by: Suelo on March 11, 2017, 11:17:38 pm
All looking good - I have to say I do like the blue platys. Also, yes - can see the sword on Arnie's tail. Will it continue to grow longer as he gets older do you think?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 11, 2017, 11:52:38 pm
Thanks :)
Yeah our original blue platy was one i picked lol the two big blue ones are mum and daughter (Pearl,wagtail and Akoya, blue mickey mouse and recently named) both born here.
I'm not sure if it will continue to grow his hi fin has gotten longer at the back im sure, but the sword has got a bit bigger since i first noticed it, so we shall see :)


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Post by: kas on March 12, 2017, 09:15:22 am
Bubb is a very handsome fish. Lovely.
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Post by: plankton on March 12, 2017, 10:01:56 am
How long have you had your honeys now Iain?
You, with the "wrong" water appear to be able to keep them longer than me with the "not-so-wrong" water..... :P
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 12, 2017, 11:49:03 am
Its been about a year, if not just over a year we've had the two females and Marsellus. They're not the first honeys we've had but the others did not last at all.
I'm not saying anymore dont wanna jinx them lol


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Post by: plankton on March 12, 2017, 11:54:15 am
I've just look up me notes, I did manage to keep a females for 22 months, the others were all less than that..... :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 12, 2017, 12:28:48 pm
Something for me to aim for, so at least another 10months or so to match you ;) lol


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Post by: Calmwaters on March 12, 2017, 09:07:18 pm
Awesome shot of Bubba, all looking great.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 24, 2017, 04:34:30 pm
Ok so its been a little while so figured i should update a bit.
I have finally ran out of TNC complete, so i am now onto my EI kit. I'm just using the example recipe for the time being so i shall see how the plants go with it, and i've been thinking of looking into a more extensive testing kit to help see if i am lacking in anything for the plants. I only started dosing yesterday after the water changes (3 days over a week! *slaps wrist*), so i must remember to dose everyday with alternating bottles :)
The tanks themselves are doing fine, the 180l is looking clearer lately than it has done for a while, and i did remove a large chunk of water lettuce yesterday as you could see it was starting to pile up a bit (i did wonder if i should've sent you a load more Kev ;) )
In regards to the fish Arnie has a new brother, the plattail with the S marking on the side has turned more male over the past few weeks so he joins his older brother and the male platys in my 100l. For the first few days Arnie wouldn't leave him alone, but no malicious behaviour just following him around, think Arnies happy to have someone nearly as big as him in there lol
The Apistos in the 180l, we noticed a little while back that one of the females doesnt have any pectoral fins just stubs where they were (which is slowly becoming her name :/ ), but they havent shown any sign of regrowth but shes a "happy wee soul" as my OH put it calmly cruising about eating well and funnily enough she always manages to catch Bubba's attention and they spend a lot of time going about and displaying. The other two females have set up their territories at either end of the tank and we have has some flared gils and sparring between them (quite funny to watch), one is still constantly yellow the other did colour up to yellow a few days ago and that was when the sparring was going on. But no injuries so we're ok....for now lol
In the 100l all 8 signifers are doing well, flaring displaying and generally darting around. And earlier on i did see a female shimmying up against the moss ball in the right hand corner with a male shimmying next to her with his fins up. Breeding behaviour possibly?! Either way i'm not expecting anything from it, possibly down to the slightly bigger change yesterday, because i'm a little bit behind with the routine.
And the we come to Marsellus who's still the same angry bugger he always has been, but his tank is looking very tannin stained but hes doing fine :)
If you got through all that well done, i'll post up some on the next post as a reward (bit rich to call my pics a reward haha)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 24, 2017, 04:47:07 pm
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/c7bc85ee9c4ed7b5a370515b175cf5db.jpg)
Group shot
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/6f86223f814e7c10236b07dd6caec874.jpg)
Bubba, "stubbs" and one of the honeys
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/af288228e79d7079df4b32f9662a2774.jpg)
The yellow female
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/59d4e34b34b1ab027a155bf740e2783b.jpg)
Our blue and orange platy :)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/93ac1db8dacc5c81449fa9aeea1839d1.jpg)
Another group shot
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/cbcf577b67adeb0dfcd906a990082b02.jpg)
The blue baby that survived
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/cbe5aa03ecefa22fbe0a9a3e7559ecdb.jpg)
I impressed myself with this photo
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/e4927acd1199245d158a9829e9748620.jpg)
Blue and orange and a surviving plattail (apologies for the trail)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/b62c720c41f8ffd405d7465bc3c3a4de.jpg)
Bubba and the other female who coloured up the other day
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/6ebe4d18cfb89f55dcde5644c3cc9ea2.jpg)




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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 24, 2017, 04:50:37 pm
The 100l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/34a0ef622bdf15cce22e604f566982d8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/e173f24e4749da8638f8fc2f44c02f1f.jpg)
Arnie's new brother
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/b44bda8e04d7e72879c52a59ea1777d0.jpg)
Group shots
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/cdeb0a79949e6c2e1d7437fcfc39152d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/4a5083faf9b4964a75c012a08e96a179.jpg)
Signifer male
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/a7483762f947a89751d858e6ecc961d5.jpg)
Signifer males displaying! (Not the best but i dont know how i caught it!)
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Signifer group
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/59020e5ad354ab31f2c1f5ec4120243e.jpg)

And....Marsellus :)
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Post by: kas on March 24, 2017, 07:53:35 pm
Great update. Thank you. For the most part the tanks are doing great.

With the EI Ferts if I were you I'd start with 1/2 dosing the recommended amount and see how you go. Your tanks aren't quite "Hi-Tech" and in theory your plants won't grow as quickly therefore won't need as many nutrients. Too much of an excess of Ferts could lead to an algae problem.
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Post by: Suelo on March 24, 2017, 08:22:29 pm
Great update & glad to see all doing well. I love the colour variations in your platys, and the Apistos seem so full of character.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 24, 2017, 09:49:01 pm
Thanks Kas i was hoping you would pop up with regards to the EI dosing :) as you say my tanks aren't high tech, just lights water and ferts lol so i shall try your method first and see how we go, i had read the use of EI is much more beneficial with a co2/hi-tech setup (like most things planted lol).
Thanks Suelo, the variations come from the original 3 (somehow) through the generations, my fave so far is the blue and orange :) The only store bought livebearer we have left is Monica :)


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Post by: plankton on March 25, 2017, 01:31:56 pm
Looking good Iain. :)
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Post by: Calmwaters on March 26, 2017, 02:54:38 am
All looking good. Hope the El ferts work well for you.


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Post by: squirt on March 30, 2017, 11:17:34 pm
All looking good. Marsellus is gorgeous!

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 30, 2017, 11:37:35 pm
Thanks all :)
I'll keep you posted on the ferts.
As for Marsellus hes pretty, but a douche so on his own lol


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 31, 2017, 03:53:03 pm
Ok so minor update, was doing my water changes today, having a bit of a rave to myself (90s dance etc playlist lol), anyway cleaning around the moss ball in the bottom right of my 100l when i knock it and spot this:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/9d1eac4c7eeb825cb34b0d7d06e39e3f.jpg)

There are a couple more but not many, but i think someones been busy in my tank...


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Post by: Suelo on March 31, 2017, 04:12:37 pm
Oooh - exciting - any ideas whose they are?

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 31, 2017, 05:48:26 pm
I think the rainbows, i'd be well impressed if Arnie or any of the boys laid eggs lol
I think they've already become a meal anyway, i didnt move them while doing the changes. But its definitely something to look out for, especially as i wasnt expecting it. If i find any more i might attempt to set up the small tank and see if i can get them to hatch.


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Post by: Calmwaters on March 31, 2017, 06:00:41 pm
Oooh interesting GL's breeding fishes are off again :D



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Post by: plankton on April 01, 2017, 10:04:56 am
Interesting :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 01, 2017, 12:00:59 pm
It is! Something i never found from my CPD but as i said to my OH we didn't have as big a group, or at least not for long.
CW shes also shaking her head at having those kind of numbers again lol (although i dont think it will be a problem)
But i will be keeping an eye out for anymore :)


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Post by: kas on April 04, 2017, 10:08:01 am
That's exciting. Let's hope you find more in the future.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 08, 2017, 11:43:52 pm
Sad note for this evening, we've lost one of our female apistos :(
Seen her out feeding 2 nights ago, found her hiding in a hole in the big bit of wood yesterday all ok. Hadn't seen her this evening when i got home, me and my OH spent a while looking for her, eventually had to move the wood (great fun!) and initially thought i'd caught her under the wood when i moved it, but on a second look she was rigid and colourless so she must've gone during the day :(
Couldn't see any marks, he fins were all intact, gils not damaged so i am clueless what has happened unless she got in a rough scrap with the yellow female.
Everyone else is ok and tank tests ok.
I also moved Marsellus's tank around again, we had a power cut last weekend and it stopped his filter, and because i dont always use my brain the one bit of wood has leaned up against it. So i've swapped it around to stop it. I'll post some pics tomorrow or something.


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Post by: Suelo on April 09, 2017, 12:05:59 am
Sorry to hear about your apisto. It must have just been one of those things, but upsetting all the same  :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 09, 2017, 12:39:14 am
Thanks
we'll be on intense tank watch now keeping an eye on everyone else. My OH has been sat by her tank every evening for the past week watching everyone in her tank.


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Post by: plankton on April 09, 2017, 11:51:07 am
Sorry to hear about the apisto :(
Maybe, it's a hangover from the power loss?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 09, 2017, 03:18:39 pm
Possibly, took a week to kick in if it was. But as we've said before filter/bacteria issues can happen in 20mins or 20hours, its not something i had thought of :/ (my brain is not working this weekend, probably because im working lol)


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Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 09, 2017, 07:52:05 pm
Oh my! Sorry to hear of your loss! :(

A mystery death, have you figured out any other more surefire reasoning that it could be? :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 09, 2017, 08:32:48 pm
No nothing definitive unfortunately, only just in from work so im going to watch for a while now and see if i can notice anything, the joys of doing 12hour shifts!


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Post by: kas on April 10, 2017, 10:33:59 am
Really sorry to hear about the Apisto. As you know I've had my share of heartache with dwarf cichlids. It sounds like something internal happened, some sort of infection perhaps? This sounds similar to the issue I had  with my A.Panduro,  it came totally out of the blue, one day fine and the next gone.....

Do you use almond leaves? I think they are very helpful when you keep apistos. They do stain the water though, which I quite like.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 10, 2017, 02:50:02 pm
Thanks Kas, i did think of you and your panduro when we found her.
i dont use almond leaves, i'll look into it. It only been a short time since most of the tannins from the wood has mostly disappeared. Where do you get yours from?
I'm still looking at our yellow female, as my main suspect,only because we have seen them have a couple of spats and flared gils, although there was no marks or damage i could see.


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Post by: kas on April 10, 2017, 06:54:01 pm
I get them from Ebay and just buy from whoever has the best deal at the time.
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Post by: Calmwaters on April 10, 2017, 09:11:25 pm
Ah I am sorry to hear of your loss, so frustrating when you don't know why either.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 20, 2017, 07:54:16 pm
Ah we figured i should update this before we go away on the weekend.
The tanks have been ticking over quite nicely as of late(since the female apisto). Everyone in the 180l is doing well, we might have a blue male platy (late turner again) which i think is our first that we might keep.
Arnie and his brother can't decide who the bigger plattail is but they also spend loads of time together happily, think Arnies just happy having someone close to his size around. I havent found anymore eggs either despite the male signifers displaying like madmen (or fish) throughout the days. I do love the little guys though.
Marsellus is alright although im unamused with him atm, after doing the changes earlier he decided to wedge himself behind the filter when i was cleaning the glass after i'd dried everything and tidied! And while trying to get him out he acted like a total muppet going anywhere but out from the back of the filter! I'm impressed he got in there, but thats as far as that goes! Lol
Anyway heres some of my traditional dodgy iphone pics. Enjoy :)

The 180l:
Full tank
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/f885da5ec4491933636b73ed9e7379c6.jpg)
Half and half
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/19405cd16920b345c1bb0a93b04edc2c.jpg)
Pearl and Gina sticking her nose in (top left)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/f50e6fb13c2a89811621ab2de89b6319.jpg)
Bubba, dolphie's granddaughter and Akoya (pearls daughters) think they seen me lol
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/291351031c4d591feb973d99ea63e63c.jpg)
Akoya, Gina and a survivor i think
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/a0927c7d8f481f49072b668a7ed3c7cc.jpg)
Bubba and Stubbs
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/b30dd217bceebd5ce14ae3a53cf75e2a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/8dec0443b1870480d5b33d9259ea835c.jpg)
The yellow female
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/ee1c949473f60f67207defacfb219443.jpg)
Mum and daughters (Pearl bottom centre, Akoya (above pearl), half and half, dolphie's legacy and a survivor)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/3503ae6c51338960414e08b80151b3e0.jpg)
The honeys above...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/a44cc9e5515404b08e1c53bd53a27997.jpg)
And below...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/cea95d1c590daf9bfc5afd80707e2329.jpg)
With Stubbs
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/877e016308773eba3b7de6a24c0cbce8.jpg)
Monica exercising in the filter flow
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/d8a72a4f929259bcab66589f9ed73643.jpg)



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 20, 2017, 07:59:18 pm
The 100l:
Full tank
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/f1a32501eb4ebf58b2bedefe7a7746ac.jpg)
Platy trio and male signifer (remaining sunset male, tiny tim (bent spine since birth) and another survivor)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/fc06319aaeab49eb5aa46b803f9cc572.jpg)
Arnie
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/da8be375c15efe7a6e5db367ff049e9c.jpg)
Signifer group
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/6d413ffbaba097029606ca56df0ba6c9.jpg)
Arnie and his brother
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/9b1cce33700507487363689d1af21d69.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/1a2510357cc5de5c4153549542358e3e.jpg)
Arnie and the trio
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/8273e5d61fce3bee1ddb6498704f9847.jpg)
Mixed group in the corner
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/d01fd1f6186c3a161e7ca528efe5c4c3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/407f966044f09cd25f0131339f5799e4.jpg)

Marsellus's tank (54l):
Since the move
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/9dfea47aadf3fef275b0c70d57ab34b0.jpg)

Marsellus...
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Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 08:41:46 pm
Some very, very nice fish there GL! Very well taken care of, that's obvious! :)

I hope you're proud of those tanks bud! I think you should be, if not ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 20, 2017, 09:32:13 pm
Thanks Pilgrim :) i do try lol
I drive my OH up the wall with it sometimes, but then she'd be the first one to tell me off if i'm wasn't on top of it lmao


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Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 09:49:19 pm
...but then she'd be the first one to tell me off if i'm wasn't on top of it lmao ...

You sure of that?!  *grin* ;) roflmao roflmao
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 20, 2017, 09:57:55 pm
Pretty sure!
She starts telling me off if she notices a leaf browning or a spot of algae on the front i missed, not that she helps me with it! Lmao


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Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 10:00:45 pm
Hahaha fair enough  *grin*

I was referring to the other members on here ;) haha
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Post by: Calmwaters on April 20, 2017, 10:19:00 pm
I will echo Pilgrim you really do have some great looking fish & the work you put into them & your tanks is obvious.
Marsellus being his mischievous self then hey.
Glad all is well at the mo, have great week away.

Clicked the thanks on your post Pilgrim whilst scrolling, woops :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 20, 2017, 10:46:32 pm
Thanks CW :)
Marsellus is as he usually is now, just a bigger PITA today lol
We'll do our best while were away, its been a little while :)


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Post by: kas on April 21, 2017, 09:35:05 am
Very nice, and great to see the tanks. Hope you enjoy your holiday. The plants and fish will be absolutely fine I'm sure.
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Post by: plankton on April 22, 2017, 09:49:02 am
Very nice Iain, have a good break :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 06, 2017, 10:26:06 pm
So after the holiday, a bit of an update.
All the fish are ok and so are all the plants. No ferts dosed since before i went away...which is pretty interesting as its made me consider how much fert wise i need to dose, so some fun calculation to be done.
Discovered our yellow female apisto has made a cave for herself, not anywhere we can see into it mind!
She has dug out the gravel behind and under the glitter rock (left corner by the filter), also Bubba seems to be guarding the same area or corner, although i have no idea how he'd get in the cave...
The signifers are doing well looking very yellowy lately, i also might have identified a potential location identity for them, Kev inspired me for this with his rainbow identification. Anyway they look to have a similar body shape to Lake Macquarie signifers which puts them right at the Southern Australia from New South Wales ;)
Heres a couple of pics of the tanks and some iffy ones i attempted of the cave, you can see the depth of it a bit in the pic through the roots of the java fern (centre of pic next to the airstone ), you can also see the pile of gravel the yellow female has shifted. I'll get some decent pics of everyone in the next few days or so.
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170506/958f7b544d2eef6b8d0d6c5d24d81861.jpg)
The apisto cave pics
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170506/4875e10603bc23e457e59408d828d4f4.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170506/5b97adb9707a7795d988ee5e1a66d4d8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170506/a70690dcff6d69d7570f0888568e89a5.jpg)
The 100l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170506/d6f83e6098f44041b4d5b802c7a43b69.jpg)
Marsellus's tank:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170506/06a99a656c835c3aef86b93bf2dd4b9a.jpg)


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Post by: Suelo on May 06, 2017, 10:50:27 pm
Good to hear that they are all ok. It's interesting about your signifers - I guess given enough time that's how different species evolve. And I wonder if your apistos have little cockatoos on the way...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 06, 2017, 11:13:25 pm
Yeah most fish will have regional differences in body shape or markings and i found a paper written about them that showed the different body shapes between the P. signifer found at different "longitudes and latitudes". It may be completely irrelevant to mine but it was interesting to see if i could identify them :)
The yellow female certainly seems to have a plan! It's just whether she can catch Bubba's interest and get him in there!


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Post by: plankton on May 07, 2017, 10:07:09 am
Typical fish to ignore whatever you do for them, and rearrange for themselves...... *rolleyes* *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 07, 2017, 10:39:38 pm
Spot the baby!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170507/01c1234a47651ea600fa71d924e98098.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170507/b9c3c07f92799086ddbbdb9d0934b705.jpg)


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Post by: Pilgrim89 on May 07, 2017, 10:50:30 pm
See attached image for my guess as to where the baby is  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 07, 2017, 10:58:29 pm
Spot on ;)
theres been a few!
So now we know what shes been upto! Bubba and mum have been guarding the corner and chasing everyone away, just have to see how they get on now.
They are so tiny i had to look a few times to make sure we were seeing what we thought we were seeing lol

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Post by: Suelo on May 07, 2017, 10:59:48 pm
Ooh! Babies! How exciting!  *applause*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 07, 2017, 11:05:41 pm
You called it Suelo ;)


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Post by: Suelo on May 07, 2017, 11:19:21 pm
Parents look very protective. They're going to be fascinating to watch. You & your OH will be glued to the tanks more than ever now!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 07, 2017, 11:30:23 pm
Yeah i keep popping back and forth, my OH keeps saying "leave them be for a bit because the other fish follow you!"
She also made the comment "we're now multiple species breeders" lol


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 08, 2017, 11:29:59 am
Well they're out and about this morning. The little ones all herding around mum, and shes doing quite a good job watching them and herding them, Bubba is floating around the top/middle by the big wood just guarding the general area. Also its very cute when she goes off and comes back and they all come up to her :) i know what i'm going to be doing most of the day ;)
Heres a lil video, hope it works:
https://instagram.com/p/BT09TyBjcAn/



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Post by: Suelo on May 08, 2017, 12:32:45 pm
That is so fascinating. I wouldn't be able to move from the tank! It looks as though she is taking a fry into her mouth & then shooting it out again - are my eyes playing tricks on me?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 08, 2017, 12:53:38 pm
No you are correct, keeping them in check. I thought she ate one the first time i seen it until she swam down and spat them back out amongst the others. I think shes just making sure they dont wander too far from her.


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Post by: plankton on May 08, 2017, 03:06:19 pm
They are very good parents, especially for first-timers!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 08, 2017, 03:22:47 pm
Yeah i thought that Ian, i did say to my OH theres so many things they can get wrong first time, but they do seem to be doing well so far :)
The yellow female obviously had a plan from the start as she took over that corner from the moment we put them in :)


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Post by: Calmwaters on May 08, 2017, 04:02:37 pm
Ace!! Congratulations. Wow there is definitely something in your water lol. You & the new parents are doing a great job!
Glad you had a good break away & that all was well on your return.



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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on May 08, 2017, 06:06:33 pm
Congrats pal.
 thumbsup
I  would defiantly be  interested in buying  a few once they are old enough to move and I have some more tanks set up.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 08, 2017, 06:13:29 pm
Thanks guys
It wasn't all quite well when we got back CW, Ari our one cat had been missing for 2 days, turned up in the floorboards!
I'm sure we'll be looking for homes for them if we/the parents get that far. The babies are so tiny atm its hard to believe they're fish lol i'll keep you posted :)


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Post by: Calmwaters on May 08, 2017, 10:10:57 pm
Oh eck glad you found Ari.


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Post by: kas on May 10, 2017, 09:44:17 am
Just caught up on the log. Delighted to hear your news. Good luck with the fry!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 10, 2017, 12:31:19 pm
Thanks Kas :)
Seen some interesting behaviour from Bubba this morning.
Watching our yellow female herding and guarding the fry, she does tolerate Bubba close to her and the fry, occasionally tail slaps him to send him off if she doesn't want him too near.
However sat watching this morning and they were both close to each other and the female went and chased off one of the platys or honeys, leaving Bubba with the babies. It was this point i seen him follow one and eat it....or so i thought, he actually turned round and dropped the baby next to a few of the others and then went off guarding a few seconds after mum came back.
To say i was impressed was an understatement!
Anyone else ever heard of a male guarding/herding the young in such a way?
They do seem to be doing a really good job so far, and the territory they guard is anywhere left of the large bit of wood, seems pretty much perfect as they seem to have a good system going for keeping the others at bay.


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Post by: Vale! on May 10, 2017, 12:41:49 pm
Yes!

I have a video of some remarkable Apisto (borelli) behaviour involving a male and a harem of three females. I'm surprised you haven't seen it actually, because I mention it at the slightest opportunity!

I'll see if I can do you a link when I'm back on my PC in a while.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 10, 2017, 12:48:30 pm
Ace thanks Vale! :) I look forward to seeing it


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Post by: Vale! on May 10, 2017, 01:29:03 pm
Here it is.  [Apologies to anyone who's seeing this linked for the umpteenth time! ]




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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 10, 2017, 05:30:19 pm
Interesting! Thanks for that Vale! Cant say I've noticed him chase her off but there is only one lot of fry, i think Stubbs (the other female) is feeling a bit left out i think lol
But they do have parenting down to a fine art :)


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Post by: squirt on May 10, 2017, 06:00:19 pm
Congrats on your babies and glad you found your kitty  thumbsup
Title: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 17, 2017, 04:44:30 pm
Ok so its been a week and a half(ish) since i last updated.
Aside from a bit of trimming of some leaves and me still experimenting with how much ferts i need for the plants everything is doing well.
The fish in the 180l are all quite happy even if they haven't worked out not to go into Bubba and the yellow females (think we need a name for her) "corner". I say corner loosely as they have taken up about 1ft square on the left side of the tank (about as far as the curve on the left side of the wood if that makes sense). But for all the chasing out of the area no one has sustained any injury, although i think one of the honeys is pushing her luck sometimes...
There still seems to be a good number of fry and some have grown quite well, starting to look like little apistos instead of a pair of eyes with a tail lol
Stubbs still seems quite happy, and Bubba has been over to see her on the opposite side of the tank from time to time. She seems to have set up camp behind the wood around the other air stone. But she hasn't shown off her breeding colours.
The platys and plattail survivor that we kept have grown quite well, the plattail seems to push her luck with the apistos as well and Bubba has a passion for keeping her away lol
Anyway some up to date pics of the 180l and a video of the mum and the babies.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/96716dcf3d4469ce913a754e20424461.jpg)
Bubba and mum guarding
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/6ea77f963caeee7ed7865f634b000fcb.jpg)
Playing in the java ferns
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/74cca369edca01edb755266833f39926.jpg)
Honey just chilling
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/eab6a66f690186a9aea328c077a9cbe6.jpg)
Monica "exercising" in the filter flow
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/071a97568f593de59d512a419719b7ac.jpg)
Stubbs (looking a little round...)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/70e74801c6d624a6ae3c9e796008ab86.jpg)
Plattail (front) Akoya (big blue) Gina (orange) and a survivor
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/d87a387f81649b632b43073b9ec441af.jpg)
Video of mum and fry hopefully
https://youtu.be/zEkG7eTbx5k

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Post by: Siege on May 17, 2017, 04:52:35 pm
Good pictures.

You've got loads of floating plants there!!

How are you doing your ei ferts. I've yet to attempt to understand them.

S.

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 17, 2017, 05:04:28 pm
Right the 100l. Not too much has been going on in the 100l. Arnie's brother seems to hide away a bit, but when hes out he eats, chases Arnie off and i think he's actually slightly bigger than Arnie.
The signifers have definitely grown since we got them, the males fins seem to have grown and seem have some filamentous ends. I did try catching them displaying but they were having none of it so theres a short vid of them zipping about. Haven't seen any more eggs from them though.
The two male survivor platys seem pretty happy hanging around with the big male. Even the one with the crooked spine has grown quite well and is bigger than i though he was going to get.
And Marsellus is well....Marsellus, hes the same as ever lol the plants in his tank seem to be doing well, even some of the small ones and clippings I've added.
Anyway heres some pics and hopefully a vid of the signifers.
 (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/b9d7c5d8b1f554ef5dc10b2c25969264.jpg)
Triple trouble! (The silver/orange one is the crooked one)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/7951b28c15fde6c43e7bb913c7b07e11.jpg)
Arnie...showing off
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/5a93b572f06ba88e728b9e597b770c61.jpg)
Marsellus's tank
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/a2123fb789ca5cfa0286acc0448d2661.jpg)
Marsellus (looking happy?..possibly?)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170517/38b21ceab7871461ef12947efe6cbafb.jpg)
Video of signifers
https://youtu.be/7h8WH-g1JNk


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 17, 2017, 05:12:14 pm
I'm winging it with the ferts if i'm honest Siege lol
I've used the standard recipe for my mixes, i was half dosing each daily, but after the holiday i found my nitrate was still around 20+ ppm when we got back (only test i have atm). So since the holiday i am dosing once weekly to see how it goes from here. The EI mix is a lot more concentrated in the elements than the TNC complete according to what should be in it once mixed.
The floating plants are water lettuce i got off Newbie after he had some platys off me (think theres a bit of duck weed as well).
I remove handfuls on a weekly basis lol


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Post by: Siege on May 17, 2017, 05:16:21 pm
I'll stick with the tnc complete for now I think. Don't want to run before I can walk!

The floating plants do spread  *grin*

Your piece of wood is massive!

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 17, 2017, 05:21:18 pm
Lol yeah we thought that when we picked it up courtesy of AG when we were there last September-ish, only cost £20 which why as soon as i seen that i walked off with it lol


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Post by: squirt on May 17, 2017, 05:39:40 pm
Looking good GL.  Is that frogbit on top?

Everyone seems to has great success with frogbit, except me. My plants are doing great but my frogbit just ended up with short roots and almost disappeared. I've moved it into my nano tanks now to see if it will pick up again. Any idea why mine failed?
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 17, 2017, 06:26:07 pm
Thanks Squirt :) its dwarf water lettuce. It started as a handful lol
I have no idea why it might have failed, although the 180l and 54l (Marsellus's tank) seem to grow it better than the 100l, might be the bulb thinking about it. The 180l had a new lightning unit just after we got it and the 54l was bought new. But the plants have never had any issue.


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Siege on May 17, 2017, 06:41:59 pm
My frogbit grows like mad the more ferts I put in.

Never had any luck with the slightly furry succulent floating plant, can't remember its name, is that water lettuce? I was told it was the glass tank covers creating condensation making the top of the plant wet.

Edit. It savinia, that is slightly furry!

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Post by: plankton on May 18, 2017, 11:45:26 am
All very nice! *grin*
The rainbows look very good. :)
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Post by: kas on May 18, 2017, 12:34:07 pm
Your green fingers are doing well! thumbsup
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Post by: Calmwaters on May 18, 2017, 08:02:17 pm
All looking good.
The video of the Apisto fry is great, they look to be doing really well.
The signifier video made me chuckle when one seemed to be swimming one way then Arnie popped up & it was like erm no I will be going this way now.
& I do think that qualifies as a smile from Marsellus lol



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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 18, 2017, 08:18:07 pm
Thanks guys :)
The greenery is down to help from you and a few others her Kas, cant thank all of you enough :)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that CW, it made me laugh when i first watched it back. He doesn't bother them but i think they can see hes about 4x the size of them lol


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Calmwaters on May 18, 2017, 08:30:12 pm
Lol just showing them who's boss


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Title: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 18, 2017, 08:35:36 pm
Caught them!
A couple pf quick videos of the signifer males displaying and sparring with each other :)

https://youtu.be/IZBvxpklRlk

Theres a longer spat in this one, flared fins and speed!

https://youtu.be/9GJ8G02ys5I


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 18, 2017, 08:37:23 pm
Lol hes definitely the boss in the 100l CW


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Pilgrim89 on May 18, 2017, 08:51:48 pm
I've seen them before in this log but never really commented on them... Those Signifers are beautiful fish :) ... They look delicate though (not that that's a bad thing)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 18, 2017, 09:13:30 pm
Thanks Pilgrim, they were a completely new one on me when i got them (aside from my researching) and i thought the same. But they seem quite hardy, i've seen the platys caught up and get out of the way quickly when they're sparring, Arnie (as you may have seen) doesn't care lol


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Post by: Suelo on May 18, 2017, 11:20:33 pm
All looking great GL, you have some really interesting fish.
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Post by: plankton on May 19, 2017, 09:31:44 am
They are as fast as rainbows...... ;)
Title: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 24, 2017, 11:16:39 pm
Anyone up for another game of spot the baby?
Have fun, post your thoughts, ill help in the sense theres 2 in the first pic and 1 in the others
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170524/6883ee5f90b6bd5ac460f9dc7f7debb7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170524/3f083d051a9176314e9b32a255e12fc5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170524/e5c0ded5ba054da28d207a4c3aa9b235.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170524/b84df242f0cdf64a2e10aa85898b4788.jpg)


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Post by: Suelo on May 24, 2017, 11:26:19 pm
You have been breeding chameleons, not cockatoos! It's like one of those magic eye pictures trying to find them.

Think I have found them all. No 3 was the hardest though.

They are very cute!
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Post by: Calmwaters on May 25, 2017, 08:35:39 am
Wow they are certainly good at blending in.
Right here's my guesses, picture 1 both middle of pic, pic 2 centre left & then it gets really hard I will get back to you lol. ;)


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Post by: Feliss on May 25, 2017, 09:08:17 am
hehe chameleons!
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Post by: plankton on May 25, 2017, 11:42:12 am
Good job I already wear glasses! *grin*
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 06, 2017, 10:17:27 pm
Ok so its been a week or so since i updated the log. Where to start...
We lost our one female honey today (just short of 16months), looked as if she'd had a swim bladder or constipation issue a few days ago, so i set up the qt and put her in. After a starve day, and feeding her some greens (which she didn't seem to eat) and also didn't seem to pass anything. I'm a bit annoyed with myself as after the first couple of days she deteriorated, and after hunting for my clove oil all i've found is my receipt for it so looks like I'll have to get more.
This may be a blessing in disguise...read on...
After about a month (5 weeks) free swimming, our yellow mum seems to have lost interest in the fry, i wonder if the constant attempts by the honeys and platys have put her off. We have found them spread out across the tank, in various areas but have only seen the odd one maybe two a day. Also after seeing mum chase one of the fry earlier we think she might be back in breeding mode and is trying to shoo the fry away. So after cleaning out the qt tank i set about setting it up for any remaining fry. I took one of the moss balls from the 180l along with some gravel and a baby java fern.
To my surprise i found around 10+ fry so they are all now housed safely in our little tank. Now come the fun of potentially setting up a grow out tank or moving inhabitants around.
Saying that we have moved Stubbs (our other female apisto) to the 100l as yellow mum seemed to go after her even if she wasnt close. She did have a small knick out of her fin as does our other honey, probably getting too close to the apistos territory again.
In the 100l Arnie's brother has come out of hiding a bit more lately and seems to be challenging him on occasion for whos more dominant. Weirdly i think hes bigger than Arnie! But theres been no injuries its mostly the occasional short chase.
Otherwise everything has been relatively calm, the plants need a bit of a tidy and i'm still experimenting a little with the ferts and everything needs a good tidy up, feels like i've been slacking a bit lately :/
I'll get some pics for you all shortly feels like this has taken an eternity to type, hope it doesn't feel like an eternity to read....and thank you if you have made it through :)


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Post by: Suelo on June 06, 2017, 11:46:22 pm
Sorry to hear you lost your honey. It's so difficult when they are unwell to decide what to do, as we always want to give them every chance to improve and get better.

It's good that your apistos have managed to rear 10 fry on their first go. I didn't realise that they would look after them for so long. Hopefully Stubbs will be happy in her new tank too, with Arnie & his bro.

Looking forward to seeing pics
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 07, 2017, 12:08:11 am
Pics as promised...
The 180l:
Full tank:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/3f7814b35cf6bee6d1cbc43f30304668.jpg)
Bit of a group shot
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Our remaining honey and just about everyone
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Bubba looking yellow, mum seems to be hiding in her cave...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/8601073fd0559d1cc18ac079b5ee5ae3.jpg)
Blurry shot :/
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Platys
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Our remaining honey
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 07, 2017, 12:34:00 am
The 100l:
Full tank:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/1c0e460cb4bf7e87f6e7cf3e4a96acc4.jpg)
Arnie's brother
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/994f01be8d2bf8d47805d5fc4a50a91d.jpg)
Triple trouble
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/d3ebab18ea048283c6864a44cf2b3383.jpg)
Stubbs :)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/a5a74bad4b5e5f05dfa2e8cdc31f2355.jpg)
Rainbows
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/f37495742f41bf28ba56bda61f027ee2.jpg)
Marsellus's tank:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/3a572d3ed1118058494a25354f54fec4.jpg)
Marsellus
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/ecfc2efbe4f4876abe4af18974628948.jpg)
Apisto fry tank
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/e53c13a2f8e67c6e458f9e11dbdddc34.jpg)
Baby apisto :)
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Post by: plankton on June 07, 2017, 09:50:03 am
Sorry about the honey :(
Good news about the fry though, done well first go. :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 07, 2017, 11:49:01 am
Thanks guys :)
Yeah i didnt think they did badly, just see if i can bring these little guys and girls up now :) might be calling for another grow out tank ;)
It is a shame about the honey but its like we've said we shouldn't really have them, so if they fall ill I'm fighting an uphill battle before i even get started :/


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on June 07, 2017, 04:51:07 pm
Great news about the fry, bummer on the honey.
I may even be able to swap you a tank for a fry or 2 next month if you are interested?
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Post by: Drunken horse on June 07, 2017, 05:37:10 pm
Sorry about the Honey.   Once they stop surfacing I think they are pretty much done for.  Not getting all the oxygen they need is clesrly not going to do them any good.


I'll intrested to see how the baby apistos go.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 07, 2017, 06:00:56 pm
Thanks guys.
We're (my OH) has said about getting another tank for them but i don't know where we would put it. Our ultimate aim is to get a massive one (discovered i can fit a 6-6.5ft in the space of the 180l and 100l its just a bit short of 7ft) and chuck everyone in it, but that might be a little while off yet.
I'll keep you posted on the fry. And i agree DH i was hoping it would pass but after a couple of days i didnt hold much hope after, hence my frustration about not being able to find my clove oil. Got some more today anyway to sit on standby.


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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on June 07, 2017, 06:19:49 pm
A big tank is always going to be a great thing to have but I think multiple tanks would be more fun. You could probably fit in 4-5 tanks in that space if placed sideways.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 07, 2017, 07:11:28 pm
Fun is one way of putting it haha
if i put them sideways I wouldn't see anyone, plus i can imagine my OH's reaction to 5 tanks! lmao


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Post by: kas on June 07, 2017, 09:17:07 pm
Sorry to hear about the honey. I like the sound of the big tank. Always nice to a have a project for the future to look forward to.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on June 07, 2017, 09:40:37 pm
Fun is one way of putting it haha
if i put them sideways I wouldn't see anyone, plus i can imagine my OH's reaction to 5 tanks! lmao


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You would be surprised how much you will see. 5 tanks means 5 projects and also 5x the fun  *grin*

Check out some fish room  tour videos to see sideways tanks in action.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 09, 2017, 04:42:00 pm
I have good friends :)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/754a0b1db674e409e42e0152fba615dc.jpg)


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Post by: Suelo on June 09, 2017, 06:20:41 pm
Ooh - has he brought you a new tank?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 09, 2017, 07:21:41 pm
Given me a new tank, well been used once :)
It was his aunts, she gave it to him and he intended setting it up but has never got round to it and its just taking up space, essential when you have a 2 year old running round. So his OH was gunna chuck it and he said "let me speak to Iain" :D
So new grow out tank for the apistos for free :)


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Post by: plankton on June 10, 2017, 10:11:22 am
So new grow out tank for the apistos for free :)

Yeah. yeah for how long..............????????? *laugh*
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Post by: kas on June 10, 2017, 12:26:42 pm
What a nice friend you have! Always a bonus when a persons rubbish can be put to good use by someone else. Up cycling is the name of the game these days.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 10, 2017, 12:44:53 pm
As long as we "need" it Ian ;)
Too true Kas :) he couldnt have asked at a better time as my OH had been looking around for a tank around the same size to grow the apistos out in. Just got to find a stand or cabinet for it now lol


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Post by: Squidman on June 10, 2017, 03:26:50 pm
As long as we "need" it Ian ;)
Too true Kas :) he couldnt have asked at a better time as my OH had been looking around for a tank around the same size to grow the apistos out in. Just got to find a stand or cabinet for it now lol


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How do you get time to go raiding iain with all those tanks to look after? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170610/c06975b3e923389bf00255f09f9d1a9c.jpg)

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 10, 2017, 04:25:53 pm
Lol Chris, after the maintenance they pretty much look after themselves, just fert dosing and feeding to remember after that :)
The fry will be a bit more fun again with regards to more changes and now i have the new tank to set up.
Plus you've seen my attacks they don't last that long lmao


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Post by: Siege on June 10, 2017, 04:30:39 pm
Another tank GL *grin*

Where you gonna put it?
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Post by: Squidman on June 10, 2017, 04:40:12 pm
Lol Chris, after the maintenance they pretty much look after themselves, just fert dosing and feeding to remember after that :)
The fry will be a bit more fun again with regards to more changes and now i have the new tank to set up.
Plus you've seen my attacks they don't last that long lmao


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 10, 2017, 05:53:31 pm
No idea Siege, hopefully can squeeze it in next to Marsellus although this one is slightly bigger...
We shall see, still got to work it all out lol


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Post by: MattHunt on June 10, 2017, 10:47:54 pm
Was the cat included?

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 10, 2017, 11:55:44 pm
Lmao nah thats Bailey laying claim to the box before Ari (our other cat) gets there, both were here before we had fish but they love a box haha


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 11, 2017, 08:16:56 pm
After doing the changes today and general tidying, I managed to count the baby apistos. Pretty sure we do have 10, and they are all eating and exploring the little tank quite happily. Just have to clean and set up the grow out tank at some point this week hopefully.
Although we may have other plans we will have to see :)


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Post by: Briganti on June 11, 2017, 08:48:01 pm
Haha! One of my cats loves a good box. Great news about the apistos, they make pretty good parents.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 11, 2017, 09:08:28 pm
Lol gotta love the cats!
The apistos have done well for the first time, just a shame they seemed to lose interest after 5/6 weeks. I do wonder if it was because a few didnt make it. I'm guessing they must've had around 20+ to start with but its hard to say because of where mum decided to dig out a cave and trying to count them was nigh on impossible lol
But the little ones were scattered across the tank when i took them out to put them in the little tank.


