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Title: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 26, 2017, 02:46:04 pm
Hi all!  *2116*

I have finally embarked on the logging trip I intended on pursuing 8 months ago when the fish tank that stood vacant and obtrusive for 3 years before it saw any action finally had some money spent on it :)

The tank is a glass tank with a slightly decorative metal stand. The measurements are:

48" long x 16" tall x 12" deep (deep as in from front glass to back glass)
Max Tank Volume: 151 litres
Actual Water volume: Closer to 140-142 litres

More tank specifics are listed below:
- Substrate: Dorset Pea gravel (20kg)
- Resin Decor: Buddha cave, rock ornament, log cave
- Natural Decor: 6 x piece of Mopani wood (or that's what I was told it was - pictures don't match up with Google searches of 'Mopani Wood')
- Plant life: 8 x Plants (unsure of the species - 3/4 of them are melting relentlessly, I have trimmed the disintegrating leaves twice - might end up throwing those ones away)
Filtration: APS Internal 700lph + UV Sterilistation & small, air-powered double sponge filter at other end of tank
Heating: (can't remember if it actually is 300w but I think it is - it does the job)
Lighting: 2 x 14" single row, colour-changing-capable, LED strips
Other stuffs: Air stone powered by Hidom twin-outlet air pump (other outlet powers the sponge filter)

Water treatment & other chemicals:
De-chlorinator: Interpet Bioactive Tapsafe Plus
Plant Nutrition & supplements: TNC Complete & TNC Liquid Carbon (2% Glutaraldehyde) (I do have API root tabs but I haven't added these in)

Back onto the story:

I have kept fish before, I had three tanks at one point. Some of the fish I kept were: Oscar Cichlid, Pacu, Black Ghost Knife Fish, Goldfish (in a tropical tank), 'Common' Plecs and many others ...  I didn't know what I was doing then and didn't know what I was doing when I was left to kit out this tank. Let's put it this way, I had a very swift learning experience with this tank and messed up along the way. Nonetheless, I've picked myself up and have made myself knowledgeable-to-a-degree about the fish I am now keeping (the stocking list will be featured below but is also in my signature at the very bottom of each of my comments - you can change yours in the Profile menu of the taskbar) and will be moving various fish on when they get too big and will be relying on my research and the assistance of the fine people that grace this forum to re-stock the tank with beautiful but more importantly COMPATIBLE species :)

Anyway, bare with me, I know these fish aren't compatible, the fish I keep now are: 2 x Gold Spot Plecs (Pterygoplichthys joselimaianus) (sold as Common Plecs), 2 x Albino Rainbow Sharks (Epalzeorhynchos Frenatum), 2 x Bala Sharks (Balantiocheilus melanopterus) and 1 x Silver Angelfish (Pterophyllum scalare)

So, that's my current and low level stocking which is a work in progress. I know that the ARS's don't mix well and they have had quite a few scrapes but since I've put a new log tunnel in the tank they rarely fight anymore so that's settled that one for now. The Plecs, I know, are territorial and were fine for the first couple of months and then for the next couple of months the bigger one chased the little one round the tank a lot but for the last 3-4 months there's been very few moments like that so, that's that. I did not know the Balas got to be as big as they do (upto but rarely reaching 16") and I also did not know that they require company of their own kind and more than two specimens! :( And, the Angel sometimes does get a bit lonely on its own but I'm conscious of advice that suggests not to add more to the tank if you've already got one as it'll become very territorial and potentially kill new tank mates with its aggression.


So, there's my hodge-podge mismatch of a tank. I would've changed over the fish already but the housemate got very pissy with me when I suggested that we needed to get those fish out of there (he doesn't understand that they are animals with requirements and needs - even though I've explained that I messed up quite badly - I've not mentioned that I made the dire mistake of adding 4 African Cichlids to the tank  *blink* they got rehomed though - hence why he's even more pissy with me). I'm in a bit of a sticky situation as he paid for the lot (decor n'all) and as I've just mentioned, I rehomed 4 African Cichlids without his royal approval - I've mentioned that I effed up, several times. Anyway, the tank inhabitants have reached something of a semi-peace as there are only minor scraps and scrapes these days so, that's relieving :)

Right, I've waffled on enough now ... Here's some images :) There's quite a few! haha I took some fresh ones last night (some of them pretty half-decent) but I'll just put up one or two of each:

P.S.: The Plecs have names (Roger - the big one and Plonk - the small one). Oh and the Angelfish is called Gill (after an Angelfish out of Finding Nemo). Yeah and the 4 sharks have names too ... The two Balas are called Jesse & James and the two Albinos are called Tom & Jerry  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 26, 2017, 02:48:45 pm
Here's some more images  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 26, 2017, 02:50:58 pm
Aaand more  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on February 27, 2017, 10:05:53 am
The dracanae (the unknown plant) will rot over time and pollute the tank. They are marsh plants, sold for reptiles and pots in windows ;)
What are the ph and hardness?
I'm trying to think of a way to swap some fish so as your mate doesn't get teed off any more...... ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 27, 2017, 11:51:49 am
Thanks for the heads up about the plant, will keep a close eye on it. It's doing better than any of the other aquatic plants in there haha

And, the ph is 7.8 (from my test) and the hardness is 7dGH (as told by Northumbrian Water - Darlington area) so, slightly hard, alkaline waters :)

I appreciate the assistance with the fish. I've suggested getting lots more Angelfish to swap them out with and that was met with something of an agreeable tone but still had attitude-riddled undertones. The only issue with that is Gill, the current Angel, might attack them because 'he's' the boss of the tank.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on February 27, 2017, 12:33:10 pm
I'll keep thinking of how to swap the Balas...... ;)
You could swap Gill and the Balas for 6 other angels of course........
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 27, 2017, 12:50:05 pm
Would prefer not to swap Gill, quite attached to him. He's got long flowing split fins too which are lovely.
The image attached is from a few months ago and the split fin has grown a little more since :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 27, 2017, 02:25:31 pm
Took some shots from the ends of the tank last night, just to be different! haha
I should also mention that I couldn't see the shot I was taking as there isn't enough room in the alcove to fit me in there too to see haha
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on February 28, 2017, 09:03:36 am
I think I might have a swap for you, how about 5 tinfoil barbs instead of the 2 Balas? They're only about 8"......... :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 28, 2017, 09:57:15 am
Hmm, that could work :) though the tank is still a little small for 5 of them eventually, isn't it?
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on February 28, 2017, 10:17:50 am
It's 4' isn't it?
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 28, 2017, 11:51:46 am
Yeah, 4' long x 12" deep (front to back) x 16" tall
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on March 01, 2017, 10:05:43 am
Should be ok then, as long as that's it. :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 23, 2017, 07:25:24 pm
Hi all! :)

Sorry about not posting in a while,

I've just had a new background delivered for the tank, it adds sssso much more depth and character to the tank. I hate that I took so long (will post some images).
I have re-homed the Bala Sharks, one of the Albino Rainbow Sharks and the Angelfish.
I will be looking at getting two Kribensis and 10 Gold Barbs as a replacement. From what I've looked at online, these choices are pretty decent with what I've got at the moment. I have ordered a Java Fern mother plant from Aquarium Gardens to provide a bit more greenery in the tank for the fish and the aesthetics (will post images when it arrives and is in the tank).

Anyway, here are some images of the new background ... The tank seems so empty without the other fish. You wouldn't think there are two Plecs and an Albino Rainbow Shark in there haha
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on March 24, 2017, 10:17:59 am
Watch gold barbs, they prefer it a bit cooler than the others, you may actually be better off with tigers instead, which would match aggressive tendencies.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 24, 2017, 10:46:12 am
I forgot to mention that I've turned the temperature down to 27 and the temperature is 26 at the furthest end of the tank (that is using a glass thermometer so it could be upto a degree out but the thermostat/heater is set to 27) ... Do you think there could he an issue?
I am heading out at around 11 so there's a chance you won't be able to respond in time so I will do a quick search online and refresh the factual information
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 24, 2017, 07:03:02 pm
So, I didn't get any Gold Barbs due to the LFS Stevie and I visited not having any but if what they say is true, and I feel like they were genuine in their claims, then I have 14 true Pentazona Barbs Puntius pentazona (as opposed to the 'look-alike' and 'false Pentazona'Puntius hexazona) in this tank now! and 2 Kribensis too :)

I bought a ceramic plant pot for the Kribs but they are just in the process of exploring their tank at the moment. The Barbs immediately started shoaling and look incredible! I love them! I've tried to get some good photos, I think the best photos will come when the lights get turned off as the camera I have isn't too good without the flash... Anyway, here are the new additions!!!!  *grin* *grin* *grin* *grin*

I just hope the Krib pair don't wipe out the whole tank when breeding! :(  *blink*

I'm going to create new replies below to add the images to ... Hopefully it works! There seems to be issues recently with uploading images (especially more than one image at a time- I've had to upload an image then modify the post and upload another one and so on).
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 24, 2017, 07:05:37 pm
Here are the new additions being acclimatised :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 24, 2017, 07:10:57 pm
Here are the best of the images I could get of the Kribs! They just don't stay still long enough! haha exploring their brand new surroundings and evicting the Albino Shark from its log tunnel! haha
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 24, 2017, 07:14:34 pm
Pentazona Barbs  *grin*

I love these! They're really something to watch when they're shoaling!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Suelo on March 24, 2017, 08:11:14 pm
Sounds like a very successful shopping trip  *grin*

I really like those pentazona barbs. I bet they look even more stunning in real life!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 24, 2017, 09:39:41 pm
They do!  *grin* I will attempt to get a video of them at some point tomorrow  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on March 25, 2017, 09:27:51 am
Ha ha looking good buddy, they all look like they are settling in well.

Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on March 25, 2017, 01:51:29 pm
Pentazonas are lovely!
Just keep your eye on the kribs. ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 25, 2017, 02:45:14 pm
keep your eye on the kribs. ;)

I will be, thanks! :)

I've got a lovely tangle of wood that I'm currently soaking to go in the big tank, that'll provide a fair few more hiding places, especially when I can attach some Java Fern to it all :)

And I can always look into adding another tangle or other decor pieces :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 25, 2017, 02:49:37 pm
Looking good :) the barbs do look really nice shoaling together and you have a decent number to form a shoal :)


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 25, 2017, 02:53:03 pm
The shoal really well :)
My only change would be to add even more!!! haha  *grin* *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on March 25, 2017, 03:45:03 pm
keep your eye on the kribs. ;)

I will be, thanks! :)

I've got a lovely tangle of wood that I'm currently soaking to go in the big tank, that'll provide a fair few more hiding places, especially when I can attach some Java Fern to it all :)

And I can always look into adding another tangle or other decor pieces :)

Is that the wood your currently soaking for me?


 *13*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 25, 2017, 03:55:24 pm
 roflmao roflmao Oh Stevie! You are funny!  roflmao roflmao ;)

I think it's going to look really, really nice in MY tank!  roflmao
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on March 25, 2017, 04:01:42 pm
roflmao roflmao Oh Stevie! You are funny!  roflmao roflmao ;)

I think it's going to look really, really nice in MY tank!  roflmao

 roflmao

I think ill invest in some when im down next friday.

By the way, the 2.5ft tank woulnt fit in my unit. Well, it would fit nicely if it wasnt for one of the wooden supports being in the way preventng me from getting the bugger in.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 25, 2017, 04:13:07 pm
Ahh bother! A trip back to Aquatic Finatic is needed then?  *grin* *grin* *grin* *grin* *grin* *grin*  roflmao

If I had some more money then I would invest in some more tangles of wood as the piece I got was only around £6 and is very well worth the money if you ask me. It's starting to sink nicely so I'll be getting some images of it tomorrow or the day after in the tank with Java Fern attached to it :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 30, 2017, 10:03:34 pm
Well, only a few days since adding the Kribs but the female has not long laid eggs! ... I mean, I'm happy that they're comfortable enough but I'm very nervous for the rest of the fish now  *blink* I've heard some horror stories about Kribs but I'm just hoping the fact that I've got a 4ft tank and they're nestled in at one end in a corner and there's a fair amount of stuff to provide cover is going to be enough to protect the rest of the fish.

The female is the only one guarding the batch of eggs and she seems nice and calm at the moment, she is relatively gently seeing off the Barbs when they come round to investigate and I think they're going to be the issue with the Kribs but all I can do is sit and wait and hope it all goes smoothly ... I literally don't have the money to set up a breeding tank in the next 24 hours (not even in the next week) :(

Anyway, here's a couple of images of the female guarding the clutch of eggs on the fake rock ornament haha
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on March 30, 2017, 10:08:23 pm
Congrats :)
Hope it goes well for you and hopefully they'll have enough space for everyone to keep out of their way.
It was one of my concerns with our apistos but no eggs yet just a female with an attitude lol


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 30, 2017, 10:34:40 pm
Hopefully someone is able to respond to this message soon ... Would it be advisable to move the Kribs to my currently empty cycled shrimp tank? And how would I go about it? Do I move the ornament (with the eggs on) first and then the Kribs or the other way round and both of the Kribs or just the female?
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on March 31, 2017, 09:43:05 am
Don't move anything, wait and see.
With a 4' tank and broken lines-of-sight you should/could be ok. :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 31, 2017, 11:50:13 am
Thanks Ian! :)

I just hope the rest of the fish will be ok too once/if the eggs hatch. Hope the female is a good first time mother (just not too defensive to the point of being offensive)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 31, 2017, 03:20:18 pm
Well, there's some strange behaviour to report ...

The female appears to be eating the eggs, or not defending them to the point where the Barbs are coming in and pecking them but I've not seen it happen once and there's about 20% of the amount of eggs there was last night :(

The female also doesn't seem aggressive at all when guarding the spot (she's still guarding the remaining eggs) and she keeps 'cleaning' them but I swear I just saw her take some in her mouth and then start doing that fish equivalent of chewing that they do with food...

She's also occasionally, not often but I've seen her do it twice, rubbing both of her sides on the gravel... Could there be a medical issue here? I will try to get a decent shot of her but I honestly can't see anything the matter with her ... My OH says that she still looks as though shes full of eggs too and thinks that there's an egg stuck or something trying to come out... I'll get some images and try and capture what my OH is saying :)

I'll just upload some of the images ...
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 31, 2017, 03:47:05 pm
Sooooo, here's some images of the Kribs and their eggs (or the lack thereof) ...
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 31, 2017, 08:25:25 pm
I have had a little trek into the wilderness of the internet and came across a few examples of situations of fish rubbing their sides on the gravel but there not being any signs of Ich and I was made aware that fish could sometimes exhibit that behaviour when ammonia is too high in the water (anything above 0ppm) so I have done a test on ammonia, nitrite and nitrate and did a high range ph test while I was at it too, results are below :)

Ammonia: 0.25
Nitrite: 0.0
Nitrate: 80
High Range ph: 7.8 (hasn't budged at all, not that I expected it too)

Actions: small water changes over the weekend, starting tonight. Going to do a small change (about 10-15% each day for at least 2 days - tonight, tomorrow a 40-50% and Sunday a 10-15% - in total around 60-70% new water)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on March 31, 2017, 09:59:44 pm
Just done a 25-30 litre w/c and filled it with about 8-9 litres of more water than it had before so now the water sits about 1.5-2cm off the black rim of the glass rather than 2-3 inches and I must say that the tank looks kinda different ... I can't explain it haha

In other news, I think I'm going to have to get saving a few quid each week and get myself an external filter in a couple of months (might be able to borrow some money to speed up the wait - needs must). Those results got me a bit nervous and gave me the nudge I thought I was going to get in a couple of months to get the tank converted to external but hey ho! I'm getting it done a lot sooner haha

Will obviously keep everyone posted :)

Anyone got suggestions for low priced but decent quality externals? (I'm thinking I might just opt for another Jebao Pump Professional 750lph unit that I'll be soon converting the Turtle tank to but will see how that copes with the turtles first)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 01, 2017, 10:12:12 am
The pic looks more like the ovipositor than a stuck egg. She looks like she's eaten quite a lot (the bulge at the front shows that).

Cichlids do usually take several attempts before they get spawning and hatching right.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 01, 2017, 02:15:27 pm
Thanks! :)

What you said about Cichlids taking several attempts would make sense what with her not exactly managing to keep a hold of her eggs! ... There's about 7 or 8 left now (there was about 60 or 70 the day we spotted them - strange thing is, she's defending them quite well from the Barbs. So much so that I've only seen the Barbs within about 2-3 inches of the eggs a couple of times). She's still defending the last few remaining eggs though. Could she be eating them if they're not good eggs?
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 02, 2017, 12:24:32 pm
Maybe, or she just got spooked and panicked.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 03, 2017, 07:13:14 pm
Well, as of yesterday, there were no eggs left and the site abandoned and the Kribs are just swimming around as they were before so that would lead me to the only conclusion: the eggs had been eaten by someone in the tank. Oh well, onwards and upwards, that was their first time I think so we'll have to hold out for the next time :)

In other news: With a big thank you to Stevie, I've been able to upgrade the filtration in this tank from an APS 700lph internal to a Fluval U4!!!  *grin* The flow is impressive, even on the lowest setting! The flow is now reaching the end of the tank, easily and on low setting! I cut up the foam from my APS filter and inserted it into the Fluval which should mean I'll be alright but I will monitor the tank with regular testing and water changes if needed, Stevie also kindly kitted the Fluval out with some new foams (coarse, medium & fine - I replaced some of the coarse foam for the foam out of the APS filter). The fish seem livelier, which is good to see (they're not being blown around the tank though! haha just thought I'd clarify that) :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 04, 2017, 09:37:55 am
So, due to various things over the weekend, I had lapses of concentration and never got all three water changes done ... I'm going to do another one today as I've just done another water change and it needs doing but I've got Jobcentre to deal with first so that's more important (to them).