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Post by: Briganti on June 11, 2017, 09:14:06 pm
Yeah, they normally keep a pretty tight reign on them. Mind it can't be easy to corral so many unruly kids. A bit like hurding cats i imagin.  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 11, 2017, 09:24:24 pm
Lmao yeah i imagine so!
plus having 7/8 platys and 2 honeys constantly pestering them it must've been hard work. It was fascinating to watch though, especially as they became more bold moving them further out around the tank. And also discovering dad herds like mum does, although its funny watching a fry swim around in his big mouth and him trying to get them in position to spit them back out lol


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Post by: Briganti on June 11, 2017, 09:29:16 pm
Haha! Yeah, the platys would have been right pests. The dads are very good at it.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 11, 2017, 09:31:55 pm
Yeah they are, there was a few times mum left Bubba in charge while she went off on a chasing mission. It really was fascinating :)


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Post by: Briganti on June 11, 2017, 09:35:05 pm
They really are great to watch, who needs a tv (well apart from GoT of course)?  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 11, 2017, 10:27:39 pm
But of course :) lol
My OH watches the chase and i answer questions while watching the fish lol


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Post by: Briganti on June 11, 2017, 10:37:26 pm
Mine watches soaps, so I am more than happy to stick to watching the tanks.  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 11, 2017, 11:33:10 pm
Lol my OH used to watch eastenders but she gave up on that years ago thankfully. But i dont blame you watching the tanks over them!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 13, 2017, 11:55:06 pm
A couple of photos of the baby apistos just after feeding time tonight :)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/5b8d9f58ca8bb54cee749c0e648314d2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/54f65b715df74e863458ce0726ad3799.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170613/cf1a417f689fddc9e5b24a468e2418bf.jpg)

These two are the same one :)
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Post by: plankton on June 14, 2017, 09:52:55 am
They look so sweet when they're fry......... ;) *grin*
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Post by: Drunken horse on June 14, 2017, 10:16:11 am
They look so sweet when they're fry......... ;) *grin*

Female apistos stay like that.  Its only the males apistos who get the cichlid  "always angry" gob.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 14, 2017, 11:19:56 am
Lol Bubba does look moody but he is quite calm tempered, as is Stubbs. Its our yellow female thats moody mostly, although our one platy did have a pop at her last night lol


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Post by: Drunken horse on June 14, 2017, 11:43:47 am
When I had them it was the female who started the war with the Rams.  But she did look cute.
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Post by: Suelo on June 14, 2017, 12:59:33 pm
Ooh - those babies are just so cute!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 15, 2017, 07:32:52 pm
Amazing what you can do with some warm water, a scourer and a little bit of vinegar :)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170615/c62865d8d39d9a974b8c3b7fc8852695.jpg)


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Post by: Siege on June 15, 2017, 07:35:10 pm
As good as new, superb  *applause*
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Post by: Drunken horse on June 15, 2017, 07:45:36 pm
Good job you've done on that  looking forward to seeing fish in it.

Considering getting apistos again for my main tank cant decide which to go for if I do though. Thinking some of the more bluish ones
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Post by: Suelo on June 15, 2017, 07:59:04 pm
Excellent - it looks brand new!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 15, 2017, 08:07:06 pm
Thanks guys.
the umbrella (borelli) are more blue with yellow faces. The intention for this tank is for the baby apistos to grow out in, probably (haha) shut it down after (lmao) but we will see


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Post by: Suelo on June 15, 2017, 09:00:29 pm
IS there any such thing as a temporary tank? It seems to me that once a tank has fish in, it will continue to have fish in - even if the fish themselves change...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 15, 2017, 09:53:03 pm
I haven't had a temporary tank yet, every time we get an upgrade the original tank ends up being used for something else. But we are running out of room in the living room....


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Post by: plankton on June 16, 2017, 08:00:18 am
Nice job on the tank :)
I may be able to get a q-tank back soon, if I get around to it...... :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 16, 2017, 11:30:11 am
Thanks Ian, you do seem to be busy with your tanks lately I'm sure you'll get round to it sooner than you think ;)


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Post by: Calmwaters on June 18, 2017, 08:33:03 am
Been mad busy & not been on here for a few days. All caught up with you log now ;)
Sorry you lost your honey :(
The fry are awesome & very cute. Loving the pics of everyone too.
Living room/fish room it could be a thing ;)



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 18, 2017, 08:54:34 am
Thanks CW :) have you not seen my living room? The fry tank is in the cabinet under Marsellus's tank on the left...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/969cfd899619abcbca11fe7cc783cad8.jpg)


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Post by: Calmwaters on June 18, 2017, 10:10:18 am
Fish room it is then :D
Your making good use of space.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 20, 2017, 03:08:42 pm
Not a lot to report atm, tanks all warm due to the weather. I did lose a female signifer yesterday, first one i've lost since getting them, wonder if it was the heat. No outward markings of damage or injury.
The baby apistos seem to be growing well, otherwise its all business as usual, i have switched the filters to agitate the surface a bit more and have the air stones back on, this will only be while its so warm. Planning on doing so cooler changes this evening.


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Post by: kas on June 20, 2017, 09:02:23 pm
My tank is 2 degrees warmer than I'd like it to be at the moment, but I must admit that I'm enjoying this lovely weather.  Sorry to hear about your signifier.
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Post by: Calmwaters on June 20, 2017, 11:53:46 pm
Sorry for the loss of your signifier:(
I agree Kas the weather is lovely but I have had to do a couple of small cool water changes the last couple of days, as the tanks going up by 2 degrees during the course of the day.
Glad to hear the baby apistos are doing well GL :)



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 21, 2017, 12:18:04 am
Thanks guys
Yeah my tanks have been around 26/27 whereas they are normally around 23/24C so they are a bit warmer than usual. Hoping they will come down a bit more overnight tonight as it feels a lot cooler. Its not too much of an issue, probably more an issue for the platys than anyone else as long as its not long term we should be ok


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Post by: plankton on June 21, 2017, 10:31:36 am
Sorry you lost a rainbow. :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 23, 2017, 03:14:39 pm
Just a small update, tanks are looking a little messy, had a busy week and a bit and its thrown me off my routine again.
So once i clean and tidy them up a bit I'll try and get some pics of everyone.
For now you will have to suffice with some pics of the baby apistos and their messy little tank, although i think most of it is leaves from the water lettuce and just me not doing as many changes as I'd liked.
Anyway enjoy :)
A couple of blurry ones:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/09702e7ff3e99148ee710ecdc23df702.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/b1e23b0cad83bdbc0467a84fe85e5b3f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/c5852caea991bb766c84f85ac065043a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/a183b8d9b8955250fb8fe6a187ca0cc2.jpg)
Then i got my act together ;)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/a5de33e4a18754e5c549b924c5d6ce6f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/af31158e313721472851d44f53015769.jpg)
Possible male? Bit of an orange tinge in the dorsal fin
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/57ba12b41734377ea02fc9268cda97a9.jpg)
Not sure with these, although the last one looks more female i think
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/cc2d7b5c35f0045cd51ca357eeb88678.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170623/c273291c27f7f5fdf2fafcb44933d3ca.jpg)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 23, 2017, 03:27:30 pm
And the bulb has just (literally now) gone on my 100l, weird i was thinking i should change the bulb soon...


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Post by: Calmwaters on June 23, 2017, 08:42:24 pm
The babies are looking great & already seem full of character.
Isn't it weird when you think something & it happens ;)


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Post by: plankton on June 24, 2017, 09:55:56 am
I think, therefore it happens........ *13*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 30, 2017, 01:51:40 pm
My new bulb finally arrived today, so my 100l will have light again, and probably not too soon a couple of the plants have a couple of yellowing leaves, so i will have to have a tidy around.
I got a couple of amazon swords courtesy of Newbiefishkeeper (thanking you sir :) ), which i have now planted in Marsellus's tank. His actions and look was hilarious when i dropped them in and left them floating, almost as if to say "what the?! Where did..?". He spent a while scoping them out before deciding they were ok lol
I am also playing with liquid carbon for the plants now, so just trying it gradually to see if i get any result from it, i'll keep you all posted :)
We found another apisto baby in the 180l yesterday, same size as the ones in the fry tank! Been hiding really really well as i think they have been in their own tank for about 2 weeks now! So he/she has gone to join their siblings :)
Monica hasn't seemed to have been doing to well lately, shes still active and eating but has gone back to a habit of hiding/sitting on the gravel, and another possible cause for her behaviour (as I discovered the other night) is her and the honey have been fighting! The honey seems to think its funny to peck at her, at which point Monica goes mental and they end up scrapping :/ i even seen Monica actually hold the honey's anal fin and pull her backwards before giving her another beating...so the honey has picked the wrong fight even though Monica is weaker than she has been. Either way the honey is now in the 100l for both their benefits.
I think thats all thats happened in a week....
I'll post some pics up later :)


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Post by: Suelo on June 30, 2017, 02:09:52 pm
I'll be interested in how the liquid carbon goes, as I've been thinking about adding some myself.

I hope Marsellus does enjoy his new plants. Our gourami seem to enjoy them - in fact I think watching the fish in the plants is one of the things I enjoy most about our tanks.

I think it's amazing how well babies hide, because after having all your fry I bet you have a pretty good eye for spotting them as they move!

I hope Monica feels a bit better without the honey bothering her.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 30, 2017, 02:17:13 pm
Yeah you notice a tiny movement and your eyes instantly head to that spot, its like having eagle eyes lol god knows where the little one hid for that long, smart little bugger obviously :)
Just luckily enough we can separate them, she could've ended up with Marsellus!


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Post by: Drunken horse on June 30, 2017, 05:59:55 pm
I had to stop using liquid Carbon as it was making my anubias melt.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 30, 2017, 06:19:35 pm
Yeah thats what i'm watching with my crypts and valis DH. Thats why i haven't used it up until now. So i will be keeping a close eye on it :)


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Post by: Drunken horse on June 30, 2017, 06:27:56 pm
Yeah thats what i'm watching with my crypts and valis DH. Thats why i haven't used it up until now. So i will be keeping a close eye on it :)


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Was a bit of a pain  because the liquid ferts dont work as well without the carbon  and when I stopped the carbon it started a small BBA outbreak.
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Post by: Siege on June 30, 2017, 08:21:18 pm
 Really good looking baby fish GL.

See what you think to the liquid carbon. I use it every other day with no crypt melt at all.

If you have any algae on a fern or Anubias you can remove it and paint liquid carbon on with a paint brush, it'll kill the algae - top tip!

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Post by: Feliss on June 30, 2017, 10:15:33 pm
interesting top tip, didn't know that

i used liquid carbon at first but not sure it did a lot for the plants i had
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 30, 2017, 10:30:33 pm
Yeah i was aware you could use it to kill off algae similar to hydrogen peroxide, there is a chemical in it that is an algaecide, which is also why it can cause crypts and valis to melt theres a belief they share a similar make up to some of the algae (sure i read that somewhere before i planted the tanks)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 30, 2017, 10:33:48 pm
Dont you use co2 as well Siege?


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on June 30, 2017, 10:59:43 pm
I wish I had more algae for all my bristle nose plecos, I bet I have 50 now.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 30, 2017, 11:23:54 pm
Yeah i seen the bucketful you pulled out of the one tank, I couldn't believe there was so many!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 30, 2017, 11:51:34 pm
Anyway as promised some pics of the tanks currently (be good for reference for the plants and the liquid carbon)
So here we go:
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/e1b680af00d0b4fc8a59c848683fa56f.jpg)
Group shot with Bubba
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/941a616f641268d5b067b2f23a166d1c.jpg)
Bubba and our yellow female (need a name for her any suggestions?)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/98048c3af2c8c7c701ef809494aa01e0.jpg)
My sorry looking 100l :/
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/7da6b0f52170d12124f34563a2daeacf.jpg)
Arnie and his brother
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/7907893394b48f53bee8b5e0c48873ed.jpg)
Arnie's bro
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/ec6cdfe2bdc5f466694c4038030aadd0.jpg)
The honey
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/5d13756247535fed2d2fd85a25730688.jpg)
Arnie (check the fin and the little sword on the tail :) )
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/75f0cfb1edd5dd2bf4a909ac0ae05d5c.jpg)
Crooks (the smaller one) and his brother
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/118453503820eeb4b484fb80e6492fff.jpg)
Male signifer (only one i could get)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/a90d76e72503e52f357a093d20466ad7.jpg)
Marsellus's tank with the new swords
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/2dcdf6dc7ccf35a3d666f990d60e11e3.jpg)
Marsellus (just cause)
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A few dodgy pics of the baby apistos (see how many you can spot a few of them)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/1c014362216d11780c4479dbb3b0cac6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/96b5e3d53eafa2a64ddc9021752cc991.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/10ce994c74aec0e10e1e13e0ae6e0999.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/222870ed8ff8b03d435e78712d0cefcf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/eb1ac8e5d998dac2db946ce512fa9fc8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/0050bac6af2c809b8f3e9dc00fb0d0e2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/e4b7b97e87d8f3555c5dd3dbb72ada96.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/8fcdf11ef67403a9dc4a6033d7323120.jpg)



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Post by: DoubleDutch on July 01, 2017, 09:08:25 am
Anyway as promised some pics of the tanks currently (be good for reference for the plants and the liquid carbon)
So here we go:
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/e1b680af00d0b4fc8a59c848683fa56f.jpg)
Group shot with Bubba
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/941a616f641268d5b067b2f23a166d1c.jpg)
Bubba and our yellow female (need a name for her any suggestions?)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/98048c3af2c8c7c701ef809494aa01e0.jpg)
My sorry looking 100l :/
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/7da6b0f52170d12124f34563a2daeacf.jpg)
Arnie and his brother
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/7907893394b48f53bee8b5e0c48873ed.jpg)
Arnie's bro
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/ec6cdfe2bdc5f466694c4038030aadd0.jpg)
The honey
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/5d13756247535fed2d2fd85a25730688.jpg)
Arnie (check the fin and the little sword on the tail :) )
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/75f0cfb1edd5dd2bf4a909ac0ae05d5c.jpg)
Crooks (the smaller one) and his brother
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/118453503820eeb4b484fb80e6492fff.jpg)
Male signifer (only one i could get)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/a90d76e72503e52f357a093d20466ad7.jpg)
Marsellus's tank with the new swords
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/2dcdf6dc7ccf35a3d666f990d60e11e3.jpg)
Marsellus (just cause)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/d81abd03fee0f26e1d27e010650c47b6.jpg)
A few dodgy pics of the baby apistos (see how many you can spot a few of them)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/1c014362216d11780c4479dbb3b0cac6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/96b5e3d53eafa2a64ddc9021752cc991.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/10ce994c74aec0e10e1e13e0ae6e0999.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/222870ed8ff8b03d435e78712d0cefcf.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/eb1ac8e5d998dac2db946ce512fa9fc8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/0050bac6af2c809b8f3e9dc00fb0d0e2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/e4b7b97e87d8f3555c5dd3dbb72ada96.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170630/8fcdf11ef67403a9dc4a6033d7323120.jpg)



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Post by: plankton on July 01, 2017, 09:56:34 am
Do you mean dwarf is a thicklip Aad? It does look different in that pic. I've never noticed the ridge on its top lip before.......

Be careful with the vallis and liquid CO2, they are known to melt with it at normal doseage anyway.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 01, 2017, 12:30:54 pm
Yeah i haven't done full dosage because of that Ian ;)
And until you both mentioned about Marsellus's (the dwarf) lip I hadn't noticed myself...but you have me confused as to who is what now lmao
Having a read, the thick lip gourami seem to grow bigger than either Marsellus or the honey are at now, Marsellus hasn't grown much in the time I've had him, the honey has definitely grown but shes maxed out at the size she is now. They are not far off the same length 2.5"~ Marsellus is slightly longer nose to base of tail  probably closer to 2.75" and definitely broader bodied.


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Post by: plankton on July 01, 2017, 12:41:24 pm
The honey is a colour morph though, possibly even a hybrid, so Aad could be right with that as well.....oooh!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 01, 2017, 12:56:28 pm
That is true...just means I might've been misidentifying my fish for the entire time i've had them lol


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on July 01, 2017, 02:36:14 pm
Those swords will take over the tank  roflmao.
I would suggest waiting a few weeks then removing whichever one is smaller. They do make great sleeping hammocks for labyrinth fish though.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 01, 2017, 02:40:03 pm
Lol we will see how they go, I wouldn't mind if they take over a bit, should fill it out nicely. Noticed a few more java ferns that are nearly ready for clipping so I imagine they will be going in as well lol
I'll let you know if Marsellus uses it as a bed, don't tend to see him sleeping much...


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Post by: DoubleDutch on July 01, 2017, 06:09:26 pm
I believe the "honey" is a colormorph of the T.labiosa

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Post by: plankton on July 02, 2017, 10:27:08 am
Wouldn't it be bigger if it was only a thick-lipped? I know they only get to 3" though.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 02, 2017, 01:00:18 pm
Really made me question what she is now lol
I cant find much about the thick-lipped size wise other than 4", which i assume would be the male which i'm also guessing would be bigger and also have an almost dwarf patterning. But looking at pics of females  some are very similar to her. With her being around 2.5" she could be a small female? (That or my measure of size is well off lol)


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Post by: DoubleDutch on July 02, 2017, 05:13:29 pm
Really made me question what she is now lol
I cant find much about the thick-lipped size wise other than 4", which i assume would be the male which i'm also guessing would be bigger and also have an almost dwarf patterning. But looking at pics of females  some are very similar to her. With her being around 2.5" she could be a small female? (That or my measure of size is well off lol)


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Could you place another pic ?

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 02, 2017, 07:18:40 pm

Could you place another pic ?

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Some previous ones of her, let me know if you want a "new" one :), they're from before i moved her to my 100l so different lighting etc
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170702/728a309bc7afc56f2252868922f4e878.jpg)
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Post by: DoubleDutch on July 02, 2017, 07:25:23 pm

Could you place another pic ?

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Some previous ones of her, let me know if you want a "new" one :), they're from before i moved her to my 100l so different lighting etc
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Thicklip to me.
Link doesn't work.

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 02, 2017, 07:43:14 pm
Link?
Either way looks like she may have been misidentified from the start
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Post by: Calmwaters on July 02, 2017, 08:33:27 pm
All looking good GL, even the 100L ;q
The Apisto babies are coming along brilliantly, you definitely have that something in your water.
I clearly can't help you on the gourami ID but interesting stuff. 


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Post by: DoubleDutch on July 02, 2017, 08:48:06 pm
Link?
Either way looks like she may have been misidentified from the start
Yeah I put a link in the post but it appeared to be false. Think it is cause there are so many colormorphs and sold under several names.

Humans should have interfered in the work Mother Nature has done.
 

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 02, 2017, 10:11:16 pm
Ah fair enough :) thanks for the info Aad, means i can have a good look up on them and see what i can find lol
I also think you meant "shouldn't have interfered" ;)
Thanks CW :) hoping to get it to fill back out a bit now i've got the light back :)

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 02, 2017, 11:11:28 pm
Found a great use for my OH's lush boxes ;) padding for the apisto tank!
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Shoal of apistos anyone?
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They seem to be loving the new space :)


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Post by: DoubleDutch on July 03, 2017, 06:28:08 am
Ah fair enough :) thanks for the info Aad, means i can have a good look up on them and see what i can find lol
I also think you meant "shouldn't have interfered" ;)
Thanks CW :) hoping to get it to fill back out a bit now i've got the light back :)

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Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on July 03, 2017, 07:29:51 am
Loving the fry, my c. Venezuelanus  layed some eggs for me last night less than a week after the move  *grin*.
Unfortunately I had to nip out during the spawn and when I got back, I could only find 1 egg, rainbows had the rest I think. Still, 1 is better than 0.
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Post by: plankton on July 03, 2017, 09:46:18 am
I thought Lush didn't do animal testing........! ;) *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 03, 2017, 11:27:01 am
Nice hope the remaining one hatches for you, failing that they might spawn again with any luck :)
Lmao Ian :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 07, 2017, 12:29:50 pm
2 months old today :)
Thought i'd catch a video, apologies for the odd blurry bits, new phone plus its a phone camera lol enjoy :)
https://youtu.be/cUTfpKyklE0


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Post by: Drunken horse on July 07, 2017, 02:49:21 pm
Look great colours starring to come through
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Post by: plankton on July 07, 2017, 03:27:52 pm
I still think you ought to stop the experimentation........ :P ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 07, 2017, 04:10:05 pm
Thanks DH :)
So far the "experiment" seems to be ok Ian, just found another survivor, so we're at 12 little ones now!


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Post by: Siege on July 07, 2017, 04:18:22 pm
Really cute looking things!

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 07, 2017, 04:29:09 pm
Thanks Siege, they've got quite confident since being in that tank, they also seem to know when i get the camera out as they always turn and face me head on which is a PITA lol


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Post by: Harbremily on July 07, 2017, 06:24:06 pm
They're super cute!
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Post by: Calmwaters on July 09, 2017, 08:18:00 pm
Awesome video, they are ace!! Watching them pick stuff up & spit it back out, I was thinking they were just emulating what their parents did to them lol.



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 09, 2017, 11:23:37 pm
Thanks both :)
Unfortunately we lost Gina today :( our first generation orange female platy (2years old approx). I think it was birthing complications, as she has dropped a few fry over the past few days but has still been hiding away a bit and not quite right. I can only assume a fry has got stuck or something like that :(
Either way that leaves Pearl and my sunset wagtail male left from our first batches of fry.
There are still a couple of fry kicking about in the tank, so we will see how they go.


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Post by: Suelo on July 09, 2017, 11:52:23 pm
Was just watching the Apisto babies video & thinking how chunky & cute they looked. Then I read about Gina - so sorry you lost her  :( It would be nice if you did get a couple of fry survivors.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 10, 2017, 12:37:57 am
Yeah the apistos are doing pretty well, 2 months old and there's definitely one with some orange in his fins.
We dont think this is Gina's first batch of fry as there was a few pregnant at the same time. But most of them will have been ones sent to other homes. I will keep an eye on the survivors and keep you posted as they go.


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Post by: kas on July 11, 2017, 09:59:41 am
Sorry to hear about Gina. Great to see the Apistos are doing so well.
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Post by: Pilgrim89 on July 11, 2017, 01:48:09 pm
Sorry to hear about Gina :(

Fingers crossed that some of her fry survive, eh? :)

Glad the Apisto's are doing well  *grin*
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Post by: Calmwaters on July 11, 2017, 08:02:27 pm
Sorry you lost Gina :(


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Post by: Feliss on July 12, 2017, 10:53:45 am
rip gina :(

those fry tho! the definition on them already with cute little eyes and all pottering about :D
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 13, 2017, 12:33:18 am
Thanks all :)
Its not my week, i lost another female signifer yesterday :(
i thought i seen one hanging around the surface away from group the other day, but at feeding and the following days she had rejoined the others as normal.
Otherwise everyone else seems fine. Theres a few more platy babies than we first found, i've seen around 5/6 kicking about so looks like we'll have some survivors yet. And our yellow female apisto has been spending time in her cave again, and looking very yellow and pestering Bubba ;)
Weirdly seen her earlier pecking at bubbles from the bar right next to the cave, swimming into the cave and apparently breathing the bubbles out inside there before swimming out of another entrance on the side...anyone have any ideas about that? Its a new one on me lol
I'll have to get some pics of the apisto babies, especially the ones i'm suspecting maybe male, some orange tinges to the fins. Its making me curious about the colours as Bubba was sold as a double red and our females are orange.
Did water changes and clean up and clipping, feeling a bit better about the tanks now, particularly the 100l after the light and trying to get the plants back on track. I have recently increased the fert dosage slightly from half to 3/4dose (using EI ferts). So hopefully we shall see a boost with the recovery in the 100l. The java ferns in the 180l must have about 5/6 young plants growing off them, so once they grow a but more i'll see if i can squeeze them in :)
Anyway here's some pics for you all to enjoy (hopefully ;) )
The 180l:
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Bubba :)
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Dolphie's legacy, Pearl (back left) and Akoya (back right)
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Pearl and Akoya hiding in the background
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Akoya, who was perfectly posed just as i press the button....
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Group shot :) (Going clockwise from the top: half'n'half, Dolphie's legacy, plattail, Akoya, Pearl(Mum) and a blue survivor
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The 100l:
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The platy boys (left to right: Sunset male 1st generation, blue survivor, Crooks and his brother)
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Arnie :)
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Signifer males, blue survivor and  Sunset male platy, and Stubbs (a bit camouflaged)
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Our "honey" or as we now believe a thick-lipped and Arnie (dorsal looking really long)
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Arnie and the sunset male (dodging the camera again!)
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Stubbs and a female signifer
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Got him! (Sort of lol)
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Marsellus's home (he wasn't available for close up pictures lol)
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Post by: KevB on July 13, 2017, 12:24:22 pm
Sorry to hear about the blue eye, frustrating when these things just go bad too quick to act on, happened to me as discussed in another thread. I'm horribly tempted by cockatoo cichlids every time I see them but I think ity may have to wait until I get a bigger tank and give them plenty of territory to take over.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 13, 2017, 12:53:27 pm
Thanks Kev, the cockatoos dont take up too much room and i think your tank is bigger than my biggest (a 180l vision), the spend most of their time around the bottom half and the females territory is the left hand side of the wood and the cave shes built is at at the back and under the glitter rock (where i cant see into it!), although Bubba does cruise around most of the tank. But they are quite peaceful, occasionally chase off anyone too close but no injuries or big fights :)
I'm hoping to have to room to keep one or two of the fry i have from them, but my OH doesnt want interbreeding between parents and siblings (which makes sense).


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Post by: KevB on July 13, 2017, 01:59:03 pm
Will bear it in mind. I do have a half coconut with some anubias tied to it in a quiet corner of the Rio 240 near the filter inlet. I put it in as a hidey hole for the amano shrimp but it seems to remain mostly empty, a pair of cockatoos might take it over I guess. Something to think about after I get back from hols next month.
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Post by: Suelo on July 13, 2017, 02:57:32 pm
Sorry to hear about your signifer, as you said, not a good week for you  :(

Sometimes I get bubbles coming up from a damaged leaf & the fish chase them, but when they do that it's clear that they think it's moving prey. I wonder if your Apisto is trying to keep eggs aerated?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 13, 2017, 03:04:21 pm
Thanks Suelo
We were wondering the same about the female apisto because there cant be a lot of flow in there as she dug into the gravel, but the airstone is more or less part of her setup lol if i see her do it again i'll try and film it, as its amusing if nothing else lol


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Post by: Calmwaters on July 13, 2017, 08:03:57 pm
Sorry for your loss, indeed not a good week :(
All looking greatthiugh, Arnie really is a beauty & Marsellus having a talk to my agent moment is so him.



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Post by: Stephen on July 13, 2017, 08:36:18 pm
I've just caught up on your tank log. Wow!
2 months old today :)
Thought i'd catch a video, apologies for the odd blurry bits, new phone plus its a phone camera lol enjoy :)
https://youtu.be/cUTfpKyklE0
Lovely little Apistos

Unfortunately we lost Gina today :( our first generation orange female platy (2years old approx).
Thanks all :)
Its not my week, i lost another female signifer yesterday :(
Sorry to hear of your losses mate  :(

On a more positive note your tank pics are great  *applause*

Stephen
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 13, 2017, 09:19:25 pm
Thanks CW and Stephen :)
It is true its so Marsellus to act up lol
The apistos are growing really fast, especially since they got put in the 65l tank my mate gave me.
Glad my photography has improved at least temporarily lmao ;)


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Post by: Macey2906 on July 14, 2017, 12:49:38 pm
Sorry for your losses, your tanks are looking great. Very inspiring:)
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Post by: Pilgrim89 on July 15, 2017, 10:40:57 pm
I really hope your loss streak stops with immediate effect! :( sorry you've lost one of the Signifers, they're awesome and cute little fish :)

Your Apisto collecting the bubbles is a strange one! I thought the same as Suelo that the Apisto may have been attempting to aerate the bubbles ... I have often thought, despite the circulation in the tank being fairly well done, that the upturned plant pot I've got for my Kribs could suffer with not getting enough oxygen-enriched water due to there being only one 'door' in and a drilled hole in the 'top' but I'm not sure and there'd really only be one way to test it and that would be with an oxygen measuring device but I'd wager they could cost a canny few quid :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 16, 2017, 12:35:08 am
Thanks Macey and Pilgrim :)
Yeah i did wonder the same about the flow inside her cave, especially as its under the filter, under a rock dug into the gravel. Its just an unusual behaviour, and smart if that is what shes doing along with fanning them.


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Post by: Mol_PMB on July 16, 2017, 09:59:50 am
Certainly unusual behaviour but I'm sure she knows what she's trying to do!
Looking forward to more pics of the fry developing :)
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Post by: plankton on July 17, 2017, 10:46:42 pm
Sorry for your losses :(
The fry sound promising.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 18, 2017, 12:36:54 pm
Just a couple of updated pics of the fry, the colours are really coming in now. Still not totally certain on whether they're male or female, we think the more colourful are males, but males generally don't have black on the ventral fins, so who knows lol time will tell :)
All doing well, eating anything i put in for them, its funny I accidentally put a tiny bit of bloodworm in the other day and although it was bigger than one of the frys mouths they had a good go at tearing it apart! Looked like they enjoyed themselves doing it lol
Anyway heres some pics. Hope you enjoy :)

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Post by: Feliss on July 18, 2017, 02:01:34 pm
when you see them close up you forget how small they are, then you see them in the more zoomed out photos next to the moss ball  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 18, 2017, 03:25:28 pm
Perception is fun lol
They're all around 12-15mm at a guess (thats without tails), and really looking like miniatures of the parents now :)


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Post by: Siege on July 18, 2017, 03:31:46 pm
Nice pics GL, you've obviously got the knack with the fry stuff.

You getting paid to endorse Lush products? dont think the fish would appreciate a pink fizzy bath bomb in the tank though! roflmao
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 18, 2017, 04:29:10 pm
Thanks Siege :)
In all honesty I'm pretty much repeating what i did for the livebearers with some good advice off Paul (Mol_PMB), who has been very helpful along the way :)
Lol no i'm not getting paid, still have to pay to get stuff off them! Might have to have a word, probably get sent a fish shaped bubble bar or something lmao ;)
(The boxes do make a good spacer though!)



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 18, 2017, 11:51:37 pm
Feeding time tonight, apologies for the music i found it entertaining (been playing about on youtube lol)
Also my OH caught our female apisto bubble catching :)
https://youtu.be/nJ2gYUbjoe8
https://youtu.be/rO-Sijl4V7I


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 18, 2017, 11:53:42 pm
Just noticed at 33-35secs in the first video, the apisto at the back chomps down a bit of bloodworm!


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Post by: Suelo on July 19, 2017, 12:04:47 am
Nice vids! Mum Apisto definitely looks like she is taking air bubbles into that cave.
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Post by: plankton on July 19, 2017, 10:19:49 am
The fry are doing weell *grin*
I've never seen a fish, other than labyrinths, do anything like that before.......that must also be why the home is by the bubble-stone.
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Post by: Calmwaters on July 20, 2017, 10:07:24 pm
I was thinking exactly the same as Feliss :D they are looking great!!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 20, 2017, 10:30:56 pm
Thanks both :)
Its a good possibility Ian, my OH did say she noticed that the female spends her time in the cave and around the corner when the airstone is on (we had it off for a while when i switched to a single stone for the gourami in the qt).
Either way as per usual our tanks/fish defy normal behaviour lol


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Post by: Stephen on July 21, 2017, 04:09:45 pm
I like the videos.
The babies are looking good and healthy. Well done Iain  *applause*
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Post by: bbroom89 on July 31, 2017, 04:54:19 pm
Hi GL,

Just caught up on your log so far, i have been looking at Apisto's as an option, any advice and thoughts that you fancy sharing? *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 31, 2017, 05:20:18 pm
Advice...listen to this wonderful lot lol
What sort of advice or thoughts are you looking for? Eg tank space, other inhabitants, setup
Because i cant give many lmao
We went for the apistos (4 to start, 1 male [Bubba] and 3 females). I was advised either a pair or harem.
The tank they are in is 180l (less the half tree and rest of the decor) it seems as if our yellow female territory is on the left hand side of the wood and Stubbs hangs around the right hand side by the coconut shell, Bubba tends to float between both. The wood is a good block for the line of sight between both.
I have seen two females have a spat before with flared gils and circling, tail slapping (also a sign of mating behaviour) and odd charges/chases. But they never lasted long.
A lot of places mention the use of plant pots or coconut hides for caves, however our yellow female wasn't content with that and rearranged the corner for herself. I would advise either small gravel or sand for them as they do dig around (especially for food). I have often seen Bubba trying to spit out the bit of gravel hes just picked up with the food (it also kind of cool watching sand filter through the gils).
As a general rule though ours have been fairly peaceful, chasing the platys if they go into their territory but no serious injuries or big fights.
The females particularly spend most of their time around the bottom of the tank in their areas, normally come up when we go to the tank thinking they're getting fed lol
Hope that helps

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Post by: bbroom89 on July 31, 2017, 05:38:29 pm
Haha thanks mate!

I have a 125l which I was thinking of 2 females and 1 male hopefully they would tank and end of the tank each and the male flit between them.

Have Limpopo sand substrate with red limestone rock and a piece of wood along with some java fern.

I have 6 otos and maybe more as I feel they will not get picked on as much as some other fish (from the research I have done) also they shouldn't bother the eggs to much.

Trying to think of anything else is relevant but off the top of my head I think not!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 31, 2017, 07:26:02 pm
Yeah the platys had a hard time getting anywhere near the nesting site (or anywhere from front to back on the left hand side) when they bred, but she was very concerned on getting back to the fry so just chased them out of the area.
I cant imagine they would bother the otos much unless they do wander into a territory. If you do think of anything just ask either me or anyone else here (who knows more than me...not that hard haha!) will give you the best answer we can :)


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Post by: bbroom89 on July 31, 2017, 09:09:06 pm
Eurgh so much auto correcting in my previous post surprised you understood it!

Thanks bud, i'm sure i will i find it is better to cross reference everything on here for safety's sake!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 11, 2017, 01:46:08 am
So its been a little while, so i figured i should update. Where to start....
The 180l, i have moved Stubbs back to the 180l much to Bubba's delight, the other female isn't too happy about it, but Stubbs tries to stay out of her way (like everyone else really lol). But Stubb's colour is now a golden yellow and she has been displaying to Bubba, and a few mornings i have caught him coming out of the coconut bridge with her :)
It also appears our blue male did his job a little too well before i could catch him (its been a few months), as we have quite a few platy babies swimming about so it wasn't just Gina who was pregnant (typical livebearers!). Either way they're all doing pretty well in with all the adults and the apistos, so we'll be moving them on in a few months along with the baby apistos. Fun times :)
The 100l, is business as usual, i've had to clip the plants a bit more lately and i've stopped using the liquid carbon as i don't think its helped. Feeling a bit better after the water changes today. The fish are all fine, Arnie and his brother have the odd spat at each other but its nothing more than a "get out of my way" sort of thing, and they don't bother anyone else. The 6 signifers (try saying that fast!) are still displaying through the days but all looking well, some of the fins have grown well since i've had them, just wish they weren't so hard to catch on camera!
Marsellus is just Marsellus (he's ok), the amazon swords Newbie sent me have settled in well and sprouted a few leaves and look a little more filled out :)
And then the baby apistos! All 12 are doing well, some variation between sizes but theres a few that i think are nearing 20mm long, and i also think i'm working out who's male and who's female. They're all eating well, occasionally chase each other and then on other times they look as if they're shoaling.
On other news of the plants after having a clip back earlier, i have a good few java ferns of varying sizes, i've put them in the fry tank for now but if anyone wants any just let me know and i'll send em out :)
Anyway i'll split this up from my babbling and the pics and videos :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 11, 2017, 01:50:57 am
Pics and vids :) sorry for the musics i'm such a child lol
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/047c5ba67f2f1f048caad18081c98167.jpg)
Bubba and the yellow female
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/f70fe22aae5c7f5c8bd60d6279641b05.jpg)
Akoya
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/c8c3e8a015877cabfe6ae6fb376a65e6.jpg)
Stubbs and a blue baby
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/ca5c88de0fb845efdf520ddbdcf73125.jpg)
Akoya, Monica and the smaller blue mimic of Pearl
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/88d8940099959450a1f97f85fb2a2a00.jpg)
Couple of group shots
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/57191ee099b79f64127d22bd1c3cdf3e.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/6b7e1d097f330277f2c3bd3428942ca8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/ccbd8a1f24efb9bc626842c47cb47fb4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/f962c5484ba2dc950f850b259bf1ed19.jpg)
Video :)
https://youtu.be/pXkQ16MDY40


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 11, 2017, 01:55:47 am
The 100l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/78821a9453d819c4d67494771a68e69c.jpg)
Signifers, TL gourami and our last 1st gen male platy (sort of)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/ac5c529b39607f72a53f1ed4e23b4e6b.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/dbe4304f87db776323ced15cfd03d502.jpg)
Thick lip gourami (aka our honey ;) )
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/c77874b7704bf8e721b8098988a5a498.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/b322334f08bcb44176c7fb07c9c506a8.jpg)
1st generation male
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/e45ba716c7b1626a6de925fac96533a1.jpg)
Boys amongst the crypts
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/cca2944ffebc96c19af54e2233f9d972.jpg)
Arnie
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/0b9c1040e431c1bcd725858e1351782e.jpg)
Video :)
https://youtu.be/GCYhcNKtslY


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 11, 2017, 02:02:42 am
Marsellus :)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/385cee283c1a8e675270718c71a5e561.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/d6d8b1244189a595e40d0526e964e95e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/20dbcb51d376afd9ea37c507aaa0cd67.jpg)
Video :)
https://youtu.be/_8Z6ZCXIwcg

The apisto babies
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/098d26285a6bf499373ff1f591bb761e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/2ac785ce11bb36b0bed1b63757e8a557.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/e651ff6b4f8ba71390d54a61584fd65e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/a30ff7d19fa1ed1123d8e0a98afd45eb.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/7391e53838073f16077ec39f9fd29b9c.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/ad5c6c8dd4478b9759db7b000b907b59.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/bca2c55e7a4193c020889c9b264339e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/94de6ac21706c28e7820689c5b6d2c69.jpg)
Definitely male! (Think we're keeping this one)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/f745a934055138f1c8c3725580dee238.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/1c7bfb06f4959ff4f42d916c4ccfb736.jpg)
Video :)
https://youtu.be/T0R2CEe0_mQ


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 11, 2017, 02:13:24 am
All looking good, I love the baby apistos.
I have some baby platties that I think come from one of your.
I think a 70ltr tank might magically appear in my bedroom tomorrow lol.
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Post by: Suelo on August 11, 2017, 07:41:53 am
Yes, all looking great. The baby Apisto s are proper little fish now! Also, Your platy ladies look like they may have more on the way - Blue male was a very busy boy!
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Post by: Stephen on August 11, 2017, 08:36:33 am
Still looking good Iain  *grin*
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Post by: plankton on August 11, 2017, 10:11:46 am
Very nice, thanks for the update. :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 11, 2017, 12:09:34 pm
Thanks all :)
We expect there'll be a few more baby platys yet. A couple of the older adults (namely Pearl and Akoya) are both big girls anyway, Akoya is the biggest platy we've ever seen, she almost has a rainbowfish shape lol
Glad our "babies" have produced some more for you Newbie, funny how its around the same time (i reckon the warm whether has had an influence).



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Post by: bbroom89 on August 11, 2017, 12:30:37 pm
Lovely looking tanks mate! Especially like the 100L's natural feel.

P.s. i am so not jealous of your Apisto's and their babies ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 11, 2017, 12:57:05 pm
Thanks mate :)
Lol funny, its the 100l ("my" tank) i've been most disappointed with lately, and ironically the only tank with an unnatural object(s) in it (the little dragon in the left corner, and the bubbler is a chest but its hidden fairly well)
The apistos are fascinating and a change from the livebearers, surprised at how fast they mated and produced a good batch of young :)



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Post by: bbroom89 on August 11, 2017, 01:22:53 pm
Attention to detail should not be on my CV!

I blame it being in the corner of the tank. Now i know it's there i can't not see it.
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Post by: kas on August 14, 2017, 07:58:44 pm
Thanks for the update GL. The tanks are looking great. Your Apistos are fab. We'll done *applause*
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Post by: Calmwaters on August 16, 2017, 09:16:20 am
All looking fantastic GL. I didn't realise you had so many apisto babies. That is incredible & they all look fab. & the fun begins again with the platies.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 16, 2017, 11:59:05 am
Thanks guys :)
Yes CW, 12 little apistos and about 20 odd platies, who just going to have to grow up and get moved lol
Wont be shifting them around the tanks now, or at least not until i can work out males and females to separate them lol


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 20, 2017, 08:13:07 pm
Ok so a "little" development...
The last remaining plat-tail in the 180l appears to be male as well!
So he has now joined Arnie and his brother in the 100l with the other platy boys, the signifers and the "honey". We've been suspicious for a while but the anal fin has remained fan shaped but with a thicker edge, up until the last week when we started to noticed the fin change and then last night we actually seen him "swing" the fin. So it was out with the nets and after a lengthy 5 minute (yep thats right!) chase he was set off into my tank.
Still don't know how were going to manage the platy babies this time around as we dont have all the room we had before with Marsellus taking up the 54l, and the 64l with the apisto babies, and now we're not 100% sure they are just platys or platys crossed with a cross dad! *bangs head against the table*
Think we have to develop contraception for our livebearers lmao


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Post by: Suelo on August 20, 2017, 10:20:45 pm
Erk!!  These platy males really do play a sneaky game!  How old is the 'new' male now? I've decided that platys are only easy to sex if a) they are definitely male or b) if they are definitely pregnant/have had babies. But I would think that your new male isn't likely to be a dad of any current babies if his fin has only just changed shape, as the fin shape is a necessary to impregnate the ladies.

Any chance the baby platys could grow out with the Apistos, as the Apistos stay more towards the bottom?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 20, 2017, 10:53:20 pm
Probably around 9/10 months, he's definitely one of the later batches that Monica had as he's a survivor after we moved the others on. With him being a cross it's uncertain on what the total development time would be and some "hide" their true colours for some time until they might be the only male, but this is normally in the earlier part of their life. He would have been one of the tiny ones in amongst the original masses we moved in January.
The tank the apistos is in is 65l, and i don't think it would hold them all together for long enough before becoming overstocked, plus looking at the babies this evening they're getting near an inch long, and i don't know how they would get along a some of the apistos are brave and swim around the entire tank.


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Post by: Suelo on August 20, 2017, 11:03:02 pm
Big plastic storage tub? Might be less likely to become 'permanent' if it's not a proper tank...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 20, 2017, 11:26:19 pm
Its not so much keeping them alive they're doing a good enough job of that on their own, its trying to not over stock the tank.
The storage box might be an option but we'd need another filter. Could be an option once they're a bit bigger.
Here's a short video and this is just the ones in view lol
https://youtu.be/4ZqWmRXJUVM



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Post by: Suelo on August 20, 2017, 11:51:48 pm
Oh, they are very pretty. I think they have taken advantage of lots of cover.

I've been using a storage box as a QT tank for a few weeks, and it's worked really well - very functional. But it's not that attractive to look at!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 21, 2017, 12:10:21 am
Thanks :)
Some are Gina's (gotta be) and god knows who has come from who otherwise lmao
Yeah i think so between the wood, the java ferns making a forest and the floating plants rebuilding a total cover in a little over a week has helped them hide, also surprised that the female apisto mum doesnt chase them off, Stubbs does at dinner time, otherwise no one really seems bothered by them...
Functionality might be the option with a small filter or 2 for them, think i have another heater somewhere. As you say that should help sway the "permanent fixture" issue lol


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Post by: plankton on August 21, 2017, 09:35:10 am
Livebearers are so sneaky.....................I bet if I took out ALL the guppies in my tank, I'd still find some in a few months.............. *rolleyes* ;) *grin*
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Post by: bbroom89 on August 21, 2017, 10:16:43 am
I was debating using a storage tub, the fish will be more than happy but your eyes may not! Can never seem to get one clear enough to look through.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 21, 2017, 11:38:19 am
I reckon the same with this lot Ian lol
Just cant believe how long it has taken him to change. Just glad we kept watch!
Its funny bbroom the only crystal/clearer looking ones seem to be coloured, all the clear ones seem to be a bit hazy.


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Post by: bbroom89 on August 21, 2017, 11:57:28 am
Take it to Dragon's Den mate!
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 21, 2017, 11:58:27 am
MA will take the platties if you need rid.
I am seeing quite a few babies now aswell so may need to take a trip to MA myself.
I am using a plastic tub to house Herbert the betta. He loves it, just not very pretty.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 21, 2017, 12:49:25 pm
They're only a few weeks old atm and probably too small for them to take them yet anyway.
I know in work (i work with plastics making dvd etc cases) and for our really clear boxes they use clarifier, but clearer again is the styrene trays. Unfortunately styrene wouldn't make a good temporary tank, would shatter worse than glass lol


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Post by: Suelo on August 21, 2017, 09:08:47 pm
I used an IKEA Samla Box, which was £5 (although I already had it), they do deeper ones too. It's not as clear as glass, but it's not too bad either.

I think each MA might have their own policies when it comes to fish, as none of my local MA would take platys.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 21, 2017, 11:44:42 pm
I think it depends entirely on whether they have the room for them or not as to whether they take them.
The box does look a bit clearer than others ive seen when full, thanks for that Suelo something else for me to look at in case :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 24, 2017, 11:14:40 pm
A couple of pics of the baby apistos this evening and a pic of Bubba for comparison. I would've got one of Mum as well but on inspecting the tank for her I couldn't find her anywhere...
On looking a little closer noticed the rock she had dug under was slightly off key, so fearing the worst i lifted the rock.
Fortunately shes ok, a little pale i imagine due to stress so I'm leaving her sort herself out for now. I've put the rock back but angled and put it onto the airstone at the back still creating a cave and hopefully not upsetting her too much, and hopefully stopping it happening again :/
Anyway heres some pics
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/ee678573ab76c2b4d9cd80ebd6bfd12d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/392719ed4c1e9c424b2196e2ab1244fc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/2e7c0a8a119d85eea705def0f3e33f16.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/5ed7509768db71349f18b049233df48b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/5f4b83d5b2fe4914fb26ba3dabaa022e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/f9df2ee2b680cffa1adb15ed1f00ff40.jpg)



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Post by: Suelo on August 24, 2017, 11:50:59 pm
Sounds like Mum had a lucky escape tonight, just as well you went looking for her.

The baby Apistos are looking mighty fine - especially the one in the 2nd pic down. Will you be able to find a way of keeping that one?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 25, 2017, 12:58:08 am
The bright orange male? Theres a couple of them he's the only one of the orange ones i can see with the points on his tail.
The one we are keeping is the last one my OH really likes him, but the orange on them is really vibrant. I think the yellow one is the alpha sister hence the colour :)
We can either keep a couple of females and get a new male or keep one male and potentially pair him with Stubbs :)

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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 25, 2017, 12:59:34 am
Shame about the rock, hopefully she settles down nicely with her new house/rock arrangement.

I am really loveing the apisto fry, especially the last 2 pics, they look most like there dad.
I would love one but my stocking won't allow it. I have to get round to finishing the fish room asap.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 25, 2017, 01:15:12 am
Hopefully, she seems ok.
The last 2 are the same fish from different sides, he's the only one like it :) but it so weird his ventral fins are different


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 25, 2017, 01:19:15 am
The same fish? Thats really unusual that he isn't the same on both sides. Never seen that before. Even his Patten is different.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 25, 2017, 01:21:57 am
Yeah i just noticed his pattern doesnt show on his side in the first pic, to be fair that first one is also him towards the back of the tank so the zoom may have pixelated it out a bit. But the ventrals are definitely different i know that about him.
PM'd you btw :)


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 25, 2017, 01:34:15 am
That's definitely the most striking of the fry appearance wise.
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Post by: plankton on August 25, 2017, 09:53:32 am
Growing up nicely. :)
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Post by: bbroom89 on August 25, 2017, 12:48:50 pm
Glad you got mum out safe mate! Some lovely looking fry there!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 26, 2017, 11:18:12 pm
On tonights notes:
Arnie and Carl Weathers (Arnie's recently named brother, you might get the reference) have been fighting, and being as Carl is actually bigger than Arnie now, Arnie has come off a bit worse and has a bit of a chunk out of his fabulous top fin :(
So i have moved Carl out...wait for it...in with Marsellus....
Unfortunately i have no other way of separating them at the moment, and being as he has proved he's up for a fight we will see how he deals with the biggest badass in our fishy arsenal lol
I'm not really happy about it as i really dont know how this is going to pan out :/ but its the best i can do for now, but i think we're going to have to move him on :(
Shame as he's got a lovely pattern and colouring and has also developed a clear sword similar to Arnie's, also has a big squareish shaped dorsal fin. I'll try and get a pic of him at some point, just a bit gutted for Arnie atm and just hope his fin grows back ok :(


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Post by: Suelo on August 26, 2017, 11:39:19 pm
Poor Arnie, I hope his fin ends up being Ok :(

It might work out OK with Marsellus - maybe his time in solitary will have reformed him. My platy, Monster Baby fought all the other male platies but seems quite content with the gourami (I think he thinks they are his harem though).  Are you able to put a load of plants in with the two of them to help break up their lines of sight?

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 27, 2017, 12:11:54 am
Thats a good idea :)
I might stick my one java fern from my 100l right in the middle to create more of a split with that and the amazon sword Newbie gave me. I'll see how they go, my OH said we'll get up tomorrow and him and Marsellus will have teamed up! Lol


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Post by: plankton on August 27, 2017, 10:25:18 am
Pristine water and Melafix...... ;) :)
Oh, and don't forget the garlic.....
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 27, 2017, 10:44:55 am
That's abit unfortunate for Arnie. Hope everything works out for you.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 27, 2017, 12:23:58 pm
Thanks Ian ;) Already fed them some brineshrimp with garlic last night after i found out it had all happened, and melafix this morning.


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Post by: Stephen on August 27, 2017, 04:43:53 pm
I hope Arnie gets fit again soon and maybe round two  :boxing:  *grin*
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Post by: Calmwaters on August 27, 2017, 10:57:00 pm
Fancy picking on Arnie, outrageous behaviour lol. Seriously though I hope he makes a good recovery & the two bad boys get on ok.
Great pics in previous posts too ;)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 28, 2017, 07:12:15 pm
Well so far both the bad boys don't seem bothered by each other even feeding together the other night. Hopefully it will continue.
In other news...whats this...?!
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 28, 2017, 07:34:25 pm
Nice pictures.
Hope it does well with you  thumbsup
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Post by: Siege on August 28, 2017, 07:40:44 pm
Half a fish?

Breeding too easy, You propergating them now GL?!  roflmao
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 28, 2017, 07:41:13 pm
Thanks :) me too!
Quite an active little bugger, gone from one side of the tank to the other already :) plenty of algae in there for him to munch on as well as the wood so i don't think he knows where to start lol
(I say he, we will have to see haha)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 28, 2017, 07:42:02 pm
Lmao Siege, didnt you know? Just plant the tails and they grow!


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 28, 2017, 08:53:48 pm
Thanks :) me too!
Quite an active little bugger, gone from one side of the tank to the other already :) plenty of algae in there for him to munch on as well as the wood so i don't think he knows where to start lol
(I say he, we will have to see haha)


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I have found that fry are more active than adults. When the adults come out to play they have real presence with there size and attitude. I love them and wouldn't be without a pleco now.
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Post by: Suelo on August 28, 2017, 11:00:42 pm
Glad to hear the boys are getting along for now. Nice new addition!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 28, 2017, 11:47:40 pm
Thanks Suelo, loving the little pleco so far been watching him clear chunks out of the algae thats on the glass in Marsellus's tank (its still his tank even when the other two are in there lol).
Looks like he/she is having a field day lmao


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Post by: plankton on August 29, 2017, 09:47:24 am
I have two (or four) of his/her brothers/sisters, depending whether the brown and albino had the same parents or not...... ;) *grin*
I'm hoping they clean up before they grow up. ..... :)
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Post by: bbroom89 on August 29, 2017, 11:06:58 am
Sorry to hear about Arnie mate, hopefully the situation works itself out!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 29, 2017, 11:56:29 am
We'll be able to make comparisons Ian.
So far so good Bbroom :)


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Post by: plankton on August 29, 2017, 12:03:16 pm
Huh? What? Oh, the fish, sorry....... :P
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 29, 2017, 12:13:52 pm
Lmao behave!
Heres a couple of pics from this morning, wish i took pics before but you can see where he/she has been busy!
The tank is turning into "Newbie gardens" ;)
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Post by: bbroom89 on August 29, 2017, 12:21:06 pm
So clear we can almost see your reflection!
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Post by: Calmwaters on August 29, 2017, 12:36:50 pm
Liking the mystery new edition.
Glad the bad boys are getting on ok :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 29, 2017, 12:50:40 pm
you dont want that Bbroom!(remember the avatar! Lol)
Thanks CW, theres no mystery (at least not to me, aside from if its a boy or girl lol) ;)


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Post by: bbroom89 on August 29, 2017, 01:33:16 pm
 roflmao And i thought you looked very dapper (I think that's what the kids are saying now days!?)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 29, 2017, 02:43:19 pm
Ok so further update today....went in to feed to baby apistos and spotted this...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170829/ae878131c98ccc02027aeb08d573fa80.jpg)
Not the best pic, but I immediately came to the realisation of what it was...
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Seems as if the siblings have been fighting :( so i think its time we got them moving before we have anymore injuries. I've put the one we're keeping in my tank as planned, the one with the half tail is in a tank on his own with a bit of melafix. (What did we say yesterday Newbie?!)
My next question (and i will post a separate thread for this as well):
Would anyone like any apisto cacs?
If so reply here (or the other thread) or pm me, and unlike with the platy fry i wont be giving these away, as my lfs is also interested in them but i thought i would give you lovely people first refusal if anyone is interested.
They are just coming up to 4months old.
Also i would advise either having a single male or a couple of females not both to prevent inbreeding problems down the line as they are all siblings.



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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 29, 2017, 03:07:46 pm
I will have to have I am afraid. If it doesn't get on with my stock (I have alot of bottom dwellers) then I shall run a sneaky extension to the basement.
Sorry but I can't say no.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 29, 2017, 03:12:08 pm
Don't apologise lol
Just make sure you can take them and look after them :)
The question would be what are you wanting?


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Post by: bbroom89 on August 29, 2017, 03:16:40 pm
Have you been keeping sharks as well GL? Wish i could take a couple of fems but they wouldn't get on with my shrimp tank or my Agassizii tank :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 29, 2017, 03:28:41 pm
Lol no....not yet!
Think i've found the culprit though, one of the females had laid eggs behind the heater! So i've just had the heartbreaking task of taking them out so they dont hatch (inbred eggs cant be a good thing).
Feeling a bit gutted for her now though and i just feel horrible :(


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 29, 2017, 03:41:25 pm
Don't apologise lol
Just make sure you can take them and look after them :)
The question would be what are you wanting?


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I will definitely be cherishing it. A male please. I will try it in the main tank first but if there is any problems what so ever I will set him his own tank up downstairs.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 29, 2017, 03:46:53 pm
Cool theres a couple which are bright orange tails and fins, and i think there another developing Bubba's sort of patterning (double red). Ill get some pics in a bit of them :)


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 29, 2017, 03:49:39 pm
I would be happy with any but if it looks anything like bubba I will be like  *yahoo*
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Post by: bbroom89 on August 29, 2017, 04:45:18 pm
Interesting you say that about the inbreeding. Is there a certain amount that can be done then you need to refresh stocks or do you avoid at all costs?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 29, 2017, 04:53:05 pm
There is a certain amount that can be done but after a few years down the generations, problems can become obvious such as deformities or lower numbers of eggs/babies produced if no "new blood" is introduced.


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Post by: Calmwaters on August 29, 2017, 04:56:29 pm
Sorry to see the siblings have been squabbling & you have had to cull the eggs.
I would love to have a couple of Cac's  but sadly until I move house & get my planned 4ft tank I don't have space. Good luck with homing them all though GL


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 29, 2017, 04:59:31 pm
Personally I would avoid inbreeding whenever possible. Just not fair on the animal.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 29, 2017, 05:06:21 pm
The tank is turning into "Newbie garden's "
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Lol no....not yet!
Think i've found the culprit though, one of the females had laid eggs behind the heater! So i've just had the heartbreaking task of taking them out so they dont hatch (inbred eggs cant be a good thing).
Feeling a bit gutted for her now though and i just feel horrible :(


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And this *cry*

Well you have done the right thing pal. Must of been horrible though.
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Post by: Suelo on August 29, 2017, 05:11:42 pm
Not a nice thing to have to do, but best thing I would think.
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Post by: plankton on August 29, 2017, 05:20:40 pm
The tank is turning into "Newbie garden's "
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You'll be waiting a long time for that I'm afraid.......
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 29, 2017, 06:17:25 pm
The tank is turning into "Newbie garden's "
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You'll be waiting a long time for that I'm afraid.......

Oh is it not possible?
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Post by: plankton on August 29, 2017, 06:49:47 pm
The tank is turning into "Newbie garden's "
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You'll be waiting a long time for that I'm afraid.......

Oh is it not possible?
Not by anyone who comes on the forum......and does anything anyway...... ;)
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 29, 2017, 06:55:23 pm
The tank is turning into "Newbie garden's "
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You'll be waiting a long time for that I'm afraid.......

Oh is it not possible?
Not by anyone who comes on the forum......and does anything anyway...... ;)

 *d'oh*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 30, 2017, 01:07:17 pm
Well this BN has done a number on the algae in Marsellus's tank. Spot the difference!
Its been 2 days since we put him/her in, first pic is the tank 10th of august second pic is today.
I think its cleaner than i've got it lol
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Post by: plankton on August 30, 2017, 02:16:50 pm
I see the thermometer has been shifted........ *rolleyes*
My clowns used to do that, and the otos sometimes do it as well.
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Post by: Calmwaters on August 30, 2017, 02:47:31 pm
Impressive! He/she has had a feast. :)


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on August 30, 2017, 03:03:20 pm
Impressive. Just be sure to keep it fed with wafers and the flake otherwise it might start rasping at the sword plants.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 30, 2017, 03:33:33 pm
Lol yeah, it doesn't stick at the best of times but it was stuck in place this time! I'm sure Marsellus used to move it, i've seen him pecking at it when its come off so its made me wonder.
Theres still a few patches on the wood so he has a little while yet but i will be getting some wafers for him ready :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 02, 2017, 07:29:56 pm
One male apisto down today, courtesy of Newbie :) he's gone to join his inhabitants in his 300l.
His brother in my 100l seems quite happy and no ones bothered him, my OH said the "new" plattail went up toward him the other night and as he turned out the plattail shot across the tank. So i dont think anyone will be bothering him!
The female I believe who ripped half the tail off the other male has calmed down now, we put her in the small qt, and shes ok just a bit less yellow and angry now :)
And the male looks as if his tail has already started to grow back, and he's behaving normally getting around with no issue and eating well, so hopefully he will heal quickly :)
In other notes Arnie's fin looks ok, will have to watch for growth on him now, but hes well otherwise.
Hopefully this the start of things calming again for a little while :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 02, 2017, 07:32:15 pm
Last group shot minus the angry female and the male we put in my 100l:
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Newbie's new addition
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And with a couple of the others
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 02, 2017, 07:32:58 pm
Thanks again pal.
Glad things seem to be settling down for you and hopefully you can get the rest of the fry shifted.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 02, 2017, 07:41:35 pm
No problem mate and thank you :)
Hope you have plenty of joy out of the little guy (although if hes like his dad he'll be a decent size!)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 02, 2017, 10:38:15 pm
Couple of pics from Marsellus's tank. A couple of Carl Weathers (Arnie's brother) if you look you can just see his sword and Marsellus looking very blue on his fins :) i did try and catch the BN flaring but he/she kept moving into a place on the wood where i cant get a pic!
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Post by: Suelo on September 03, 2017, 12:08:31 am
Both looking very handsome  thumbsup
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Post by: plankton on September 03, 2017, 11:05:18 am
Nice. :)
Was it Carl Weathers in Predator with Arnie, or was it something else they were together in? (I know he was in Rocky ;) )
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 03, 2017, 01:03:13 pm
Thanks guys :)
Spot on Ian :) Carl Weathers was in Predator with Arnie, although it was my OH who come up with the name ironically lol


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Post by: Calmwaters on September 03, 2017, 08:17:16 pm
Fantastic pictures, both boys indeed looking mighty fine. :D


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 03, 2017, 09:49:15 pm
Thanks CW :)
Managed to catch the BN chomping on the cucumber (finally). I know he/she had been at it in the night as theres a definite dip in one side. But they seem to be loving it now they know its there :)
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Tail and fins up!(had to really lighten this picture to see him properly :/ )
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Post by: Suelo on September 03, 2017, 11:02:18 pm
Good to see him enjoying his greens  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 03, 2017, 11:43:04 pm
Well i had a call from my OH telling me to come quick as she thought something was wrong. I normally cut up (normally 1/4s) some cucumber and leave it floating for the rest of my fish. Somehow he/she had managed to get onto a bit and drag it to the bottom, but they were totally on their back trying desperately to hold on, then lost their grip laid on their back for a few seconds before turning back over and then buggering off lol
God knows how they got onto it unless it was close to the glass somewhere


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Post by: plankton on September 04, 2017, 09:41:06 am
They do that, so do otos and snails....... :)
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Post by: bbroom89 on September 04, 2017, 10:37:19 am
Sounds an amusing episode, lovely pictures GL!
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 04, 2017, 11:54:42 am
Wait till you see the bn upside down at the surface, that will give you a fright. They like to occasionally forage under the duckweed in my tank.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 05, 2017, 09:03:43 pm
Someone was hungry!
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Post by: Briganti on September 05, 2017, 09:09:40 pm
Those apistos are looking Great! Haha! BNs do love their veg, mine used to go nuts for mushroom. Not so good for the water though.  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 05, 2017, 09:26:11 pm
Thanks B :)
Newbie has one of them now, another male is in my tank, and the male with half a tail is showing good regrowth (i'll get a pic shortly). But i'll be putting an ad up now to move them on before another female decides to mate with her brother or rip someone elses tail off :/
I am impressed with the BN, between the clean sweep of algae in a couple of days, and now putting holes in a lump pf cucumber in a couple of days!


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Post by: Briganti on September 05, 2017, 09:37:51 pm
Haha! I do really like apistos, a shame I don't have anywhere to put any at the mo. The BN will plough through most things, quite surprisingly pear and melon are real favourites. They don't do your water any favours either though.  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 05, 2017, 09:47:47 pm
Lmao turn my hard alkali water to hard acidic water!
That does surprise me though, already had a short list of things i've fed to all my other fish (greens).
I love the apistos, such interesting behaviours when breeding and their general behaviour with each other and the other inhabitants. Plus they're the only dwarf cichlids i can have lol


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Post by: Briganti on September 05, 2017, 09:59:18 pm
Haha! They have healthy appetites, red and yellow peppers, even a very occasional bit of frozen prawn, mine loved bloodworm too. I am looking around now, pondering a bit of a rearange. There must be a snug little corner somewhere.  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 05, 2017, 10:05:52 pm
I'm not complaining, just glad he/she is eating well as they are quite young. Funny though whenever i go over to check them, they will stick their dorsal fin right up and swing its tail in one direction (at me oddly enough), it weird lol
Keep me posted if you do find a cosy corner ;) just bear in mind they are young (only 4months) and already wanting to breed! Proper Lannister/Targaryen situation lmao


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Post by: Briganti on September 05, 2017, 10:11:09 pm
Haha! Bro/sis/mum/dad, what does it matter?  *grin*  Even the Targs didn't go that low! Your BN is showing you how big and hard he/she Is, and get off MY food.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 05, 2017, 10:18:07 pm
lol apparently it doesnt!
I did wonder if it was that funnily enough or just a general sort of threat. Either way he/she will have to get used to it lol i find it quite amusing, its like Marsellus acting the big bad at me lol


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Post by: Briganti on September 05, 2017, 10:26:27 pm
No, it probably won't stop. Foods far too important. Wait till it gets defensive enough to flash its odontoids at You, weird.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 05, 2017, 10:37:38 pm
BN's are definitely the fiestiest fish I have had the pleasure of owning. When I pic up the wood that the adults are on I can feel them attacking me, luckily not with the spikes. roflmao
Also I am in love with the apisto. Mine has made a home out of a spare sponge filter that is in the tank in standby.
Here it is lol
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 05, 2017, 10:58:49 pm
Lol that i'll look forward to! Fortunately i dont move the wood much! haha!
Glad your happy N :) took me a second to realise his head is the shape on the left, it was the fin that gave it away ;)
My little male was out and about with the platys and signifers this evening, they're so mesmerising to watch :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 05, 2017, 11:08:43 pm
Quick pic of the regrowth on the apisto male baby, not bad for a few days :)
Looks like it might be a half and half tail now though :/
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Post by: Suelo on September 05, 2017, 11:17:11 pm
Love how your BN has eaten the soft bits, & left the 'crust'

Maybe the Apisto tail's regrowth may colour up at some point? When my guppy's tail was regrowing, the new growth was colourless at first, but did then get colour into it. It's great that it's growing back so quickly anyway.
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Post by: plankton on September 06, 2017, 10:29:35 am
Nice to see the tail regrowing. There's still a chance it will colour-up again.
My BNs are flicking their tails all the time, it's so funny. :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 06, 2017, 11:34:30 am
I hope it colours, although it might look quite cool half and half. We will see how he goes.
Glad I'm not the only one getting "threatened" by their BN lol it is really amusing though :)


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 06, 2017, 11:38:49 am
These BN are quite cheeky considering that they were rescued from an inch of water. Ungrateful sods.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 06, 2017, 12:04:16 pm
Think i might rename the 54l the FWA tank, i love the fact he/shes got a bit of attitude :)


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Post by: kas on September 06, 2017, 06:00:45 pm
It's been a while and to save me reading back through the log, what does FWA stand for? :)
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 06, 2017, 06:29:28 pm
My guess is   f:censored2:ing w:censored2:s attitude  roflmao
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Post by: kas on September 06, 2017, 06:31:45 pm
Yep, thought as much! LOL
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 06, 2017, 06:41:50 pm
I bet it's actually fish with attitude lol
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 06, 2017, 07:33:38 pm
Lmao you're right the 2nd time N
Dont worry Kas you haven't missed too much...um...lol (nice to see you btw :) )


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Post by: Calmwaters on September 06, 2017, 10:25:42 pm
Your BN sounds like he's definitely in the right tank, FWA lol. Reading yours & Newbies tales of there antics has got me thinking I will have to add a BN to my list for planned bigger tank. Just the pesky hassle of selling ours & moving house delaying the plan. It's funny though we've been viewing houses & the will a 4ft tank fit as well as my current one question is on the list of absolute must haves :D
Glad the apistos regrowth is going well & the GOT incest reference made me lol too.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 06, 2017, 10:32:05 pm
Thanks CW :)
Yeah mines turned out quite a character already.
And a 4ft tank is a must have! Lol as mentioned before (maybe here not sure) our plan is to get our stock to a suitable level and compatibility then merge all the tanks into one. Probably still end up with another besides though, my OH really wants a betta. Oddly enough that conversation came up the other day, after she found our lfs does RO water for 10p/l (not sure if thats good but it doesn't sound bad to me). So that might be another future venture...
And i'll keep it up with the GOT references as long as i can! (Gotta remember the avatar is me as a wight! ;) )


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Post by: Calmwaters on September 06, 2017, 10:58:07 pm
Always good to have a plan & not sure of the going rate for RO water but 10p/L sounds good to me.
Ah yes re your avatar, I will keep some dragon glass &/or some Valerian steel handy ;)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 06, 2017, 11:12:32 pm
Lol it was a good day! got turned into a wight, burned to dust by a dragon, sent up The Wall and shot down the other side and finally got to sit on the "throne" :)


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Post by: Calmwaters on September 06, 2017, 11:22:10 pm
:D


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Post by: Suelo on September 06, 2017, 11:28:08 pm
That sounds like a great day, GL. I read all the GOT books way before it ever found its way onto TV, but I think the series has gone past where GRRM wrote to in the books.
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Post by: Calmwaters on September 06, 2017, 11:39:37 pm
It has Sue. Have you not watched any of the show?


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Post by: Suelo on September 06, 2017, 11:59:28 pm
I've watched all the TV shows but been many years since I read the books, or at least the last couple of books. I've re-read the earlier books more as I preferred them. Haven't read the books since I started watching the series, as didn't want to spoil the bits of the story I couldn't remember!
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Post by: Calmwaters on September 07, 2017, 12:01:04 am
Ah I see. That makes complete sense. I haven't read the books but it's on my to do list :)



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Post by: Suelo on September 07, 2017, 12:06:45 am
Well, I loved them. Definitely one of my favourite series. Can take a little while to get into, as so many characters, but I think will be good if you've seen the series, as you'll know who people are. I'm sure you'd enjoy them  :smiley:
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 07, 2017, 12:30:46 am
Yeah i found the series helped with the characters in the books, i've only read the first few though. But it does help you visualise who each person is as you can put a face to the name so to speak :)
Pretty sure the show has gone past where the books are written, so it will be interesting to see the differences between the two :) theres already been a couple ;)


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Post by: Briganti on September 07, 2017, 07:33:44 am
The later books do wander a bit and introduce even more characters but are well worth a read. I read them years ago but have reread a few times since.
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Post by: Stephen on September 08, 2017, 02:21:36 pm
Is GOT referring to Game of Thrones?
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Gotta remember the avatar is me as a wight
What is a wight? or is it white?
I have never read the books (not a book reader unless it's to educate myself) and not seen the series (I won't subscribe to watch TV) although I understand the series is excellent.
More pleasure just watching the fish or watching a good DVD/Blu-ray ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 08, 2017, 02:52:02 pm
Yes Stephen GOT - game of thrones, and a wight is a White/wight walker or part of the army of the dead. It is a good series of books as well as a good show, to the point you hate George R.R Martin at points lol might be worth a watch when the all come out on dvd/blu ray once the series finishes, otherwise you'll be pained like the rest of us waiting a year for the next series lol
A white walker for you :)
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Post by: Stephen on September 08, 2017, 06:25:32 pm
Thanks Iain

A white walker for you :)
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Looks like one of the locals on a Friday night ;)  *grin*
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 08, 2017, 06:35:34 pm
Is GOT referring to Game of Thrones?
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Gotta remember the avatar is me as a wight
What is a wight? or is it white?
I have never read the books (not a book reader unless it's to educate myself) and not seen the series (I won't subscribe to watch TV) although I understand the series is excellent.
More pleasure just watching the fish or watching a good DVD/Blu-ray ;)
*applause*
Agree
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Post by: plankton on September 09, 2017, 09:39:12 am
They were wights according to JRRT. ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 12, 2017, 03:13:03 pm
Well this isn't a great update, the weekend has been a little harsh :(
Come home from nights Sunday morning to find our Mum apisto on the bottom next to her rock lifeless :( there was a smallish redish mark (looked internal), i'm suspecting a possible slow internal injury/bleed from the rock falling, but cant be definite. It's sad as shes been out and eating and acting normal. She was a little quiet for a few days after the rock but she seemed to perk back up, so i've been keeping an eye on her incase :(
The other bad news is Marsellus :(
He looked a bit round around his stomach in the past few days, so i gave the tank a couple of starve days. Come home from work yesterday morning and he was hanging around but pointing up more than normal and looking a little faded in colour. I headed out to go get some peas for him (dont know how we didnt have any), and by the time i came back he was gone :(
I've tested all the tanks, everything has come back as expected. Just a bit gutted.
Also to top off my frustration we put an ad on preloved for the apistos, and by the seems of it things have changed with how the ads work. Free users can reply to ads....once they have been up for 12days!
Everyone else is ok, and the little apisto who had his tail torn has grown about half of it back already. So that is a positive note.


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 12, 2017, 04:52:16 pm
Ohh no that's terrible about Marcellus.
And the mother aswell, just awful.
Really sorry to hear that mate, I know they are just fish but fish Greeks like ourselves get really attached. They are family at the end of the day.
Once again I am really sorry for your losses.  *bye3*
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 12, 2017, 04:53:32 pm
God I am shocked. I had never met Marcellus but felt I knew him and was fond of him. Really feeling for you pal.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 12, 2017, 06:02:43 pm
Thanks N! I cant believe it myself either one of them!
Mum apisto was what we described as a perfect looking fish always brightly coloured, she was a beauty. Marsellus we were expecting after a while because of the hardness, but this came on a bit quick. Its just weird looking at the tanks and not seeing either one of their characters and attitudes looking back or showing off :(


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Post by: Suelo on September 12, 2017, 08:28:25 pm
Oh, that's terrible news, to lose both of them at the same time. I'm so sorry for your losses  :(

From reading about them it seems that they were both big characters. As Newbie has said, they form part of the family & we do get very attached to them & it's very hard when they go. 

*rip* Marsellus & Mum Apisto
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Post by: Calmwaters on September 12, 2017, 11:25:43 pm
I'm am so so sorry to read your very sad news :( it's just awful. Couldn't agree more with Newbie & Sue they become part of the family.
I will miss hearing & seeing about Marsellus's little fish with big attitude antics & mum apisto was a beauty too.
Really sorry for your loss mate. :(


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 13, 2017, 12:52:07 am
Thanks Sue and CW
It is hard because they were such big characters. Marsellus's lack of tolerance for just about everything and mum apistos attitude about guarding her area of the tank, occasionally chasing Stubbs to get Bubba's attention, or just generally pestering the platys that are "in her way".
Anyway on another small update we have now separated the male and female apisto babies. We've put the 6 females into Marsellus's tank with Carl Weathers and "Sarah Jessica Parker" (as my OH keeps referring to the BN, bit harsh on the BN i think lol), leaving the 4 males in the 64l. Also have a name for the last plat-tail (courtesy of my mate), he's now Jesse "the body" Ventura just to add to the ongoing joke that we seem to be having naming them.


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Post by: plankton on September 13, 2017, 09:02:49 am
Sad news :(
They have kept me amused/bemused for a while now.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 13, 2017, 10:39:36 am
 roflmao
Poor BN. My OH says they are ugly aswell. When called them blobs. I still have a fair few knocking about that I couldn't catch last Sunday.
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Post by: bbroom89 on September 13, 2017, 12:47:27 pm
Sorry to hear of your losses GL!

That all happened very sudden :(
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Post by: Calmwaters on September 13, 2017, 01:06:54 pm
SJP lmao. Guessing your thinking girl then lol.



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Post by: KevB on September 13, 2017, 04:34:17 pm
Sorry about your losses, sounds like you did your best for them all which is as much as we can do. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 13, 2017, 04:37:14 pm
Sounds like you have space for some cory now if you put some sand in.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 13, 2017, 08:58:15 pm
Thanks Ian, Bbroom and Kev. Glad you have had amusement from them as well as me, means I must've done their characters some justice. It was all a bit sudden, and caught me off guard thats for sure.
Also glad you all find the SJP thing amusing, i am guessing the BN is a girl as there are no signs of any bristles yet but we will see, my OH says it doesn't matter whether its male or female lmao
As for room, we still wont have any for a while, between shifting the apistos (if we ever manage to, im sure we had an easier time moving the platys/plat-tails! lol) and then the platy fry that are overrunning the 180l need to be shifted and then its where we stand with remaining stock before adding anything else.
Also on another note N, i seen the SJP skim across the surface upside down the other day after having a munch on some floating cucumber. I've also caught them lying on their back after falling off the wood of filter! Well funny lil fish!


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 14, 2017, 04:10:13 pm
Definitely full of character.
I am sure the shops would be happy to take the apistos if needs be.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 15, 2017, 01:52:56 pm
Just a few pics, i dont have a lot to say atm (weird i know!). Enjoy :)
Our little bub ;)
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With the rainbows (gives you an idea on his size)
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Bubba (looking miffed) and half n half with a load of fry
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Half n half
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Stubbs
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Caught Stubbs and Bubba flirting (sorry for the reflections i was trying to be quick!)
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Just Bubba
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 15, 2017, 01:58:31 pm
A couple more...
Arnie(you can just see a little bit of the regrowth)
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Female baby apistos
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Half of them
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Speckled female (also the one we think laid eggs and battered her brother)
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Curly filament on this ones dorsal
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Half tail (although its almost grown back!)
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All orange...
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Couldn't catch the little one, wouldn't stay still for a photo!


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Post by: bbroom89 on September 15, 2017, 03:40:49 pm
Just a few pics, i dont have a lot to say atm (weird i know!). Enjoy :)

Makes a change for you mate! Love the scraggly looking cac. Actually thinks it gives him more character. Lovey pictures though!
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Post by: Feliss on September 15, 2017, 05:07:48 pm
Sorry you lost a couple of characters :(

Your other fish look in great form and colour tho!
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Post by: Suelo on September 15, 2017, 05:56:07 pm
Great pics  :smiley:

Glad the fins are healing & growing back well.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 15, 2017, 06:09:56 pm
Great pics as usual. Arnie is a geogous fish.
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Post by: Stephen on September 15, 2017, 07:24:10 pm
The fish and pics look good  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 15, 2017, 07:36:07 pm
Thanks all :)
On another note of moving the baby apistos on, i have spoken to my lfs who will have them off us for store credit, but may want them slightly bigger. I'm going over Monday to get a better idea of sizes that they're after and to give the ads around for them a bit more time, especially with preloved and their nuisance (i'm being really polite there) 12day period that only allows premium members to reply to new adverts....
Anyway I'm not starting another rant about that I just don't seem to have the energy right now :/


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Post by: marty.h on September 15, 2017, 08:50:11 pm
Those fish look mega whats the fish in the first 4 pictures on post #493 love the colouration on that :)

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 15, 2017, 09:07:35 pm
Thanks Marty :)
He's an apistogramma cacatuoides or cockatoo cichlid, his Dad is the big one (Bubba), we lost mum last weekend.
He's the one were keeping out of the 12 fry that survived and we've grown up since, they're now 4.5months old. But he is more coloured and patterned than any i've seen for sale lol


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Post by: marty.h on September 15, 2017, 09:18:59 pm
Thanks Marty :)
He's an apistogramma cacatuoides or cockatoo cichlid, his Dad is the big one (Bubba), we lost mum last weekend.
He's the one were keeping out of the 12 fry that survived and we've grown up since, they're now 4.5months old. But he is more coloured and patterned than any i've seen for sale lol


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Was going to say I've not seen anything so bright in colour before if they was all like that would tempt me to freshwater a 6ft full of them would look impressive

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Post by: Calmwaters on September 15, 2017, 09:37:17 pm
Fantastic photos GL glad to see the regrowth going well.



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 15, 2017, 09:56:56 pm
Was going to say I've not seen anything so bright in colour before if they was all like that would tempt me to freshwater a 6ft full of them would look impressive

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Wow tempting a marine keeper...I'm impressed!
He is pretty unique, not sure how more than 1 male would get on as they are cichlids...suppose it would depend on space and females etc
But if it would work that would be awesome :)
Thanks CW, Arnie is getting there a bit slower than the apisto but i figure because the apisto is much younger he regenerates faster (much like us)


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Post by: marty.h on September 16, 2017, 10:00:14 am
the chap at shop said i could easily change to cichilids and keep my existing rock and he said the die off on it from going from marine to freshwater would soon have the rock cycled food for thought there then :)

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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 16, 2017, 10:57:34 am
Thanks all :)
On another note of moving the baby apistos on, i have spoken to my lfs who will have them off us for store credit, but may want them slightly bigger. I'm going over Monday to get a better idea of sizes that they're after and to give the ads around for them a bit more time, especially with preloved and their nuisance (i'm being really polite there) 12day period that only allows premium members to reply to new adverts....
Anyway I'm not starting another rant about that I just don't seem to have the energy right now :/


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Have you tried gumtree and facebook groups? I am having a good bit of success with those sites.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 16, 2017, 12:57:14 pm
Yeah N, my OH has signed up to a load of FB groups (loads of likes but no takers), put one on gumtree the other day.

the chap at shop said i could easily change to cichilids and keep my existing rock and he said the die off on it from going from marine to freshwater would soon have the rock cycled food for thought there then :)

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With regards to cichlids Marty, i imagine the guy in the shop meant rift lake cichlids (Malawi and mbuna) which are hard/very hard water, need a big tank and overstocking to reduce aggression.
the lil guy and his dad are dwarf south american cichlids. The apisto cacs are the only dwarf south american ones that can take my hard water. The rest of the South American cichlids prefer soft water.
The other big cichlids (North/central American) tend to be harder water, one of my faves of them is the ellioti cichlid. These are a bit calmer than the africans but can still be bit aggressive.


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Post by: plankton on September 17, 2017, 10:48:50 am
Nice pics Iain. :)
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Post by: marty.h on September 17, 2017, 10:55:12 am
Yeah N, my OH has signed up to a load of FB groups (loads of likes but no takers), put one on gumtree the other day.

the chap at shop said i could easily change to cichilids and keep my existing rock and he said the die off on it from going from marine to freshwater would soon have the rock cycled food for thought there then :)

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With regards to cichlids Marty, i imagine the guy in the shop meant rift lake cichlids (Malawi and mbuna) which are hard/very hard water, need a big tank and overstocking to reduce aggression.
the lil guy and his dad are dwarf south american cichlids. The apisto cacs are the only dwarf south american ones that can take my hard water. The rest of the South American cichlids prefer soft water.
The other big cichlids (North/central American) tend to be harder water, one of my faves of them is the ellioti cichlid. These are a bit calmer than the africans but can still be bit aggressive.


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I dont know much about freshwater cichilids i know they aggressive and need a good amount of them to stop it but the colours on that fish are just stunning and I'm not sure what type he ment but like I said he said I could use all my existing rock for what ever ones he was on about.

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Post by: chesterjohn on September 17, 2017, 11:06:44 am
The cac is a very nice specimen.

I wouldn't advise keeping multiple males unless you've got a huge tank. I had a young one that suddenly appeared out of a cave one day, and they didn't seem to be bothered by each other. Then suddenly I found one dead and the other literally disappeared at the same time. Can't be sure it was a fight, but I have no other idea how it happened. This is in a 4ft tank with a lot of hiding places.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 17, 2017, 12:00:03 pm
Thanks Ian and CJ :)
Yeah you would need a lot of room to keep more than one male, funnily enough the young females seem to have more attitude than the males atm lol either way father and son are separate.
Definitely sounds like mbuna or Malawi, one of them eats plants so the decor needs to be hardscape (rocks etc)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 26, 2017, 08:28:36 pm
So today has been fairly successful, we have managed to move on 3 female and one male apisto. A mate of mine from work asked his mum and auntie who both have tanks and know a little bit about dwarf cichlids, having kept and keeping a few of them.
We also have someone coming at the weekend for the remaining 3 females to pair/harem up with his male :)
So after this weekend only 3 males will remain, half tail (or spike[gremlins] as my OH keeps calling him), curly filament and the little one. So finally some success! Also has a comment that they are more beautiful in real life compared to the photos, which has made me smile :)
On other notes we have swapped Arnie and Carl Wheathers around, Arnie seemed to have beef with all the male platys especially the smaller ones, and we’re not sure what he was trying to do with Jesse, either way Jesses didnt seem to care which was amusing. While my OH was trying to catch Carl he kept leaping out of the water, which freaked her out so i had to catch him in the end, he had some impressive leaps! Either way they are swapped over, and everything is calm again...for now...
On a separate note from the fish, after reading something Munchy posted the other day (thanks for your help Munchy!) about the EI ferts and dosing the powders straight to the tank instead of mixing before hand. So as my chelated mix has ran out i started that today, but i thought i would try this method with both micro and macro and see if there is any difference. As a small theory in my head (we wont go any further there...) by adding the nutrient salts directly it may give a more widespread dilution and also potentially feed the roots a bit more. So we shall see how it goes, its just fun working out the powder amounts to add to each tank!