Results for today are:

Ammonia: 0.25
Nitrite: 0.0
Nitrate: 80

Action: Will do a 25% w/c when I get back in this afternoon and will test this evening or tomorrow and then do another 25% w/c tomorrow afternoon after college
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 04, 2017, 02:21:45 pm
Well, as of yesterday, there were no eggs left and the site abandoned and the Kribs are just swimming around as they were before so that would lead me to the only conclusion: the eggs had been eaten by someone in the tank. Oh well, onwards and upwards, that was their first time I think so we'll have to hold out for the next time :)

In other news: With a big thank you to Stevie, I've been able to upgrade the filtration in this tank from an APS 700lph internal to a Fluval U4!!!  *grin* The flow is impressive, even on the lowest setting! The flow is now reaching the end of the tank, easily and on low setting! I cut up the foam from my APS filter and inserted it into the Fluval which should mean I'll be alright but I will monitor the tank with regular testing and water changes if needed, Stevie also kindly kitted the Fluval out with some new foams (coarse, medium & fine - I replaced some of the coarse foam for the foam out of the APS filter). The fish seem livelier, which is good to see (they're not being blown around the tank though! haha just thought I'd clarify that) :)

Really great news buddy, glad it's working for you  *applause*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 05, 2017, 09:51:13 pm
Kribs seem to be at it again! They're vibrating occasionally and I Googled what this means and the first link described this as breeding behaviour. The female vibrated first, outside Buddha ornament this time, and that means both that she thinks Buddha is where she wants to spawn and she's showing off to the male and the male vibrated but near the plant pot (a good 10-12" away from the Buddha ornament opening where the female shimmied) and the male also vibrated near where they had their eggs last time so who knows what's going on! haha

Will keep you all posted :)

Meanwhile, here's some of the latest images of the fish ... Because  *worthless*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 06, 2017, 09:13:21 am
I do like pentazonas, I never see them when I have space for them..... *rolleyes*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 06, 2017, 09:45:11 am
They are really fun to watch swimming about investigating everything and shoaling. I definitely recommend them
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 10, 2017, 09:51:04 pm
Hi all! :)

Hope everyone is ok!

Just popped on to add a few images and ask a question.

Does anyone know why some Pentazona Barbs have red fins yet some don't? (I'll add some images)
I've looked online a little and it doesn't appear to be related to them being male or female, the only thing that seems to differentiate between the sexes is males will display their markings stronger when they're displaying but that's as far as I've got so far. Does anyone have a clue?  *grin*

P.S.: Sorry about the camera flash on the bottom image, it was the only decent pair I could get with red fins and clear fins
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 11, 2017, 08:17:23 am
It may be to do with where the original stock came from I think, similar to clown loaches, where the fins are different colours in different areas (usually due to them being desmopuntius hexazona, rather than d.pentazona). Females of the six-banded have clear fins.......
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 11, 2017, 01:28:10 pm
I hope they are Pentazona's. When I asked the fish guy from the LFS I got them from whether they were Hexas or Pentas he was sure of himself that they were true Pentazonas. After a look online, Pentazonas can apparently be set apart from Hexazonas by looking at the dorsal fin, in Pentazonas the base of the dorsal fin is black whereas in Hexazonas it isn't ... And looking at our Barbs, they do have a black marking at the base of the dorsal fin, it is one of the stripes that slightly carries on onto the dorsal fin (I'll attach some photos and highlight it).

I am around 80-90% sure that we have Pentazonas but obviously that 10-20% is the certainty haha
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 11, 2017, 06:27:14 pm
Just a quick question:

Why would my Albino Rainbow Shark all of a sudden like hovering upside down in his/her log tunnel? Jerry, yeah that's the name, is still responsive and rights him/herself when I put a plastic stick in there and try and move something near him/her but sooner than later Jerry'll be back upside down just chillin' ... There's no obvious signs of distress or illness but the options are still wide open. I'm hoping that it's just my weirdness rubbing off but I doubt it  roflmao
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 11, 2017, 07:31:28 pm
Third post for today! haha

The Kribs have laid eggs again!  *grin* in the same spot too ... I'll add some images :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 11, 2017, 10:35:18 pm
Ok, fourth post for today! haha

I think that these eggs might be in with more of a chance as I am somewhat reliably informed by my partner and the housemate that the eggs are slightly darker cream colour than the first batch and they both feel more confident about these eggs. I feel confident about them because both the male and the female are guarding the eggs closely and the first lot had just the female guarding them with the male nearly all the time spending all of his time at the other end of the tank so that looks like it could be promising :) might just be chance though that the male is helping out this time round but I like to think that it is because the eggs are properly fertilised :)

What are your thoughts? anyone ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 11, 2017, 10:45:03 pm
No idea (barbs), no idea (the shark) it does sound unusual and no idea about the kribs lol
Congrats on another batch of eggs hope they go well this time, and also hope the shark is ok


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 12, 2017, 08:07:18 am
Can you get pics of Jerry?
Watch the kribs if they're coming to grips with parenthood...... ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 12, 2017, 09:37:12 am
I will most certainly try and get pics of Jerry :)

I'm hoping, again, that the 4ft tank will be big enough for the Kribs and the rest of the fish. The female seems a little withdrawn at times and it's the male doing most of the guarding this time, it's the male seeing off the Barbs whereas the female is letting them come within centimetres of the eggs before reacting :(
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Feliss on April 12, 2017, 10:43:17 am
My fire eels like to hang upside down sometimes in their tubes. Makes me check to see if they're still alive, but they always are. Unless you see other symptoms, I think they just like to do it :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 13, 2017, 08:44:48 am
Can you get pics of Jerry?

The camera battery is having charging issues so I haven't been able to take any pictures of Jerry but he's swimming around a bit and is currently sat in his log tunnel the right way up so I think there must've been some interesting thing on the roof of the log tunnel for a couple of days!  roflmao will keep an eye on it ;) :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 13, 2017, 09:24:28 am
That's better news then :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 13, 2017, 02:04:33 pm
Haha well, the Krib eggs have lasted even less time than before (there's 8 eggs left at the moment) and that is with both parents guarding the eggs!  *blink* I thought this thing was meant to get better over time, not worse  roflmao

I suspect that the Barbs are somewhat wise to their spawning location as the Barbs have been hovering around the ornament a lot more this time and not really been seen off immediately whereas last time they were being seen off before they got within 5 or 6 inches so I'm unsure as to why the Kribs have been so slack this time but I hope that the Kribs don't become that successful that they injure or kill another fish  *blink* as harsh as that may sound

All fish seeming well anyway. Another 30 litre w/c to do today (30 litre is the size of the bin I use to syphon the water into), to keep the semi-cycled filter working nicely (has new foam but also established foam in). Will test over the next couple of days to see how I'm doing with the test results and will post those results :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 15, 2017, 06:31:22 pm
Well, just done a test on the tank and the ammonia is coming down nicely :)

Results:

Ammonia: 0.1
Nitrite: 0.0
Nitrate: 40

Action: 20-30% water change and then test again in a couple of days
Thoughts: I've reached a position of peace within the tank and it's pleasing to see. I've recently been made aware that Pentazona Barbs do like it a little acidic (around 6.0-6.5 I was told they prefer) but my water isn't harming them (as I was told by the same person - which confused me).

Due to the housemate potentially not liking the tea-stained look of a blackwater tank, is there any way I can reduce the PH a little while being cost effective? ... There's no real rush as the fish look healthy, are quickly taking up food when offered and are nicely colouring up but I have been wanting to look into ways of altering the water chemistry for a while and if I can do it on a low budget then that would be awesome! :) any help is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 16, 2017, 09:10:54 pm
I guess no one has any clues on how to reduce the ph without tea-staining the water, oh well haha onwards and upwards ;)  *grin*

I've been thinking for the last couple of days whether there'd be a fish that I could keep just one of, that would grow to 3-4 inches, that is a pretty fish-possibly with some colour on it, and that I could put into ph7.8-7dGH-27 degree water with the fish I have already ... Something of a centrepiece for the tank. I'm going to have a look online tonight but as is sometimes synonymous with online research it will most likely end up being a little overwhelming haha I'll post any ideas I find :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 16, 2017, 09:18:34 pm
PH Down sold at jollyes or pets at home, that is if you need it quickly. I assume it would be cheaper on the internet.

It won't effect the water colour.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 16, 2017, 09:29:13 pm
I use this,

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122379016147  (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122379016147)

I recommend sticking to the axiom of "if it's not broken, don't fix it". Don't spring to action simply because the textbook says the optimum pH for your fish is 6.4. and your water tests out at 6.0. As long as the pH is stable, and the fish show no signs of distress, it's best to leave the pH at its natural level.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 16, 2017, 09:56:20 pm
But technically it is a little broken as the Barbs prefer it more acidic haha ... I mean, they don't show any signs of stress or lethargy from the alkaline water but I will most likely notice that they die off before their life expectancy of at least 5 years. The hardness is fine, as they like it soft and it is currently barely touching slightly hard. I'd say it's kind of on that border of slightly hard and slightly soft so that's alright. But from all the sources I've seen they say to keep the ph below 6.0 for them to thrive but as you say Stevie "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" kind of thing and they seem ok so let's just go with it for now eh? haha

Going back to my last idea of finding a centrepiece fish, the only ones I could find were Pearl Gouramis but I would like to offer them some floating plants for security (plus I like how floating plants offer shade to the aquarium so win-win) but I need to slow the flow for them (that external filter would be just fine as long as I had a spray bar (which is a piece of piss to make so that's fine) and the other fish was a Festivum Cichlid but I saw that they grow to around 7 or 8 inches so that was out of the question until I get a bigger tank. Apart from those two I'm out of ideas but once I've got this external set up and stable I think I'll look more into Pearls but until then I'll leave it as it is.