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 26, 2017, 09:02:57 pm
That's good news about the fry.

I just leave my male platties to get on with it. Nothing ever comes of the aggression that the male fish dish out to each other.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 26, 2017, 09:12:25 pm
Yeah but these are plat-tails not just platys so they have some swordtail attributes about them (including the mood!), the male platys dont bother one another lol plus Arnie has already had a chunk taken out of his dorsal fin so its before anyone else gets hurt
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 26, 2017, 09:15:05 pm
Also for amusement purposes...
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Post by: Suelo on September 26, 2017, 11:52:31 pm
It's good news that you've found good homes for more of the Apisto babies  thumbsup
Hope the Arnie & Carl swap over continues to go well.

Also, love the pics.  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 27, 2017, 12:01:01 am
Some pics of everyone hope you enjoy :)
The 180l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170926/98f489f1d2453255f0e0a927c452e335.jpg)
The happy couple
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Half and half and a baby (everyone else was too quick just after feeding)
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The 100l:
Almost everyone in these if you look close enough
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Our lil bub
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Signifers having a rally while feeding,and the lil one photo bombing!
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The 54l:
Watch SJP!
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5 seconds later...
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A couple of the female babies
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Arnie...looking moody (and blurry sorry :/ )
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The 65l (the remaining apisto boys):
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Post by: plankton on September 27, 2017, 08:48:29 am
Are they not being experimented on by Lush any more? (or was that another tank?) ;) *giggle*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 27, 2017, 09:25:09 am
Lol no Lush have discontinued their experimentation with them.
Had to half empty it and “hulk” it down the stairs for yesterday so its now on our kitchen worktop :)


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 27, 2017, 04:57:52 pm
Looking good.  SJP has grown alot.  thumbsup
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Post by: chesterjohn on September 27, 2017, 05:27:26 pm
Not sure I can see the theory behind dosing salts being better, but maybe you're onto something.

How come the one tank is so green?
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Post by: Calmwaters on September 28, 2017, 01:56:27 am
Glad your finding homes for your Cacs.
Fantastic photos, Buba really is stunning. The Arnie with attitude made me lol. SJP is a busy little BN & everyone is looking great :D



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 28, 2017, 07:13:04 pm
Thanks all :)
SJP has been on a good diet, after obliterating all the algae in the tank in about 2 days, my thought was he/she will keep it up, so its regular bits of cucumber and hikari wafers (not all at once). But definitely grown and definitely wider than when they first got here lol
CJ - just following something from Munchy, it just made sense to me and made me curious so i thought i’ll give it a go :)
The 180l is really green because the water lettuce/duck weed has taken over the top again (gotta take a load out when i do changes) and the gravel is also green (not my choice!)
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I take loads out when i do changes but it soons grows back, and I’m a little overdue on my changes this week because its been my OH’s birthday and we’ve had a couple of days in London :)


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Post by: Suelo on September 28, 2017, 10:56:52 pm
And I thought my floating plants got out of hand between water changes!

Hope you both had a good time in London.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 28, 2017, 11:07:15 pm
Thanks Suelo, London was ace :)
Lol you have no idea, if i’m a couple of days out (like i am) it goes mad. I’ll be doing changes tomorrow so i can see me throwing out quite a lot...although saying that i might send Newbie some to rebuild his cover (funny as thats where it started)


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Post by: chesterjohn on September 29, 2017, 02:31:17 pm
I'm surprised there's any light at all getting through that  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 30, 2017, 03:28:33 pm
There we are all the apisto babies have been rehomed, the last 3 males went to our lfs and a guy who already has a male apisto had our last remaining females. So a bit of a slow start but we got there :)
Now just to sort out all the platy babies!
Heres the last photos of the baby apistos :) enjoy
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on September 30, 2017, 05:34:00 pm
Well done Iain. Question is, will you do it again?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 30, 2017, 07:00:33 pm
Thanks N :)
This time wasn’t intentional (wonder if thats the best way sometimes lol), it was a case of nature taking its course as Bubba and mum pleased. We did help out a bit along the way and it has felt more rewarding than the platys.
We have discussed getting a female for our little one but we have had a lot of discussions about what we plan to do etc so we will see what we decide as we go :)


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Post by: marty.h on September 30, 2017, 11:41:58 pm
I can't believe how much colour they have stunning freshwater fish.

I was at the LFS today and was looking at chillids  (excuse spelling) and was surprised just how colourful they are there was one in the tank that had mega bright colours if I ever went back to freshwater that's what I would have as the colours are great.

Your fish looking stunning as normal :)

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on September 30, 2017, 11:58:30 pm
Thanks Marty :)
For as bright and pretty as they are we didn’t have a lot of interest from the ads, hundreds (and i mean hundreds) of views and likes, and over all only 2 actual replies and only 1 of them was suitable. A mate for my work (mum and aunt) had a male and the other 3 females and Newbie had one of the other males (who has really turned out like Bubba [the dad] if you’ve seen his log).
Funnily enough i seen what must’ve been the calmest tank of african cichlids i’ve ever seen at my lfs today, granted there must’ve been about 50 in there mind lol

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Post by: Suelo on October 01, 2017, 08:22:24 am
It's great that they have all been rehomed now, but I bet it feels a little bit funny too.

Do you use Gumtree at all for the fish ads? When I've used it to rehome the platys I've had a lot of responses in a short time.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on October 01, 2017, 11:25:59 am
A picture of the male you gave me here for you.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 01, 2017, 12:08:46 pm
It's great that they have all been rehomed now, but I bet it feels a little bit funny too.

Do you use Gumtree at all for the fish ads? When I've used it to rehome the platys I've had a lot of responses in a short time.

Yeah it felt a but weird not going to check on them or watch them last night, also means its just Arnie and SJP in the 54l now.
We used Gumtree, Preloved and my OH put ads up on facebook groups.
Funnily enough when we were moving the platys they went quicker, i think its like the guy at my lfs said where people want something for nothing, as we weren’t giving them away. But i didn’t think we were asking over the odds either (especially as our lfs offered us exactly what i wanted without us asking). It may have been (as N said to me) that i might be ott on the inbreeding side of things, either way no real issue of that now :)
Thanks for the pic N, he is beautiful! Are you still calling him lil Bub (its quite fitting lol)? My OH is still trying to work out a name for ours lol


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Post by: plankton on October 01, 2017, 06:01:42 pm
I don't overworry about in-breeding, although that is why I got the two new pandas to spread the bloodline........
I would be worried about selling my guppies though as that's been going on for 18 years...... ;) *rolleyes*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 01, 2017, 06:14:07 pm
Yeah i can understand why Ian lol
We have talked about it and have come to the conclusion it must happen in the wild as well, but if we can avoid it then we will try to :)


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Post by: marty.h on October 01, 2017, 07:32:43 pm
I don't overworry about in-breeding, although that is why I got the two new pandas to spread the bloodline........
I would be worried about selling my guppies though as that's been going on for 18 years...... ;) *rolleyes*
Do they have extra fins ect then haha

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Post by: marty.h on October 01, 2017, 07:33:40 pm
It's great that they have all been rehomed now, but I bet it feels a little bit funny too.

Do you use Gumtree at all for the fish ads? When I've used it to rehome the platys I've had a lot of responses in a short time.
I hate gumtree with a passion all I have ever found when advertising is idiots and time wasters

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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on October 01, 2017, 07:43:47 pm
It's great that they have all been rehomed now, but I bet it feels a little bit funny too.

Do you use Gumtree at all for the fish ads? When I've used it to rehome the platys I've had a lot of responses in a short time.
I hate gumtree with a passion all I have ever found when advertising is idiots and time wasters

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I had some good results selling tanks and cory and BN's on gumtree.

Yeah i can understand why Ian lol
We have talked about it and have come to the conclusion it must happen in the wild as well, but if we can avoid it then we will try to :)


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I am going to be having a lot of inbreeding going on in the future with my C. Venezuelanus due to the shere numbers I have and not being able to find others to widen the gene pool. Unavoidable really. But I do have 3 of each male and female original cory so at least there will be some diversity in the genes.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 01, 2017, 07:48:35 pm
Lmao Marty
Ian’s guppies are very pretty and colourful :)
Funnily enough it was gumtree where the guy got hold of us for the females. Last time (with the platys and plat-tails) preloved did quite well. But i will agree there are a lot of people who are clueless and just end up wasting your time (or just infuriating you by not reading what you put in the ad)


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Post by: Mol_PMB on October 01, 2017, 08:30:59 pm
Yes, I've had that too!

Especially when the ad clearly says 'collection only from...) and people want the fish to be posted or delivered to them!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 01, 2017, 09:17:36 pm
Lol yep had that, “collection preferred, local delivery can be arranged, postage is NOT an option” and i end up with someone from bournemouth asking can i deliver or post them...
I stopped answering them after a while lol (i dont deal well with stupid people apparently lol)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 01, 2017, 10:34:52 pm
Nom nom?
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Nom nom!
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Nomnomnomnomnomnomnomnom...
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My OH took these pics, SJP seems to prefer her to me, all i get is fins up and tail swinging! Lol


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on October 01, 2017, 10:42:27 pm
Nice. They do love that stuff. I have a couple slices in most days.
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Post by: plankton on October 02, 2017, 08:54:03 am
Nice. It's strange, my guppies don't seem to have problems as you might expect. I expect they get eaten early anyway if there ever are any.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 02, 2017, 09:21:37 pm
First day back at work after a week off, stuck on a single job that has frustrated me for my entire shift and then just before i come home my OH messages me to say i’ve lost one of my male signifers today :(
Not sure what has happened as she couldn’t see any marks or injuries, so no idea what has happened :(
Everyone else is ok, going about business as usual and tests come back all clear.


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Post by: plankton on October 02, 2017, 10:19:43 pm
Sorry for your loss :(
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Post by: Suelo on October 02, 2017, 10:28:05 pm
Sorry to hear about your signifer  :(
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Post by: Calmwaters on October 04, 2017, 08:29:49 am
Sorry for your loss :(
SJP is looking good & really enjoying her greens :D


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Post by: Feliss on October 04, 2017, 11:10:39 am
sorry you lost him :(
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Post by: kas on October 04, 2017, 12:22:58 pm
Sorry to hear that. Not what you needed after a horrible shift. Hopefully today will be better.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 04, 2017, 12:43:26 pm
Thanks guys
First male i’ve lost from my group of signifers. The other 2 males are sparring around quite well.
Also had some fun last night with the 54l, the cucumber i put in for SJP disintegrated (more or less) when i took it out and turned the tank cloudy and didnt seem to clear for quite some time. So emergency change last night to clear it, also had to clear the filter as the flow had reduced on it quite a bit, another possible reason it stayed cloudy :/
Either way both Arnie and SJP are both ok, going about quite happily in a clearer tank :)


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Post by: plankton on October 05, 2017, 12:50:39 pm
I've never had that happen, strange....
Glad they're happy with clean water. :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 05, 2017, 01:01:41 pm
Yeah its a first for me, i’ve had it a bit cloudy after taking broccoli or cauliflower out but thats never lasted more than half hour


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Post by: Stephen on October 09, 2017, 08:45:18 am
First male i’ve lost from my group of signifers. The other 2 males are sparring around quite well.
Also had some fun last night with the 54l, the cucumber i put in for SJP disintegrated (more or less) when i took it out and turned the tank cloudy and didnt seem to clear for quite some time. So emergency change last night to clear it, also had to clear the filter as the flow had reduced on it quite a bit, another possible reason it stayed cloudy :/
Either way both Arnie and SJP are both ok, going about quite happily in a clearer tank :)
Sorry for your loss Iain.
SJP is however looking good. I just wonder when he'll start using the spoon  *mock*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 09, 2017, 09:08:29 am
Thanks Stephen :)
I’ll try and teach her (pretty sure its a she as although shes grown theres no signs of any bristles) but no promises, no guarantees as you know plecs tend to do their own thing (including uprooting one of my crypts! Lol)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 09, 2017, 09:45:09 pm
Had a little move around in my 100l, nothing major just a couple of plants. My echinodorus ozelot leopard had been moved to the 54l as it has recently lost a few of its bigger leaves and is now down to one, so i’ll see if i can grow it back again.
I also moved the crypts at the back of the tank (the ones normally viewable through the wood arch), i’ve put one by the rock where the the echinodorus was, one on the left and one on the right. Shall see how they settle and go now.
I was impressed with the roots on the crypts however, as they seemed to keep coming!
(Possibly the only time a signifer has come up to the camera!)
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Post by: MattHunt on October 10, 2017, 07:16:12 am
Healthy roots!

Your fish look lovely btw.

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 10, 2017, 04:12:49 pm
Sad times today.
We’ve lost Monica :’(
I know she hasn’t been 100% for a while, but she was still going about and eating like a machine. Over the weekend however she has deteriorated and we havent seen her eat properly since about Thursday (she was eating a little over the weekend), but the past two nights shes not bothered at all and has spent all her time hiding at the back of the log. No one has bothered her though which is nice. Today though she was on her side barely moving and was beyond easy to catch with the net, which we know isn’t right, any other time she would’ve been jumping out the water tail slapping us to bugger off!Just sad to see her go downhill so quick.
To say i’m gutted is a very understated way to put things.
A couple of pics of her looking a but better with everyone...
RIP Monica my beautiful alpha female :’(
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Post by: plankton on October 10, 2017, 04:22:35 pm
Sorry you lost her :(
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Post by: Suelo on October 10, 2017, 08:08:47 pm
So sorry to hear you have lost Monica, GL. She was a big character :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 10, 2017, 08:59:56 pm
Thanks both
Its the end of an era, she was one of the first fish we had after setting up our tank and getting things settled and she was the last one remaining from that group, had her nearly 2.5years. She was about 1.5inches when we got her, and around 3-3.5inches. And she never took any crap from anyone! She used to fight with Marsellus, got stuck in the middle of the two honeys/thicklipped females when they had a spat and kicked both their backsides. Seemed like she would only have peace in her tank and if anyone wanted to start anything she would finish it! A true alpha female!
Its also the first time i’ve had to use clove oil, so i’ve felt pretty horrible for most of the day :(


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Post by: Calmwaters on October 10, 2017, 10:57:45 pm
I’m so sorry GL. :(



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Post by: Stephen on October 11, 2017, 08:36:35 pm
So sorry you lost Monica mate  :(
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on October 11, 2017, 09:19:57 pm
I feel for you bud. I still have 5 danios from my first ever fish and dispite everything, I really love them and is horrible whenever one goes to fishy heaven. They are getting old now and I am proud of the life they have had with me as should you be. Over 2 years is a good life for a live barer.
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Post by: Mol_PMB on October 12, 2017, 04:07:05 pm
So sorry to hear. You've done well with her.
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Post by: MattHunt on October 12, 2017, 04:36:20 pm
Sorry.

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Post by: kas on October 13, 2017, 01:33:31 pm
Monica will be missed, and very hard to replace. Sorry you lost her.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 13, 2017, 04:58:51 pm
Thanks everyone
I dont think we’ll ever replace her. I’m not intent on trying either, she was one of a kind. We do still have her sons (Arnie, Carl Wheathers and Jesse Ventura) so she has left a lil bit of a legacy :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 24, 2017, 12:18:23 pm
So little update beings as its been a little while. I’ve set up tank 4 again and moved the majority of the platy babies into there to grow out so we can get them moved on. Theres at least 30 in there now, i caught around 10 yesterday while doing the water changes, but they get smart after a few get caught lol
Funnily enough in the fry tank i pulled the one moss ball apart, by accident initially i was only trying to squeeze it out a bit before putting it back in the tank. This inspired me a little as i managed to make a moss ball bridge out of it which i was rather impressed with :)
But yesterday was a day of clipping back and tidying, which while i was at it sparked me to attempt to make another little cave for Bubba and Stubbs. Using the half coconut  shell a moss ball that i pulled apart a little just to stretch it out a bit, and one of the stones. I then thought i’d add a bit of moss to the top if it will stay (it has so far!) and behold the result (pics). I am very happy with my little creation and both Bubba and Stubbs have scoped it out, although Bubba looked huge inside it. But the dug out cave that mum made definitely wasn’t bigger that this! (I have no idea how Bubba got in there!).
Out of the crypts i moved one seems to be struggling a little but i’m hoping it will pick back up soon enough as it is spawning another leaf already :)
And i cant remember who it was who said about the pleco (SJP) flaring their opercular spines at me, however the other night in front of my mates OH while i’m telling her how SJP likes to threaten me with the tail swing and fins up, next thing you know she just looked like she puffed her cheeks out at me showing off all the tiny little spines. Suffice to say we were amused, i don’t know what i’ve done to SJP (i clean the tank, feed her etc) but she doesn’t like me being around her level lol
saying that Arnie did get a bit close to her algae wafer once and i seen her just arch her back to point her head towards him, to which he shot off instantly lmao
Anyway enough of my babbling, if you’ve read it all well done! Heres some pics and a video of the platy fry (the do look good in a school/shoal). Enjoy :)
The 180l:
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Bubba, Stubbs, Two tone, Pearl’s doppleganger, and a few babies
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Bubba (showing off!) and Stubbs
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Two tone
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Pearl’s doppleganger
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Apisto cave
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The 100l:
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Signifers shoaling and hanging around (for once!)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/e0bf4a25d53c171c58045571e45d8924.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/04b3e83065bcb20cf3f9976fab25cde7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/20dc9facfcbb2ec6fb36f0a557a1f969.jpg)
The 54l:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/2fd937888d2a3b75a2e774479f52b3df.jpg)
SJP doing what SJP does while Arnie drops in!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/bd3b9fa58dc845084947c01c29c2e317.jpg)
Arnie....fighting with his own reflection....(but look at that dorsal fin!)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/810611918c518470ff2ace97e38e570e.jpg)
64l fry tank
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/e9f21e89de635c9dbc43c9d3fb7f4d57.jpg)
Moss bridge :) (you’d never believe that was spotless yesterday!)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171024/3e5ebbddc162466d74b1fd62cd0a8c87.jpg)
Hopefully a little video of the platy fry:
https://youtu.be/kcQbyACP1SI


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Post by: plankton on October 24, 2017, 03:18:44 pm
Very nice Iain.
My BNs all do a runner when I go near the tank.
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Post by: kas on October 24, 2017, 03:45:07 pm
The bridge looks great!! Very creative. I had no idea those little fish could produce all that poo.
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on October 24, 2017, 05:34:45 pm
Looking good, I am always envious of the numbers of platties you seem to be able to save. I only every get a few pop up here and there. I must step up the effort and separate a  big female.
This is the first time I have got to have a good look at the signifiers due to there speed when your taking photos (like my danios) and they are very nice looking fish.
I am glad that SJP is doing well and providing entertainment regularly, mine never seem to do anything entertaining apart from the odd squabble with eachother.
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Post by: Stephen on October 24, 2017, 07:17:25 pm
Great images again Iain  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 25, 2017, 12:48:04 pm
Thanks everyone :)
Kas you’d be amazed the mess they make, they just dont stop especially when young.
N the signifers are a pain to photograph as you say due to their speed, i was just lucky they we’re hanging around in the filter flow for a change lol with regards to the fry, we haven’t done anything this time, its been survive if you can, but theres only the adult platys and Bubba and Stubbs in there so they didnt get to too many by the seems of it. We’re only separating them now to stop any potential males getting at the females again.


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Post by: Calmwaters on October 26, 2017, 12:24:08 am
Very ingenious work with the moss GL. All is looking good :D



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 11, 2017, 09:32:49 pm
Nothing too much going on lately. Everything is ticking over nicely. I’m quite pleased with the 100l since moving a couple of crypts about, theres also a few more baby java ferns floating about but my crypt forest has seemed to have grown back a bit :)
Also been trying to catch something random about our lil bub see if you can see it :)
Anyway heres a few random pics :)

Bubba
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/c42360cea5e1c3848452619bbf1ee367.jpg)
Stubbs
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/2295565401eaf6bb9dbdad559ace9ea3.jpg)
The female platys and some of the remaining fry i havent caught yet
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/6b953b4c90a1f8be086996615191d49a.jpg)
Platy boys and Jesse (on the right)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/5ae292ff7950ce9dda5945dacb362e70.jpg)
Our lil bub (still unamed otherwise) and a female signifer
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/cf58dd8bea69d8f1251272aaab39f065.jpg)
Lil bub looking fabulous
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/ddd2895cb7e5d5f32f860e879f037227.jpg)
Ventral fin...all im saying
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/c05e3caa00a4464efeac11829b037ffb.jpg)
Our “honey”
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/cfa02c5f5c7c6f149fa4e47ee3bf6abc.jpg)
100l full shot
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/29b97afe9d08f4593769133f3d685c6d.jpg)
Crypt forest with lil bub and a male signifer :)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/cd03b9283d88399695efd57d6cce9c4d.jpg)
SJP (I managed to get these!)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/6d96495f2f9dff4923a069e90021c588.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/0d7801cf4e67f42d9b5874dcf103d9ff.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/21575b7d1084b06dc251bbfe410b8b02.jpg)
Arnie
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/4c418c5f6c12fcb5f1f7aab81985c08c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171111/a1194185ec219e55b78993154d0e14dd.jpg)



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Post by: Suelo on November 11, 2017, 10:26:53 pm
Nice pics, & glad everything's ticking along nicely.

I'm not really knowing much about Apistos - is Bub getting more colour on that fin?
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Post by: kas on November 11, 2017, 11:02:04 pm
The Apistos look great thumbsup
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 12, 2017, 02:05:52 am
Thanks both :)
Nice pics, & glad everything's ticking along nicely.

I'm not really knowing much about Apistos - is Bub getting more colour on that fin?

If you look when he faces left his left ventral fin is patterned like his tail and other fins (first two pics) in the second 2 pics you can see his right hand ventral fin (its the one on the left underside of the 4th pic of him, which has coloured up with a yellow and purpley/pinky colour. He such a colourful little fish although he is growing :)
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Post by: WBT12 on November 12, 2017, 07:23:24 am
Gorgeous set up. Lovely fish you have too...
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Post by: chesterjohn on November 12, 2017, 09:26:24 am
The yellow/pink fin is pretty. Not an angle you see a lot though.

Looks good :)
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Post by: plankton on November 12, 2017, 09:28:01 am
Lovely fish Iain. :)
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Post by: Ruth on November 12, 2017, 11:19:25 am
Looking well there!  Gorgeous Apisto x


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 12, 2017, 07:46:41 pm
Thanks all :)
The yellow/pink fin is pretty. Not an angle you see a lot though.

Looks good :)

It is an unusual angle, I was more shocked that i got it lol he has a tendancy to follow the camera (or me) around the tank without staying in focus making him fun to photograph lately lol
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Post by: Calmwaters on November 14, 2017, 02:09:25 am
All looking good GL. Great shots particularly of SJP, Arnie & Bub. :D


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 14, 2017, 04:21:03 am
All looking good GL. Great shots particularly of SJP, Arnie & Bub. :D


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Thanks CW :)
Which bub btw? Big or little? ;)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 17, 2017, 12:53:49 am
SJP this evening....
https://youtu.be/ft5YcUXJ-qU

I don’t need to say anymore.....
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Post by: MattHunt on November 17, 2017, 07:12:00 am
You can almost see the thought bubble.

Mine!

Mine!!

MIIINNNE!!!

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Post by: kas on November 17, 2017, 07:59:35 am
That looked delicious. Nom, nom  *grin*
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Post by: plankton on November 17, 2017, 08:27:18 am
My albinos are similar, the browns just nibble, disappear and then return later to do the same.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 24, 2017, 12:05:02 am
Well i had to open my mouth...
Nothing too bad (fortunately) but my one female signifer (the biggest one oddly enough) has a injury/mark just behind her pectoral fin. Shes ok still eating and swimming with the group, been adding a drop of melafix and she does look as if she’s recovering (quickly as well thankfully).
This did make us wonder what might’ve happened and then we see lil bub shying away from the “honey”, not the other way around for a change (he seems to enjoy moving her at feeding time), and then it was when we seen her turn on him (not massively but enough). So plan into action we moved her to the 180l, hoping to calm her.....
Nope! she started on Bubba! Who amazingly did NOT take a chunk out of her.
So shifted her again to the 54l, where she did chase Arnie a little....until he did the typical livebearer thing and decide he was going to try and mate with her, either way she showed a little less interest in him then and took and interest in SJP.
Bad idea, SJP naturally fins on end, tail swinging, kept the honey at bay for a little bit but the honeys interest was a little too much and she got too close...SJP launched.... and got Arnie! Lol
To be fair mind the honey has calmed right down since, and aside from the signifer there are no injuries besides :)
So for all the attitudes, our new Don of the tanks appears to be SJP lol


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Post by: plankton on November 24, 2017, 07:33:10 am
BNs rule, ok? *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 24, 2017, 08:32:12 am
Lol so it seems Ian, and i dont think it matters if its ok SJP will make it ok lmao


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Post by: plankton on November 24, 2017, 10:05:11 am
The brown female I put in the guppy/panda tank appears to have settled very quickly, mind you, there's a lot of algae in there, more than I realised...... *rolleyes*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 24, 2017, 12:02:34 pm
Lol she’ll be a big brown fat looking female before you know it and there wont be a spot of algae in sight...thats assuming she would be anything like SJP on a munch mission (still cant believe it was 2 days! If that!)


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on November 24, 2017, 03:01:39 pm
Even I don't mess with my BN's, let alone the other fish. They are definitely the boss species.
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Post by: Ruth on November 25, 2017, 11:54:55 am
Sunny, my BN was a favourite of a little boy I tutored in maths and English.  He had ASD and the fish became such a source of relaxation and joy for him when he came to my house!  He used to watch Sunny (back when he actually left his bogwood!). He did all the voices in the tank!  Sunny was like ... “MOVE MOVE OUTTA MY WAY!!” and the others were like...
“Argggggggh swim!!  Sunny’s coming!!”

BNs are just like bulldozers.  Wish he would come out more tho.  Is this what happens when they get older?  He’s about 4 now.


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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on November 25, 2017, 08:03:48 pm
My 2 older females come out a lot less than they used to but are still out occasionally, especially if there is some nice food for them near there bogwood.
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Post by: plankton on November 26, 2017, 09:24:50 am
Females are generally out more often than males anyway, but they do get lazier as they get older.
I have found (with males) that they tend to start coming out again more often in the last 3 or 4 months of their lives........
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Post by: Ruth on November 26, 2017, 11:14:09 am
Females are generally out more often than males anyway, but they do get lazier as they get older.
I have found (with males) that they tend to start coming out again more often in the last 3 or 4 months of their lives........
How bitter/sweet!!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 02, 2017, 12:43:53 am
Glad i did the water changes yesterday, our boiler decided its had enough last night...so its been a fun day trying to get that sorted, and we cant get it sorted until monday.
Anyway besides the point, my female signifer has seemed to have healed up a bit more, still not completely back to normal but shes getting there, still not shy either still spends all day floating about with the group or cruising about singly (like the rest) and shes still eating well, so its not bothering here apparently.
Everyone else is doing well, the “honey” has calmed right down and her and Arnie seem to have periods of cruising around together. Our lil bub (still unamed lol) has also grown, he’s getting broader in his body and from nose to base of tail he’s now around 40mm (i was lucky enough he stopped in front of a tape at the front of the tank for me to get a rough idea) he’s coming up for 7months old (next week). The platy babies are now ready for rehoming so we’re going to get them moving now.
I do have some pics but i’ll post them up tomorrow or something. For now enjoy (hopefully) a short (it is short!) video of SJP threating me lol
https://youtu.be/8rd9aKMYSAk
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 02, 2017, 10:32:25 am
And a few pics as promised :)

180l:
Full tank
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/db314a22d81e11472e7f06e296f4a9e8.jpg)
Everyone messing around in the java ferns (a few big new ones at the top there)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/382efab37e038b40002e9102d201a9ce.jpg)
Stubbs and half’n’half (and a little one photobombing!)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/3d67a0754ab5a31183d3eb57ea3b8d2f.jpg)
Stubbs looking very yellowy
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/4df409b32ea044e8dc34307bdf445b06.jpg)
100l:
Full tank (think i need some new thermometers/suckers for them)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/1b1f0bde761c693f2dd45cd7cc5afce1.jpg)
Carl and Jesse (Carl is definitely Monicas son!)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/18f18efb3ad9f6c2c88cb4de6af2a0c4.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/2d1e4128a955fb4d78ed20537c2e1aeb.jpg)
Signifer trio
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/e0ba5682f29aa5415ddf588f074ada20.jpg)
Lil bub and a couple of signifers (lil bub still hangs around with them :) )
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/437e78683e29fe3f965fae4b6d9b103a.jpg)
Lil bub (right hand side, the ventral fin!)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/805e42f03f9a38fbfc4016131f7fd377.jpg)
Almost everyone
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/ad4e2ab019711fd961564850eb0a077e.jpg)
54l:
Full tank
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/8dfab3da6c41ca3a3b3afb0b69263a38.jpg)
“Honey” cruising about
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/0bac4b2b81284db6028fd644c1475f42.jpg)
Arnie
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/050933909ed7a5b8b8a1657dd460bef3.jpg)
And of course SJP :) (my OH has become really fond of her considering she wasn’t that fussed to start)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/bfbf635005faaa646f41c47ca2d59799.jpg)
Around the same time as the video...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171202/c4b82f03279360cf4176014a1ba220e3.jpg)




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Post by: plankton on December 02, 2017, 10:51:24 am
Cool. :)
That fin is definitely original! ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 02, 2017, 10:56:02 am
I know! No idea where the colours came from! Bubba’s have a more bluey tinge to the edges of his and they’re more clear nearer the body, and mum was just yellow constantly lol


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Post by: Ruth on December 02, 2017, 10:58:12 am
Looking good there!


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Post by: Welsh neil on December 02, 2017, 11:04:24 am
Lovely looking tanks and fish there Gingerlove05  *wales*
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Post by: Stephen on December 03, 2017, 07:24:50 pm
Very nice Iain  *grin*
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Post by: Siege on December 03, 2017, 07:27:28 pm
Really really smart.

Plants looking good and fish are brilliant colours.

 *grin*  *cheers*
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Post by: Suelo on December 03, 2017, 09:14:12 pm
Nice pics Iain! Also, hope you manage to get boiler sorted.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 03, 2017, 11:44:11 pm
Thanks all :)
Hopefully we’ll get the boiler sorted tomorrow, just been a cold and awkward weekend working round not having heating and hot water :/


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Post by: Calmwaters on December 07, 2017, 08:23:47 pm
All looking good GL. I hope you’ve got heating & hot water back on again now. 


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 07, 2017, 08:45:59 pm
Thanks CW :)
Yeah heating and central heating got sorted yesterday! Plumb centre were a useless bunch of *insert insult of choice* (i have a few choice words for them!), the plumbers are taking out a huge complaint against them because its caused them so much hassle. It was the PCB (printed circuit board) and for whatever reason they had a single digit wrong for our PCB (a 7 instead of a 1) and disbelieved the plumber on the phone about it. Either way if its across the entire of plumb centre anyone with he same boiler as us could have the same issue.
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Post by: Calmwaters on December 07, 2017, 09:13:33 pm
Sounds like a nightmare!!! Glad you’ve got it all sorted now though. It’s getting a bit chilly ;)


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Post by: plankton on December 08, 2017, 08:40:35 am
Keep those fish nice and warm..... ;)
Glad you're sorted. :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 10, 2017, 11:42:26 pm
Bit of a random thing, not really an update. Is this water lettuce flowering?
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on December 10, 2017, 11:47:25 pm
Certainly is,  *applause*
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Post by: WBT12 on December 11, 2017, 07:12:53 am
Well, thanks to this Ive learnt something new. Didnt realise Floating Lettuce flowered. Lucky you. Bet it looks cool.
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Post by: plankton on December 11, 2017, 08:47:29 am
Very nice, haven't seen the flowers before. :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 11, 2017, 11:13:07 am
Well, thanks to this Ive learnt something new. Didnt realise Floating Lettuce flowered. Lucky you. Bet it looks cool.
Thanks :)
Neither did I, was only when i was doing changes i noticed it, theres a couple of the large pieces that have the flowers on them :)
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Post by: Ruth on December 11, 2017, 10:38:46 pm
 *applause*. Super cool!   *applause*
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Post by: Feliss on December 12, 2017, 09:30:00 pm
Oh wow that is awesome! Well done :D
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Post by: WBT12 on December 12, 2017, 11:08:43 pm
In a tiny 30l and with the speed it grows none of mine would ever get big enough to flower... haha...

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 12, 2017, 11:18:50 pm
Lol its only in a 64l, i think its just the amount of light it gets as the fry tank is left on all day (depending on when i get up/get in from work)


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Post by: MattHunt on December 13, 2017, 11:39:19 am
Very pretty!

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 18, 2017, 11:57:21 pm
Not much of an update atm, I’ll do one tomorrow and try and get some decent pics. I did however get a good pic of our little bub (still no name for him yet! Lol). He’s getting to around 45mm nose to base of tail, and his body is broadening. The thing i cant get over besides the colour is the filiments on the tips of all his fins!
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Post by: WBT12 on December 19, 2017, 12:01:21 am
Wow, he's a beaut... me likes them too...
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Post by: Suelo on December 19, 2017, 12:04:18 am
He is stunning!
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Post by: plankton on December 19, 2017, 09:16:41 am
He's very macho!
The fin intrigues me......was mum a normal, plain yellow?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 19, 2017, 11:00:09 am
Mum was yellow 90% of the time we had her, but all three 3 females were (sold as) orange females whereas Bubba is (sold as) a double red.
Mum had nearly all black ventral fins.
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Post by: Ruth on December 19, 2017, 06:15:09 pm
He’s a handsome chap!  He’ll break lil fishy hearts all round the tank!


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Post by: plankton on December 20, 2017, 09:47:42 am
That's some genetic throw-back then......
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 20, 2017, 03:48:28 pm
Lost my big female signifer this afternoon :(
She had been recovering from her initial injury fairly well, then around 2 days ago noticed another mark just below her dorsal fin. So i dosed again with melafix as none of the others showed any signs of anything and she was still staying with the group and eating well, the mark had started to fade by yesterday. Checked this morning all 5 present in their usual morning shoaling formation. Went out and came back and my OH noticed she could only see 4...found her just at the back of the tank, a bit chewed on :(
Usual routine has applied (testing and water change) nothing untoward or unusual besides, so i’m guessing whatever was wrong finally got the better of her. I shall be keeping my eye on the others over the next few weeks just in case.
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Post by: Ruth on December 20, 2017, 04:24:26 pm
Aww.  Sorry to hear that.


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Post by: WBT12 on December 20, 2017, 04:44:06 pm
Thats a real shame. Sorry to hear.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 20, 2017, 04:49:50 pm
Thanks guys
My OH pointed out the original injury could have been the gourami when she went off the rails and started on everyone. But i cant remember exactly when it occured. But theres another possibility but no definitive answer :/
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Post by: Suelo on December 20, 2017, 06:08:49 pm
Sorry you lost her  :(
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Post by: _pjn312_ on December 20, 2017, 06:41:13 pm
Sorry for your loss :(
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Post by: plankton on December 20, 2017, 07:01:44 pm
Sorry you lost her :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 21, 2017, 03:10:21 pm
!?&@&££??!!::/()&?£:)/£@&!,.:()!!!! (Insert appropriate curse here!)
I’ve just found another female signifer in a mess :( i have absolutely no idea what is happening here right now but something is going on in my 100l that im not seeing or finding! Came in from nights this morning and checked everyone all ok, dosed the ferts and went to bed. Got up and found this mess! Apparently my fish dont want me to sleep or take my eyes off them ever!
So im now down to 3, 2m and 1f who are all currently cruising the top of the tank happily, but theres nothing i can see wrong with any of them :/
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Post by: Suelo on December 21, 2017, 03:59:14 pm
So sorry to hear you lost another one. :(

I feel your pain. It's awful losing them when you can't even work out why  :(
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Post by: hatchetboy on December 21, 2017, 04:09:34 pm
Oh no! Hope you get to the bottom of it soon!
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Post by: _pjn312_ on December 21, 2017, 04:14:34 pm
So sorry for all your losses, hopefully they will be okay now :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 21, 2017, 04:22:42 pm
Thanks all
I hope we find out soon, its strange because nothing bothers the signifers other than the signifers and they’ve never been that boisterous with the females as the males spend more time sparring at each other for the attention. And there was nothing outwardly or obviously wrong with her. Going to have to keep a very close eye on it all
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Post by: plankton on December 22, 2017, 08:04:58 am
Can you remind me what they're in with (I confuse easily ;) )?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 22, 2017, 08:51:34 am
Its the 100l so they’re with:
Lil bub (the apisto)
2 plattails (Carl and Jesse)
3 platys

Dont worry i get your confusion Ian, it doesnt help that i just babble lol
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Post by: plankton on December 22, 2017, 09:59:17 am
Then it could be any of them getting stroppy.
Lil Bub and plattails would be favourites.....or exactly the opposite. ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 22, 2017, 11:39:10 am
We did wonder whether anyone is/has been picking them off, but as a general rule (as far as i’ve seen) no one has ever had an issue with them so we havent been able to really point a finger at anyone particular.
Either way currently i’ve managed a night shift and a couple of hour nap with out losing another! So doing better than yesterday lol
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Post by: plankton on December 22, 2017, 10:50:40 pm
You never see it Iain. I didn't see what happened to my black angel, but I knew someone had had a go and then the body was eaten.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 22, 2017, 10:57:16 pm
Too true, you only ever seem to find the result, if you even find that. I’m sure it was my last (maybe last but 1) CPD that just disappeared, i’ve never found any sign of them. My OH was mortified, in my head im going “thats nature”, not that the thought makes it any easier lol
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Post by: plankton on December 22, 2017, 11:45:20 pm
I know, I've just lost a bentosi from one tank, and one of the new flames in the q-tank, goodness knows why the bentosi went, but it was behind the filter, and, considering it's a corner filter, that's a very strange thing to find.....the flame I think was probably eggbound, she was very fat. I get a lot of eggbound female tetras and gourami.....weird.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 23, 2017, 12:21:31 am
Sorry for your losses :(
You do seem to have a lot of stubborn female tetras from what i’ve seen, they just dont seem to want to release their eggs. The bentosi must’ve done something special to end up behind a corner filter, i’ve seen mine do some impressive moves and get themselves wedged behind the filter but mine all attach on one side only.
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Post by: Ruth on December 23, 2017, 11:16:57 am
Oh that’s wick!  What age are the fish?  Can these things happen as they mature?  Just thinking out loud here.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 23, 2017, 11:40:12 am
Not sure Ruth, i got them February(?) this year, same time as the apistos. They were quite small then and they have grown well since. It could just be that i was unlucky and lost 2, i was sort of expecting one although she did look like she was recovering, the other may have just been her time. They do have short life spans (like a lot of small fish) and i’m sure i read somewhere that some females might only go through one spawning season in their life.
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Post by: Ruth on December 23, 2017, 11:53:13 am
Not sure Ruth, i got them February(?) this year, same time as the apistos. They were quite small then and they have grown well since. It could just be that i was unlucky and lost 2, i was sort of expecting one although she did look like she was recovering, the other may have just been her time. They do have short life spans (like a lot of small fish) and i’m sure i read somewhere that some females might only go through one spawning season in their life.
Hmm. Something similar happened to me with Killifish a few years ago.  I think they are pretty short lived too.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 24, 2017, 01:21:08 am
Platys anyone?
A couple of random pics from the fry tank, the blue light bulb in the top really reflects off the blue platys.
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Post by: WBT12 on December 24, 2017, 01:27:58 am
Looking very nice GL. Liking your F. Lettuce too.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 24, 2017, 01:41:18 am
Thanks :) theres only the big bits that were left over after i sent out to everyone, found a few more java ferns in the 180l earlier so they got chucked in there earlier as well (theres one floating about in the one pic)
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Post by: Ruth on December 24, 2017, 03:53:34 am
That blue is amazing - my favourite colour!


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Post by: plankton on December 24, 2017, 10:50:43 am
Very nice pics Iain. :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 26, 2017, 02:46:06 pm
SJP keeping Arnie and the “honey” at bay from her wafer (more or less lol) last night, funny thing is shes the one that put it there!
https://youtu.be/2k20KvpArlQ
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on December 26, 2017, 03:11:23 pm
Loving the video she is a big girl now.
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Post by: Ruth on December 26, 2017, 04:18:49 pm
She’s a big unit!!  Lol!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 26, 2017, 07:04:35 pm
Shes grown a bit! Lol Here’s just after we got her, the 1st December (thats the same hook), and tonight (the hook bit is just above right of her head).
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Post by: _pjn312_ on December 26, 2017, 07:37:36 pm
Wow! What have you been feeding her?! *grin*
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Post by: WBT12 on December 26, 2017, 07:59:38 pm
Ooo... she is lovely...
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Post by: Ruth on December 26, 2017, 08:11:40 pm
Altogether for a Mika song ..... Big girl, you are beautiful!  La la la....


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 26, 2017, 08:47:31 pm
Ruth why? Why mika! Lmao
Wow! What have you been feeding her?! *grin*
Bear in mind we got her at the end of August (1st pic) not at the start of December (2nd pic, only just read it back, might be confusing lol). But mostly hikari wafers and fresh veg  *grin*
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Post by: WBT12 on December 26, 2017, 09:07:31 pm
Could have been worse... hahaha...

Queen's Big Bottomed Girls... hahaha...
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Post by: Ruth on December 26, 2017, 10:10:23 pm
Ruth why? Why mika! Lmao
Wow! What have you been feeding her?! *grin*
Bear in mind we got her at the end of August (1st pic) not at the start of December (2nd pic, only just read it back, might be confusing lol). But mostly hikari wafers and fresh veg  *grin*

https://youtu.be/yDSK91mUNLU

Lolololololololololol!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 26, 2017, 11:19:28 pm
Could have been worse... hahaha...

Queen's Big Bottomed Girls... hahaha...

Fat bottomed girls ;) but thats a much better suggestion lol

Ruth why? Why mika! Lmao
Wow! What have you been feeding her?! *grin*
Bear in mind we got her at the end of August (1st pic) not at the start of December (2nd pic, only just read it back, might be confusing lol). But mostly hikari wafers and fresh veg  *grin*

https://youtu.be/yDSK91mUNLU

Lolololololololololol!


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I’m not thanking you for that lmao
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Post by: plankton on December 27, 2017, 11:58:36 am
They do grow quite quickly. The albinos seem to grow twice as fast as the browns......???
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 27, 2017, 12:26:07 pm
Your telling me! But thats fine as long as she doesn’t outgrow the tanks i have lol
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Post by: plankton on December 27, 2017, 12:34:41 pm
Should only get to about 4" (without tail) ;)
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Post by: Ruth on December 27, 2017, 02:40:26 pm
My lazygoodfornuthin male BN is about 4 inches. 


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 28, 2017, 09:44:24 pm
Ok so log update. Since in the signifers last week, everything has been quiet. I’ve adjusted the flow in the 180l so the water lettuce all stays on one side of the tank which gives a nice ripple effect on the back and wood as the light goes from one side to the other. My echinodorus rose has seemed to have thanked me for it by spawning some new leaves and spreading out. A couple of the java ferns have also grown forked leaves a couple of double forks and one which has gone 3 ways :) i’ve also added another baby java fern to the log, in the middle at the front.
Also adjusted the flow a little in both the 100l and the 54l, the remaining female signifer seems to enjoy swimming in the outlet flow in the 100l when shes not hanging around her male counterparts. Only other change really is i’ve adjusted the position of the wood arch in front of the filter in the 54l, so its no longer leaning against the filter. SJP doesn’t seem to mind either way lol
Bubba and Stubbs have been flirting, well Bubba more than Stubbs. He has put on some fantastic displays and it’s heartbreaking to see the display for nothing more to happen. At least they’re happy with each other besides :)
Anyway heres some pics and a couple of links for a couple of videos.
The 180:
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The happy couple :)
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Pearl
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Group shot
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Echinodorus spread out
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Java fern forks (you can only just see the 3 way split one, last pic
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Video :)
https://youtu.be/olTg1XBNyTc
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 28, 2017, 09:50:52 pm
The 100l:
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Double trouble
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Our oldest male and Jesse
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Lil bub chilling by the dragon (photo of bubba for comparison)
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Jesse
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Video :)
https://youtu.be/Z0F7bVh1X9A

The 54l:
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Arnie (looking fabulous!)
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The “honey” and SJP (who randomly appeared as i toom the pic)
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The “honey”

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 29, 2017, 12:18:05 am
A couple i forgot of Akoya and Dolphie’s daughter :)
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Post by: _pjn312_ on December 29, 2017, 06:58:16 am
Your tanks and fish look stunning :) you can really see the effort you've put in. Glad to hear things in the tanks are going well. Well done!
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Post by: plankton on December 29, 2017, 10:18:06 am
Very nice Iain. :)
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Post by: Ruth on December 29, 2017, 01:54:20 pm
Looking good there!!


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Post by: Suelo on December 29, 2017, 02:01:11 pm
Fish and tanks looking great  *grin*
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Post by: WBT12 on December 29, 2017, 02:27:24 pm
Lovely pix
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 03, 2018, 12:07:14 am
A (relatively) calm 180l this evening after feeding, only PITA is the little yellow/red wagtail (whos one of males im struggling to catch). I did catch 8/9 of them the other day by using a transport bag spread out in the tank, a few curious ones just swam straight in :)
Anyway heres a video:
https://youtu.be/XjQ8dZJOSq0
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Post by: plankton on January 03, 2018, 09:06:56 am
That's quite a calm tank now.
Bub made me giggle just going backwards and forwards in the same place at the front...... ;)
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Post by: Suelo on January 03, 2018, 09:08:12 am
It is quite calm now. I can't get over though, how BIG your platies are!
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Post by: Ruth on January 03, 2018, 10:07:26 am
That looks well - everyone looks nice and chilled.  Are those plants growing on your bogwood?


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 03, 2018, 10:41:01 am
That's quite a calm tank now.
Bub made me giggle just going backwards and forwards in the same place at the front...... ;)

Yeah he’s a funny character, probably still scouting round for food, although Stubbs was about under the log.

It is quite calm now. I can't get over though, how BIG your platies are!
Thats one of our shocks we have some quite big girls, you have Pearl and her doppelgänger daughter (blue wagtails) Akoya (the huge blue one) and Dolphie’s daughter (silver and red wagtail) who are massive! Akoya is by far the biggest, she almost has a rainbowfish shape to her (tiny head, massive body).

That looks well - everyone looks nice and chilled.  Are those plants growing on your bogwood?

Yep thats the java fern forrest, i just wedged them into little nooks and crevices when i planted them and they have gone wild since :) even had a few plantlets that i have added around other parts of the wood.
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Post by: Ruth on January 03, 2018, 11:13:29 am
That’s great!  I might try that too!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 03, 2018, 03:02:55 pm
Yeah i got lucky an managed to wedge them in, otherwise i would’ve had to have glued them (Superglue! ;) ) on. But there are some plants that need planting on wood instead of the substrate (java fern, anubias) as the rhizome (a long green root that all the leaves come from) can rot if its buried :)


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Post by: Ruth on January 03, 2018, 03:37:30 pm
Yeah i got lucky an managed to wedge them in, otherwise i would’ve had to have glued them (Superglue! ;) ) on. But there are some plants that need planting on wood instead of the substrate (java fern, anubias) as the rhizome (a long green root that all the leaves come from) can rot if its buried :)


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aHEMreefglueAHEM. AHEM!!

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Post by: plankton on January 03, 2018, 08:13:19 pm
Yeah i got lucky an managed to wedge them in, otherwise i would’ve had to have glued them (Superglue! ;) ) on. But there are some plants that need planting on wood instead of the substrate (java fern, anubias) as the rhizome (a long green root that all the leaves come from) can rot if its buried :)


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aHEMreefglueAHEM. AHEM!!

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Probably too much reef glue....... :P *giggle*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 03, 2018, 08:31:10 pm
Roflmao


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Post by: Ruth on January 03, 2018, 09:41:14 pm
Lol!!  The fumes!!  THE FUMES!!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 03, 2018, 11:57:10 pm
So all the displaying might not be for nothing after all. Dont know how well you can see it from the pics (phones not the best at depth preception), but from my initial angle i thought Stubbs was just on the gravel, untili walked over....
Bubba seems to be patrolling, not bothering anyone but definitely doing rounds, and watching Stubbs before going off on another round. And she has been looking more yellow the past few days, not as luminous as “Mum” apisto was but definitely bright.
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Post by: hotashes on January 04, 2018, 11:13:49 pm
Great log GL, just managed to read it all.  Was worth it though.  Come on bubba have some more fry with stubbs so I can have a look in.  I may well hunt some double red dwarfs cacs




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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 04, 2018, 11:42:52 pm
Thanks Ash, glad you managed to make sense of my babbling (and put up with it for that matter lol).
My OH is planning one getting another 2 females, 1 for Bubba and one for lil bub (gotta name him as well!). She really wants to breed lil bub, so i’ve got to get the platys moving  *blink*
But she has totally fallen in love with the apistos :)
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Post by: hotashes on January 04, 2018, 11:54:03 pm
You and the O/H with apistos and me with Ellioti, maybe a partnership is on the horizon ha ha..  I must admit, during my recent move I have purposely set up camp for the Ellioti from what I knew they liked when the last laid.  You've really got me liking the apistos though......  They will look goon in my 5' community tank ;)




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Post by: WBT12 on January 05, 2018, 12:04:43 am
I love Aspo's too. Always have. Wonder if my set up could handle a pair?

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 05, 2018, 12:14:29 am
Quite possibly, its just upgrading and closing tanks down so we have the room for one big enough for the ellioti  *grin*
The apistos are very pretty fish, and they have some character (and the males have huge mouths for their size!). Last time ours bred mum apisto dug out an entire cave under a rock! So they can be quite clever and practical as well :)
 
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 05, 2018, 12:15:45 am
I love Aspo's too. Always have. Wonder if my set up could handle a pair?

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Maybe not with shrimp, although you have a new tank tofill dont you? What were you planning?
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Post by: hotashes on January 05, 2018, 12:18:57 am
Quite possibly, its just upgrading and closing tanks down so we have the room for one big enough for the ellioti  *grin*
The apistos are very pretty fish, and they have some character (and the males have huge mouths for their size!). Last time ours bred mum apisto dug out an entire cave under a rock! So they can be quite clever and practical as well :)


Noted...  That dreaded cave that collapsed on her.....  Sod's law




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Post by: WBT12 on January 05, 2018, 12:23:51 am
6 Congo Tetra
6 Rainbow. Either Boesemani or possibly Red
2 Ellioti

3x Platydoras armatulus
3x Megalechis thorocata (Hoplo's)

2 Bristlenose Catfish
6 Brochis splendens (Emerald Catfish)
2 Giant Whiptail (Sturisomatichthys Aureus)
6 Upside Down Catfish (Syno Nigriventris)

This my final list... sort of... well, maybe... haha

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 05, 2018, 12:49:59 am

Noted...  That dreaded cave that collapsed on her..... Sod’s law
Unfortunately :( but we learn from it so i’ll try my best to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

6 Congo Tetra
6 Rainbow. Either Boesemani or possibly Red
2 Ellioti

3x Platydoras armatulus
3x Megalechis thorocata (Hoplo's)

2 Bristlenose Catfish
6 Brochis splendens (Emerald Catfish)
2 Giant Whiptail (Sturisomatichthys Aureus)
6 Upside Down Catfish (Syno Nigriventris)

This my final list... sort of... well, maybe... haha

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Thats quite a list lol (i know what i’m doing with my morning coffee!)
Its like I said to NewbieFishkeeper, i’d be very weary keeping the ellioti and the apistos together. As calm as mine are they only have the platys and signifers to deal with, mixing cichlids is a different matter. And the apistos being bottom dwellers (although mine quite happily go around the tank) you’d have to watch any other bottom dwellers if they breed or pick territory. They were really good parents and very defensive, if mum left to chase Bubba would move into the vicinity of the fry and guard them. When mum returned the rest of the fish had to get past Bubba guarding, chasing and flaring if anyone got too close.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 05, 2018, 11:42:10 am
Bubba’s other son, Newbie and my lil bubs’ brother  *grin*
My mate from work, his mum has him, so I requested a couple of photos and she was kind enough to oblige :)

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 06, 2018, 05:35:38 pm
SJP - “you cant see me!”

Err....
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Post by: WBT12 on January 06, 2018, 07:13:59 pm
Hahaha...

He is a beaut...

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Post by: Ruth on January 06, 2018, 08:11:30 pm
I think I heard a BN say “Hubba Hubba!”  From his new tank!

She’s a pretty girl x


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 06, 2018, 09:28:16 pm
Hahaha...

He is a beaut...

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SJP (Sarah Jessica Parker...blame my OH! Poor fish!) is a girl/lady and wont appreciate you saying otherwise (although she’d probably still prefer you to me lol)
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Post by: WBT12 on January 06, 2018, 10:04:04 pm
Haha... soz GL. Did mean She... honest...

Love the name.... er not... hahaha...

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Post by: plankton on January 07, 2018, 10:59:20 am
My BNs are all growing at different rates. The albino in the Trigon is massive (male), the brown female isn't growing half as quickly, but is growing ok.
The albino in the "cory" tank is growing, I think it's a female, but not as fast as the brown (who I also think is female) in the "guppy" tank. he was the last to be moved from the q-tank as I couldn't catch her. Strange.......
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 07, 2018, 12:25:05 pm
Its like different fry from the same batch, some grow much faster and bigger than the others, although i’ve seen some fry have a growth spurt then stop and some of the smaller ones have overtaken them :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 07, 2018, 01:34:38 pm
Although this maybe part of the reason why ;)
And i dont know shes trying to fool...lol
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 09, 2018, 04:19:40 pm
Lost my last female signifer today :(
My OH found her this afternoon (im nights again! Which is the only time this seems to happen). The two males are ok just going about gently, think they are a bit lost with no one to display to.
Still dont know what’s happened with them, and it’s frustrating just throwing theories around in my head  :mad:
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Post by: _pjn312_ on January 09, 2018, 04:24:29 pm
So sorry about your loss :(
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Post by: Suelo on January 09, 2018, 04:33:44 pm
Sorry you lost her Iain  :(
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Post by: hotashes on January 09, 2018, 05:45:07 pm
Sad times Iain.  Would be good to know what's causing the deaths!!!




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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 09, 2018, 06:23:31 pm
Yeah i’d love to know. Its only been the females though, so i dont know if its the males being over aggro when displaying, or if its lil bub having a fit, we only realised the other day that with the 100l and the 180l next to each other that he can probably see Bubba and Stubbs. We have noticed him really colour up at the left hand side (the 180l side) showing all his fins and his trademark arrow shaped lateral line. But not seen him chase anyone when like this.
Either way i may have to block off that side...
(You see the issue with my mind running wild with ideas :/ )
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Post by: WBT12 on January 09, 2018, 06:51:55 pm
Oh no GL... So sorry to hear.

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Post by: Ruth on January 09, 2018, 08:08:43 pm
Aw sorry to hear that.  When things aren’t right it plus on your mind.


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Post by: KevB on January 09, 2018, 09:48:44 pm
Sorry to hear of your loss, can't really offer any insight as I've never tried any of the Pseudomugil's though I was tempted a couple of times. In the end I opted for the celebes as a small shoaling type rather than blue eyes, they looked a bit more robust.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 10, 2018, 09:34:16 am
Thanks everyone.
I know your a bit better with your bigger bows Kev ;)
I might hunt around for p.furcatus and see if i can source some. They tend to be a bit bigger than a few of the other pseudomugils. I think i also thought about the celebes for our 180l but opted against it as its only just 3ft long and i wasnt sure it would be long enough for them (although i may be confusing myself right now), but the 100l definitely isnt long enough as its only 80cm long (as i say i might be confusing my species here as i looked at so many rainbows at one point lol)
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Post by: plankton on January 10, 2018, 11:02:14 am
Sorry for your loss. :(
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Post by: KevB on January 10, 2018, 11:28:39 am
Yes a 3 footer might be pushing it a bit for celebes, thay are pretty active and the males get up to 6cm, maybe a bit bigger. I'm sure I saw P furcatus for a while last year at MA in Wheatcrofts (now Notcutts) in Nottm but they arent a common stock item.
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Post by: Stephen on January 10, 2018, 10:28:28 pm
Lost my last female signifer today :(
My OH found her this afternoon (im nights again! Which is the only time this seems to happen). The two males are ok just going about gently, think they are a bit lost with no one to display to.
Still dont know what’s happened with them, and it’s frustrating just throwing theories around in my head  :mad:
Sorry for your losses Iain  :(
I do not know anyone who has had much success with the "blue-eyed" rainbowfish.
I think it's just bad luck as opposed to anything else.

All the best
Stephen
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 10, 2018, 11:37:40 pm
Thanks Stephen
Its just the quick succession of losses thats confusing.
Anyway a lighter note this evening, not fish related....just Bailey acting like a muppet making himself comfy *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 11, 2018, 10:43:46 am
Water lettuce taking over the fry tank again. Water changes today just thought i’d catch this before i start.

https://youtu.be/N22K0Q3hG_g
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Post by: hotashes on January 11, 2018, 11:48:15 am
Very nice Iain try before you buy video ;)




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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 11, 2018, 02:52:42 pm
Funny thing is your lot was already in a bag next to me before i took that  *grin*
I think im running out of room in the tank for just that plant, its huge! Lol (the tanks only 2ft wide)
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Post by: WBT12 on January 11, 2018, 10:49:10 pm
Bloody hell, thats huge... Im never selective when I clear mine out, just grab handfuls and ditch. Think I will just lose the small ones and keep a few of the bigger ones going forward.

Yours look gorgeous

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 11, 2018, 11:52:59 pm
Thanks  *grin*
Thats what I normally do with the other tanks, but after dishing out the bundles before Christmas and having a few with flowers i left them, its only been 2/3 weeks since i sent a load out   *grin*
Theres no ferts in that tank, just a fairly low flow lights on all day (variable) and a buttload of baby platies lol
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Post by: Newbie fishkeeper on January 12, 2018, 01:29:04 am
That's a seriously impressive looking water lettuce.  I don't do so well, maybe the duckweed is outcompeating it.
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Post by: Ruth on January 12, 2018, 02:52:26 pm
That would make some salad!!  Mine is healthy but it grows slowly.  How long does it take to double?


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 12, 2018, 03:35:33 pm
Well that particular bit was one that had flowered that i kept after i sent a few batches out to people. So that has had some space for a couple of weeks. But it does seem to cover that tank quickly, the others not so much but all he lights on the other tanks are timed and theres a bit more flow on the surface of my other tanks. But generally when coverinng it will double in a week or two, that big bit has been a little while in the growth i think (couple of months maybe?)
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Post by: Ruth on January 12, 2018, 05:54:50 pm
Well that particular bit was one that had flowered that i kept after i sent a few batches out to people. So that has had some space for a couple of weeks. But it does seem to cover that tank quickly, the others not so much but all he lights on the other tanks are timed and theres a bit more flow on the surface of my other tanks. But generally when coverinng it will double in a week or two, that big bit has been a little while in the growth i think (couple of months maybe?)
Hmmmm.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 15, 2018, 11:50:03 pm
(Pretty sure) She hates me....and these aren’t the full flare i got at first!
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Post by: Ruth on January 15, 2018, 11:55:27 pm
If you listen carefully I think you may hear her swearing at you!  Sing some Micka to her!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 16, 2018, 12:43:35 am
Lol i wouldnt lile to think what she’d be saying when shes like that! I was only looking to see where she was so i knew where to drop her wafer!  *blink*
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Post by: MattHunt on January 16, 2018, 07:30:49 am
Plecos....so much character in something designed to look utterly hacked off.  :D

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Post by: Ruth on January 16, 2018, 09:30:02 am
I love them!!


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Post by: WBT12 on January 16, 2018, 07:00:02 pm
Cant beat a pleco... :)

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 17, 2018, 02:33:22 pm
Ok so we may have a definite suspect for the signifer females...
After doing the water changes yesterday, i moved the huge bit of water lettuce into my 100l so i can try and grow out a few of the other bits in the fry tank. So i was watching the tank last night just before feeding, admiring the look with the huge roots hanging down when i see lil bub (yep...who else!) skulking around the one root before coming out flaring then going for the one signifer male who was just slowly going by and didnt move when he came out. So not taking any chances i have moved the signifers to the 54l with Arnie ‘n’ the gourami (say that fast it has a nice ring to it  *grin*) and SJP. I did notice a little mark on the side of the signifer just by the pectoral fin/top of the gil, it looks less sore this morning so hopefully it will heal.
Its a bit of a mix of emotions cant argue because lil bub (really need a name for him!) is doing what he would do instinctively but i dont want him munching on my signifers! So he’s a bad ‘pisto! lol luckily its only a small injury and nothing else right now
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Post by: Suelo on January 17, 2018, 02:40:27 pm
I hope the signifer recovers well - at least you have (hopefully) identified what has been happening to the signifiers, and have stopped it happening again.

How about Bubba Bach for lil bub? Although, once I start calling a fish something in my mind, other names for them never stick...
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Post by: Ruth on January 17, 2018, 05:14:09 pm
Killer Bub!! 


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 17, 2018, 05:47:43 pm
Thanks Ruth!  *blink*
My OH might have some issue withthe Welsh Suelo (her pronunciation is awful  roflmao ). She was sat looking at him this afternoon on her lunch and she said to me “Jayne” or “Sue”. Jayne is the one i opted for (although “a boy called Sue” is good song for a reference). So before i reveal the reference for Jayne does anyone want to hazard a guess?
Points for any “browncoats” that know ;)
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Post by: plankton on January 18, 2018, 08:09:32 am
The only male Jane I can think of is Patrick......
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 18, 2018, 08:52:25 am
Your along the right lines of a fictional character Ian, just wrong universe   *grin*
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Post by: plankton on January 18, 2018, 09:13:24 am
I only vaguely remember a couple of females Jayne/Janes in Marvel and DC, no males....
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 18, 2018, 09:36:23 am
Still in the wrong ‘verse ;)
You may not have heard of it as it was a short run show (only a single season) and a film, biggest clue is probably the browncoats reference  *grin*
I’ll leave you guessing for now, i’ll reveal this afternoon if no one has got it by time i get up (sleeping in the daytime is fun!)
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Post by: MattHunt on January 18, 2018, 10:26:49 am
Still in the wrong ‘verse ;)
You may not have heard of it as it was a short run show (only a single season) and a film, biggest clue is probably the browncoats reference  *grin*
I’ll leave you guessing for now, i’ll reveal this afternoon if no one has got it by time i get up (sleeping in the daytime is fun!)
Ah...the ol browncoats eh?

Heat er up! We've got Reevers  8)  :D

I am sure a name change will restore some serenity to the tank.

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Post by: plankton on January 18, 2018, 12:21:09 pm
Never watched it, was it on terrestrial/digital or just satellite?
Joss Whedon stuff is usually pretty good....... *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 18, 2018, 01:51:06 pm
Like a leaf on the wind!  *grin* Points for Matt! lots of points saying that for all the references and puns   *applause*
It was originally on sky i think Ian, although we caught it a few years later. And in traditional Whedon style gathered a bit of a cult following, and you need to watch the series before the film (thats if you decide to watch it). But its only 1 season  *grin*
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Post by: plankton on January 18, 2018, 04:12:40 pm
I might have watched it and been disappointed as it's called Firefly. I would have expected to see a DC character....... ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 18, 2018, 05:42:03 pm
So many DC characters! (So many i dont know/cant remember lol).
Its only firefly after the class of the ship, but it doesnt exactly jump  at you like “buffy the vampire slayer”  *grin*
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Post by: MattHunt on January 18, 2018, 09:22:18 pm
Oh come on...the opening of the film with the strings and then the change in pace as Serenity re-enters the atmosphere  (and starts losing parts) is very 'jumpy'  8)


Anyway...
https://youtu.be/2aodLBr0shc

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 18, 2018, 09:55:14 pm
I meant the name doesnt jump out as much, reavers scare the absolute life out of me and theres every reason to be jumpy around them! Lol
That first scene remind me of my work “you said that’ll hold another week” “That was 6months ago cap’n”   *grin*
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Post by: MattHunt on January 18, 2018, 10:06:11 pm
Haha

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 20, 2018, 09:07:54 pm
Ok so not much to update, the signifer has recovered cant see a mark on him now :) and him and the other male have been darting around the 54l quite happily together with the occasional display  *grin* (weird considering theres no females). Had a bit of a tidy of the java ferns and just a genral clean up the other day.
Otherwise calm :)
So heres some pics for you to enjoy (hopefully)
The 180l and The 100l:
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 20, 2018, 09:10:00 pm
54l and fry tank
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Post by: WBT12 on January 20, 2018, 09:26:03 pm
Very very nice GL :)

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Post by: Suelo on January 20, 2018, 09:36:37 pm
All looking good - some of them are looking very red today!
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Post by: Ruth on January 20, 2018, 09:38:42 pm
All looking lovely! 

You have things with wee blue eyes!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 20, 2018, 10:09:26 pm
All looking lovely! 

You have things with wee blue eyes!


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Pacific blue eyes (pseudomugil signifer), a relation to the p. Luminatus you seen earlier. It was the red body blue eyes thing that suddenly clicked in my head ;)
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Post by: Ruth on January 21, 2018, 08:23:46 am
All looking lovely! 

You have things with wee blue eyes!


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Pacific blue eyes (pseudomugil signifer), a relation to the p. Luminatus you seen earlier. It was the red body blue eyes thing that suddenly clicked in my head ;)
Very pretty wee things.  I’m considering gym membership... the red body blue eyes will look like me after a workout!!lol


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Post by: plankton on January 21, 2018, 10:43:58 am
Are you using the same camera for all those shots?
The tanks each have a different light don't they.........
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 21, 2018, 11:54:59 am
Lmao Ruth
Yes Ian all my photos are taken on my phone, but each tank does have a different light. The 180l is 2xT5 i wanna say 35W bulbs, the 100l is 1xT8 18W, i think the 54l is 1xT8 cant remember the wattage, and the fry tank has the standard white and blue bulb that came with the tank. I take it your seeing our point about the 100l being darker?
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Post by: plankton on January 21, 2018, 12:01:50 pm
I wouldn't say it was darker, just a different light.
The 54l looks darker, but then there's a lot of surface plants. ;)
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Post by: Ruth on January 21, 2018, 04:13:10 pm
Flaunting your “lot of surface plants” as Plankton says!  How DO u get that floating stuff to grow?!  I don’t think mine is reproducing at all!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 21, 2018, 04:24:08 pm
In all honesty....i havent a clue lmao
I think theres enough in most of the tanks for it to hold in place allowing it to grow out, a lot of them are only small leaves and it depends how i set the flow in each tank. They fry tank has grow the best as theres a low flow in there so it settles and grows easy, hence the huge bits i’ve sent out and the mahoosive one i’ve now put in the 100l.
I had a read about it recently after they flowered (which is rare in an aquarium apparently!), because they are floating plants they like high humidity otherwise the leaves burn, the light in the fry tank is quite bright and on for long hours so that has also helped but that tank can get quite humid because of that. So low flow, high light and humidity are apparently key then you end up with a plant you struggle to put in any tank as its a mother a daughter and a granddaughter all joined together in several directions  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 21, 2018, 06:51:06 pm
Found some new music  *grin*
https://youtu.be/I2S5SvbK0v4
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Post by: _pjn312_ on January 21, 2018, 07:12:56 pm
Love it!! *grin*
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Post by: WBT12 on January 21, 2018, 07:23:34 pm
Haha... cool

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 05, 2018, 06:29:38 pm
Ok so update (coffee in hand this should be a good one!).
All the platy fry are gone, except the ones who are a few weeks/days old and too small or i havent caught them yet from the 180l. The last big blueish female in there who i cant catch seems set to stay as long as she stays female thats fine. Putting the adult stock of the 180l at 2 apistos and 6 female platies. Making the total rehome of platies this time 44 out of 45.
I finally managed to finish the water changes yesterday in all the tanks. While doing so i had a little rearrange of the 180l to see if we can entice Bubba and Stubbs a bit more. So I’ve moved the glitter rock from under the filter (which also might give the echinodorus more room) to the other side behind the coconut shell to create the cave, the rock also brought with it a large java fern. I have then also taken one of the pebbles and used it as a support for the rock, even though i have dug the shell and the glitter rock into the gravel. (See pics, hopefully it will make sense). I also found about 4 baby java ferns that i have attached to the root on the left hand side and put the moss ball behind it.
THe 100l has been pretty quiet, Jayne seems to still like to swim through the holes in the arch wood, which is fine until he gets stuck (he’s 50mm long without his tail and 15mm top to bottom at his widest point), and i wont be able to get him out. There was a couple of baby java ferns floating around so i’ve put them in one or two of the holes with the hope Jayne doesn’t rip them back out. The 3 platy males are behaving as usual pestering each other, the blue one though has taken a shine to Jesse and spends a lot of his time with him. The size difference is hilarious :)
As previously mentioned i declared war on the snails in the 54l and went a bit mad. Having removed most of the cover i felt a bit bad that there was next to nothing left. So I have split the water lettuce from the 100l and put a few big bits in the 54l. I have also somehow managed to get the flows in all 3 tanks to just hold the lettuce on the opposite side without swirling it around! Dont ask me how, I haven’t a clue...
The only other change to the 54l is i’ve added a few more java ferns to the wood on the left, and because i realised after i finished doing the change and running round for the day with the fry, that when I removed the filter I must’ve knocked it and it has fallen...oddly enough in a slight cave shape that actually prevents its from falling again, so i’ve left it :)
And Arnie needs to calm down, he did have a small scuff on his head, probably because he flips everytime we walk past the tank (maybe twice a day) and swims so fast he hits the condensation tray. Yet if we go over and watch the tank he’s fine, who knew such a big flary fish would be such a big wuss!
And finally as the fry tanks stands, there are now 12 inhabitants, the last of the “bigger little” ones and a few of the smaller ones, theres definitely still some in the 180l and i will now catch them as we go and add them.
And thats is that if you have managed to get through all that and its made sense then give yourself a shiney star :)
Here’s some pics and videos to help alleviate the pain:

Bubba and Stubbs (no full video, no one wanted to come out to play!)
https://youtu.be/lFwBSGLQL3A

The 100l
https://youtu.be/zLPRI1qbO_k

The 54l
https://youtu.be/1kiJzF6ugVo

The fry tank (65l)
https://youtu.be/8ZyQm3wDy68

Bonus Big Grin
https://youtu.be/w_YEo94UT7I
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 05, 2018, 06:42:50 pm
The 180l
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The 100l:
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 05, 2018, 06:45:42 pm
The 54l:
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 05, 2018, 06:48:50 pm
The fry tank (65l):
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Post by: St3v3h0bb3s on February 05, 2018, 07:15:20 pm
 looks great for the fish
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Post by: hotashes on February 05, 2018, 07:43:01 pm
Hello Iain, great update and lots of rearranging.  Keep up the good work, more room for the apistos to do their thing ;)


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Post by: Suelo on February 05, 2018, 07:54:15 pm
Well done of finding even more homes for the fry Iain.

Love the videos - I hadn't realised how much of a size difference there is between Bubba and Stubbs. And that little fry - so cute!

Also, thought I would let you know that lots of my Water Lettuce plants are putting out lots of roots, so soon my platies shall be enjoying them too!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 05, 2018, 11:36:54 pm
Thanks everyone :)
Hopefully the moves will help Bubba and Stubbs sort something out, that or its set for when we get a couple more females.

Well done of finding even more homes for the fry Iain.

Love the videos - I hadn't realised how much of a size difference there is between Bubba and Stubbs. And that little fry - so cute!

Also, thought I would let you know that lots of my Water Lettuce plants are putting out lots of roots, so soon my platies shall be enjoying them too!

Great news! Glad it has settled in for you :) you’ll be trying to find places to put it soon lol
Yes there is quite a difference between the apisto males and females, especially our two. The males are about double the size of the females :)
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Post by: Calmwaters on February 11, 2018, 09:59:20 pm
Glad all is well now GL & everyone looks great! I too didn’t realise the size difference between Bubba & Stubbs great little video to show us all.



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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 11, 2018, 10:32:22 pm
Glad all is well now GL & everyone looks great! I too didn’t realise the size difference between Bubba & Stubbs great little video to show us all.



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Thanks CW :) nice to see you its been a little while since, hope everything is well at your end :)
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Post by: Calmwaters on February 12, 2018, 06:13:23 am
All well here thanks, just been a busy time. :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 13, 2018, 07:57:16 pm
Lost one of my signifer males today (Billy), no idea what time. And i feel like its my fault as i should listen to myself more often!
Said to my OH this morning before we went out about taking the cucumber out (put in very late sunday evening/night) when we were back before it turns to mush and we weren’t planning on being long. In the back of my mind i’m thinking i should’ve done it before. Either way we ended up out longer than expected by time we got back the cucumber had decided to detach from the spoon and float, making the tank cloudy. So i flick the light on and look in to find the lil guy on the bottom belly up Sad
So we jump right into action with a large water change and an OD of prime just in case, without even looking at the levels. I’ve kept the lights on and upped the filter flow a bit to try and help clear it (the lights are my thoughts on oxygen and the plants giving out oxygen when photosynthesising), although the gills didnt look discoloured or anything and no one appeared to be gasping or breathing heavily.
Either way everyone else seems ok, although the water is still a little cloudy compared to normal, so i may do another change tomorrow before work.
Just really annoyed with myself! I’m off to my dark corner!  :mad:
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Post by: Suelo on February 14, 2018, 09:32:09 am
Sorry you lost him Iain 😞
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Post by: TopCookie on February 14, 2018, 09:44:54 am
Gutted for you Gingerlove05...  That must be heart breaking...  :(
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Post by: Calmwaters on February 14, 2018, 09:48:23 am
So sorry Gl :(


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Post by: hotashes on February 14, 2018, 09:56:21 am
Sorry for the loss Iain, I know you love all of your fishes.  Fingers crossed its a one off in this case, good luck mate.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 14, 2018, 12:43:10 pm
Thanks all
Hope it is just a one off, either way i’ll be doing what i tell me to do next time and take no chances.
Jeff still seems ok, seems to be hanging around Arnie today just chilling...
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Post by: TopCookie on February 14, 2018, 01:57:13 pm
Not much in the way of consolation GL, but all the same, thanks for posting this and know that the point made has been noted...  You have almost certainly helped myself and other noobs reading this to avoid leaving veg foods in their tanks too long and consequently will save a few fish... 
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Post by: hotashes on February 14, 2018, 02:07:06 pm
It's a strange one, I always leave my peeled cucumber in the tank!!!!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 14, 2018, 02:15:13 pm
Its only one possibility TC, i did lose one of the other males randomly a little while ago. And after Jayne (formerly lil bub) showed he was no longer friends with them and I believe he picked off the females after seeing him stalk one of the males.
But its definitely something i’ll be careful of and normally something i’m pretty good with.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 22, 2018, 10:02:16 pm
So what’s happening here then?
This afternoon got Jayne rather excited, anyone want to hazard a guess what’s happening?
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Post by: TopCookie on February 22, 2018, 10:53:01 pm
That's one handsome devil there GL...   thumbsup
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Post by: Stephen on February 22, 2018, 11:11:42 pm
(https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=223674.0;attach=630585;image)

Remind me please, which apisto is this?
I agree it is one gorgeous fish  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 23, 2018, 12:27:20 am
(https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=223674.0;attach=630585;image)

Remind me please, which apisto is this?
I agree it is one gorgeous fish  *grin*

Jayne, formerly little Bub, Bubba’s son and the one we kept from our brood of 12 from last year, he’s 9.5months old apisto cacatuoides.
We’ve been saying about getting some more females to try and breed them again (my OH really enjoyed watching that). So today we moved Stubbs to the newly named Misfit tank (formerly Marsellus’s dwelling). Then took a trip to Peterborough picked up some ceramic shells with moss on them and some new friends for Bubba and Jayne. They have spent all afternoon strutting their stuff, its amazing Jayne hasn’t knocked out his lady (already named Vera, firefly reference) with his tail slaps and shimmying, although they do seem to like the cave i set up for them. And he’s also kept all the platy and plattail males at bay, his attitude has been highly charged to say the least, but nothing to worry about :)
Anyway here’s some pics:
The 180l first: The new cave, Bubba and his new friend, the new female
The 100l: Moss cave view behind the wood, Under the wood and a wider view, Jayne’s new friend Vera

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Post by: Stephen on February 23, 2018, 12:36:45 am
Thanks Iain for the info and updates.
Good luck with future breeding.  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 23, 2018, 01:02:54 am
Thanks Stephen :)
We will see how they go, we always said we could swap them over if it doesnt look like its going well. But so far both females seem to have coloured up yellow at both Bubba and Jayne, and as i say the displays have been crazy, i dont think Jayne’s fins have gone down all afternoon and evening and him and “Vera” have been in and out of the cave quite a lot   *grin*
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Post by: Calmwaters on February 23, 2018, 12:07:59 pm
Very nice GL!  Jayne & Vera sound to have taken to each other nicely. Wishing you lots of luck with the breeding :D


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Post by: Feliss on February 23, 2018, 08:33:12 pm
Love firefly :)

My favourite is the fry tank hands down, that intrepid little guy in what look like massive root jungle  *grin*
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Post by: MattHunt on February 23, 2018, 08:44:00 pm
Guess the tank is not called 'Serenity' then?  ;)

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 24, 2018, 06:28:23 pm
Love firefly :)

My favourite is the fry tank hands down, that intrepid little guy in what look like massive root jungle  *grin*

I impressed myself capturing that ;) lol he’s still pretty small (i always look for him/her) but a bit more adventurous, i’ll try and catch him again in the next couple of days :)

Guess the tank is not called 'Serenity' then?  ;)

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It could be, the way the males (the crew?) have the odd squabble and Jayne goes off on one lol
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Post by: Roger on February 25, 2018, 11:03:30 am
I love the tank, and I so relate to your comment "my head is swimming with the info i've been reading"...  I shall follow your journey with interest and thanks for all the help :-)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 25, 2018, 03:40:22 pm
Thanks Roger :)
I’ll get some updated pics and videos of them all over the next couple of days with any luck. And glad to be of help with anything I can, there is a lot of info to take in, i’ve had to dig a few more tunnels in the mind cave to make room for it all, and its not like i know that much info!  *grin*
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Post by: TopCookie on February 25, 2018, 04:22:40 pm
Thanks Roger :)
I’ll get some updated pics and videos of them all over the next couple of days with any luck. And glad to be of help with anything I can, there is a lot of info to take in, i’ve had to dig a few more tunnels in the mind cave to make room for it all, and its not like i know that much info!  *grin*

Looking forward to that GL...   thumbsup
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 27, 2018, 02:08:34 pm
Ok so brief update.
Jayne seems to be a little heavy handed in his attempts to get Vera’s attention. We noticed yesterday he seemed to be more chasing and trying to nip her. She had also really coloured down with her lateral line reduced to a spot in the middle. No major injury that we can see, although she did have a couple of small splits in her tail.
So we have moved her to the 180l, which caused some interesting behaviour between her Bubba and the now named Ripley (the other female and another reference ;) ). Between some flared gils and some squaring up, Bubba constantly got in the way and actually seemed to act like an actual barrier keeping both apart and stopping any fighting while also displaying at both of them. It was all rather amusing.
Either way Vera’s colour quickly returned, and in an unexpected turn of events she has come out as the more dominant female, luring Bubba into a hole in the big bit of wood, which we now wonder if theres a tunnel from the hole to the big gap under the wood. I’ll try and get a pic of the hole but i dont know how lol Vera has now spent the morning tail slapping Bubba, and he seems to be splitting his time between both Vera and Ripley, and they’ve seems to have calmed down with each other, although Vera does seem to be on at Bubba! Lol
Here’s hoping :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 27, 2018, 02:12:23 pm
Well....
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Post by: plankton on February 27, 2018, 04:17:34 pm
Didn't take long - what an hussy she is! *shock*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 27, 2018, 04:38:44 pm
No it did not lol
Less than 24hours from being chased about by Jayne and having plae colours to laying eggs. Obviously like the environment in the 180l, not that any of them have used the shells or caves i setup! Typical!  :censored2:
Our first mum dug her own under one of the glitter rocks and Vera has picked the huge cave in the middle created by the wood’s shape! I thought my homes were good as well lmao
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Post by: _pjn312_ on February 27, 2018, 05:01:35 pm
Oooooooooooh exciting! :grin:
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 01, 2018, 10:12:55 pm
She ate them :/ watched her chomp the last few *sigh*
Nevermind they might try again.
Jayne might never have a mate as hes managed to split Ripley’s tail, so we’ve put her in the 54l for now with Stubbs and the others. But i dont know if this will work long term as Ripley is more active and moves in her quick darty movements, whereas Stubbs is quite placid and submissive and swims rather than darts and just generally takes it easy all round.
I have no idea how i’m going to work my way around this one :/
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 06, 2018, 04:24:31 pm
Well today sucks! (Thays being really polite considering how i feel right now!)
Came home from nights to find we’d lost Stubbs :(
She hasnt been looking too clever lately, not sure if she was eggbound and couldnt lay or if it was just issues with the fact she may have been deformed. But she has been going about her usual business, we moved Ripley back into the 180l the other day (after a small rearrange) as i wasnt sure about her with Stubbs after seeing a very light “kiss” on the side.
Anyway now to this afternoon, and I’ve also had to euthanize Honey. She has ballooned in the past 4-5days, and despite my best efforts it looks like dropsy had taken hold, and shes just got bigger :(
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Post by: wildcherry on March 06, 2018, 04:33:55 pm
Sorry to hear that, Gingerlove05 :(
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Post by: Suelo on March 06, 2018, 04:54:46 pm
Oh no Iain, sorry to hear about the two of them. And on the same day too  :(
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Post by: plankton on March 06, 2018, 07:13:49 pm
:(
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Post by: TopCookie on March 06, 2018, 11:09:49 pm
Sorry for the losses GL... 
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Post by: Calmwaters on March 07, 2018, 10:38:01 pm
So sorry for your losses GL :(
Gutted for you.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 08, 2018, 12:10:07 am
Thanks all
We did realise we had Honey just over 2 years, which didnt seem bad for a soft water fish in hard water. And we did wonder if Stubbs was the last of our first 3 female apistos.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 09, 2018, 10:34:57 pm
Water change day yesterday, we also had a move around. My OH thinks SJP might prefer a bit more room, so we moved the 3 sunset platy males (1st gen male, crooks and the other little one) to the 54l.
So took the opportunity to move SJP...great fun moving a pleco! Tried getting her into the open to catch her, with no luck. So i lifted the wood that she stubbornly decided to cling to, her response was to swim into my hand, then whip around and attach herself to my finger before diving into the tank. I put the wood back in and after a short chase she went back to it, so we quickly lifted it out and turned it so she was on the top and shifted across the room to the 100l, where we got her over the tank and she decided to jump off and into the 100l  *grin*
We’ve also shifted Ripley back to the 54l as she was getting pestered a bit by Bubba or getting chased off by Vera.
Either way SJP seems settled in the 100l, and might even be clearing the hair algae on the wood...
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Post by: Calmwaters on March 10, 2018, 10:23:03 pm
Sounds like SJP gave you a fun challenge. & she is going to enjoy her new feasting ground.
Hope everyone settles well in the new tanks :D


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 12, 2018, 12:25:49 pm
Just a couple of updated pics, SJP has been very busy, the wood is all pretty much spotless!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 12, 2018, 12:27:25 pm
And the 54l:
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Post by: MattHunt on March 13, 2018, 11:46:04 am
Very nice tanks!