If anyone has any suggestions though they would be greatly appreciated :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 16, 2017, 10:15:49 pm
Yup, spray bar included ;)

Pearl gourami are just beautiful, though 5 or more will me needed. Two females three males. Just my experience  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 16, 2017, 10:24:01 pm
Yup, spray bar included ;)

Excellent mate! thanks!  *grin*

Pearl gourami are just beautiful, though 5 or more will me needed. Two females three males. Just my experience  *grin*

I might be having second thoughts on Pearls though what with me having the Barbs. I would be hoping that because there's 14 of the Barbs that their potential to nip fins will be suppressed due to the number of them but I'm not sure so more research is needed haha
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 17, 2017, 11:14:32 am
I know how to make it more acidic, but you need to be very careful adding acid to the tank, especially with the amount you use.
I believe Vale! does this with his chocolate/liquorice gourami tank(s), he's probably the most expert at it.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Vale! on April 17, 2017, 01:27:05 pm
I don't add acid direct from bottle to tank ; rather, I add it to the garden butt that I use to prepare change-water. The water is so soft that only a few drops of the acid that I typically use (80% phosphoric) in the 175 litres produces a significant pH drop.

From there, it takes a day or two for the pH/CO2/carbonate equilibrium to sort itself out and it's only then that I feel confident enough to depend on the pH reading that I get. I then adjust the volume of the water-changes, if necessary, such that they don't result in wide in-tank pH swings. I wouldn't add acid to a tank without that intermediary step -although in a tank with 'normal' GH/KH values the potential for worrisome pH swings is reduced somewhat, I suppose.

I should really have used the past tense above, because of late I've graduated almost completely to peat-infused reverse osmosis water. Via small water-changes I'm slowly converting all tanks to this and half-expecting most/all of my plants to die eventually as a consequence : we shall see which have the botanical balls to withstand the assault!

Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 17, 2017, 03:19:44 pm
Lmao @ having botanical balls
Not your most eloquent of sentences but that still amused me no end Vale!


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 17, 2017, 08:20:55 pm
Thanks guys, I think I'll leave it as it is for now. Having some silly dramas in the house recently so progress is on hold for a while until things get sorted.
I would still love any suggestions for mid-sized peaceful tank mates that would be compatible with the fish in my signature. Also, ph is 7.8, hardness is 7dGH and temperature is 27  *grin* any suggestions would be appreciated
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 19, 2017, 04:28:49 pm
The latest in the series of photographs. The fish are coming along nicely  *grin*

Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 19, 2017, 04:37:33 pm
Looking good :)
I looked at the first pic like "what the?!" Then read the title of it, suddenly made sense lmao


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 19, 2017, 06:33:04 pm
I looked at the first pic like "what the?!" Then read the title of it, suddenly made sense lmao

 roflmao sorry for the confusion!  roflmao

Considering re-homing Roger, the biggest Plec as he's getting too big to turn around sometimes ... I need to move the ornaments and/or possibly remove one for the time being. I'll have a think and a look about to see if I can find something to replace an ornament with, like a piece of wood or stone that doesn't obstruct so much space :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 19, 2017, 06:44:30 pm
Lol no need to apologise, its just me haha
He is a fair size, how big is he overall?


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 19, 2017, 07:25:42 pm
around the 7-8" mark!  *blink* I didn't think he was that big! All this time I've been thinking he's around 6" and he's a good couple of inches bigger. That explains why he seems to be struggling to get around recently ... Will have to do some rearranging and see if that helps :) ... I fear I may have to remove the Buddha ornament and replace it with some wood, the housemate won't like that.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on April 19, 2017, 07:54:40 pm
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Belated logging trip
I apologised for not giving a reply previously.
I assumed from the title "Belated logging trip" that you had been out cutting trees  *blink*

I have now bookmarked for reading later ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 19, 2017, 08:02:37 pm
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Belated logging trip
I apologised for not giving a reply previously.
I assumed from the title "Belated logging trip" that you had been out cutting trees  *blink*

I have now bookmarked for reading later ;)

 roflmao

No worries Stephen, thanks! Please offer up any advice/suggestions you have, if you do :) I suspect you might and I welcome them  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 19, 2017, 08:58:05 pm
Lmao i see Stephens having a good day


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on April 19, 2017, 10:18:48 pm
No worries Stephen, thanks! Please offer up any advice/suggestions you have, if you do :) I suspect you might and I welcome them  *grin*
Just read all the thread.
The photos all look good, some lovely fish.

I would not personally bother in changing the pH.
A stable pH is far better than a fluctuating pH. (Don't even bother with chemicals like pH down, you'll be buying and buying more as it only works for temporary period)

I would forget getting Pearl gourami as they prefer the tank water temp at about 26C whilst the barbs would prefer about 22C-24C long-term.
The Kribensis would prefer the tank temp at 24/25C, so 24.0/24.5C would be a compromise.
Pearl gourami are just beautiful, though 5 or more will me needed. Two females three males. Just my experience  *grin*
This is nonsense advise anyway, 1 male and 3 or 4 females would be better as it spreads the males aggression when he's wishing to mate.
Considering re-homing Roger, the biggest Plec as he's getting too big to turn around sometimes ...
They can grow quite big to about 12 inches (according to Planet Catfish (https://www.planetcatfish.com/common/species.php?species_id=177)), they also like the tank water temp at 24-29C.
Lovely looking plec though  *grin*

That's all my comments.
The thread/log was a good read, some good photos as well.

Thanks
Stephen
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 19, 2017, 11:14:11 pm
I will work on slowly reducing the temperature a degree every few days or so. It's currently sitting at 27 so it shouldn't take me long. I'll lower it to 26 in the morning and then lower it again in a few days to a week to allow the munchers to adjust with the temperature change.

This is nonsense advise anyway, 1 male and 3 or 4 females would be better as it spreads the males aggression when he's wishing to mate.

I think it's a bit harsh calling it nonsense advice but I can see how it could be problematic to have 3 males to 2 females. I wouldn't be keeping Pearls anyway seeing as my temperature wouldn't suit, eventually.

I'm going to re-home the bigger Plec, and I will monitor the smaller one as I'm unsure as to whether, because they're the same species but one has restricted their growth due to threat of being killed if it were a bigger size, Plonk will contract deformities as a result of possible potential rapid growth... what are people's thoughts on that? If that makes sense.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 20, 2017, 12:13:47 am
Pearl gourami are just beautiful, though 5 or more will me needed. Two females three males. Just my experience  *grin*

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This is nonsense advise anyway, 1 male and 3 or 4 females would be better as it spreads the males aggression when he's wishing to mate.

My bad!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 09:16:04 am
Don't spring to action simply because the textbook says the optimum pH for your fish is 6.4. and your water tests out at 6.0 ...

Just been re-reading this 'ere tank log and I got to here again and thought: If the ph was only 6.0 and it needed to be at 6.4 then wouldn't be too bothered about their long term health as it most likely would be alright but, for the fish in question, the like it at 6.0-6.5 and my water is 7.8 ... There's a huge difference there Acidic to alkaline difference. As mentioned already though, they are seemingly doing fine, I'm keeping a close eye on them and they're feeding well, being inquisitive, shoaling nicely, colouring up alright and just seem bright and happy so I'm not going to mess with anything ... Don't worry haha ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on April 20, 2017, 09:44:32 am
I will work on slowly reducing the temperature a degree every few days or so. It's currently sitting at 27 so it shouldn't take me long. I'll lower it to 26 in the morning and then lower it again in a few days to a week to allow the munchers to adjust with the temperature change.
Then you could add fish species that are compatible to the tank water temperature. ;)
I always say:-
Keep fish species that are suitable to your tank size, suitable to your water pH and hardness, compatible with the tank water temperature and are compatible with each other.

This is nonsense advise anyway, 1 male and 3 or 4 females would be better as it spreads the males aggression when he's wishing to mate.

I think it's a bit harsh calling it nonsense advice but I can see how it could be problematic to have 3 males to 2 females.
I used the word "nonsense" meaning "make no sense".
Male Gourami will chase a female when he's in the spawning mood and stress her out, in extreme cases she could die. This is why it is best to have at least two females (three is better) to spread that aggression. Having three males and just two females "makes no sense" and is a recipe for disaster.
No offense was intended  ;)
My bad!
I appreciate that, thank you ;)

Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on April 20, 2017, 09:53:52 am
Just been re-reading this 'ere tank log and I got to here again and thought: If the ph was only 6.0 and it needed to be at 6.4 then wouldn't be too bothered about their long term health as it most likely would be alright but, for the fish in question, the like it at 6.0-6.5 and my water is 7.8 ... There's a huge difference there Acidic to alkaline difference. As mentioned already though, they are seemingly doing fine, I'm keeping a close eye on them and they're feeding well, being inquisitive, shoaling nicely, colouring up alright and just seem bright and happy so I'm not going to mess with anything ... Don't worry haha ;)
I understand what you are saying and why you are saying it.

Pentazona Barbs (Desmopuntius pentazona) come from Borneo (Malaysia) and inhabit blackwater streams, peat swamps and pools.
The peat makes the water acidic and stained with humic acid. The water is usually very soft at less than 5dGH.
To re-create this you would probably require remineralised RO water or collect rain water in a water butt with peat added to make it acidic and stained. (I think Vale! does something similar).

If wishing to go down that route then the other fish must also like similar conditions.
It may be worth starting a new thread/topic so that you get the attention and responses from the more experienced members as opposed to maybe getting lost within this log.
I like the idea, it would certainly be a learning curve for me too  *grin*

Stephen
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 10:08:27 am
I always say:-
Keep fish species that are suitable to your tank size, suitable to your water pH and hardness, compatible with the tank water temperature and are compatible with each other.