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 13, 2018, 12:39:32 pm
Thanks Matt :)
SJP is still finding bits to eat apparently, that is until I show up!  *grin* (she hates me! Lol)
https://youtu.be/kdWuc_NDoJc
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Post by: TopCookie on March 13, 2018, 01:16:10 pm
Looking v.good GL...   thumbsup
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 13, 2018, 07:31:55 pm
We have the QT running :(
Carl was resting at the front of the tank this morning, gasping a little with what looks very similar to the trouble Sly had after his lip got worse, cant tell if its fungus-y or rot, he wont stay facing me long enough for me to get a really good look, but the mouth does look clear from what i can see, so i will find out this evening if he’s eating or not. I have dosed with esha incase there is any fungus or rot, and i’ll now spend my time worrying about Carl and the rest in the 100l....
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Post by: _pjn312_ on March 13, 2018, 09:21:10 pm
Sorry to hear Iain :(
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Post by: TopCookie on March 13, 2018, 11:51:18 pm
Fingers crossed for you dude... 
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 17, 2018, 02:24:23 pm
Tired and demoralised is the theme for today i think.
We lost Vera yesterday evening, and we have absolutely no idea why. She tended to hang out in a cove at the back of the wood, but you’d always see her chasing the platies off. Thursday evening she was at the front with Bubba, flirting a little but not chasing the platies off so much. Yesterday evening after a busy day (and me being awake since Thursday afternoon), we could see her hiding in the “coconut” shell but couldnt see anything wrong (it is hard to see in there though). Either way we planned to check and once we got everything ready she had come out and was just listlessly lying in the java moss. Got her into the hatchery so we could have a look and she was pineconing (seriously what the hell!? Right?). So next plan into action epsom salt bath (little tip if you have EI ferts, the magnesium sulphate [MgSO4] is epsom salt). Either way she didnt improve at all after that spending her time tipped over the wrong way nose down and she didnt last long Sad
 i’ve checked all the parameters, top and bottom of the water column, everyone else is fine which would make sense as Pearl has been healing a nick in her head and thats healed in a couple of days.
On a lighter note SJP has discovered “sharing” with Jayne which did lighten my mood slightly (i say sightly, i give you a WARNING about the music):
https://youtu.be/pYAQFsYu4_Q
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Post by: Misty on March 17, 2018, 02:31:35 pm
Sorry to hear about your loss :-(

Nice video by the way (and music fits perfectly) :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 17, 2018, 02:40:27 pm
Thanks Misty :)
I thought the same about the music, made me laugh a little at the end when Jayne just goes back to a relaxed position and the music just stops.
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Post by: Roger on March 19, 2018, 01:46:47 am
Poor Vera, so sorry to hear the news GL :-(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 19, 2018, 07:33:42 am
Thanks Roger :)
Hopefully things will settle a bit now, just gotta keep an eye on Carl in QT now to see of his mouth improves, doesnt look like it so far but he hasn't got worse either as far as i can tell. I’m at a loss with him as his brother (Sly) had something similar from a young age, that never got better but also never affected him until he’d grown up a bit, i wonder if its a defect of them being crosses or soemthing like that.
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Post by: MattHunt on March 19, 2018, 07:49:04 am
Hello

Sorry to hear you are also having problems with your tanks.

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Post by: Suelo on March 19, 2018, 07:58:04 am
Keeping fingers crossed for Carl.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 19, 2018, 08:34:21 am
Hello

Sorry to hear you are also having problems with your tanks.

Thanks Matt, its been a rough fortnight but nothing compared to the nightmare your having right now.

Keeping fingers crossed for Carl.

Thanks Suelo, hes still swimming quite strongly, still not seen him eat but the food i have put in isnt there when i check to see if he has eaten (obviously if it was still lying there i’d be taking it out)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 19, 2018, 03:59:38 pm
Had to open my mouth, we lost Carl this afternoon :(
I’m guessing what ever the infection/illness was is what got to him, the tank checked out ok and he hadnt lost a lot, if any, weight.
I’m not saying anymore on fearing of jinxing myself....
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Post by: plankton on March 19, 2018, 04:00:21 pm
:(
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Post by: _pjn312_ on March 19, 2018, 04:12:11 pm
Sorry for your loss GL :(
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Post by: Suelo on March 19, 2018, 04:24:22 pm
Sorry you lost him Iain  :(
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Post by: Roger on March 19, 2018, 05:09:29 pm
Oh dear GL, I am so sorry  :down:
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 19, 2018, 06:35:27 pm
Thank all
Its been a rough fortnight with 4 deaths. Just hope thing settle and i can finally update with something good.
On a small update we have moved Ripley back to the 180l, as she was chasing Jeff and only Jeff in the 54l. I think its to do with him being yellow and female apistos are also yellow and will compete/have spats with each other. Either way with Jayne (potentially) taking out my females and Ripley now chasing a male, Signifers and Apistos are a no go! Just glad i spotted it before she seriously injured him. And shes ok in with Bubba, mild flirtation going on but nothing major, so we’ll see how they go...
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Post by: Calmwaters on March 20, 2018, 09:23:38 pm
Ah GL  I’m am so sorry to read about you further losses. :(
Hoping your fortune improves from here on.


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 20, 2018, 09:28:45 pm
Thanks CW
Hopefully things will calm down now, maybe persuade Bubba and Ripley to have some babies and focus on getting the remaining 20 odd platy babies grown up and moved on :)
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Post by: TopCookie on March 20, 2018, 11:12:19 pm
Light on the horizon GL...   thumbsup
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 28, 2018, 01:12:25 am
So plan was to spend the day doing the tanks, changes clipping etc as they are a bit overdue. As the day would i only managed to get the 180l done, but i gave it a huge clip back. Any leaf that had any sign of algae/holes etc came out, also clipped the java fern roots and java moss that was growing wild on the left hand side of the log, also shifted loads of water lettuce off the top as it was starting to take over, i knocked the filter outlet the other week and i cant get it back where i had it! Either way its looking a lot brighter, hopefully get the rest done over the weekend, heres a quick full tank shot of the 180l and a bonus couple of Jayne photobombing and SJP hanging on the arch wood.
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Post by: TopCookie on March 28, 2018, 01:59:15 am
Nice job dude...   thumbsup
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Post by: _pjn312_ on March 28, 2018, 06:17:22 am
Good job, and looking very good :)
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Post by: Misty on March 28, 2018, 04:31:23 pm
Looks lovely  thumbsup
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 31, 2018, 09:16:32 pm
Water change clip back and clear up of the 100l tonight. The water lettuce really doesnt seem to last in there, the large one i put i from the fry tank was reduced to about 5 little leaves with a little sprout, so i have cleared the lot! Theres a few tiny leaves of lettuce dotted about so i’ll remove them as i go. I guess the light (only being an 18W bulb) is a not as bright as the other tanks. I’ve also really clipped back the crypts as a few leaves on them were looking a bit sorry for themselves, so hopefully they’ll have a sprout up now if i keep my mojo up. Which is really hard to do when you spend an hour clipping and water changing to turn the filter back on and find it doesnt start...i am getting really  :censored2: with this lately as its not been long since its been cleaned it wasn’t that bad, but it meant i had to take it out, clean the impeller and arse about with the media to clear it, once i got it working in traditional style it spat a load of muck all over the tank creating a wonderful browny cloud and a load of crap over the sand.... :censored2: :ranting:
So unfortunately no pics at least not until it settles down a bit
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Post by: Misty on March 31, 2018, 09:45:24 pm
Grrrrrr that sounds frustrating :-S
Hope it all settles down soon and we'll see some lovely pics :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 31, 2018, 10:05:14 pm
Yeah i was a little annoyed, felt like i wasted an hour!  it does look a bit tidier now its clipped just hope it grows back up now lol
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 31, 2018, 11:31:46 pm
Its a little clearer, still bitty when looking up close, but theres just patches of crud everywhere it can settle out of the flow.
And this is also what happens to Jaynes face when he bites off too much of an algae wafer... (hes ok he can put his jaw back, just bit off more than he can chew!)
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Post by: Stephen on March 31, 2018, 11:57:33 pm
You've been busy Iain  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 01, 2018, 12:11:08 am
Thanks Stephen :)
Like yourself I’m trying to get my mojo back with the tanks, after the quick succession of deaths across them all it knocked me back a bit and although i’ve been maintaining, its really just been that, I haven’t put any extra effort in and its got to a point I’ve annoyed myself with it lol
So action is being taken and I am slowly working my way around them all, doing some big work and changes to bring them back to where i want them :)
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Post by: Stephen on April 01, 2018, 12:33:19 am
Thanks Stephen :)
Like yourself I’m trying to get my mojo back with the tanks, after the quick succession of deaths across them all it knocked me back a bit and although i’ve been maintaining, its really just been that, I haven’t put any extra effort in and its got to a point I’ve annoyed myself with it lol
So action is being taken and I am slowly working my way around them all, doing some big work and changes to bring them back to where i want them :)
Keep up the good work mate, you're doing a great job.  *applause*

I am also doing my normal duties such as water changes and tank maintenance.
I think I need some ............

(https://www.ocado.com/productImages/319/319635011_0_640x640.jpg)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 01, 2018, 12:56:07 am
Lol i drink too much coffee for that stuff to even touch the sides (no lie its wasted on me!  *grin*)
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Post by: TopCookie on April 01, 2018, 01:05:10 am
Good to see you turning that bad luck run around GL and into a positive opportunity...  Tank's looking good already...  :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 01, 2018, 11:54:15 am
Thanks TC :)
I’m hoping without the water lettuce blocking the light it will grow back fairly quickly, it does look a bit brighter without it, and no one seems bothered. I think it was only Jayne who would peck at the odd few little leaves weirdly  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 05, 2018, 12:54:29 am
Ok so after a trip to the homeland  *wales* i finished doing the water changes on the 54l and the fry tank. I had a good clip back in the 54l, again removed all the water lettuce i could, which i replaced with a few big bits from the fry tank, the filter didnt restart properly so i ended up cleaning that and finding the aquarium balls had blocked the inlet, so removed the small ones that had caused the block, found a few remaining snails in the filter and the tank which were also removed. Also had some fun as my U3 in the 100l decided to make a rattling sound, to which i found it had a low flow, which turned out to be the same issue! So i’m going to have to get some media bags in with them, i have some lying around here somewhere  *rolleyes*
So water changes done in 100l, 54l and fry tank after the filter messes, so i got some photos of the 54l and videos of the 180l (long and you will see why), 100l and fry tank. In the fry tank video around 50s-1:20s the little orange cupid marked fry is the “Bonus fry” from a little while back, he’s grown quite well :)
Anyway hope you enjoy, otherwise sorry i’ve wasted at least 10mins of your time  *grin*

180l:

https://youtu.be/guS1HM4HwTA

100l:

https://youtu.be/0ktaG529lw0

Fry tank:

https://youtu.be/dvu2PeQwCHw
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Post by: _pjn312_ on April 05, 2018, 07:04:10 am
Really nice :)
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Post by: Si4geckos on April 05, 2018, 08:25:01 am
Awesome set ups. Love how well rounded all your fish seem to be. Look super happy.

Think the fry tank is my favourite. They're so cute.

Top job!  *applause*
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Post by: TopCookie on April 05, 2018, 10:46:35 am
I agree with Si...  all looking great there GL...  If picking a fave, I like the 100l and the 180l  :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 05, 2018, 12:15:48 pm
Thanks guys :)
Love the “well rounded” comment Si, more likely just well fed and greedy! Lol
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Post by: TopCookie on April 05, 2018, 12:26:07 pm
lolol, I'm a tad "well rounded" myself...   roflmao
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 05, 2018, 02:13:55 pm
Lol you can lend some to me if you want TC, i annoy people with how i dont gain weight   *grin*
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Post by: TopCookie on April 05, 2018, 03:00:19 pm
Only us fatties, and only coz we're jealous of you thinnies...   *grin*
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Post by: Misty on April 05, 2018, 04:48:28 pm
Lovely pics and videos GL; love ur choice of music. Or maybe your fish just feels the rhythm and moves accordingly on purpose? ;)

i annoy people with how i dont gain weight   *grin*

Haha me too! And if I try to “fatten myself up” a bit, it just lands around my face so I’ve given up on that idea
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 05, 2018, 05:12:36 pm
Thanks Misty :)
I will admit i spend some time trying to pick the right sort of song for them, and i do have a few favourites from youtubes lists :) i will also admit i cut about 15seconds off the 100l video so the music suited (it was just weird otherwise lol)
I dont know where my weight goes, there is the suggestion of being ginger and having no soul it tries to fill that hole  roflmao (south park reference)
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Post by: Misty on April 05, 2018, 10:02:44 pm
lol  thumbsup
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 06, 2018, 12:33:47 am
So i noticed some interesting behaviour between Jayne and SJP last night over an algae wafer. Although Jayne drags it off he leaves SJP with it when she has it and just hovers around her until she leaves it, he will have a good go at it then if/when she comes back he leaves it for her again.
However last night Jesse thought he’d get in on the action, which resulted in Jayne chasing him off when he got too close. At one point when Jaynes back was turned Jesses thought he’d peck SJP, which sent her off back to her cove in the wood. Jesse feeling a bit brazen thought he’d fight with Jayne over it until SJP come back down sneakily and lunged at Jesse sending him scarpering with Jayne chasing him just a bit further out of the area, leaving SJP with her wafer and Jayne standing guard over the arch. It’s unusual to watch, but i hope it keeps up, not the fighting but the strange partnership Jayne and SJP seem to have.
Either way heres a video from this evening showing something similar, Jayne obviously doesn’t fancy the courgette, but he still keeps Jesse away from SJP and the general area :)

https://youtu.be/1if6c97x6ng
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Post by: _pjn312_ on April 06, 2018, 01:02:05 pm
Very dramatic! Love it :)
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Post by: Misty on April 06, 2018, 01:46:24 pm
Your pleco (SJP?) is so cute tucking into that courgette! So adorable :-)

And damn, I love the song (had to shazam it)
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Post by: TopCookie on April 06, 2018, 03:08:39 pm
And damn, I love the song (had to shazam it)

lol, very "Pulp Fiction"...  innit...   *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 06, 2018, 03:32:59 pm
Lol I always think either pulp fiction or wipeout  *grin*
And yes SJP (Miss Sarah Jessica Parker, blame my OH) is the pleco, Jayne is the apisto (Firefly reference), and Jesse is the orange plattail with his lil blue buddy.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 06, 2018, 09:11:35 pm
24hours later (roughly). And a decent pic of Jayne   *grin*
Sorry for the mess Jesse had a fit and kicked up a load of muck :/
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Post by: Misty on April 06, 2018, 09:44:38 pm
Nice one of Jayne. How big is she (lengthwise)?

Wow SJP has an appetite lol, though the way she was devouring that courgette I'm surprised she has eventually gotten off it
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 06, 2018, 11:14:43 pm
Jayne is a male Misty ;) (i promise i wont tell him, it wont help his mood  roflmao). The name comes from a sci-fi show called Firefly (Serenity is the film).
From nose to the start of his tail he’s around 52-53mm (just about 2inches), including the tail (without filaments) hes around 65mm, with filaments he’s over 70mm.
He’s still smaller than his dad (Bubba) in the 180l. Bubba is 57mm nose to start of tail, about 70mm (maybe a bit over) including his tail, but he’s not got the filaments like Jayne.
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Post by: Misty on April 06, 2018, 11:36:56 pm
Your fish must have a talent of standing still and close enough to the glass to allow u to get such precise measurements ;)

Jayne is a male Misty ;) (i promise i wont tell him, it wont help his mood  roflmao).

Haha oops! Well, maybe tell him he should stop being moody so other people don’t mistake him for a female :-P
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Post by: TopCookie on April 07, 2018, 12:04:42 am
That's a truly gorgeous fish GL...  Proper nice...!!!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 07, 2018, 01:03:04 am
Thanks TC, he is pretty even if his lips are too big for his head!  roflmao

Your fish must have a talent of standing still and close enough to the glass to allow u to get such precise measurements ;)

Haha oops! Well, maybe tell him he should stop being moody so other people don’t mistake him for a female :-P


I just spend time in front of the glass (like my OH does sometimes) pulling stupid faces at them because they react if you puff your cheeks and pop your lips at them its funny, its a threat/challenge if you ever check out male or even females (i’ve seen it more by our females) they flare their gils to make themselves look bigger and more intimidating before charging at their opponent. Males tend to liplock, with their huge mouths it can be nasty and some come away with dislocated or damaged jaws or worse...
But because of the time spent around them they’re quite used to us and always come up to see us, which is handy as we can keep a close eye on their general well being (also means if i’m armed with the tape when they stop i can get a fairly good idea on size [i’m also an engineer by trade so mm is easy ;) ], the platies are impossible lol), the females are a bit harder if they decide to nest somewhere, as they may not come out while protecting eggs. They can be moodier than the males with or without eggs!
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Post by: Misty on April 07, 2018, 07:28:48 pm
It's amazing fish are much smarter than people give them credit for.
Mine come up to greet me too, but with them I think it is more of classical conditioning, as they think they are gonna get fed. And it's hilarious they get overexcited and try to nibble on a syringe when I draw the water for testing (they just can't comprehend why would anyone put non-edible items into the tank lol)
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Post by: Calmwaters on April 08, 2018, 09:26:45 pm
Fantastic picture of Jayne GL he is stunning! Loving the relationship he & SJP have going on. :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 08, 2018, 09:40:03 pm
Thanks CW, nice to see you :)
Its a strange one on me, but if it works i’m not complaining lol
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Post by: piker on April 08, 2018, 09:57:53 pm
Looking good, hope lucks on your side now


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 08, 2018, 10:19:45 pm
Thanks Piker :)
Things seemed to have calmed down
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Post by: TopCookie on April 08, 2018, 10:55:36 pm
I just spend time in front of the glass (like my OH does sometimes) pulling stupid faces at them because they react if you puff your cheeks and pop your lips at them its funny...

I can't help but wonder how many of us tried doing exactly this after reading your post GL...   *grin*
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Post by: Misty on April 08, 2018, 11:25:53 pm
Haha TC spot on!
Have you been spying on me? O_o
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 08, 2018, 11:28:06 pm
Lol I imagine a few people may have tried it. (Misty has proven my point  roflmao)
 Depends on the fish, it works with the apistos as i think in their eyes it looks like a threat so they stand their ground in true cichlid fashion. But if you do spend time in front ofthe tank your fish get used to you being there instead of just being a food source, so you find some will come to watch you for a while before they carry on with their normal behaviour. Even so i have still very rarely catch a lot of unsatisfactory behaviour (in the example of the suspicion of Jayne and my signifers), so i think they know to behave somehow lol
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Post by: TopCookie on April 08, 2018, 11:37:06 pm
Didn't work with my Tetras...  but then I have a stupid expression most of the time, lolol...   *grin*
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Post by: Misty on April 08, 2018, 11:42:47 pm
Lol pulling faces didn’t work with mine either (they probably thought I was going koo koo  roflmao )
But I do think they have personality, especially after watching them you start attributing certain qualities to them, and learn what makes them behave in a certain way
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 11, 2018, 12:37:55 am
Well here’s what might be the last few pics of the fry and a short video to keep you entertained :)
In other news my 1st gen. male is back in the 100l after Arnie seemed to be pestering him, and he was hiding behind the filter. Him and Pearl are coming up for 3 years old in about a month or so.
So far he’s ok, Jayne pestered him for about 10 seconds before turning his attention back to Jesse.
Anyway heres the pics and video (same as the ads i’ve posted):

https://youtu.be/6bwbBBHowMA
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Post by: _pjn312_ on April 11, 2018, 09:25:25 am
They're very cute!! Is it sad to see them go or are you used to it now?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 11, 2018, 02:37:33 pm
I think we’re used to it now although i still worry about them after we have handed them over, as i think I’ve managed to keep them alive since they were eyes with tails so if the tanks setup as it should (cycled and looked after) be and they’re acclimatised properly there shouldnt be an issue.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 11, 2018, 04:54:28 pm
Well our apisto breeding attempt is over before its really began. We lost Ripley this morning  :(*bye3*
I am so  :censored: off!
Cant even work out what has happend, not outward signs on her, she was hanging around the “coconut” cave on the left yesterday, but doing her usual exploring. She came out at feeding, as Bubba chased her away from a bit of food but she definitely ate.
I have done a complete test on the tank, found the PH seemed to be a bit high, looking more towards 7.8 instead of 7.4. Tested the tap, 7.4. Checked the water quality report, last checks made our hardness has gone up from 14.3dgh to 14.8dgh. But i doubt it’s that as the results are the 2017 tests.
Either way i did around a 25-30% water change as something has shifted the ph a bit, the nitrates also looked a little higher than usual. But I haven’t the slightest as to what is going on. Bubba and Jayne seem completely unfazed, although i think Bubba has been looking around for Ripley :(
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Post by: TopCookie on April 11, 2018, 05:11:18 pm
(http://www.cdv-forum.com/Smileys/default/sorry.gif)
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Post by: _pjn312_ on April 11, 2018, 06:52:37 pm
Sorry for your loss Iain :(
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Post by: Misty on April 11, 2018, 09:38:23 pm
Sorry to hear that... :(

* who was Ripley? and who's Bubba? (only know Jayne, Jesse and SJP; I'll catch up eventually :) )
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 12, 2018, 01:01:39 am
Lol Misty. I’ll list everyone by name and type for you and what tank they are in. (If you watch the last video of the 180l from a few days ago, Ripley is the female who Bubba is following)

180l:
Pearl (mum of nearly all the oher females), Akoya (the huge blue one), Dolphie’s Legacy (silver and red), Half’n’half (half blue half orange), Pearl’s doppelgänger 1 and 2. All female platies
Bubba, our original male apisto and Jayne’s dad.
Ripley, one of the female apistos we got under 2months ago, Vera was the other one.

100l:
Jesse, swordtail and platy cross (essentially a giant platy)
My 1st gen male, sunset wagtail pattern, nearly 3 years old (same generation as Pearl)
The lil blue platy, unamed.
Jayne, male apisto, Bubba’s son and the only one we kept of the brood of 12 from last year.
SJP (or Miss Sarah Jessica Parker), BN pleco, around about the same age as Jayne.

54l:
Arnie, swordtail and platy cross, with an insane dorsal fin and a small sword to his tail
The two dwarved platy males (one is named Crooks as his spine has always been a bit off shaped since birth)
Jeff, the signifer rainbow, last remaining of my batch of 8.
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Post by: Feliss on April 12, 2018, 08:20:08 pm
Sorry, such a shame :(
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Post by: Misty on April 12, 2018, 09:16:12 pm
Thanks GL. Wow that’s a detailed account, no excuses for me now :)
* mental note taken. If ever in doubt refer to the log page 60 ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 12, 2018, 11:24:04 pm
Thanks all!
No problem Misty, it would be easier if i could use the inline attachments to make sense of it. Failing that you can always just ask ;)
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Post by: Calmwaters on April 13, 2018, 09:31:41 pm
So sorry you lost her GL :(


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 14, 2018, 11:56:01 pm
So 13 fry down, the tank is looking considerably emptier. They got picked up this afternoon and taken to their new home :) the woman has more tanks than me and way more cats! Lol but the new homes sound great and she loves her platies :)
Anyway a couple of pics of the tank now and a video of “Bonus” (hope you remember):
https://youtu.be/fQ6JXKxtN9A

PS Second pic is especially for PJN ;)
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Post by: Si4geckos on April 15, 2018, 12:46:55 pm
Good news on the rehoming :)

Nice video. Although I though 'heavy metals' were bad for aquariums....  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 24, 2018, 10:43:31 pm
So update time, not a huge amount has been going on. I am experimenting a bit with my ferts via nitrate monitoring (only test i have will have to expand on this at some point i think).
My OH has mentioned once the fry tank is empty we might look at some female apistos again, using the fry tank as the QT. So we may try again :)
Anyway heres some pics and videos (i’ll await the wtf comments  *grin*;))

The 180l:

https://youtu.be/ifPBQR3Heic

The 100l:

https://youtu.be/fbFVwfk_w-w

The 54l:

https://youtu.be/YDJSdOITb7w

The fry tank:

https://youtu.be/eOHl3wmKK2c

SJP pressie:

https://youtu.be/uesbZrAXAww


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Post by: _pjn312_ on April 25, 2018, 06:41:54 am
*insert wtf comment*

Looking good Iain :)
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Post by: TopCookie on April 25, 2018, 09:43:26 am
I am experimenting a bit with my ferts via nitrate monitoring (only test i have will have to expand on this at some point i think).

Looks like you just might be having the same issue I'm suffering with at the mo GL... 
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 25, 2018, 12:15:05 pm
Possibly TC, not sure about what i’m missing (or not missing), algae doesnt seem to be taking over or anything. I think its just in my head after the higher ph reading the other week, its making me wonder what caused it :/
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Post by: TopCookie on April 25, 2018, 01:24:02 pm
In my case, I think (emphasis on "think") that I have zero nitrates and possibly zero potassium, or at least very low...  With the high phosphates, this combination is starting to create a little havoc...  Nitrates would appear to be the key in my case though - again, I "think"...?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 25, 2018, 08:26:04 pm
Yep its a lot of “i think” but no definitive answers lmao  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 25, 2018, 09:21:34 pm
Anyway in other news:
A bit over 24hours (probably closer to 30 but i cant guage it that well as i’ve been at work all day) and behold:
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Post by: Stephen on April 26, 2018, 12:36:43 am
I enjoyed watching the videos Iain  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 26, 2018, 06:46:45 am
Thanks Stephen :)
The best ones i managed to get, you shouldve seen the others lol  *grin*
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Post by: Stephen on April 26, 2018, 08:57:55 am
Thanks Stephen :)
The best ones i managed to get, you should've seen the others lol  *grin*
lol  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 29, 2018, 08:52:24 pm
Ok so i may have started WW3 in my 100l this afternoon...it was short lived as i’ve sorted the issue.
We decided to shift a few of our stock about again, as my 3y/old male platy although ok still seemed to get chased a bit by Jayne (apisto cac) and Jesse (the plattail, when he’s having a moody day, Jaynes just always moody!) and also in the past few days Jesse has been a bit more rough with the little blue male platy.
So plan was move the 3y/old male and blue platy to the 54l, so all the platies are together. The other move was shifting Arnie (hi fin plattail) from the 54l to the 100l with Jesse. This is where the fun begins.
Caught the 3y/old male fairly easily, also managed to get Arnie to more or less just swim into the net. The little blue male however was an absolute nightmare, although he did show me that SJP has potentially been digging under the wide part of the arch wood as theres a little cavern under it that tunnels out a bit. Either way after nigh on destroying the 100l to catch him and taking about 40mins on just him, the move was complete.
This is where the trouble starts...
Once the lights came on and Jesse and Arnie found each other they immediately launched into attempting to batter one another, in true swordtail fashion (definitely got that from their mum!)
It was both awful and fascinating to watch at the same time, the flared fins and shimmying before darting at one another trying to knock lumps out one another.
Either way as i didnt have time to catch either one of them at this point, i put the tank on blackout until i got back. So once I returned home (about half hour later) i set about catching Arnie, which again turned out surprisingly easy, however i did have a moment of panic. He was ok when i put the lights on, but when i came back from gathering my bits and setting things in place, he was on his side on the right hand side of the tank. However he was fine, and within a few mins i got him back in the 54l. And all is back to being peaceful.
So adjusted stock looks like this:

180l:
6 female platies (Pearl, Akoya, Flo[dolphies legacy], half’n’half, pearl’s doppelgänger and Pearl’s doppelgänger 2)
1 male apisto cacatuoides (Bubba)

100l:
1 male apisto cacatuoides (Jayne, Bubba’s son)
1 male plat-tail (Jesse, Arnie’s brother)
1 female albino BN pleco (Sarah Jessica Parker or SJP for short)

54l:
1 male plat-tail (Arnie, Jesse’s brother)
4 male platies (the 3y/old male, 2 dwarved males [one named Crooks as he’s slight deformed in his spine], the blue male
1 male pseudomugil signifer (Jeff)

If you’ve got all that well done :)
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Post by: Misty on April 29, 2018, 10:23:07 pm
Oh that’s a big move :-) and glad they all settled now.
Yep catching them is not always easy. I had one fish who would voluntarily swim into my hand every time I put my hand in the water, but the rest get petrified at the first sight of the fish net
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 29, 2018, 10:31:21 pm
Yeah it didnt go quite to plan but its better than having anyone picked on or fighting.
Its funny you say about the hand thing, i reckon i could hand feed Bubba, i have fed him using tweezers before now just for the fun of it, he’s quite powerful even at the end of the tweezers!
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Post by: Misty on April 29, 2018, 10:55:38 pm
They do learn don’t they? :)
I’ve read somewhere that you can “teach” them swim through hoops, i.e. they ll have to swim through the hoop to get to the food, and after a while they ll get classically conditioned. I haven’t tried it though.
When I had fish when I was a child, I used to ring a bell every time I fed them, and after a while they would eagerly come up to the surface to the sound of the bell
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Post by: TopCookie on April 29, 2018, 11:07:00 pm
The bickering/fighting/squabbling thing is not fun, eh...  :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 29, 2018, 11:18:02 pm
They do learn don’t they? :)
I’ve read somewhere that you can “teach” them swim through hoops, i.e. they ll have to swim through the hoop to get to the food, and after a while they ll get classically conditioned. I haven’t tried it though.
When I had fish when I was a child, I used to ring a bell every time I fed them, and after a while they would eagerly come up to the surface to the sound of the bell

Yeah Oscars are renowned for it, but fish (i read this somewhere a while back) have a memory of around 3 months, so if you do the same thing in a certain way with them eg feeding through a hoop. If you sddenly stop it they will repeat the behavior for some time afterwards, and if you dont leave it too long they will remember what happened before and restart the same behavior.

The bickering/fighting/squabbling thing is not fun, eh...  :(

Not really, like i say it was fascinating to watch in one light, but even though they are both crosses you could see the male swordtail attitude come out in them. But Arnie’s fins did look fantastic flared on end and shimmering   *grin*
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Post by: _pjn312_ on April 30, 2018, 08:06:50 am
The 'shimmering' on territorial fish is definitely impressive, and slightly scary too sometimes! :)
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Post by: TopCookie on April 30, 2018, 11:14:23 am
Now that the actual bickering is less enthusiastic, I've started to really enjoy that macho display from the RPTs in my lot...  Fins out in full peacock mode display looks fantastic...   thumbsup
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 30, 2018, 11:27:34 am
Yeah its all good as long as they’re not battering each other lol
Anyway SJP in her new custom digout under the arched wood:
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Post by: TopCookie on April 30, 2018, 11:31:02 am
Lovely markings/colouration on him there GL...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 30, 2018, 12:18:41 pm
Thanks TC, althouh she might not thank you for that comment lol  *grin*
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Post by: TopCookie on April 30, 2018, 12:22:06 pm
lolol, I get mixed up with which one is called what and which are the girls and the boys etc...  I'm just an old fart with a shocking memory...   roflmao
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 30, 2018, 12:30:03 pm
 roflmao it doesnt help when i have males with girls names either  *grin*;)
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Post by: Misty on April 30, 2018, 07:46:09 pm
lolol, I get mixed up with which one is called what and which are the girls and the boys etc... 

Lol if you want an extensive account, turn to page 60 ;-)

roflmao it doesnt help when i have males with girls names either  *grin*;)
And I've fallen for that trap :-P
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Post by: _pjn312_ on May 01, 2018, 07:40:16 am
Confusing innit!
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Post by: Calmwaters on May 06, 2018, 04:41:05 pm
The ongoing tribulations. SJP is making a nice little spot for herself. All are looking good though GL :D


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 12, 2018, 05:49:06 pm
Sad times today, lost our first generation male platy (around 3 years old)  *bye3*
He had been hanging around the surface a fair bit for a couple of days but not in a worrying way, as he would go and join the other boys around the tank. He was eating although not as excitedly as the others (but he was about a year older).
He went while i was doing the changes today, he was behind the filter when i started the change on the 54l, but it was only when he came out he seemed to be a bit unbalanced and uncontrolled with his swimming, so i continued with the water change thinking he may not last so i would have to get the clove oil out :/ however during the change he had a few awkward swims before coming to rest on the bottom and stopping  *bye3*
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Post by: Misty on May 12, 2018, 06:54:21 pm
Sorry to hear about your loss :-(
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Post by: TopCookie on May 12, 2018, 10:44:21 pm
Sorry to hear this one Iain...  must be worse when it's a fish you've had for a long time... 
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 13, 2018, 12:07:24 am
Its just pretty sad as its only him and Pearl left from our first batches of fry that we had after we first started fishkeeping. He was getting on a bit, so the one condolence is he’s had quite a long and happy (i hope) life. Funny though, we never named him!  *blink*
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Post by: Misty on May 13, 2018, 06:25:33 am
Sometimes it can be comforting to think that you’ve done everything you could to take a good care of him, he had a good life, and he will always remain in your memory
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Post by: Stephen on May 13, 2018, 03:31:28 pm
Sorry to hear of your loss Iain.  :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 16, 2018, 03:50:39 pm
Well we have the end of an era and generation. We lost Pearl overnight *bye3*
Its almost as if it’s in sympathy of her brother (think she was a bit older than him). She wasnt looking too clever last night, seemed as if she was having trouble keeping herself up, and had to keep resting before moving again. So i had planned to setup the QT so she got some peace. But when i checked this morning, she was completely still in the corner with Bubba, he almost seemed to be guarding her. So i can only say she went to sleep and never woke up as there was no marks or damage to her.
Either way she was the last of our first born fry that we kept, we still have her daughters/grandkids/and great grandkids (the fry tank).
RIP to our blue Pearl  *bye3*
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Post by: Theycallitguppylove on May 16, 2018, 03:56:43 pm
Awww sorry for your loss
☹️
The end of one era signifies the start of a new one x
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Post by: kelynrowan on May 16, 2018, 04:00:22 pm
Sorry for your loss :( she looked like she had lovely colours and markings
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Post by: Mossyboy on May 16, 2018, 04:07:03 pm
Sorry GL.   :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 16, 2018, 04:10:30 pm
Thanks guys
Sorry for your loss :( she looked like she had lovely colours and markings

She was a blue (very blue compared to some of the others ive seen) wagtail mickeymouse mixup lol
We have two daughters/granddaughters that are similar, but they dont have  as much blue or pattern to them.
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Post by: Suelo on May 16, 2018, 04:58:54 pm
Sorry for your loss Iain, she was a lovely girl  :(
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Post by: TopCookie on May 16, 2018, 05:41:47 pm
 *sorry*
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Post by: _pjn312_ on May 16, 2018, 07:07:25 pm
So sorry for your loss Iain :(
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Post by: MattHunt on May 16, 2018, 11:13:12 pm
That's sad, sorry to hear that.

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Post by: piker on May 16, 2018, 11:49:32 pm
Sorry for the loss, hopefully the genes will throw back down the line, was a stunning blue.

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Post by: TopCookie on May 17, 2018, 11:15:14 am
Will you replace them both Iain, or simply let the inevitable fry take their place etc...?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 17, 2018, 12:31:57 pm
Thanks everyone
No were not going to replace them. The fry we have we’re going to keep moving on (have some ready to go now saying that). But we want to bring our stock down to a compatible level so we can upgrade to one big tank (and probably a small one and a QT lol) and get everyone together without any fighting or ending up overrun with fry.
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Post by: TopCookie on May 17, 2018, 01:55:28 pm
...upgrade to one big tank ...

Uh oh...  ;)
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Post by: Misty on May 17, 2018, 10:36:40 pm
Sorry about your loss GL...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 17, 2018, 11:29:16 pm
Thanks Misty
...upgrade to one big tank ...

Uh oh...  ;)

Dont worry wont be for a while yet (could be well over a year!), gotta manage to reduce from 4 tanks to one. Cant put Arnie and Jesse together or they will fight, same for Bubba and Jayne (unless really carefully ‘scaped, which i’m not willing to risk). Then theres the breeding between the male platies, Arnie and Jesse and the female platies...
And then theres sorting the actual tank we’re going to go for *blink* plenty of planning to do!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 21, 2018, 03:53:20 pm
SJP antics...
I’ll do a proper update later  *grin*
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Post by: Suelo on May 21, 2018, 04:16:09 pm
 *grin*  *grin*  *grin*
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Post by: Misty on May 21, 2018, 05:15:43 pm
Lol she is hilarious!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 22, 2018, 12:08:54 am
Ok so update time.
Everything has been quiet since the recent losses, the tanks all seem quiet, but the stocking is quite low (6 fish in the 180l, 3 in the 100l and 5 in the 54l). It is nice though as everyone seems to have room so they all seem pretty happy :)
On another note after we lost the female apistos and we had the ph rise etc we have also had a bit more algae than usual and the plants havent been as perky, so i’ve had a bit more of a read up of the EI dosing and our water report. As i found out if both micro and macro are dosed at the same time (i always dosed them alternately) creates a compound that cant be used by the plants, so its another element that just sits in the water potentially screwing with the parameters (in my thoughts anyway). Also hard water tends to contain some of the nutrients found in the ferts so they may not need to be added.
So my thoughts have been that there may have been an excess of nutrients which has built up the compound the plants couldnt use, potentially raising the ph (or maybe even the over all TDS), causing the algae. Welcome to my mind!   *grin*
So for the past few weeks I haven’t dose any ferts at all, just added a bit of liquid carbon when i’ve done the water changes to help (hopefully) kill off a bit more of the algae. Let me know what you think.
Anyway if you’ve kept up with that here’s some pics and videos, the 54l is missing as its been rather sunny the algae has built up on the glass a bit quickly. Enjoy :)

The 180l:
https://youtu.be/EuEVPZJhN9U

The 100l:
https://youtu.be/EZODAMX8NIw

Fry tank:
https://youtu.be/O7w8mvPLGys

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Post by: Stephen on May 22, 2018, 02:03:01 pm
All looking good Iain  *applause*
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Post by: Suelo on May 22, 2018, 03:05:03 pm
All looking very serene  *grin*

Are you thinking of keeping the fry with the twin bars on the tail?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 22, 2018, 04:29:12 pm
Thanks both :)

Are you thinking of keeping the fry with the twin bars on the tail?

I had thought about it, and did say to my OH about it, but i think we’re going to let her go, not totally sure. Its only because when we first had fry we were keeping some of the ones we liked, then we missed the one late developing male and ended up with the hundreds :/
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Post by: Suelo on May 22, 2018, 06:28:12 pm
Good point, I understand.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 30, 2018, 09:53:14 pm
Moved on a group of 7 platy fry today, including “Bonus”. Hopefully they will enjoy their new home.
The fry tank is looking fairly empty now, but theres a few lil ones kicking about that we need to grow up a bit more. I’m going to have to be vigilant with my timing now with this lot so we dont end up with another batch (or 6 of fry)
Either way heres some pics from before and after, enjoy :)

https://youtu.be/rLFxyDzkr_0

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 06, 2018, 12:03:52 am
Water change day today so i thought i’d get some pics now they’re clean(er). I decided to move a couple of crypts about, one in the 180l and 2 in the 100l. Also decided to swap the pebbles back over between the two tanks, so SJP has some fres algae to munch on, although Jesse has already had a go at the one (see pics, 2nd pebble with 2 crypts i moved).
Otherwise Jeff (my remaining signifer) has something up with his left eye, it looked a bit off colour the other day but it now looks like a white patch, cant really tell if the eye is bulging and i couldn’t  get a good pic of it as he wouldn’t face the right way for long enough. I have dropped a bit of melafix in as its the only med i have to hand that mentions anything about eye issues. I cant find any info on it yet either and I’ll try and get a pic tomorrow. He’s still eating normally and swimming around his open area so it doesnt appear to be bothering him yet...
Anyway here’s some pics, including Jayne playing pickaboo with me (last but one pic on this post)  *grin*

[pic guide in order: (1) 180l full tank (2,3)Bubba posing (4) Akoya (5) Akoya and the 2 doppelgänger (6) half’n’half, Flo [Dolphie’s legacy], one of the doppelgängers and the crypt i moved (7) crypt moved in 180l (8) 100l full tank (9) Jayne playing (10) Jesse
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 06, 2018, 12:20:13 am
Continued  *grin*
[pic guide: (1,2) SJP hiding and out (3) furry pebble (4) 2nd pebble and moved crypts (5) 54l full tank (6,7) platy boys and Arnie (8,9) platy boys (10) fry tank full shot
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 06, 2018, 12:21:48 am
Last few of the fry :)
[Pic guide: (1,2) reamaining fry
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Post by: Felix Waffles on June 06, 2018, 01:18:12 am
Love the pics!

Currently getting ideas for my new tank and your's have given me some cool ideas  thumbsup

Also what fish is Bubba? Red Honey Goruami? I tried to find a reference for him but I must of missed it.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 06, 2018, 07:25:24 am
Love the pics!

Currently getting ideas for my new tank and your's have given me some cool ideas  thumbsup

Also what fish is Bubba? Red Honey Goruami? I tried to find a reference for him but I must of missed it.

Thanks Felix :)
Bubba and Jayne are both Apistogramma Cacatuoides or cockatoo cichlids :) Jayne is Bubba’s son (not female despite the name   *grin*)
Glad I’ve given you some ideas, hopefully you’ll pull them off better than me  *grin*
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Post by: Felix Waffles on June 06, 2018, 04:14:02 pm
No way your tanks look awesome!

Ah that's a shame, I won't be able to keep them with my guppies  *bye3*

Either way he looks amazing, love the colors!

EDIT

On second thoughts maybe I could actually keep them with guppies, I originally had them on my list of fish to get but for some reason took them off.

What's your opinion on them with guppies, also are they best in groups or can they be singles?
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Post by: Stephen on June 06, 2018, 04:28:33 pm
Lots of great pics Iain  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 06, 2018, 05:21:45 pm
Lots of great pics Iain  *grin*

Thanks Stephen, got a little camera happy lol  *grin* talking of which...

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 06, 2018, 05:23:09 pm
Didnt take SJP too long...
Also a few bonus ones of Jayne
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 06, 2018, 05:29:25 pm
No way your tanks look awesome!

Ah that's a shame, I won't be able to keep them with my guppies  *bye3*

Either way he looks amazing, love the colors!

EDIT

On second thoughts maybe I could actually keep them with guppies, I originally had them on my list of fish to get but for some reason took them off.

What's your opinion on them with guppies, also are they best in groups or can they be singles?

Not sure about them with guppies as Jayne took out a few of my p. signifer (i think) and theres not a lot in size between the two, plus guppies have the flowing fins. Bubba is a lot calmer than Jayne and doesnt bother anyone but he is in a larger tank. Both my boys are singles now but we did have females and they did breed (hence Jayne being Bubba’s son), and its something we might look into in the future. The breeding and parental care is ace to watch.
In fairness if the guppies stay near the surface and theres enough room, caves and places for the apistos, you may not have any issue but it would essentially come down to the individual(s) fish themselves.
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Post by: Stephen on June 06, 2018, 05:48:36 pm
(https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=223674.0;attach=651946;image)

Smile  *grin*
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Post by: marispiper on June 07, 2018, 08:56:41 am
He is just beautiful!
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Post by: TopCookie on June 10, 2018, 12:01:48 am
That's a stunning fish...!!!   thumbsup
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Post by: Theycallitguppylove on June 10, 2018, 08:32:52 am
Omg he’s stunning!!!


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 10, 2018, 12:16:14 pm
Thanks guys :)
He is very pretty, just wish i could catch him at full flare. Trouble with that is he only does it just before he tells Jesse to bugger off lol
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Post by: Misty on June 10, 2018, 05:15:19 pm
Lovely photos GL.
Oh life would have been so much easier if fish loved posing for pix ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 24, 2018, 10:04:53 pm
Not much to update, continued my war on the algae in the 180l.
Had a big clip back of just about everything, threw out nearly all the water lettuce (the roots didnt look great), a filter clean and some evolution aqua aquarium balls added (there was only some tiny ones left!) and a dose of liquid carbon.
I’ve also called in the reinforcements! never thought we’d see Bubba look small!  roflmao
(Also notice the “floating” java fern in front of the filter)
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Post by: TopCookie on June 24, 2018, 10:36:04 pm
Great pics GL...  :)    Just emerging from some major algae wars myself, too... 
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 28, 2018, 11:22:28 am
Spot the difference  *grin*
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Post by: plankton on June 29, 2018, 08:48:45 am
Lighting shade is different, Bubba has moved, as have SJP and reflections....
...oh, and there's less algae ;) :P *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 29, 2018, 01:00:36 pm
Lighting shade is different, Bubba has moved, as have SJP and reflections....
...oh, and there's less algae ;) :P *grin*

Very observant Ian ;)
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Post by: plankton on June 30, 2018, 09:28:34 am
I forgot one thing - someone's knocked the thermometer awry..... *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 30, 2018, 09:17:03 pm
Lost Jeff today, the last of the signifers  *bye3*
He had something wrong with his eye but it appeared to be clearing up the past few days, but just got home from work to find him on the bottom  *bye3*:(
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Post by: Suelo on June 30, 2018, 11:13:21 pm
Sorry for your loss Iain  :(
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Post by: _pjn312_ on July 01, 2018, 06:41:51 am
Sorry to hear :(
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Post by: Misty on July 01, 2018, 10:39:40 am
Sorry for your loss...
You know you took a good care of him and Jeff had a good life...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 13, 2018, 01:11:23 am
Well i have a what is probably the penultimate photos and videos (yes multiple! Not that they’re any good! Lmao) of the fry tank before we move them on (ad here: https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php/topic,273204.msg3348500/topicseen.html#new).
The water lettuce hasnt seemed to have liked the heat wave as loads of the leaves had yellowed/died off which has resulted in me removing a lot of it.
Either way hope the pics and videos entertain (otherwise I’ve just wasted at least 5mins of your time, sorry...   *grin* )

https://youtu.be/ySRtzBbmK2M

https://youtu.be/_2gu8fYwzVk

PS Ever seen a ticklish pleco? SJP apparently is...

https://youtu.be/xVw-QFBt86U
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Post by: Suelo on July 13, 2018, 06:32:33 am
It will be the end of an era when those last fry go to new homes!

And SJP - that is so funny!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 13, 2018, 09:53:00 am
Definitely Suelo :) its been about 3-3.5years since it all started, and although were happy we finally have things settled and it will be nice to have a break, i know i will miss having them about to look after (that might just be habit though  *grin*).
As for SJP I discovered it the other day, cracked my OH up with it. Just me being daft with my fish, i had Bubba chasing my finger about pecking it at the surface. Pretty amusing watching him hunt. He also comes out from under the log/comes to the front if you wave at him from across the room (my OH discovered that) Like i say daft things i (or we) try with our fish  *grin*
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Post by: Suelo on July 13, 2018, 03:27:25 pm
I think you might miss the platy fry. We've not has any babies survive for a year now, and I think we all miss spotting them and watching them grow. I don't think I miss them enough to purposefully breed more though!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 13, 2018, 03:40:35 pm
Thats just it we had hundreds without trying, I imagine we’d be able to supply shops if we did it purposefully  roflmao
Saying that, we’re not quitting on the breeding, once these have been moved on, my OH wants to see if we have more sucess with the apistos. So we plan on using the fry tank as a QT for any new additions, hopefully we might prevent what happened last time  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 22, 2018, 08:10:51 pm
So thats the end of it, the last 13 have gone to their new home and our fry tank is now empty (of fish at least). Just got to empty it and clean it down now. But thats us down to 3 tanks again (at least temporarily).
Everyone else is ok, although Arnie is looking a bit down. He’s around 2.5years old so i wonder if its age and possible issues of being crossbred. He’s still eating like a swordtail/platy (not sure which is worse lol). So i’ll be keeping an eye on him.
I have some pics of the 180l and the 100l and the last few rough pics of the fry. The 54l needs (another) algae scrub (the trouble with it being in the morning sun!). I would have some videos but youtube is being a complete PITA for me lately, and i cant figure out why...
Anyway here’s the pics:
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Post by: Stephen on July 24, 2018, 11:58:44 am
Nice pics Iain and all looks good  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 24, 2018, 01:59:04 pm
Thanls Stephen :)
Its been a bit strange not going in and checking on and feeding the fry.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 26, 2018, 01:02:32 pm
We lost Arnie today :(
Found him this morning on the bottom, curved, still breathing but obviously suffering. So I had to put a stop to his suffering (it never gets easier!).
Whats worried me is between Jeff’s eye and now Arnie going down so fast, i also noticed that Arnie had a white dot near his anal fin so I’m wondering if theres something suspicious in the tank, so i have dosed some interpet #9 (its not called that anymore but its the same one!).
Anyway here’s a couple of pics (luckily, as i’ve lost a lot of pics, THANKS APPLE! GREAT UPDATE!  :censored2:) of Arnie in his better days
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Post by: Suelo on July 26, 2018, 02:04:20 pm
I'm so sorry to hear about Arnie, he was a very handsome fish :(

I hope that all is well in the rest of the tank, maybe if Arnie was starting to get unwell it allowed a spot of fungus to take hold.
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Post by: Mossyboy on July 26, 2018, 02:07:40 pm
Sorry for your loss GL. Great pics.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 26, 2018, 02:41:11 pm
Thanks both.
I’m questioning a lot of things as he was 2.5years old and a cross, but being over cautious with the last 3 male platies (they’re not far off the same age but not crosses), especially after Jeff’s (my last signifer) eye as i never worked out what that was.
But for now they all look ok, pestering each other, feel a bit sorry for the blue one as he always hung around with the big orange guys (Sly and Arnie), theres only Jesse left of the 3 brothers now. We might see about moving the 3 to my 100l (we’ll be leaving it a bit to make sure things are ok first) and then shut down the 54l.
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Post by: Misty on July 26, 2018, 10:09:48 pm
Sorry to hear GL :-(
Hope the rest are ok...
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Post by: Stephen on July 26, 2018, 10:51:42 pm
Sorry to hear you lost Arnie mate  :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 09, 2018, 01:54:11 pm
Just SJP proving she can destroy a cucumber...
And a little friend who greeted me on my way into the garden the other night :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 09, 2018, 09:27:42 pm
Father and son (Bubba and Jayne). Bubba was showing off at a bit of pepper we put in for SJP (think its the red colour lol) And Jayne with his face only a mother could love  *grin* roflmao
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Post by: Stephen on August 09, 2018, 10:47:28 pm
Your apistos are great Iain  thumbsup2
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 10, 2018, 12:03:36 am
Thanks Stephen :)
My OH is totally in love with Bubba (she did pick him after all), she discovered she can “play” with him as he chases her finger when she runs it through the water lettuce, he also caught her out and nipped her finger which made her jump and me well... roflmao
Bubba is such a character and so calm and trusting of us :) Jayne is like his mum with his attitude (anything in a couple of inches is to close and you only get one warning!) but i would expect anything less from something so pretty lol
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 17, 2018, 11:01:15 pm
Anyway in the continuing war on the snails and what ever may have been wrong in there, the three boys have spent some time hiding and just generally looking down. Not sure if its just that because Arnie or Jeff aren’t out and about anymore. Anyway i’ve continued with a second course of the interpet #9 and went on a big snail hunt the other day while doing the water change. No idea how many i pulled out but after putting my fingers ina couple of clusters of eggs i lost my nut a tad.... :censored2:
Filled a bucket with hot (as hot as i could make it!) water and dumped the two bits of wood and java ferns in (hoping the java ferns would forgive me) and make some chlorinated escargot!   *grin*
So while i was at it I thought I would have a bit of a rearrange to see if it brought the boys out more. Either way i dont know what has worked but they do seem much perkier and out and about more. So heres the updated 54l, my only thoughts are i might move the big crypt on the left to the back right corner. Let me know your thoughts :)
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Post by: Mossyboy on August 18, 2018, 08:08:36 pm
I like it just the way it is, looks great GL.
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Post by: _pjn312_ on August 19, 2018, 09:22:31 am
*agree*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 19, 2018, 11:33:07 pm
Just a couple of pics of all 3 tanks. I would’ve got some close ups of the 100l but Jayne was making a mess munching on pellets and sand and Jesse was literally being a big Jessy and decided to hide once he realised i was trying to take photos  *rolleyes* did get a good one (i think) of SJP after she stashed her wafer from the platies, clever girl!  *grin* *applause*
Either way hope you enjoy :)
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Post by: Stephen on August 20, 2018, 11:39:48 am
Iain you inspired me to look at my plants and décor and I have now rearranged the décor a little and uprooted and replanted the plants.

 *grin*  *grin*  *grin*

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Anyway in the continuing war on the snails ...
Talking about snails ....  :(
I bought some corydoras several months ago from my LFS and noticed some tiny MTS in the bottom of the bag.
I tipped the bag in to a container, acclimatised the fish, then carefully netted the fish (to avoid the snails) to go in to the main tank.
I have picked out about 7 fairly large MTS (almost 1 inch) and about 12 or so smaller MTS from my once snail-free tank.
I spot them late in the evening when the lights have been off for a few hours, I turn the lights on and grab them with my long tweezers.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 20, 2018, 01:58:49 pm
Iain you inspired me to look at my plants and décor and I have now rearranged the décor a little and uprooted and replanted the plants.

 *grin*  *grin*  *grin*

Thanks Stephen :) its nice to hear i inspired you, I’ll be interested to see how you’ve rescaped yours :)

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Talking about snails ....  :(
I bought some corydoras several months ago from my LFS and noticed some tiny MTS in the bottom of the bag.
I tipped the bag in to a container, acclimatised the fish, then carefully netted the fish (to avoid the snails) to go in to the main tank.
I have picked out about 7 fairly large MTS (almost 1 inch) and about 12 or so smaller MTS from my once snail-free tank.
I spot them late in the evening when the lights have been off for a few hours, I turn the lights on and grab them with my long tweezers.

Thats unlucky :/ i know you like your tanks snail free. MTS can multiply quite well (Ian’s tanks are a prime example of a good MTS population). Mine unfortunately are bladder snails and I’m sure they’re worse than my platies for breeding! i’ve picked them out on numerous occasions and i think i’m getting somewhere now (especially after the other day ;) ), just gotta get them as i see them now.
I reckon mine come in with a bit of cabomba that i had off Newbiefishkeeper when i got SJP (my BN), didnt rinse the cabomba enough before putting it in the tank, and it died off after a while (probably my fault lol).
Hope you get to the bottom of your snail problem soon!
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Post by: Stephen on August 20, 2018, 02:12:43 pm

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Anyway in the continuing war on the snails ...
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Talking about snails ....  :(
I bought some corydoras several months ago from my LFS and noticed some tiny MTS in the bottom of the bag.
I tipped the bag in to a container, acclimatised the fish, then carefully netted the fish (to avoid the snails) to go in to the main tank.
I have picked out about 7 fairly large MTS (almost 1 inch) and about 12 or so smaller MTS from my once snail-free tank.
I spot them late in the evening when the lights have been off for a few hours, I turn the lights on and grab them with my long tweezers.

Thats unlucky :/ i know you like your tanks snail free. MTS can multiply quite well (Ian’s tanks are a prime example of a good MTS population). Mine unfortunately are bladder snails and I’m sure they’re worse than my platies for breeding! i’ve picked them out on numerous occasions and i think i’m getting somewhere now (especially after the other day ;) ), just gotta get them as i see them now.
I reckon mine come in with a bit of cabomba that i had off Newbiefishkeeper when i got SJP (my BN), didnt rinse the cabomba enough before putting it in the tank, and it died off after a while (probably my fault lol).
Hope you get to the bottom of your snail problem soon!
I do like my tank to be snail free and it had been for a few years until now.
I'm not over-populated with them but I will keep an eye on them at night.
I do see them on the wood or very close to the wood. I will remove the wood and give it a good scrub periodically then a rinse with boiling water.

I am starting to come round to the idea that some snails are a benefit in the tank (as I cringe) and a part of the eco-system (as I cringe again).
The MTS are actually quite nice (as I further cringe) much better than bladder snails.

I'm going for a lie down, this is too much .....  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 20, 2018, 03:09:11 pm
 roflmao i’ve thought the same thing, as much as i dont like them i have been fascinated watching them clean the glass and plants. Its my OH that really doesnt like them, i just find them a bit unsightly. Although i seen a rabbit snail (think thats right) in the flesh the other week and that was weird to watch moving about, even my OH was a bit fascinated  *grin* (still not getting any though I believe was the words lol).
I’m hoping to get rid of them so i can use the plants etc in our other tanks which my OH will not allow with them being about :/
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Post by: Stephen on August 20, 2018, 03:22:26 pm
The rabbit snails are quite nice but they're nowhere near as big as apple snails.

rabbit snails
(https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=223674.0;attach=656492;image)

apple snail
(https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=223674.0;attach=656496;image)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 20, 2018, 05:06:14 pm
Yeah i dont think i will ever convince her (or even myself) on apple snails, imagine an infestation that size!? I’d only need about 4 and the 54l would be overrun! roflmao
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Post by: _pjn312_ on August 21, 2018, 07:59:20 am
That's a big snail!
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Post by: Stephen on August 21, 2018, 08:35:20 am
I have picked out about 7 fairly large MTS (almost 1 inch) and about 12 or so smaller MTS from my once snail-free tank.
I spot them late in the evening when the lights have been off for a few hours, I turn the lights on and grab them with my long tweezers.
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I do like my tank to be snail free and it had been for a few years until now.
I'm not over-populated with them but I will keep an eye on them at night.
I do see them on the wood or very close to the wood. I will remove the wood and give it a good scrub periodically then a rinse with boiling water.
I saw a few tiny ones on a piece of wood late last night so I removed the wood and gave a little scrub and rinsed in boiling water.
All this at 1.00am. I'm getting paranoid  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 21, 2018, 08:51:04 am
Maybe just a little Stephen ;)
Cant remember what i was doing at 1am, but it wasnt catching snails (although that might’ve been more fun  roflmao, rough nightshift!)
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Post by: Stephen on August 21, 2018, 08:56:57 am
Maybe just a little Stephen ;)
Cant remember what i was doing at 1am, but it wasnt catching snails (although that might’ve been more fun  roflmao, rough nightshift!)
roflmao
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Post by: Suelo on August 21, 2018, 09:36:52 am
You guys will be very jealous/think I am mad  :bite: My snail population is so low that I return any snails to the tank that I do siphon up or find on plants that I remove. I even purposely introduced my MTS...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 21, 2018, 02:56:10 pm
Your living on the right side of the border Suelo so we know your mad!  *grin*
Your water is a lot softer than mine, i would suspect that may have something to do with it (limited amount of calcium compared to the lumps in my water! Lol). The irony is, i bet if it was the other way round, i’d be struggling to keep them  roflmao
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Post by: Suelo on August 21, 2018, 05:15:02 pm
It may be my water, but it's the same in both my tanks (even the 10 dGH one), and I have cuttlefish in both tanks.  I had an absolute explosion of bladder snails & ramshorn in the first six months I had the tank (my generous overfeeding I think). Now, I have a few quite big bladder snails, but I've not seen a ramshorn for ages. I know my Gourami is very fond of snail eggs & chases the platies away from any he finds, but I think the Amano shrimp must out compete them too.

Anyway, I'm not complaining - I don't mind the handful I have, but I'm not looking to actively increase them!
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Post by: Calmwaters on August 21, 2018, 09:55:07 pm
Not been on for a while (just been hectic) but just read through your log GL & so sorry to read about your recent losses :(
SJP being ticklish cracked me up! Bubba & Jane are awesome looking fish for sure. Everyone else looking great too, well done re-homing all the fry.
Good luck with your snail hunting :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 27, 2018, 11:06:54 pm
Thanks CW, nice to see you and as long as its good hectic, hope things are well with you.
The java ferns in the 54l haven’t quite forgiven me, quite a bit of leaf loss lately, hopefully they will grow back if not theres normally a few kicking about in the 180l and 100l  *grin*
Anyway a little game...
Spot SJP...
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Post by: Calmwaters on August 30, 2018, 09:45:04 pm
Yeah I’m all good thanks, just hectic life, nothing major lol.

Is that SJP doing a good drift wood impression centre right??


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 31, 2018, 12:29:08 am
She is just off centre, but not in her entirety ;)
I think shes doing a pretty good java fern impression myself though ;)
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Post by: Calmwaters on August 31, 2018, 09:55:54 pm
She’s a BN Chameleon :)


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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 04, 2018, 05:39:11 pm
Has it really been over a month since i last updated this?!
Suppose it shows how little has been going on lol.
Anyway..we were away for a week in Mallorca/Majorca (which ever one you use), so we had our friends stay and look after the house, cats and fish while we were away. Gave them instructions on feeding the fish, as well as a demo of amounts (which they videoed), and told them if they’re unsure about feeding them one day etc dont feed them it will cause less problems with them not being fed as overfeeding cause more mess etc. Anyway my brilliant friends (i’m being truthful btw) noticed that my tank (the 100l) was getting a bit thick with algae on the front glass and looking dirty because of it. So because the algae went a bit mad they didnt feed them for the last day/reduced the feeding amount on the last couple of days Big Grin I love my friends! They do listen even when im rambling on about the fish! Lol
Right now for the tank update, we are now in the middle of shutting down the 54l.  After an extensive QT period after Arnie, the boys have perked up and are all looking well. So yesterday while doing the water changes, i moved the 3 boys into the 100l with Jesse and Jayne. Jesse now has a little posse that follow him around, Jayne was not happy (when he is ever though...), although he has left them alone unless they get too close to his area. It has so far had a postive effect on the tank though as Jesse is now out and about a lot more, as is the little blue platy and Jayne has brightened up (displaying all his colours!) and showing off his war paint lol
Anyway here’s a couple of pics, only Bubba was out in the 180l, the platies were scrapping over the remenants of an algae wafer behind the wood. The pic of SJP was yesterday morning, Bubba just lurking underneath if you look carfeully.
Also try and spot Jayne in the full tank shot of the 100l....he is there...
Pic guide: 1) 180l full 2) Bubba 3) SJP and Bubba (just) 4) 100l full tank 5&6) 100l group shot 7-9) Jayne showing off (and the little blue platy).
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Post by: Misty on October 05, 2018, 06:23:51 pm
Nice pics!  thumbsup2
Oh and you are very lucky with friends. I left my fish under care of my OH when I went away, showed him what to do, left the most detailed instructions one could think of. And what did he do? "Forgot" to turn the filter back on
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 05, 2018, 07:14:58 pm
Cheers Misty :) i didnt ask my friends to do any changes. However they did ask a few questions about lights etc. Bet he wont forget again ;)
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Post by: Misty on October 09, 2018, 07:58:37 pm
Oh water changes can be a way to test the strength of your friendships ;) esp if they have to do the cleaning etc
Ah, my OH swore he’ll never do it again, and I think I’d be risking getting a heart attack if I ask him again, so I think we’ve reached a mutual conclusion that him and fish don’t work together :-S
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Post by: Gweeds on October 10, 2018, 02:42:10 pm
Stunning colours on the fish, beautiful.

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 10, 2018, 03:18:06 pm
Thanks Gweeds, not as colourful as your lot ;)
Oh water changes can be a way to test the strength of your friendships ;) esp if they have to do the cleaning etc
Ah, my OH swore he’ll never do it again, and I think I’d be risking getting a heart attack if I ask him again, so I think we’ve reached a mutual conclusion that him and fish don’t work together :-S

As long as you only mean it in that you can have the tanks and fish, he just doesnt want to have to touch them (a bit like my OH, although she will help happily :) ).
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Post by: Stephen on October 10, 2018, 07:29:05 pm
Some more great photos of your lovely fish Iain  thumbsup2
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 10, 2018, 08:34:52 pm
Thanks Stephen :)
I’ll try and get some of the female platies next time, they dont like the camera lately and run (or swim) from it lol
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 11, 2018, 11:33:33 pm
A couple of group shots from the 180l, the platy girls stayed out instead of running away from me for once lol *grin*
Sorry some of the girls are a little blurry, they wouldn’t stay still!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 13, 2018, 08:49:50 pm
What do we reckon is going here then? ;)
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Post by: Stephen on October 14, 2018, 08:34:49 am
What do we reckon is going here then? ;)
plec ?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 14, 2018, 11:40:45 am
Nope not quite, although the species is known for dwelling around the bottom and caves ;)
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Post by: Stephen on October 14, 2018, 09:48:40 pm
Nope not quite, although the species is known for dwelling around the bottom and caves ;)
Small cichlid such as Apisto?
I could be guessing all night  roflmao
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 14, 2018, 10:23:02 pm
Nope not quite, although the species is known for dwelling around the bottom and caves ;)
Small cichlid such as Apisto?
I could be guessing all night  roflmao

 roflmao
Well your right, and it only took you two goes  *yahoo*
We have arranged to pick up a female triple red cacatuoide in a fortnight. So i took the time yesterday to strip and empty the 54l, “boil” the wood for snails, clean each individual plant leaf and root for snail eggs, hydrogen peroxide dipped the lot then in some clean chlorinated water. Then it was a case of moving everything to the 65l (the previous fry tank), filling it and scaping it. I still have the filter to set up but thats easy enough and i have some TSS on hand and i’ll pinch a bit of media from one of the main tanks.
Plan is the quarantine the new female for around 6weeks minimum, then introduce Bubba (our older male apisto, dad of our last batch) and hopefully we can persuade them to breed  *grin*
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Post by: Stephen on October 14, 2018, 10:29:56 pm
Sounds exciting Iain and your doing some excellent preparation.  thumbsup2
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 14, 2018, 10:51:18 pm
Thanks Stephen :)
It is pretty exciting, and the breeding behaviour and parental care is amazing to watch. Its nice to have a plan and be prepared. We’re also being extra cautious with the quarantine after our last females didnt last long, we are also travelling 60mile each way, so we’re going to make a day of it (that sounds familiar to me ;) )
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Post by: Stephen on October 14, 2018, 10:58:05 pm
Thanks Stephen :)
It is pretty exciting, and the breeding behaviour and parental care is amazing to watch. Its nice to have a plan and be prepared. We’re also being extra cautious with the quarantine after our last females didnt last long, we are also travelling 60mile each way, so we’re going to make a day of it (that sounds familiar to me ;) )
60 miles which way? back towards Wales ?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 14, 2018, 11:00:16 pm
60miles north, a good run up the M1.
The familiarity is yourself travelling some mad distances for your fish ;)
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Post by: Stephen on October 14, 2018, 11:48:13 pm
60miles north, a good run up the M1.
The familiarity is yourself travelling some mad distances for your fish ;)
I know, I've done it a few times to get my fish. ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 23, 2018, 05:03:42 pm
New toy  *grin*
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Post by: Stephen on October 23, 2018, 10:42:41 pm
New toy  *grin*
I've got one of those  :tounge:
I've not used it on the tank yet but have the airline, airstones, non-reverse thingy etc..
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 23, 2018, 11:51:06 pm
New toy  *grin*
I've got one of those  :tounge:
I've not used it on the tank yet but have the airline, airstones, non-reverse thingy etc..

Mines up and running  :P
I have one outlet running the 180l through the 2 eheim adjustable diffusers (yep the diffusers are adjustable as well!) supplied (i already had most of the pipes and the t-piece in the pipe), and the other running the chest that's hidden in the 100l. I only had to get another check valve (or non return valve/“non reverse thingy”) and then it was playing about to get them positioned.
It does knock out some air, and also you cant leave one port open they both have to be “under load” so if your only running one air stone you’re  going to need a t-piece to join both pipes.
Anyway other than that it is pretty quiet, definitely quieter than our other air pump, here’s a short video, which ironically i think the air bubbles on the surface sound louder on the video than they do in person:

https://youtu.be/x5alUuurlRg

PS not sure what Jesse was jumping about...Jayne didn’t touch him (we have proof!  roflmao)
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Post by: Stephen on October 24, 2018, 08:27:21 am
I also have 2 x those air diffusers that come with the air pump ;)
I bought some extra non return valve/“non reverse thingy” just in case one got stuck which they sometimes do.


https://youtu.be/x5alUuurlRg

PS not sure what Jesse was jumping about...Jayne didn’t touch him (we have proof!  roflmao)
good one ! roflmao
Nice video too Iain.  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 24, 2018, 08:48:08 am
Thanks Stephen :)
If the non retun valves get stuck just give them a tap, that normally cures it  *grin* only needed the second one so i have one on both lines from each tank, i only had 1 before as it was a single output split between 3 airstones and 2 tanks lol
The diffusers are quite tidy looking i think, i didnt initially realise it all came with the pump lol
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Post by: Stephen on October 24, 2018, 09:33:42 am
Thanks Stephen :)
If the non retun valves get stuck just give them a tap, that normally cures it  *grin* only needed the second one so i have one on both lines from each tank, i only had 1 before as it was a single output split between 3 airstones and 2 tanks lol
The diffusers are quite tidy looking i think, i didnt initially realise it all came with the pump lol
Lol

I will get around to adding my air stones to the tank eventually, I have only had the excellent Eheim air pump for about 3-4 years. lol
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 28, 2018, 12:43:30 am
Ok so today pretty much went to plan :)
Set up the filter with media  and heater this morning in the 65l and left it running for the day while we were out.
We went up to the Peak District and then Chesterfield, which according to one part of google maps said it was 60miles and when you get to the navigation its 91miles, so the pretty much is what i thought was going to be a 120mile round trip turning into 180mile round trip (plus a detour).
Either way we took a little wander around (the detour) while we were up there so i thought i‘d share a couple of photos i got before my phone died (too much bluetooth and satnav usage and forgot my charger!   *d'oh* *rolleyes*
Also the bird on the log we found out is a dipper, who was doing a rather amusing dance when i spotted him (or her)  *grin*

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https://youtu.be/GSQ3UUz-p54

Once we had findished wandering, we headed to Apisto Aquatics in Chesterfield, to see Peter (the owner and breeder) and to pick up our new female apisto  *grin* the setup he has there is ace as he does it from home, with some stunning fish not limited to apistos although the borelli caught my OH’s eye, including bettas, discus, bns, numerous tetras including some of the most colourful baby emperor tetras (blues black and purples) i’ve seen :) but the setup is stunning and worth the trip.
We got out female apisto, got home and got her acclimatised over around 2hours, she wasn’t happy with the tank light initially (the room light bulb had blown, so had to get another one!). But at the end of the acclimatisation period you could see she was eager to get into the tank.
She instantly took up hiding in the left back corner, so we let her settle in the darkness for a while, before leaving the room light on to find she was exploring the tank quite happily. I decided to throw a couple more large handfuls of water lettuce in, and then turned the tank light on.
She has spent all evening very happily venturing around the tank, earlier it even looked as if she was trying to work out the limits of the tank and water and realising she has it all to herself :) she’s quite confident as well, as she was chasing my finger and also sat right in front of my nose (like Bubba does)  *grin*
She does look a bit different to our other females as she is of the gold variety, so no lateral line or black markings, although i have noticed she does have a blue/lilac colour to her fins at certain angles (you might be able to see it in the second vid).
Anyway here’s a quick pic, as she will not sit still! And a couple of videos for you to enjoy :)

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https://youtu.be/qwOsMvND9Z8
https://youtu.be/vxfnB9WyGSs
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Post by: Misty on October 28, 2018, 08:37:50 pm
Cute little fish with cute big eyes! She looks very curious and ready to explore in the 2nd video.

And nice views btw
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 28, 2018, 09:12:02 pm
Thanks Misty :)
She is very curious, already coming right up to the glass when we’re there, and like the boys, she doesnt seem fazed by us at all :) going to try hand/tweezer feeding her at some point.
The views are all i could get before my phone died lol  *grin*
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Post by: Stephen on October 28, 2018, 09:15:29 pm
I bet it was cold up in the Peak District.  *brrr*


Cute little cichlid that will soon grow.  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 28, 2018, 09:25:50 pm
Thanks Stephen:)
Yeah it was freezing!  (Around 6C i think) *brrr* and windy! But it was still awesome to walk around :) some of the views were stunning!
She is only small, the biggest of Peter’s batch of golds, and even when she has grown i expect Bubba and Jayne will still dwarf her, big buggers that they are  *grin*
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Post by: Gweeds on October 28, 2018, 11:06:17 pm
Gorgeous fish and some cracking pics there. Used to love getting out to the peaks when I lived in Sheffield... don't miss those hills though, or the rain lol.

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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 28, 2018, 11:46:33 pm
Thanks Gweeds :)
Lol we were luck the rain held off, not that it matters to me (being Welsh its my natural habitat lol), pretty much the same for the hills  *grin*
It’s a good run for us, henece why we took the chance while travelling up that way ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on October 31, 2018, 11:48:36 pm
Little video (not the best i admit) of the new female having a munch, she does work her way through the food :) (dont worry any left over is removed)
Funnily enough we showed the video to Bubba, who instantly spotted the movement and within a few seconds he started to flare and then shimmy following her across the screen, so theres a good sign on one side  *applause* I’ll have to try the other way around  *grin*

https://youtu.be/dIpcFRz9FF8
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Post by: Stephen on November 01, 2018, 08:42:57 am
Good video Ian.
The little one has an appetite. I find it quite funny that she spat out some food but then went back to it.  *grin*
Is that brine shrimp your feeding or something else?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 01, 2018, 09:08:50 am
Thanks Stephen :)
I have noticed she does that, and you probably cant see it so much on the video but the bits get smaller each time she eats it and spits it back out, sometimes she manages to pass it through her gils instead.
And yes its brineshrimp and daphnia/moina, that was literally a pinch with my tweezers  *grin* She still doesn’t completely trust me with the tweezers yet, although she does recognise that they have food, Bubba  has been getting fed the same way except he will take it from the tweezers/my fingers. Stops the platies getting it all!  *grin*
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Post by: Stephen on November 01, 2018, 09:29:46 am
She still doesn’t completely trust me with the tweezers yet
I wouldn't trust you with a pair of tweezers either Iain  roflmao  (only joking mate)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 01, 2018, 10:37:11 am
 roflmao
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 01, 2018, 09:52:56 pm
So water change day for the 180l and the new female (did the 100l the other day, more on that in a min).
We decided to move the root bit of wood out of the 180l, after a slight incident the other night. The platies and Bubba were in the corner (bottom right) where the root was and something spooked the platies and they all darted past Bubba and knocked him against the wood. To which he just lay on the ground not moving, to our panic. Fortunately he came round a couple of seconds later, but the girls are a heavy handed bunch sometimes! They’re lucky it wasn’t Jayne or I imagine it would be war!
Talking of war i’ve got rid of all the java moss on the cave and round the tank, it is growing like wildfire, wrapping round the plants, its a nightmare to keep clean and a nightmare to clean around. So after restarting the syphon about 6/7 times because it blocked up, i removed as much of it as i could find. It does this every time and my patience with it is shot  *curse* *grin*
Anyway the root has been put into the new females tank, along with a new decoration  *grin*;) she dealt well with the water change, was very curious about the water going back in and seemed to enjoy the little rearrangement :)
Now, back to the 100l, we’re one male down, well sort of. Our little crooked spined male has developed dropsy or he is at least pineconed. I have no idea how this has happened as i know i can be a bit off (by a day or two) with the changes but i wouldnt think it would have that much of an effect. So he is in the small QT with the small tetra filter and some esha, although i’m not holding up much hope as i’ve never managed to cure any fish that has ended up with dropsy Sad and his brother/friend seems a bit lost without him :/
Anyway a couple of updated pictures, enjoy :)
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Post by: Suelo on November 01, 2018, 10:30:13 pm
Some lovely pics Iain, but sorry to hear that your little make isn't doing so well. Hope Bubba is Ok after being bulldozed by the platies.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 01, 2018, 10:54:28 pm
Thanks Suelo :)
I will keep trying with the male, see if i can get him to pull through.
Bubba is ok, think he just got a bit dazed but it was still worrying. Hes back to his usual self...bloody big girls (i mean the platies btw  *grin*) freaking out over nothing!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 02, 2018, 04:59:49 pm
Lost the little male this afternoon :(
He was swimming about this morning, although more laboured than usual and i was thinking i might have to get the clove oil out as he wasn’t looking too clever.
We’ve had him 2-2.5years maybe a bit longer, not bad for a little fish we didnt think would grow or last because of his crooked spine, so a little silver lining.
Its his mate i feel sorry for, he seems a bit lost without him :(
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Post by: Stephen on November 02, 2018, 08:50:41 pm
Sorry for your loss Iain  :(
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Post by: Suelo on November 02, 2018, 11:49:20 pm
Sorry to hear that you lost him Iain :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 03, 2018, 08:33:22 am
Thanks both.
I kind of expected it, I still haven’t managed to cure pineconing/dropsy yet. Trouble is once they balloon its only a matter of days (I’ve found).
I’m more concerned as its generally a sign of water quality issues. But nothing is flagging up and everyone else seems to be ok.
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Post by: Suelo on November 03, 2018, 01:18:58 pm
It is a worry when any of them show symptoms of anything, but it might be that it was just his time, & the pineconing was just showing that he was beginning to shut down. Like you, I hate seeing any signs of unwellness, but it sounds as though he did quite well all things considered, and I'm sure he will have had a good life. Always worth keeping an eye though.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 03, 2018, 04:46:02 pm
Thanks Suelo, that is pretty mich how my brain is going right now, as you say could be it was just his time, just a shame he went like that.
We do try to do as much as we can for them :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 07, 2018, 10:18:05 pm
Well, where do i begin....
I am absolutely raging atm...i got a panicked phonecall and barage of texts from my OH just towards the end of my shift, the news being Bubba looks like he’s had a beating, his right pectoral/side fin is ragged and he has a small hole in his anal fin. He has been resting quite a bit lately (questioning age here), nothing to worrying as he always comes up when we go near the tank and he quite often still cruises around the entire tank with no issue.
Either way not sure what happened but again im looking at the big  :censored2: :censored2: (The platies). My OH suggested SJP but i said i imagine the injuries would be a lot worse.
Anyway it meant me legging it to [email protected] for a filter (as our u2 still isnt working, not sure why) coming home and helping my OH finish setting up the 54l for Bubba (she had already filled it with tank water from the 180l and got the heater in ready), getting the new filter ready, adding media from the 180l and what i had left of my bottle of TSS, adding a few random java ferns, then once it was running for a bit a drop of melafix. Bubba seems to be ok at the minute, he’s still resting a bit but he has been swimming around the 54l exploring.
I really am so annoyed right now even though i only suspect the platies, i have had thoughts about dropping Jayne in with them....(I wouldn’t but i am fuming and i have mad ideas!) I’m going to go find something to calm me down.....
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Post by: Stephen on November 07, 2018, 11:59:00 pm
I hope everything works out fine for Bubba.
Fingers crossed mate.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 08, 2018, 12:16:53 am
Thanks Stephen, i hope so to my OH absolutely loves him and shes pretty upset about it.
Since he’s been in the 54l I’ve had a better look at him, there aren’t any bodily injuries i can see, just his dorsal and anal have a split, his left (not right) side/pectoral is torn on the edge and the edge of his tail looks a bit ragged. He still seems to get around ok although, his tail is still a bit clamped up, which i suspect is just from the shock.
Just really wish i knew what really happened
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Post by: Stephen on November 08, 2018, 12:35:08 am
You're doing the right thing by quarantine Bubba away from the other fish.
The melafix will help with any abrasions and the fin damage.
All the best mate ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 08, 2018, 09:52:45 pm
Thanks Stephen
He was ok this morning, and a bit perkier this evening when we got home. Hes a bit more responsive, i think it will be better once the new bulb for that tank gets here. I’ll be able to keep a better eye on him.
We’ll see how he fancies some frozen food this evening :)
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Post by: Stephen on November 08, 2018, 10:54:00 pm
Thanks Stephen
He was ok this morning, and a bit perkier this evening when we got home. Hes a bit more responsive, i think it will be better once the new bulb for that tank gets here. I’ll be able to keep a better eye on him.
We’ll see how he fancies some frozen food this evening :)
Good news  thumbsup2
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Post by: Suelo on November 09, 2018, 01:04:24 pm
I'm sorry to hear about Bubba's problems. Hopefully he will continue to feel better.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 10, 2018, 04:33:16 pm
Well the positive didnt last long, we lost Bubba overnight last night :( *bye3*
Its a shame, he was eating last night (not much but still eating some and having good a go at it) and he did spend some time chasing my OH’s finger along the surface. But he has been resting a lot the past couple of days and his eyes have been really dark. Were suspecting age (we’re juding this on Bubba’s size and Jaynes size as he grew and the fact we’ve had Bubba 20months) and injury from the past week has been the cause more than anything.
Sad times, we still feel happy we had him as he has been one hell of a character (“talking” back to us and coming up to see my OH even when she waved at him from the other side of the room), an amazing dad caring for the fry while mum was off chasing everyone, he completely captivated my OH and we’ve never had even the slightest issue with him, he has been the perfect tankmate and will be sorely missed :( *bye3* *bye3*
RIP Bubba-licious   *bye3* *bye3*
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Post by: Stephen on November 10, 2018, 05:17:03 pm
Well the positive didnt last long, we lost Bubba overnight last night :(

RIP Bubba-licious   *bye3* *bye3*
I am so sorry to hear this Iain.  :(

 *rip* Bubba

My best wishes to you and your OH.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 10, 2018, 10:26:20 pm
Thanks Stephen :)
My OH has taken it pretty well, especially when working that he might be between 3-3.5years old, we think he was around 12-18months when we got him, judging on Jayne [Bubba’s son] not growing any more after 18months and Bubba never grew while we had him (or at least not a noticeable amount)
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Post by: Suelo on November 10, 2018, 10:42:13 pm
So sorry to hear about Bubba Iain.  :(