This should go without saying. It should be common knowledge. I know I bought the Pentazonas and I admit it was an impulse buy as I hadn't researched them much (other than an article which explained they were rare in the hobby) and I am usually pretty strict on myself with regards to buying fish I don't know the specifics about and I am slightly disappointed with the guy that sold them not asking me about my ph, hardness, temperature and tank size but he knew what he was talking about with regards to quite a lot of the other fish (it matched what I've found on my travels around the net of inter) so I guess it was just a case of I was smitten with these beautiful fish and 'clever' salesmanship  roflmao

>>> I've just adjusted the tank temperature to just below 26 - something around 25.6-8-ish <<<

Going back to previous comments about the Kribs: Do you think that the Krib eggs might not have been surviving past two/three days because of the higher temperatures Stephen? (Or, anyone who has a clue). My initial suspicion is and always has been the Barbs but I've not witnessed so much as one Barb eating an egg ... I have, however, witnessed the female eating them (possibly eating the duds or something?)

I understand what you are saying and why you are saying it.
Pentazona Barbs (Desmopuntius pentazona) come from Borneo (Malaysia) and inhabit blackwater streams, peat swamps and pools.
The peat makes the water acidic and stained with humic acid. The water is usually very soft at less than 5dGH.
To re-create this you would probably require remineralised RO water or collect rain water in a water butt with peat added to make it acidic and stained. (I think Vale! does something similar).

If wishing to go down that route then the other fish must also like similar conditions.
It may be worth starting a new thread/topic so that you get the attention and responses from the more experienced members as opposed to maybe getting lost within this log.
I like the idea, it would certainly be a learning curve for me too  *grin*

Stephen

I will definitely be looking at creating a much more suitable set-up for the fish (and will create a new thread to help me - and the rest of us - along) when I move and get settled as I will be able to re-home fish as and when needed without having to run it past the housemate for his approval (which is often rejected and/or met with an attitude). My other half knows that I understand things a lot better now and didn't at the start. I would have no issues with re-homing fish that wouldn't be suitable in our tanks or altering the water chemistry as long as I explained why :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on April 20, 2017, 10:41:44 am
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Going back to previous comments about the Kribs: Do you think that the Krib eggs might not have been surviving past two/three days because of the higher temperatures Stephen? (Or, anyone who has a clue). My initial suspicion is and always has been the Barbs but I've not witnessed so much as one Barb eating an egg ... I have, however, witnessed the female eating them (possibly eating the duds or something?)
It might be inexperienced parents, it may take a few goes until they get it right.
I understand they spawn in cave type structures like clay flower pots, so make sure there are several in different places.
Get a clay flower pot, cut an opening where the lip of the pot is, file off any sharp pieces, turn it upside-down. This should be ideal.
The tank water temperature should be between 24C and 27C.
If the water is too alkaline then they will produce more males, if too acid then more females. It is best to aim for a more neutral pH to get a more even male/female fry.
Try to avoid keeping bottom dwellers (catfish, corydoras etc..) in the same tank as they will often predate on the eggs.
Eggs will generally hatch in 2-3 days and the fry are generally free swimming after about a week.

I've always liked the look of Kribs but have never actually kept them.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 10:50:17 am
It might be inexperienced parents, it may take a few goes until they get it right.

I've heard that a lot of Cichlids are like this

I understand they spawn in cave type structures like clay flower pots, so make sure there are several in different places.
Get a clay flower pot, cut an opening where the lip of the pot is, file off any sharp pieces, turn it upside-down. This should be ideal.

I do have a clay plant pot in there but I cut part of the side off so that it would sit laid down and open to the tank rather than upside down with effectively a little opening... I do have another one so I will give that a go at some point... I will remove the ornament in there at the moment and will replace that with the new plant pot (once I've located the spare blades to my hacksaw)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on April 20, 2017, 11:11:25 am
A little D-I-Y makes it special when it works, you can buy caves from the LFS or eBay.
Something like this should be fine.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510bkwRpy4L._SY300_.jpg)

Good luck!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 20, 2017, 06:28:21 pm
My bad!


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I appreciate that, thank you ;)

Let me rephrase that.

 My bad?

I wasn't for one minute saying I was giving bad advice, I was giving advice based on my own experience..

Each experience is different.

Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Siege on April 20, 2017, 07:05:09 pm
all experiences are indeed different, that's what I kinda like about the forum  *grin*

Stephen is right I am afraid, by advice in my old book and my own experience.

1 male and 3-4 females. This is higher than suggested by seriously fish.

Stevie, your ratio may have worked for you because if there was 1 dominant male, the other males would have been subservient to him, leaving the females to him *grin*

May have been different if males were more equal, or alpha male was more dominant, with females and other males?

Pilgrim, I know academic to you as you are not getting any pearl  gouramis.
Looking forward to possibility of you setting up more tanks!

I'll comment on your log  *grin*


Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 07:14:17 pm
I'm looking forward to the future! :) ... If we survive that long! :(

I've got plans to have a few tanks, with an 8footer being the showpiece but that one is the furthest away due to it being such a big cost. There'll be some smaller, more experimental tanks before then, I want to get quite a fair bit of experience under me first.

And, with regards to the Pearls Stevie, I can and do believe that you had that ratio of fish but I do believe also that they would be better in the ratio suggested. If you had no losses or any direct bullying then that's absolutely fantastic and I'm pleased for you. At the same time though, they don't make up the rules for a laugh  *grin* ;)  *grin*

But, going back to the tanks I'd love eventually, I would really love trying to obtain success with breeding Gouramis of some kind, with Pearls being the top contender because they look so elegant and pretty :)

I want to breed some Cichlids. Not sure where from yet though but South American Cichlids are probably closer to the top than African :)

And, my OH wants to keep some Dwarf Puffer Fish which will be cool!  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 20, 2017, 07:24:53 pm
I'm looking forward to the future! :) ... If we survive that long! :(

I've got plans to have a few tanks, with an 8footer being the showpiece but that one is the furthest away due to it being such a big cost. There'll be some smaller, more experimental tanks before then, I want to get quite a fair bit of experience under me first.

And, with regards to the Pearls Stevie, I can and do believe that you had that ratio of fish but I do believe also that they would be better in the ratio suggested. If you had no losses or any direct bullying then that's absolutely fantastic and I'm pleased for you. At the same time though, they don't make up the rules for a laugh  *grin* ;)  *grin*

But, going back to the tanks I'd love eventually, I would really love trying to obtain success with breeding Gouramis of some kind, with Pearls being the top contender because they look so elegant and pretty :)

I want to breed some Cichlids. Not sure where from yet though but South American Cichlids are probably closer to the top than African :)

And, my OH wants to keep some Dwarf Puffer Fish which will be cool!  *grin*

There are no rules in nature.

I'm not disagreeing with Stephen, I'm merely pointing out that there are so many, many variables that take place. Stephen is talking ( i assume based on experience), i to am saying the same.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 20, 2017, 07:26:29 pm
all experiences are indeed different, that's what I kinda like about the forum  *grin*

Stephen is right I am afraid, by advice in my old book and my own experience.

1 male and 3-4 females. This is higher than suggested by seriously fish.

Stevie, your ratio may have worked for you because if there was 1 dominant male, the other males would have been subservient to him, leaving the females to him *grin*

May have been different if males were more equal, or alpha male was more dominant, with females and other males?

Pilgrim, I know academic to you as you are not getting any pearl  gouramis.
Looking forward to possibility of you setting up more tanks!

I'll comment on your log  *grin*

Each experience is different. You and Stephen and another 20% may agree on the same thing. I'm only sharing what worked for me.

;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Siege on April 20, 2017, 07:27:01 pm
All absolutely brilliant pilgrim thumbsup

If you can go as big as you can. Cheaper in the long run, less upgrades, easier to maintain water parameters etc.

I wish I had got a 7 foot tank, but was dissuaded (read as not allowed  roflmao).

In hindsight pleased I didn't, as making ro water in any higher quantity would be a xxxxxxx.

I had dwarf gourami spawn. Bloody amazing to watch the whole process and the build up.

I'm sure you'll survive  *grin*

Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Siege on April 20, 2017, 07:31:55 pm
all experiences are indeed different, that's what I kinda like about the forum  *grin*

Stephen is right I am afraid, by advice in my old book and my own experience.

1 male and 3-4 females. This is higher than suggested by seriously fish.

Stevie, your ratio may have worked for you because if there was 1 dominant male, the other males would have been subservient to him, leaving the females to him *grin*

May have been different if males were more equal, or alpha male was more dominant, with females and other males?

Pilgrim, I know academic to you as you are not getting any pearl  gouramis.
Looking forward to possibility of you setting up more tanks!

I'll comment on your log  *grin*

Each experience is different. You and Stephen and another 20% may agree on the same thing. I'm only sharing what worked for me.

;)



I agree stevie, no probs at all.  *grin*

If you didn't post what worked for you to assist pilgrim, what would be the point of the forum....?

Anyhow! How is your gn? I've seen mine feeding for the 1st time and I swear he is getting bigger *grin*

Apologies for taking over your thread pilgrim.

Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 07:46:07 pm
I agree stevie, no probs at all.  *grin*

If you didn't post what worked for you to assist pilgrim, what would be the point of the forum....?

Exactly Seige... Sorry if it seemed like anyone was calling your advice BS Stevie, I was merely pointing out how I understood it and you were merely pointing out how it worked for you :)

Can we leave that as it is now please haha

Apologies for taking over your thread pilgrim.