He was such a character, and so handsome too.
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Post by: Misty on November 11, 2018, 09:11:07 pm
Sorry to hear about Bubba... That's very upsetting...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 11, 2018, 11:41:18 pm
Thanks both
He really was a character. We do have some legacy in Jayne, although Jayne doesnt have Bubba’s calm demeanour  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 15, 2018, 01:34:40 pm
So mission for the other day was catch Jayne and move him into the 180l, to give him more room and to give Jesse and the platy boys a bit of a rest.
He was an absolute nightmare to catch! He’s strong, fast and clever!
The result was i had to take all the wood pieces out of the 100l and he was still a complete PITA to catch!
Anyway he spent an hour or so sulking by the cave by the filter, but once the lights came on he was out and about marking his area and pestering the female platies that came too close. Funnily enough he seems to have chosen the left hand side although he has laid claim to both caves on either side, the left side is where he hangs around more currently. A sweet thing about it is its the same area he was born in so he’s gone home! :)
So i thought i would catch a couple of videos of the tanks, unfortunately the boys in the 100l went into hiding when i got near with the camera, so i took a pic of the result after moving Jayne (you can see the little orange platy by the arch wood on the left).
Also the music for the 180l is a song called “where im from” which i though was quite apt :) it also gives you an idea how big Jayne is when you see him in shot with Akoya and Flo (the two biggest female platies), he definitely looks bigger in the 180l.
Anyway hope you enjoy :)

180l
https://youtu.be/ujMJckeQvnM

New female
https://youtu.be/r7AwuaeitC4

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Post by: Stephen on November 16, 2018, 10:57:37 pm
Good vids and pics Ian :)
What is that lovely floating plants with the roots dangling? I must get some ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 17, 2018, 12:02:35 am
Thanks Stephen :)
The floating plant is Water lettuce :)
It grows wild in the 180l and the new females tank (it did the same when we had the fry in there). I’ll post you some if you want, i chuck quite a bit out when i do water changes otherwise there would be no surface clearing and no light lol  *grin*
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Post by: Feliss on November 17, 2018, 10:44:34 am
Nice tank videos :D
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Post by: Stephen on November 17, 2018, 11:37:01 am
Thanks Stephen :)
The floating plant is Water lettuce :)
It grows wild in the 180l and the new females tank (it did the same when we had the fry in there). I’ll post you some if you want, i chuck quite a bit out when i do water changes otherwise there would be no surface clearing and no light lol  *grin*
Thanks Iain, I would love to try some, bearing in mind I have a 600L aquarium ;)
I'll send a PM.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 17, 2018, 11:45:45 am
Thanks Feliss :)
And dont worry Stephen i started with a couple of handfuls from Newbiefishkeeper, that got put in the tanks, it didnt take long to cover the surfaces on each tank, high light and low flow seem to work well for it :)
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Post by: Misty on November 18, 2018, 04:15:17 pm
Lovely vids. Love the plants in your 180l (and the stars of the show - the fish, of course ;) )
And your new female fish is adorable. That's a popular tune for your videos btw  ;) (I remember it coz I had to Shazam it  thumbsup2 )
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 18, 2018, 09:20:56 pm
Thanks Misty :)
Lol I assume you mean the “where im from” music, i have a couple of favourites i use regularly but i thik this is the first time i’ve used it :)
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Post by: Misty on November 18, 2018, 10:16:58 pm
I was referring to a Silent Partner song you used for your new apisto vid. I’m pretty sure it was one of your vids I’ve heard it from before...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 18, 2018, 11:16:23 pm
Yep thats one of my favourites i found when i really went through most of the music  *grin* i think i used it on one of the videos from the same tank when we fry in there, cant remember if it was the apisto or platy fry though lol  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 25, 2018, 11:33:46 pm
Nom nom....  *grin*

https://youtu.be/bFiTDIksKIo
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Post by: Suelo on November 26, 2018, 10:27:13 am
Nom...nom...nom...indeed!  *applause*
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Post by: Misty on November 26, 2018, 08:53:09 pm
What a happy fish!!! And a skillful gymnast - I love the "head-stand" at the end ;-)
I won't show this video to my pleco coz he gets way smaller pieces of cucumber!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 26, 2018, 09:50:34 pm
Lol its only about once a week and i’m not exactly consistent with how big the  bits are.
Shes an absolute nut when theres fresh veg about  *grin*
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Post by: Misty on November 26, 2018, 10:19:36 pm
Lol mine goes nuts too! I think our plecos should have an acrobatic cucumber dance-off :-P
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 26, 2018, 10:40:06 pm
That could be interesting! I’ve seen SJP pull of some mad manoeuvres!
So standard dance off rules? One performs then the other copies and adds, and repeat until we have a winner? ;) *grin*
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Post by: Misty on November 26, 2018, 10:57:09 pm
Lol a brilliant idea! Now explain that to a fish ;-)
Right... cucumbers bulk order and start practising...  thumbsup2
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 26, 2018, 11:22:16 pm
Lol i can tell SJP but i dont think she will understand or stay around for an explanation...all she knows is “green....food.....mine!” and chaos ensues ;)
So if we call that one number one your up next ;) or shall we start fresh?  *grin*
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Post by: Misty on November 27, 2018, 09:39:31 pm
Hm... let me consult my Pleco, so maybe if he feels a bit more involved he'll get more motivated to show off some tricks
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 29, 2018, 11:00:19 pm
Just a quick video of nearly everyone in the 180l this evening just before feeding time, might explain Jayne’s mental bursts of energy.
Also we think we have worked out how to get Jayne’s attention, Bubba used to respond to waving (even from across the room!) and puffing your cheeks at him, the new female just seems happy if your in her view. Jayne seems to turn and respond if you stick your tongue out at him, which seems to cause him to dart about almost challenging you :D
Anyway enough babbling about my daft actions with our fish, here’s the video. Enjoy :)

https://youtu.be/dCbtYC5Okdo
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Post by: Stephen on November 30, 2018, 12:27:00 am
Love the video Iain  thumbsup2
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 30, 2018, 12:36:32 pm
Thanks Stephen :)

My OH thinks the plants are dwindling a little, and she was asking about the ferts yesterday evening (which i havent dosed in months!), so i might add some to the 180l, as the 100l seems to be growing and holding up quite well. We shall see :)
Anyway i got a couple of pics and video of our little female. The pics are in the order i took them, the second is just after she stretched her mouth at me (just missed the full open stetch) but you can see her gils are still flared and her top lip is still stretched out (not the best pic i know it was more reflex than anything else  lol). I was quite pleased with myself for number 1 until i got number 3  *grin*
Shes been with us in qt 5 weeks tomorrow, and she seems like a very happy lil miss :)

https://youtu.be/JsyQKNGQvZw
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Post by: Misty on December 01, 2018, 09:46:44 pm
Dancing fish in your 180ltr tank :)
And your new female is really cute, she loves to explore. Does she have a name yet?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 01, 2018, 10:40:42 pm
Thanks Misty :)
Yeah she is pretty brave and really cute, probably braver as she knows shes alone in there :)
We haven’t named her yet, waiting until the QT period is over before we name her, although we have ideas we have nothing definitive yet ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 03, 2018, 07:21:47 pm
Ok so water changes on the 100l and 65l QT today. Didnt take too long, i swear the 65l takes longer because the syphon isn’t as strong as in the 100l (because the tank is on a work top on the floor). Still found the water lettuce has some flowers on it again :) and our little miss didnt seem at all fazed by me doing a water change, it even looked as if she was chasing my hand and the syphon! Although she wouldn’t let my hand get too close she didnt seem to mind if i followed her about 3-4 inches away :)
Anyway here’s some pics of the 65l and the water lettuce and a couple a minutes of the 100l for you to waste your time with :D

https://youtu.be/aGsHqipW1GQ

PS todays soundtrack if your interested consisted of: the qemists, pendulum, five finger death punch, Mötley Crüe, queen, lordi, prodigy and soggy bottom boys (;)) from what I remember :)
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Post by: Feliss on December 03, 2018, 07:50:35 pm
Oh she is just so sweeet!! Loving the water lettuce, nice range of sizes making it look so natural.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 03, 2018, 08:32:02 pm
Thanks Feliss :) (nice to see you!)
The water lettuce grows well in that tank (always seems to flower) and always covers the surface in the 180l.
The new female is a real sweetheart, that’s probably why were nervous about introducing Jayne  *blink* although we do hope she will knock him down a notch or two  *grin*
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Post by: _pjn312_ on December 03, 2018, 09:22:41 pm
Lovely! You do have very nice water lettuce - Any flowers?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 03, 2018, 10:19:15 pm
Lovely! You do have very nice water lettuce - Any flowers?

Pics 2 & 4 :) (the white buds in the middle)
If you look closely theres 2 flowers on the piece in pic 4 ;)
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Post by: Feliss on December 07, 2018, 09:31:38 pm
So satisfying when plants flower as usually it means you've giving them everything they need to be happy :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on December 07, 2018, 11:14:07 pm
Nothing in this case just a lot of light  roflmao
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Post by: Feliss on December 09, 2018, 05:21:57 pm
ah don't undersell yourself there, not everyone that has them has such a wonderful display!
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Post by: Misty on December 11, 2018, 07:54:20 pm
Nothing in this case just a lot of light  roflmao

Feliss is right, don't underestimate it ;) Apparently, flowers are the tastiest part of the plant. Some attempted to flower in my tank... didn't last very long...

And how do you keep such a lovely water lettuce? Even guppies devour floating plants I buy :-S
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 01, 2019, 09:01:07 pm
Nothing in this case just a lot of light  roflmao

Feliss is right, don't underestimate it ;) Apparently, flowers are the tastiest part of the plant. Some attempted to flower in my tank... didn't last very long...

And how do you keep such a lovely water lettuce? Even guppies devour floating plants I buy :-S

I dont have guppies ;) roflmao
You can try some of the water lettuce if you want Misty. I’m sending some out this week so i can send you some if you want, just pm me and let me know (also let me know how big the tank is ;) )

Anyway its been a little while since i updated this  *rolleyes*
Lets see where to begin;
Not a great start to the year as we lost Flo (Dolphie’s legacy) over the weekend while we were away at my parents, although she was hiding away and looking a little down Saturday before we went. Still just over 3.5years old, her and Akoya are the oldest platies besides the dwarf males, so were putting it mostly down to age as she wasn’t underweight or had any other sign of illness.
RIP Flo (her mum Pearl [back left] and sister Akoya [back right])
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Our little female (still unamed) is well out of her quarantine period although we haven’t introduced Jayne yet, but watch this space....
Otherwise the tanks have been ticking along nicely, although the boys in the 100l are still camera shy (as you can see!). SJP is still demolishing her cucumber, although she did do it to the point it floated, and when i went to take it out later (the platies were having a go so i thought i’d leave them to it for a bit) there was literally nothing left! I have searched the entirety of the tank and not found a scrap of it...so that was a starve day lol
Anyway here’s a few pics I managed to catch.
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Post by: VC on January 01, 2019, 10:07:51 pm
Lovely tank! And those fish are very pretty.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 02, 2019, 12:23:51 am
Thanks VC, there’s  3 separate tanks ;)
The 180l vision, the 100l fluval (the empty looking one lol), and the gold female is in a quarantine/65l tank :)
If i’d thought about it and took my time i would have labelled them all up properly  *rolleyes* *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 02, 2019, 12:49:55 am
Also in another note tonight:

https://youtu.be/qtiWnUZx3KA

Be warned its a bit of a long one, but worth watching for the behaviour, all i’m saying  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 03, 2019, 01:56:28 pm
Ah well that little period is over  :dry:
After 2 nearly 3 days Jayne seems to be chasing her about a bit (and she seems to be hising from him) now instead of just flirting. He was still trying this morning but after trying nigh on constantly for a couple of days i think he’s a bit frustrated. So i’ve dropped him back into the 180l.
No injuries either way, but i’d rather switch him back before either gets injured. Although i think Jayne could eat her in one go :/
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Post by: Misty on January 03, 2019, 02:43:56 pm
Nice pictures GL
And sorry to hear about Flo... :-(

Ah... all this chasing... that's always a worry I know. I've experienced that too - when new fish being bullied for days; eventually they managed to sort themselves out. But every fish is different. and certainly, you wouldn't want to put that extra stress on the new fish
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 03, 2019, 03:24:39 pm
Thanks Misty :)
Putting Jayne with the new female was to see how they get on and if they would possibly breed, not this time. But we can always try again, it took Bubba and mum 2months before they bred, so we will see how things go when we try again :)
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Post by: Misty on January 03, 2019, 05:07:30 pm
It is true that things change, even in the fishes world. We can only hope...

In fact, there was a girl in high school and we hated each other from day one. God knows what type of miracle has happened (before we got a chance to kill each other), but we’ve become best friends, and remained close ever since! So yes, there is hope even in the most hopeless cases...
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 15, 2019, 05:35:51 pm
Bit of an update, after putting Jayne back in the 180l, a few days later found one of the blue platy doppelgängers pointing nose down on the gravel with some chunks out of her fins and tail and Jayne having a bit of a go but being careful as she was still moving about if he went for her and the other doppelgänger with a weird white lump just near the base of her tail.
Sooo plan into action i netted the nose down one and put her in a hatchery to get her out of Jayne’s way. I then decided i would do a course of interpet #9 to see if it would help the other one and hopefully prevent any infection.
Anyway after a few hours in the hatchery the doppelgänger had really perked up swimming normally and behaving like there was nothing wrong with her, so i left her for a little while longer be relasing her. Over the next couple of days her fins and tail have started healing altough i think it will take a little while to completely heal, and the spot on the other doppleganger disappeared completely and since there have been no signs of any issues at all.
Today I decided while doing the change on the 100l i would swap the pebbles over as they are quite algae covered, so i stuck them in the 180l for SJP to clean  *grin*
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Which after an hour....
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i also went a bit mad while doing the change, see if you can spot the difference...(theres also a difference in cameras my iphone 6s and my OH’s iphone 8)
100l 1st January:
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100l after my madness...:
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ROOTS! BLOODY ROOTS!...no Sepultura fans? Er... *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 15, 2019, 05:36:33 pm
And Jesse just chilling :)
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Post by: Misty on January 18, 2019, 07:59:49 pm
Ah naughty Jayne. Glad things are settling in now.
and well done to SJP - that was some awesome cleaning job ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 18, 2019, 08:19:27 pm
Thanks Misty :)
Yeah he is a bit naughty, but credit where credit is due he knows to take a chance when it (ie fish would instantly turn on a weak fish if it’s potentially a meal).
SJP is good for her cleaning, trouble is she eats it faster than it grows, she’d cleaned them in about 6hours, it takes months to grow at best lol
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 20, 2019, 12:31:37 am
A couple of photos from where i sent out a load of water lettuce (should’ve opened the back flap!). Theres still a fair bit although its mostly small leaves, the back is clear but it has already managed to form an island across the tank  *blink* you can see a couple of clear patches (it’ll soon fill in :D)
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Post by: Stephen on January 20, 2019, 12:35:53 am
Jesse is a beautiful colour  *grin*

The water lettuce looks good.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 20, 2019, 10:26:04 am
Thanks Stephen :)
The water lettuce wont take long to grow back, took quite a bit out for a couple of people, and yet i thought i took out more  *grin*
Jesse really picked up Monica’s (his mum) colour and her moody looking face  *grin* he’s quite calm with the two small platy boys, didnt get on so well with his brothers ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 20, 2019, 08:21:26 pm
SJP having a munch, had to apply a filter to the video to lighten it a bit. She enjoys being sneaky and coming out when the lights are off, but i dont think she realises she bright yellow  *grin*

https://youtu.be/IOZ4D9WLMNI
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Post by: Si4geckos on January 21, 2019, 11:22:17 am
Wow she's been eating well. I do enjoy a nice chunky fish :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 21, 2019, 07:33:35 pm
Thanks Si, she is a bit of a lump compared to when i first got her  *grin*
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Post by: Misty on January 22, 2019, 08:46:50 pm
"Yum yum!" Happy life! - She looks well entertained!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on January 22, 2019, 09:10:26 pm
I think so Misty :)
She destroyed that bit, the one edge was eaten through to the outside skin  *blink* funny thing is I probably wont see her (depends if she comes out or i look into her hole) for a couple of days now lol
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Post by: Misty on January 22, 2019, 10:59:40 pm
Well, the job is done; so I totally get why she doesn’t see any point in coming out ;) until the next tasty task of course
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 12, 2019, 11:14:02 pm
So today i decided to tidy up and water change the 180l, i was hoping it wasnt going to take too long. Took nearly  2.5 hours!  *blink*
I took the java ferns that had grown towards the front and the rhizome parts with no leaves off the wood clipped them and stuffed them all back into any crevices i could wedge them into  *grin* also discovered the java fern Kev sent me is actually 2/3 plants, it became apparent when i was trying to find the rhizome to attach it to the wood and realised that it was 2 bits just tangled in the roots. So i have wedged them in on the side where the plant initially settled and i’ve wedged the big bit on the left of the wood. I also moved our echinodorus in the hope it gets a bit more room and light and grows (i may have to start dosing the ferts again).
In fish news Jayne has managed to split his tail, not sure if he got in SJP’s way or what, either way its a big split but nothing serious, he still takes a good picture  *grin*
The girls all seem to be out and about a lot lately, although the males seem to be hiding away a bit, Jesse and the little orange male seem to be out and about from time to time, but the little blue one seems to be staying hidden unless food is about, and then it doesnt see to be for long after. Either way keeping an eye on him. Also SJP didnt want to come out for pics (as you can see ;))
Anyway here’s some pics of the 180l, i’ll get pics of the 100l (and hopefully the fish!) and Merida tomorrow when i do their changes.
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Post by: VC on February 13, 2019, 06:03:56 pm
Looks great, love how green it all is!
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Post by: Stephen on February 13, 2019, 06:17:33 pm
Another great set of images Iain  thumbsup2
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 13, 2019, 06:32:59 pm
Thanks guys :)

Looks great, love how green it all is!

It gets greener as it goes  *grin* the water lettuce tends to cover over the top so the light diffuses through the leaves (just) it can get a bit dark if i’m not careful   *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 17, 2019, 12:39:31 am
Just a couple of pics of the 100l (and the fish!). Finally caught all three boys out and about :)
Also got a video of Merida (our gold female apisto) at feeding time, she wouldn’t pose for photos, she got a bit excited and wouldn’t pose long enough for the camera to focus  *grin*

https://youtu.be/PS7aL2-o6SU
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Post by: _pjn312_ on February 17, 2019, 06:45:18 pm
Really nice as always Iain :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 18, 2019, 12:04:16 am
Thanks PJN :)
Today has been pretty eventful, sort of...
All weekend we have been trying to catch Jayne to put him in with Merida again to see if the sparks fly this time. So after a few hours (around 3) last night and around 6.5 hours today (yeah 6.5 hours of arsing about with the “trap”) he finally went in there and we managed to catch him (“little”  :censored2: :censored2: :censored2: :censored2:!!!). He has really tried my patience today!
So he is now in with Merida, there has been some flirting from both parties. Including Merida trying to tail slap him across the face (when he doesnt nearly blow her halfway across the tank with his display!). She has grown a bit but he is still a giant compared to her  *blink*
So we will now see how they go this time, the tank is slightly different as i’ve added all the caves and a moss ball from the 180l, which Jayne has gone into and Merida has followed. So promising signs initially :)
Watch this space!
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Post by: Misty on February 19, 2019, 10:47:51 am
Nice!

So he is now in with Merida, there has been some flirting from both parties. Including Merida trying to tail slap him across the face (when he doesnt nearly blow her halfway across the tank with his display!).

your fish have a very unique definition of flirting, I must say ;-)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 19, 2019, 11:10:21 am
Yeah it is pretty unique, but its what Apistos do  *grin* its tail slapping, shimmying and showing off, the females will sometimes nip the males sides. None of the signals are particularly subtle or romantic  roflmao
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 19, 2019, 09:52:01 pm
So this evenings scouting mission on the happy couple revealed them both in one cave  *grin*
And when Jayne moved something small and red fell to the ground. So being the smart bunny i can be on occasions i turned my torch on and shone it at the bottom of the tank, being mostly clear it reflected up into the cave to show what i can only guess are eggs attached to the top of the cave!!   *grin* *applause* *yahoo*
Here’s hoping!!  *grin*
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Post by: _pjn312_ on February 20, 2019, 07:33:57 am
Exciting!
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Post by: Misty on February 21, 2019, 06:23:34 pm
Ooh, the tail slapping worked!
Though if they behave like that in the open, I don't wanna imagine what they are like in the cave ;)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 21, 2019, 06:39:56 pm
 roflmao
Yeah just temporary, they ate the first lot of eggs  *rolleyes* typical of first time parents, although they are still flirting at one another i’m still keeping an eye on them. They might have another go yet  *grin*
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Post by: Stephen on February 21, 2019, 07:24:49 pm
So this evenings scouting mission on the happy couple revealed them both in one cave  *grin*
And when Jayne moved something small and red fell to the ground. So being the smart bunny i can be on occasions i turned my torch on and shone it at the bottom of the tank, being mostly clear it reflected up into the cave to show what i can only guess are eggs attached to the top of the cave!!   *grin* *applause* *yahoo*
Here’s hoping!!  *grin*
Yeah just temporary, they ate the first lot of eggs  *rolleyes* typical of first time parents, although they are still flirting at one another i’m still keeping an eye on them. They might have another go yet  *grin*
Better luck second tome around. ;)
I must try that tail slapping and shimmying with my mrs  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 21, 2019, 09:09:43 pm
 roflmao If you have a tail Stephen you definitely have Welsh genetics somewhere along the line  roflmao
Heres a vid of the happy couple, Jayne is still a bit too heavy handed with Merida but she doesnt seem to mind. Its a case of who slaps first, Merida has to beat Jayne to it or she gets blown across the tank!

https://youtu.be/NVaK8PDqesM
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 26, 2019, 09:23:26 pm
Well the honey moon didnt last too long. I had to chuck the Jayne back in the 180l as he was being rather rough with Merida  :mad:
Anyway heres a quick game:

SPOT THE DIFFERENCE  *grin*

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Post by: Stephen on February 26, 2019, 09:39:47 pm
Well the honey moon didnt last too long. I had to chuck the Jayne back in the 180l as he was being rather rough with Merida  :mad:
Anyway heres a quick game:

SPOT THE DIFFERENCE  *grin*
Great video Iain  *grin*

Spot the difference?
Have you added some wood and some new plants?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on February 26, 2019, 10:57:27 pm
Great video Iain  *grin*

Thanks Stephen :) i try lol

Spot the difference?
Have you added some wood and some new plants?

Yep although none of it is new  *grin* its what i could fit in from the 65l, where Merida was she’s  now in the 100l, there’s a bit of wood, several crypts, a small java fern or two, some water lettuce (cunningly hiding the filter!  *grin*) and a cocnut cave (which you can’t see, its behind the arch on the right).
Going to try and squeeze the rest in the 180l and that will be us down to 2 tanks :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 04, 2019, 03:26:48 pm
Lost the dwarfed blue male platy today/last night :(
He’s gotta be close to 3 years old if not older (hard to remember after all the fry 🙄), but he has been with us for a good while. Impressive considering he was dwarfed like his brother.
Only the orange/red dwarfed male and Jesse (whos a cross not just a straight platy) left now with Merida, whose shown shes happy to challenge and chase Jesse at feeding time keeping him from the cave (not bad considering Jesse is so much bigger than her).
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Post by: _pjn312_ on March 09, 2019, 11:25:47 am
Sorry to hear Iain :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 09, 2019, 11:31:50 am
Thanks PJN, its sad but i’m kind of expecting it now, they’re all getting on a bit.
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Post by: Stephen on March 09, 2019, 01:31:45 pm
Sorry for your loss Iain  :(, at least he had a good life and was well looked after.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 17, 2019, 11:57:02 pm
Ok so update....
Not much has really gone on tank wise (not really a bad thing).
Let me know if you notice anything different  *grin*

https://youtu.be/0blufC4zNk4

https://youtu.be/xb8vqYqvO60
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Post by: Stephen on March 18, 2019, 11:51:05 pm
Put me out of my misery Iain, what's the difference?  *blink*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 19, 2019, 07:15:07 am
The 180l (first few pics)  *grin*
I have put Jayne and Merida (or Merida at least) in there, added what was left of the wood, plants and caves (all mostly in the left hand corner). Where Jayne and Merida have spent some time going about together  *grin*
This might help :) (before and after)

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Post by: Stephen on March 19, 2019, 07:30:30 am
OK that did help  *grin*
Your tanks do look good.  thumbsup3
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Post by: VC on March 19, 2019, 07:29:51 pm
Beautiful lush green tank!
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Post by: Pleco Fan on March 19, 2019, 07:50:55 pm
Looks amazing, what is the substrate? it looks alive!!!  *applause*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 19, 2019, 11:36:33 pm
Thanks guys :)
The substrate in the 180l is mostly a hugo kamishi flourescent green gravel my OH picked  *blink* there is some old black gravel underneath that occasionally throws up the odd stone or two every now and then. But over the time we’ve had it (a couple of years) its not as bright green as it was (thankfully  *grin*)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 31, 2019, 02:02:37 pm
So bit of an update.
Jayne (male apisto) has once again proven himself to be the biggest !*!?#!**?#. After a few days (longer than before) he seemed to be stalking Merida (female gold apisto), they would still have calm moments together but not much flirting going on. So i have moved her back to the 100l where she is happily going about with Jesse and the remaining dwarf platy. On another note about Jayne is he did get some comeuppance (and a possible explanation to the previous split tail) this morning, he tried having a go at SJP (or got really close). I knew it was a bad idea...when he went back under the large bit of wood, SJP turned went under the wood with some speed and then a whip of the tail and next thing Jayne was out at the front, looking a little shocked before going to hide and sulk in a cave  roflmao. I’d be worried but he’s been asking for it for some time and he’s big enough and hard enough to take it and needs a knock down a few notches. (I still can believe he tried the stupid bugger!  roflmao)
Only other concern atm is my half and half female platy, shes very lethargic this morning. No idea why, she does have the remains of a scuff on her forehead but thats healing and she was perfectly normal last night after i did the water changes (they were all quite perky). We’re normally keep a close eye on her as she is the smallest female and does seem to get the brunt of things, but its never more than a quick chase. So she’s currently in the hatchery resting so we can keep a closer eye on her and keep her away from any hassle.
On another note while doing the changes, i had a good clean about, found a lot of dark green algae on my crypts in the 100l, but i think because i have recently started weekly dosing liquid carbon again because i had noticed a bit more algae appearing. On this note i have also made up a load of ferts again so i plan to be dosing them again to see if i can get some plants to settle and regrow, although the java ferns dont seem to need any help, even the one(s) i got off Kev, i seem to have 4 of them now all smallish but growing and i think they have lost a grand total of 2 leaves since i’ve had them! Very happy  *grin*
With regards to the fert mix i am trying a half mix at full dose instead of full mix at half dose. So i’ve only used half the amount of ferts in the mixes and i’ll dose the full 10ml/50l. Hope that makes sense Confused
Anyway here’s a couple of full tank pics for you to enjoy ( hopefully and especially if you’ve just read that lot!  *grin*)
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Post by: Stephen on March 31, 2019, 02:28:22 pm
Iain, you should write a book about the exploits of Jayne & SJP as I was really getting in to it.  :book:

I hope your female half & half platy gets better soon.
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 31, 2019, 05:10:57 pm
Lol He’s normally not that bothered with her, but i swear his attitude is getting worse. Thing is SJP is a LOT bigger than him  *grin*
I’ll keep you posted on anymore spats or instances they have :)
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Post by: Misty on March 31, 2019, 08:00:38 pm
Nice pics. And hope your platy gets better.
* Whats "half and half female" mean? Is it a new gender identity trend that I am not following lol?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 31, 2019, 08:12:54 pm
 roflmao
No it’s because she’s literally half blue half orange  *grin*

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Post by: Misty on March 31, 2019, 10:28:55 pm
Lol I’ve missed that part. Phew nothing to worry about then ;)
She is very pretty btw :-)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 01, 2019, 12:14:40 pm
Lost the half’n’half overnight  *bye3*:(
No visible marking or damage that i could see that could’ve caused anything. If I’ve worked it out right she would be coming up or around 3 years old, Akoya turns 4 this year (i’m pretty sure), so could be age, but i’m not sure.
No one else seems affected in any way and Jayne is still being a  :censored2: :censored2: but that’s normal.
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Post by: Misty on April 01, 2019, 05:26:41 pm
Oh that's sad news... Sorry about your loss :-(
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Post by: James Rawlings on April 01, 2019, 06:08:12 pm
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Its been very interesting to read through your log. I think anyone who says fish are a boring pet needs to give this log a read!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 01, 2019, 07:08:18 pm
Thanks both :)
Its been very interesting to read through your log. I think anyone who says fish are a boring pet needs to give this log a read!

They definitely do keep us entertained with their antics and i’m impressed you kept up with all my babblings, its been quite a journey and there’s more to come yet  *grin*
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Post by: Stephen on April 01, 2019, 07:26:47 pm
Sorry to hear of your loss Iain  :(
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Post by: Misty on April 01, 2019, 08:09:35 pm

 I think anyone who says fish are a boring pet needs to give this log a read!

Anyone who says fish is a boring pet - eh, at least they recognise fish as a pet... I've heard a lot of people saying fish tank is just a decorative piece of furniture! O_o
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Post by: VC on April 04, 2019, 09:39:49 pm
Sorry for your loss.
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Post by: Calmwaters on April 20, 2019, 08:43:06 pm
Sorry for your loss GL
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 21, 2019, 10:44:07 pm
Thanks all :)
No real update. I did the water changes on both tanks today, clipped out the leaves with algae or rubbed it off if it came off  *grin*
But to be fair i’m still getting back into the habits with the ferts etc. So there still seems to be a bit kicking about but i feel like i’m getting there :)
I’ve also taken the condensation tray out of the 100l which has made it quite a bit brighter  *grin*
Anyway here’s some pics for you to enjoy (i hope!)
Pic order: 180l full tank, Jayne, the platy girls, Akoya x3, one doppelgänger (the greener one), other doppelgänger (more identical to Pearl)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 21, 2019, 10:46:04 pm
And the 100l
Pic order: Full tank, Jesse, Jesse and the remaining male dwarfed platy, Merida in her cave, Jesse and Merida, Merida out x2
Hope you enjoy :)
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Post by: Stephen on April 22, 2019, 12:20:22 am
Great pics as always Iain  thumbsup4
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 27, 2019, 01:55:50 pm
Lost one of the doppelgängers yesterday :( the greener one.
Not sure why, she was looking a little bloated the other night so they had a starve day and then fed peas the night before. But i found her when i got home from work :(
Shes another around the 3year mark, really unsure what happened though :/
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Post by: Stephen on April 27, 2019, 03:05:30 pm
Sorry to hear of your loss Iain  :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 30, 2019, 09:03:05 pm
Thanks Stephen
So got the plants put in that KevB kindly sent me, although i’m not sure that some will last. Between SJP apparently unsettling a few and the change and settling in. The sagittaria have gone to ribbons pretty much :/ and the ammania gracilis wont stay down (again i suspect SJP!). I might leave the ammania floating and see if it grows some roots.
The hygrophilias seem to be doing alright atm though :)
Anyway here’s some pics for you, a full tank and Jayne showing off full finage, my OH commented on how he looks like his dad (Bubba) in these pics :)
Enjoy!
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Post by: Stephen on April 30, 2019, 11:17:20 pm
Jayne is one handsome fish  *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 02, 2019, 07:20:29 pm
Really random...

We’ve just noticed we can see Merida’s lateral line, which is not something we have noticed before. Now we’re sat here wondering if like the “normal” coloured females, they would colour up. Now “normal” females go from silvery to bright yellow with all their lines on display (or darker), so we are wondering if this is her showing her mood to breed.
It was only by chance that my OH said anything as she couldn’t get Jayne’s attention and then realised he was facing Merida through the glass between the 180l and 100l, then when we looked closer we could see the line showing.
What do you all think?
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Post by: grommit on May 07, 2019, 05:38:49 pm
Thanks Stephen
So got the plants put in that KevB kindly sent me, although i’m not sure that some will last. Between SJP apparently unsettling a few and the change and settling in. The sagittaria have gone to ribbons pretty much :/ and the ammania gracilis wont stay down (again i suspect SJP!). I might leave the ammania floating and see if it grows some roots.
The hygrophilias seem to be doing alright atm though :)
Anyway here’s some pics for you, a full tank and Jayne showing off full finage, my OH commented on how he looks like his dad (Bubba) in these pics :)
Enjoy!
Never seen jayne type! don't know I find then lovely of fugly roflmao
Just catching up on your log...reading takes time *grin*
Bri
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 07, 2019, 06:50:33 pm
Never seen jayne type! don't know I find then lovely of fugly roflmao
Just catching up on your log...reading takes time *grin*
Bri
I think if Jayne could type his words wouldn’t be particularly kind  roflmao
He’s an apistogramma cactuoide or cockatoo cichlids, they’re a dwarf cichlid (the only ones i can keep in my hard water), and yes he really does have a face only a mother could love  roflmao Merida (and in general the female cacatuoides) have quite happy looking faces, but carry more attitude when in breeding mode or defending fry!
Good luck with the catching up, i’m not even sure i could manage to catch up with it all  roflmao
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Post by: grommit on May 07, 2019, 07:42:48 pm
 roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao *cheers*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on May 12, 2019, 11:45:00 am
Lost the second doppelgänger overnight :(
I have no idea why, did water changes yesterday and everyone was out and about happily. Fed last night no problems to be seen.
Got up this morning to find her in the bottom left corner, nose down :( no marks nothing obvious, slight fraying on the tail, probably from being pushed around the tank in the flow, but nothing to indicate anything otherwise.
I am baffled  *blink*
Only Akoya left now of all the female platys that were born here, then Jesse (the remaining cross) and the little dwarfed male. All the livebearers we have left now, from 4 we originally bought to around the 400 mark of fry we’ve had over the time we’ve had the tanks, its pretty quiet now.
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Post by: Stephen on May 12, 2019, 12:30:19 pm
Sorry for your loss Iain.  :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 02, 2019, 10:12:30 am
Thanks Stephen :)
Ok so again its been a little while since i updated...
Not much has happened in the tanks, still seem to battling a bit of algae in the 100l and SJP uprooting the hygrophilia constantly  *rolleyes*  But our biggest problem lately has been Bailey (our older cat) who spent last weekend at the vet with a bad UTi/blockage. Looks like he’s ok atm *touch wood*, but from now on it regular check ups etc for a while  *blink*
Anyway here’s a few pics for you all to enjoy (hopefully) :)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 02, 2019, 10:15:15 am
Couple more, just Jesse *grin*
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 09, 2019, 11:31:35 pm
Not a huge update.
The little male platy hid away for a couple of days, which had us worried as he didn’t show himself at all  *blink*
Either way he decided to pop up out of no where yesterday afternoon like nothing had happened  *rolleyes*
Anyway in an ongoing battle with the algae in the 100l, I did a large water change today, cleaned off loads of algae, clipped back any leaves too badly affected, and adjusted the position of a couple of java ferns. Syphoned out loads of it after rubbing over bits of the wood and leaves.
Either way its looking much cleaner, and all three were out this evening so i thought i’d try and catch the moment  *grin*
Unfortunately no one in the 180l wanted to play   *blink*
https://youtu.be/grUe9XPZ3Nk
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 21, 2019, 12:24:21 pm
Lost Jesse overnight  *bye3*
The end of Monica’s legacy in our tanks and the last of the brothers (Sly, Arnie and Jesse), just about 3.5years old, which when considering he was a cross platy/swordtail, i dont think is too bad and signs of age have been showing a bit lately. Even so i’m still pretty gutted  :(
A couple of pics of him, even him as a 1 month old fry (on the right first pic) and competing with Jayne for size before Jayne had fully grown (although they are close in size).
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Post by: Stephen on July 12, 2019, 06:45:05 pm
Just read this Iain.
Sorry to hear you lost Jesse.  :(
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 12, 2019, 07:32:05 pm
Thanks Stephen
As i say an end of Monica’s legacy for us :( (i loved Monica, she was a beast and i have a soft spot for swordtails  *grin*).
Think it hit me harder because of both those facts and because the fry log is on her with the pics of him so tiny compared to the half platy/swordtail beast he and his brothers became.
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 14, 2019, 08:17:19 pm
So its been a while since an update.
All the fish are well, although I’m still having a battle with algae in both tanks but i think thats down to my slightly sporadic maintenance over the past few weeks due to work and holiday.
So today i spent about 3 hours today having a bit of a blitz, more so in the 180l as it seems to be hair algae thats doing me in, whereas the 100l is a green algae that seems to stay relatively under control with liquid carbon and regular maintenance (me scraping huge bits off everything i can  *grin*).
So the 180l has had a large water change (somewhere in the region of 80l+) a dose (carefully) of HP on the algae affected leaves (there’s something satisfying watching it fizz change colour and float off dying  *grin*). Either way it’s looking much cleaner and there’s a lot of air bubbles about (from the filter, HP and big change). Everyone seems pretty happy :)
In the 100l, I had already taken some water out earlier in the week to clean up some remaining food from our friends feeding while we were away, they’re good at it and follow my instructions to the letter, just the new pellets are bigger than the previous ones so Merida and the little platy can’t gobble them down like Jayne, Akoya and SJP (yeah she eats them if she can). So did a good clean of the leaves and a bit of a scrub over of the wood to try and lift some of the algae, then another good water change (40l+).
Both tanks then got a full dose of micro nutrients and liquid carbon.
I still haven’t planted the anuibias i got, although i quite enjoy them floating like a tangled rooted island. I’m also pretty sure i’ve only seen one of the assassins lately (our friend was so excited to see them while we were away they sent my OH a pic, she wasn’t too amused...i was though  roflmao). To be fair though she doesnt seem to bothered by them, especially as you dont see them too often (they’re surprisingly good at hiding in plain sight, i think at least  *grin*).
Anyway i think thats enough to try and take in in one go, so sit back relax and enjoy these pictures (hopefully) :)

Picture guide: 1) 180l full tank [10 points for spotting SJP)  2) Akoya hiding in the bubbly java ferns 3-7) Jayne’s mugshots 7) A quick pic my OH took of SJP the other day (all 3 are there if you look closely) 8-10) Other pics my OH caught of SJP
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 14, 2019, 08:20:59 pm
A couple more  *grin*

Picture guide: 11-12) SJP continued 13) 100l full tank shot 14-15) Merida showing off 16) Merida very successfully photobombing the little male platy 17) the little male platy 18) Assassin on the move... 19) to go for a nap... roflmao
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Post by: Ric on July 15, 2019, 10:17:44 am
Proper little jungle in there. I am not a big fan of anubias but I do like your floating tangle of them....now there's an idea :D
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 15, 2019, 11:22:54 am
Thanks Ric :)
I thought the floating tangle looked quite good as well,  its a load i had sent by a forum member (who had a 200l tank) so its a bit of a squeeze in my 100l, but its turned out well :)
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Post by: Stephen on July 15, 2019, 04:23:12 pm
All looking good Iain  thumbsup2
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Post by: Feliss on July 15, 2019, 08:29:17 pm
Merida is a beauty!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 15, 2019, 09:19:53 pm
All looking good Iain  thumbsup2

Thanks Stephen, glad my efforts have had an effect  *grin*

Merida is a beauty!

Thanks Feliss, she is my little sweetheart as she always comes up to see me, i spent ages just watching her in QT when we got her so shes loves me and is completely unfazed when I’m in the tank  *grin* We might try her and Jayne together again soon before we up the numbers to a small harem :) (or at least thats the plan)
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 21, 2019, 06:55:05 pm
Whats going on here then....?  *blink* *grin*

https://youtu.be/D7ekFGYIjiE
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Ric on July 22, 2019, 07:18:26 pm
Perhaps I'm missing something - fish exploring their bare tank?
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 22, 2019, 07:55:16 pm
You might have to read back a bit  *grin*
But as you may have seen we have Jayne (male) and Merida (female) (our apisto cacatuoides), which we have been trying to breed, but Jayne can be a bit of a douche after a couple of days. So the plan was to get some females, so after running round most of the day yesterday ringing and running around trying to find some females. Eventually found out our usual lfs had them, but they didn’t answer when we rang.
Got them home to find out one of them is male (the one at the front at the start of the video), returned him today to end up with another male  *rolleyes**knock* they’re quite young so its hard to tell.
Either way its 3 new apistos in our QT :) although it will be 2 tomorrow as i have to take the male back  *rolleyes*
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Ric on July 23, 2019, 10:02:34 am
Thanks for bringing me up to speed :D

..and good luck with your new fish!
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Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 23, 2019, 10:46:52 am
No problem and thank you :)
Turns out our second suspect male might actually be a girl (my OH being impatient!). As the new one spent some time looking a bit plain and coloured down, my OH was convinced male. But a few hours later (or a bit of time to settle in) we found all 3 of them looking very yellow. So it does look like we have 3 new females now :)
Title: Re: GL's multiple tank log and the story so far...
Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 23, 2019, 04:27:21 pm
In other news....
This happened  *blink*

https://youtu.be/3f8bLJgG6-M
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Post by: Feliss on August 08, 2019, 09:05:04 pm
 *applause*