No worries. You're not really taking it over :)

Yeah, how is the GN Stevie? :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on April 20, 2017, 08:43:16 pm
I'll leave the info on my GN for its own threads so as not to derail yours.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 20, 2017, 08:50:30 pm
Ok. It's no issue though but I'll pop on over to yours and have a gander  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 21, 2017, 09:46:33 am
Pearls MAY work sometimes with more than one male, depending on the size of the tank, but it would need to be over 4'.
It is more unusual for it to work if there are less females than males though, and I certainly wouldn't recommend more than one male per tank, even of different species, having seen the decimation (well, it was nearer total annihilation really) caused during encounters......except true honey gourami, who are so much more peaceful than other labyrinths when together.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 30, 2017, 03:10:28 pm
Well, I'm reporting the third breeding attempt by the Kribs as of two days ago... The eggs have all disappeared already! They seem to be getting worse at this thing, not better!

Also, the male Krib just went hell for leather for the big Plec (Roger, he's 7-8 inches) for a few seconds and Roger just couldn't seem to get out of the way. I'm really going to have to look into re-homing him (I think he's male because he has started to grow faint bristles on the pectoral fins). And possibly the Kribs. I cannot give them the tank they need and I cannot ensure the safety of the other fish in the tank. Although, at the moment, the male Krib is just cruising around the tank scavenging so I think it was just a little tussle, Roger got too invasive (as usual) perhaps. (I do think I'm getting a little too panicky about it all but the confrontation has been mentally noted).

Everything else is all good in the tank :)

Here's a couple of images of the now non-existent Krib eggs... Also, they are obsessed with that one spot in the tank, they have an entire 4 foot of tank to work with. I think it's because that area is the area of the stillest water.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on May 04, 2017, 12:49:14 am
Well, I have to inform that the eggs didn't make it past the third day (again - well, they didn't make it past day two last time) :( ... Oh well, hopefully with their new and improved and much safer and somewhat more impenetrable cave area they'll have resounding success with their next broods  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Suelo on May 04, 2017, 06:49:50 am
Oh, that's a shame, cross fingers for next time.

Nice pics of them & their new caves.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on May 04, 2017, 04:15:38 pm
... maybe next time.
Nice kribs though  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on May 04, 2017, 07:59:52 pm
I'm hoping the addition of a cave-type structure will drastically improve their chances. It should :)

Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on May 12, 2017, 03:51:03 pm
Well, a little while ago I noticed our Albino Rainbowshark acting weirdly, just sitting stationary on his/her side for long-ish periods of time. I was initially frightened and thought that we'd lost Jerry but then he/she moved and I cursed him/her and just went on with my day. Over the last few weeks I've noticed it happening at fairly frequent intervals and it does concern me. When I disturb Jerry then he/she moves out the way and goes back to being upright but then sooner or later it's back onto the side or even upside down in some cases. ... I've attached the best photos we could get. A bloomin' iPhone takes better photos than a fairly old (possibly 10 years old) professional camera.

Can anyone notice anything obviously out of the ordinary?
There doesn't seem to be anything obvious on the skin apart from a possible couple of slightly paler patches than the surrounding skin but that might just be the scales reflecting the lights. Jerry does get out and about quite a bit, does eat flakes, will eat prawn when I put that in and doesn't seem lethargic or that anything's untoward so it really is a mystery to me.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on May 13, 2017, 10:06:17 am
I can't see anything physically wrong, maybe it's just decided to be a loach......they are cyprinids? ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on May 23, 2017, 11:57:29 pm
Sorry I didn't get back to you Ian! :( Yeah, they're Cyprinids (Epalzeorhynchos Frenatum) ... Jerry hasn't been doing it much recently, sometimes but not as often.

I've begun to have a suspicion that Roger, our biggest Gold Spot Plec, is indeed male ... I spotted bristles on the pectoral and pelvic fins (see pics), what do you all think? Is Rodge in fact male?
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: MattHunt on May 24, 2017, 08:18:42 am
Not sure if this applies to Gold Spots but for 'common' p.pardarlis, the males have a small stub on their underside...assuming that the fish decided to display their belly when you want to check!

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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on May 24, 2017, 09:39:22 am
He may be a he..... :)
Get him in your hand and have a look at his belly for the stub. ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on June 20, 2017, 08:39:07 pm
Hey all!

Just thought I best update my situation ...

Tanks going well, no changes or drama to report at all :)

Just put the initial reserve/admin payment down on a new rented house for my partner and I and we're so excited for it!  *grin* house needs some lovin' but I'm not averse to doing a little handiwork where needed, I might call on some of my more joinery-adept friends to help me out but we'll tackle that hurdle when we get to it! haha

Also, after so, so long of applying for jobs, sitting through interviews, getting turned down for jobs constantly, I've finally gone and got myself a job! :) It's only a customer service role but the work is said to be fast-paced and demanding and I do love a challenge so I say, "Bring it on!" haha ... (I'm bricking it really!)

So, yeah, things are finally starting to move in our direction and it's such a refreshing breath of fresh air when you try and try and keep getting knock-backs to finally get a little break from it all and a chance to prove yourself to all who doubt you or judge you :)

Just wanted to let you all know :)

Oh and also, I might be on that little bit less now due to work commitments and house-moving an' all that  *grin*

So excited!!!!!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Suelo on June 20, 2017, 08:48:59 pm
Great news & exciting times for you!

Hope the house move goes well, & congrats on the new job!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Siege on June 20, 2017, 08:55:47 pm
Superb, I am pleased things are beginning to work out.

New house, new job, very scary, very exciting!

 *cheers*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on June 20, 2017, 09:22:34 pm
Whoop de whoop whoop an that  *applause*

My tools are ready  thumbsup

 *cheers*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on June 20, 2017, 09:54:04 pm
Good times :)
Glad to hear about the job and everything is going well :)


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: MattHunt on June 21, 2017, 07:26:04 am
Congratulations!

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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Drunken horse on June 21, 2017, 08:24:34 am
Congratulations *applause*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on June 21, 2017, 10:33:16 am
Congrats on accomodation and the means to pay for it. :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on June 23, 2017, 09:27:55 pm
Whoop de whoop whoop an that  *applause*

My tools are ready  thumbsup

Cheers!  *grin* ... How are you with decking? ... And large double-gates? ... And timber sheds? ... I've been told I should be allowed to make necessary repairs in a DIY manner but I need actual confirmation first haha ... And I know, the landlord should pay for it but I don't mind, it'll give us a sense of accomplishment that we actually managed to make some 'home improvements' :) will come in handy later on down the line, in many years time, when I actually have the finances to get a mortgage!

Thank you everyone for your kind words :)

It definitely is a scary and exciting time! I can't wait to get this house on the road (should be in within the next 1 - 3 weeks). Oh and the job is going well :) a lot to take in in not a lot of time but I'm kinda getting it so, all's going well so far :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on July 11, 2017, 08:03:05 pm
Hey all! :)

Work's going well, and should be in the new house in the next week or two (ran into some complications trying to get a reference but we're able to bypass that so, hopefully that'll get sorted really soon). My OH suggested that he was going to buy me a new fish and I was thinking that I'd move the two Gold Spot Plecs on and get one 'centre-piece' Plec but I am not sure what to go for ... I've created a topic in the Loricariidae forum-section-thingy (linked below) and would appreciate some sound suggestions :)

https://www.tropicalfishforums.co.uk/index.php/topic,239282.msg2982178.html#msg2982178

I was going to say, "nothing much to report on the tank" but I've noticed what seems to be fine hair Algae on the Java Ferns' roots and I think it is that that's inhibiting the hardy Java Fern and causing parts of the leaves to die off :( ... Any ideas on how to get rid of that? ... I tried dosing some liquid carbon a few days in a row but if anything it's got worse so I stopped that.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on July 24, 2017, 06:43:35 am
Hey all!

Just thought to give you all an update on the situation...

It's been a busy 3 weeks, what with starting the new job and putting an application in for a house but I'm glad to say that my OH and I are 100% moved in to our new house together now  *grin*

Moving the tanks was the most stressful bit of the entire move! I wasn't able to catch all of the Barbs (I even lowered the water level to around 3" but about two or three of them were having none of it!). Shrimp tank was stressful because there was no chance in hell I was catching the shrimp so the water level was lowered and it was carried! All I can say is, I'm glad that it's only a 2ft tank!  roflmao
And, the turtle tank went in without a hitch too! Another plus side to the move is we can now keep all of the tanks downstairs so, we've got fish tank and shrimp tank in the living room and turtles in the kitchen  *grin*

Still knackered from the move and I've got a 9 to 5 shift today and tomorrow!!! Haha

Anyway, all the creatures are currently fine 😊

Catch ya laterz!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stevie Mancini on July 24, 2017, 06:54:01 am
Hey all!

Just thought to give you all an update on the situation...

It's been a busy 3 weeks, what with starting the new job and putting an application in for a house but I'm glad to say that my OH and I are 100% moved in to our new house together now  *grin*

Moving the tanks was the most stressful bit of the entire move! I wasn't able to catch all of the Barbs (I even lowered the water level to around 3" but about two or three of them were having none of it!). Shrimp tank was stressful because there was no chance in hell I was catching the shrimp so the water level was lowered and it was carried! All I can say is, I'm glad that it's only a 2ft tank!  roflmao
And, the turtle tank went in without a hitch too! Another plus side to the move is we can now keep all of the tanks downstairs so, we've got fish tank and shrimp tank in the living room and turtles in the kitchen  *grin*

Still knackered from the move and I've got a 9 to 5 shift today and tomorrow!!! Haha

Anyway, all the creatures are currently fine 😊

Catch ya laterz!

Absolutely GREAT news buddy. All the very best in your new home 🏡  *cheers*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on July 24, 2017, 07:17:02 am
Glad to hear the move has finally happened.
Congratulations on the job too  *applause*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: piker on July 24, 2017, 07:52:48 am
Congratulations on the job and new home

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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on July 24, 2017, 09:52:51 am
Congrats, and all the best for the future. :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on July 24, 2017, 12:32:10 pm
Shiney times :)
Glad the move went well and hope the new job goes well for you :)


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on July 30, 2017, 03:06:38 pm
Thanks all for the well wishing, we're really settling in well  *grin*

Bought some new additions to the fish tank and the shrimp tank. In the fish tank there is now an extra 12 Golden Barbs and we rehomed the two Gold Spot Plecs (L001's) and bought a Queen Arabesque Plec (L260) and an L399 Plec (got a deal on them for £40 for the pair because I offered the two L001's - which aren't worth much being that they are just another type of Common Plec). I'm aware the Golden Barbs are a little warm at 26 degrees but I'm able to turn the tank down to 25 and still be within the range of the other fish and still be just about alright for the Goldens  *grin*
And bought 15 Glowlight Tetra for the Shrimp tank because the shrimp are not very active and the tank needed some life and movement about the place! Haha

But, yeah, all in all a busy but good day on the fish keeping front. Fingers crossed we suffer no losses.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on July 31, 2017, 12:43:30 pm
Where are the pics then? ;) *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on July 31, 2017, 03:39:24 pm
Where are the pics then? ;) *grin*

Sorry Ian, I don't have a laptop anymore (it belonged to the housemate from our last home), it'll not be too long though hopefully until we can take some more photos and upload them to here... Sorry, I know, it's not on!
 ... I can't even use the "This Thread Is Worthless Without Pics" sticker with my phone! 😞
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on August 01, 2017, 08:25:16 am
You mean....
 *worthless*  or  *wwopix*
*grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on August 01, 2017, 08:39:01 am
Yes! Those ones!  roflmao

My phone may be a smart phone but technologically it's ancient!

I'm hoping to have a laptop to use from tomorrow but I will have to see if the ancient camera still works too before I can get some pictures...

I promise I'll have some pictures soon
 thumbsup
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on August 23, 2017, 09:53:04 pm
Hey all!

Hope everyone is doing well. And that everyones' aquariums are healthy and happy!

I am still yet to pur-chase a new, better camera (or find the charger-pack to charge the 'old' camera) so I regret to inform the congregation that I am still not able to provide half-decent pictures as of yet but it should not be long until that happens.

I am here to inform you all that we lost the Queen Arabesque around a week ago now, we know not of any reasoning other than it is possible he got stuck underneath the lava rock we found him under after scouring the entire tank for a good 10 minutes. :(
We buried him in one of our plant pots in the yard (the Dahlia pot to be more precise).

I also regret to inform you kind folk that we have a case of white spot in our 140L which has just come on in a period not exceeding 12 hours. It is the L399 we first spotted the small white spots on and then noticed one of the Pentazona's also has faint white spots too :(
 I have ordered a bottle of Interpet White Spot treatment but that is not due to arrive until Saturday so we are hoping that the beautlful creatures can hold on to life that little bit longer and that their ailment does not worsen beyond repair during the next 3 days. I have performed a water change of approximately 30% and will do so again over the next couple of days and then I will treat the tank with this treatment and see if that works or not.

A lot of crossed fingers and well wishes are needed so if when the collection plate comes around you could spare some well wishing that would be much appreciated :)

Will keep you informed of any progress, positive or negative.

Ta-ta
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on August 24, 2017, 09:00:02 am
Best wishes with dealing with the white spot and hope all goes well.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Suelo on August 24, 2017, 09:09:01 am
Hope all goes well. Crossed fingers & best wishes from me too.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on August 24, 2017, 09:57:43 am
Hope you get on top of it.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 24, 2017, 11:03:35 am
Sorry you lost the Queen Arabesque and your having issues :(
Hope you get it all sorted soon without any more issues


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on August 24, 2017, 09:34:15 pm
Thank you everyone :)

We're very sorry to report that we lost the L399 today too :(

We're having a moment of bad luck, it seems. Trying not to let it get us down though. We can't do any more to remedy it so there's little point in getting all twisted and upset about it... Strangely enough though the L399 had no white spots on his body ... More of the Pentazona Barbs have white spot now though :( Saturday cannot come quick enough!

Will pop on Saturday evening or some time Sunday or Monday to update the situation. Hopefully we won't lose anymore fish.
Hopefully the Dahlia will appreciate the fertiliser.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on August 25, 2017, 09:18:44 am
Sorry for your losses, I hope you can get rid of the ich. :(
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on November 28, 2017, 08:13:24 am
Hi all,

Firstly, apologies for the lengthy absence, I have just been trundling on with life, work, stressing about finances, taking care of my partner who has a brain condition and so on and just haven't had the cue to create a post on here. I've known I wanted to but didn't know what to write as nothing has changed, pretty much. The case of Ich/White Spot that one of our tanks experienced back in August resulted in no deaths, which was a relief! Since then though we have lost a Gold Barb out of the main tank, just found it dead and half eaten one day and an explanation for the oil-slick effect on the surface of the water. But one large water change later and there's no slick and the parameters are looking fine. We also lost a Glowlight Tetra out of the "Shrimp tank", it had simply jumped onto the floating mat and obviously couldn't wriggle its little butt back into the water :( but apart from that we've not lost any others, yet (and hope we don't lose any more to anything other than old age).

We do have 3 tiny new additions though and they are Calico Bristlenose Plecs at just over an inch each. We got them from Stevie for an absolute bargain! And, while they don't exhibit the striking patterning of some Calico's that can be found on Google Images they are pretty little fish and it's a huge relief to have Plecs back in the tank!  *grin*

We still have the 4 x Musk Turtles too! :D Though we are nearing the time when 3 of them are going to need to be moved on due to them growing older and more territorial towards each other. Luckily, they have lived together for years (at least 5) so they are well accustomed to one another but their natural instincts are starting to show so some action will be needed in the near future. I will be making a post on here, once I've spoken to my partner again about this, about selling them. We would simply give them away but we need the cash injection to restock on a few aquatic products. Anyway, yeah, so that's that... Keep an eye out if you're interested... Or, better still, if you're interested then send me a private message and let me know of your interest! :)

In other news: I came to the end of my temp contract with my previous employer only yesterday and managed to get another job on the very same day!  *blink* I'm moving into uncharted territory, I've acquired myself an Admin job which is mainly data-entry, but I'm excited about it... Oh, and I start today! haha ... I had the interview yesterday and start today! How about that then! haha

Anyway, hope everyone else is keeping well and, again, apologies for the distant relationship! I'm going to be making more of a presence in the coming months  *grin*

Ciao!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on November 28, 2017, 08:33:29 am
Good to hear you've got another job straight away! *grin*
Sorry about the couple of losses. :(
Good news about the BNs. :)
Hope your partner is doing ok. :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on November 28, 2017, 11:25:43 am
Nice to see you Pilgrim :) glad your doing ok.
Sorry for the losses :(
Good news about the job, hope it goes well for you and hope your OH is ok.


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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: MattHunt on November 28, 2017, 09:38:17 pm
What a few months...

Good luck in the new role and I hope the OH and tanks are good.

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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on August 01, 2018, 06:57:57 pm
Good evening fellow fishkeepers!

I hope you're all keeping well! ☺

Just posting a quick update on my tanks! (Apologies for not being such an active member these days! 😢 I hate it but I am without laptop and have to rely on a slow phone)

Nothing huge has changed other than the addition of plants in the 4ft tank (see pics below - just after adding them and a couple of months after adding them). We've lost 4 more Glowlight Tetra in the 54L 😢 ... just going to keep the maintenance up on that tank and hope for the best. Need to get dimmer lighting and really do need to invest in Otos to keep on top of the aggressive algae coverage.

Got plans for two new tanks, got a small 10gallon tank which we're wanting to turn into anew Egyptian-themed Pufferfish tank and then should hopefully be taking receipt of a 3ft tank which we're going to move Posh & Becks (the male and female Kribs) into and use as a breeding tank... Might FINALLY get some offspring from them! 😂

We also have a terrarium being delivered at the weekend which I've picked up for £40 for around 40cm square base with 60cm of height so not a bad deal (may even get delivered too! Haha). Not sure what's going in that yet but there really are plenty of options out there... The awesome thing is there's an exotic pets store literally 5 minutes walk from my house and I walk past it on my way home from work so plenty of opportunities to pop in and get some expert advice on reptilian creatures 😁 (they even do spiders, scorpions, frogs, snails and many species of reptiles).

Mentioning "walking", I'm currently learning to drive! The lessons are going well so I'm hoping I'll be driving by this time next year  (hopefully before the year is out but not sure about money).

I'm also aiming to get a permanent job with my current employer (HC-One) and had an interview for an internal position today so fingers are tightly crossed!

So, yeah... that's a quick update on the tanks, the future projects and a little on my life progress 😁

I'll be dropping in a little more but it'll be a bit longer till I can get a laptop and get back to being an active and helpful member again ☺

take care friends and happy fishkeeping! 
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: piker on August 01, 2018, 07:53:37 pm
Looking good pilgrim, and good luck with the job.

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Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on August 01, 2018, 08:59:59 pm
Good to see you Dan.

Good luck on the job front and good luck with the driving lessons.  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on August 01, 2018, 11:08:22 pm
Nice to see you Pilgrim :)
I second Stephen on the driving and job, hope everything goes well for you
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on August 02, 2018, 08:28:21 am
Good luck with everything. *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Suelo on August 02, 2018, 10:37:29 am
Nice to see you popping in  *grin*

Hope all goes well for you  thumbsup
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on August 29, 2018, 07:36:01 pm
Thank you all for the well wishing! ☺ reminding me why I appreciate this Forum so much!

Update on the job front: I didn't get the job. I'm disappointed but I'm seeing the positive from it in that I've got more experience of interviews?? Haha ... I mean, I keep getting told to stop being such a pessimist! 😂

Update on the tank plans:
I've been thinking about converting one of the tanks (most likely the 54L) into a blackwater set-up  *grin*
Been looking at Tannin Aquatics at their extensive list of botanicals ranging from the humble leaf all the way to expensive pods which will contribute to a healthy "tint".
Still researching at the moment so, there's still plenty of time until I have managed to squeeze in enough research

  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on August 29, 2018, 08:29:54 pm
Shame about the job :( Keep trying :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 01, 2019, 07:50:13 am
Hello all!

I'm going to make a post in the Cichlid area over the weekend but just wanted to add a part to my log.

I'm researching various Cichlid sp. and looking for a viable candidate for a new adventure, possibly a breeding venture. So far, I've highlighted the Fairy Cichlid (Neolamprologus Brichardi) and I'm looking into some of the smaller Peacock Cichlid species also. I've had a look at Apistogramma Sp. too but I won't be going down that route due to them all requiring sub-7.0PH and my water being 7.8PH. I know captive-bred strains are a lot more tolerant of higher PH and slightly higher hardness than stated for wild specimens but I'm still not too happy about putting them in my water... even though I have acidic-water Barbs in my alkaline water (Pentazona & Golden).

So, yeah, that's what I'm looking into at the moment. Also planning on upgrading the filter in the 54L former-Shrimp-tank-now-Tetra-and-Oto-tank (I know, they're soft, acidic water fish... I'm looking into more alkaline water fish) from  the double-sponge to a small external filter and then will update the species to be more suited to the water. The Tetras are doing alright, certainly active enough, feeding well, appear bright and alert and even clocked them doing a breeding ritual the other day so they're relatively comfortable in the 7.8PH water. We have lost 5 or 6 over the last 6-7 months due to them jumping out the water onto the floating matt of Riccia but since I've made that smaller we've not had any issues with suicidal Tetra. Important thing first is I need to update the filter system... the sponge filter works, and works relatively well but I feel like it needs better filtration.

Anyway, I will stop there. If anyone has any tips, tricks or any advice about anything fish related then, as always, it's very welcome.

I'll be back on soon!

Take care, all! ☺
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on February 21, 2019, 07:41:47 pm
Good evening,

I recently purchased a job lot from a friend. It consisted of: a tank rack with space for 4 x 3ft tanks; 2 x 3ft tanks; 2 x internal filters; heater; 2 x breeding pairs of Lemon BN Plec; 1 x breeding pair of L002 Plec; a group of Red Hump Cichlids (Geophagus Steindachneri)(I think there's 2 males and 3 or 4 females); a lone Guianacara Stergiosi; approximately 10-12 BN fry at various sizes; a lovely piece of bogwood; and, a selection of rock and slate pieces. And all for an unbelievable price of £180!!!

So, at the moment, due to the 3ft turtle tank we have being exactly 3ft and the rack being big enough to accommodate tanks 4mm short of 3ft (awkward, right?!) I wasn't able to plan out my vision of having one tank Plecs, one tank Cichlids and then the Turtles on another shelf... so, I have had to put the Plecs and Cichlids in together. I don't like it because it's too crowded for the internal filter to cope with (I'm remedying it with daily water changes). I'm on the look out for a 3ft tank that will fit in the rack.
I have taken a risk with this project because I haven't told the Letting Agents about this yet, they know we have aquariums (and frequently like to try and blame the occasional damp problems on the tanks) but they don't know about the rack yet.

On the lookout for some cheap but effective lights too, think I will be going down the LED route. Going to be setting up the turtle's UVB bulb this weekend and have also had to buy a new heater as the one we had just spontaneously decided to stop working. Oh! Talking about things just stopping working, the external filter on the turtle's tank decided to stop working too (currently got an internal filter in there at the moment, I dislike it) so, I'm going to have a look at the EF this weekend and see if there's a blockage (fingers tightly crossed there is and it starts working again!!!).

So, yeah! That's the new adventure I'm in barely any way to financially meet!!! 😂

I'll be keeping the tank log updated.

Do we have any of the original lot that I had the pleasure of chatting with on here when I first joined?

Take care, all! ☺
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on February 22, 2019, 08:31:52 am
Looks interesting. :)
Hope it passes the letting inspection.... ;)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on February 23, 2019, 02:52:19 pm
You have been busy Dan.  thumbsup2

All the best
Stephen
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 06, 2019, 04:11:11 pm
Hi,

The house inspection is due on the 15th. Nervous as I haven't told them via email yet either.

Things have temporarily been put on hold however as I have been laid off from work!  :mad:
I am actively searching for other employment and had an interview yesterday with Student Loans Company so hopefully that is successful (Find out on Monday or Tuesday)!

In much more positive news: I have constructed my first ever slate cave! It's crooked and has nail holes all over the place due to the slate pieces being roofing slate but a good scrub with hot soapy water and a very good rinse later they were good to use. See pic below  *grin* I'm proud of my first achievement with DIY decor.

So, yeah... a stressful week has been had but I've achieved something this weekend with the cave so that's put a positive spin on what would otherwise be a dull weekend.

Take care,

Dan
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on April 06, 2019, 07:36:13 pm
Good luck with the job hunt.

Slate caves look good.  *grin*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 06, 2019, 08:19:23 pm
Nice to see you Pilgrim.
Hope the job hunt goes well for you and i agree with Stephen, the caves look ace :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 07, 2019, 09:54:43 am
Good luck with the job search.
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 21, 2019, 01:25:43 pm
Hi all,

Well, I managed to get a new job! 😊 it's working for the Student Loans Company. The hours are unsociable (6pm till 2am) but it's a job!

Anyway, back onto the tank business...

It's been a wild few days!! We've got Lemon Bristlenose Plec fry!!! We did have Red Hump Eartheater Cichlid fry but they haven't survived 😢 but the Plec fry seem to be coming along strong! I've moved them into a 50L tank until they get to around 2-3cm and then they'll be moved back into the 3ft tank they came out of (the plan is to have an external filter added to that tank before then). I'll be looking to sell them on once they reach at least an inch.

I'm hoping once the plecs have been moved back into the main tank that the Red Humps will breed again and I'll be able to move the female and babbies in the 50L so they have the best chance I can give them of surviving!

Take care and happy fishkeeping! 

Enjoy some photos below too  *grin*

*2116*
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Stephen on April 21, 2019, 02:41:17 pm
Well done on the new job  *applause* maybe something with more sociable hours will come along soon.

Some good pics there, I liked the bristlenose fry in the cave pic  thumbsup2
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Gingerlove05 on April 21, 2019, 04:36:27 pm
Congrats on the new job :)
Hope it goes well for you. I have just changed jobs in the past week for the first time in 11years. My shifts will be 6-1:30 and 12:45-10:30, but no nights  *grin* you’ll find time around the shifts easier than you imagine ;)
 *agree* There are some great pics there :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 22, 2019, 09:41:24 am
Well done on the job......now about my daughter's loan..... ;) *grin*
Nice pics. :)
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Pilgrim89 on April 25, 2019, 01:47:51 am
Hahaha! I wish I could make some adjustments to it and make it easier for her... at least she only needs to pay it back once she reaches £21-25k wage (depending on when she got the loan) and even then it's only 1 or 2% of any money earned over 21-25k that she has to pay back. And! It doesn't affect her credit score or ability to get a mortgage. Also, if there's still any left by the time she reaches 60 years of age then it gets wiped off.

Anyway! I digress! 😂

So! All of the Lemon BN Plec babies have left the cave and are now darting about the tank surprisingly fast! I've managed to count 55 and there will have been a few I couldn't see! 😮

I've got some pictures which I've attached below but I'll be getting more and more as I attempt to document the experience. Albeit, using a phone camera! Haha!

Take care all!
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: plankton on April 25, 2019, 09:00:39 am
I've got to find somewhere to put all the BN fry in my tank.....I have gold and brown from my pair (Mum's brown, Dad's albino with red/pink eyes).....
Title: Re: Belated logging trip
Post by: Ric on July 15, 2019, 10:06:02 am
This has been such a rollercoaster of a thread to catch up with. Well done moving fish on when you realised they were no longer suitable for your mix.

Looking forward to seeing more pics soon.

And on another note: seems April was THE month for changing jobs. I left mine after nearly 10years and found a new job, which I really enjoy. Hope your life is moving in a calmer direction now.